Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 crawfish for bait..........what are you people thinking, dems good eating i tell ya GRRRRRRRRRRRRR lol LCH 10-05 > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was in rehab, the emphasis was on aerobic-type > > exercise > > > > (eg > > > > > treadmill). When I questioned as to why this > > > > > was so important (as I > > > > > could do it for 30 minutes but then went home and collapsed!), > > > she > > > > > stated that it was to burn fat so that I could have a better > > Lean > > > > > Muscle:Body Fat ratio. The more LM I had, the more efficiently > > my > > > > > body could burn 02. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not have a problem with the concept. However, over > > these > > > 4 > > > > > past years, I have come to realize that the reality is skewed. > > > One > > > > > does NOT burn fat as a result of aerobic exercise UNLESS one's > > > > blood > > > > > sugar is in the fat-burning zone (70-95) and, even then, only > > if > > > > one > > > > > has sufficient LM to burn the fat! If the BG is higher than 95, > > > you > > > > > are in the glycogen-burning zone and your body will break down > > > its > > > > LM > > > > > to get the needed glycogens to burn during the exercise! This > > > meant > > > > > that aerobic exericse was counterproductive. (Now, keep in > > mind, > > > > that > > > > > cardio exercise is about circulating the blood while aerobic > > > > exericse > > > > > stresses the heart and lungs. True cardio...done in the > > > > > fat-burning > > > > > zone...does not breakdown LM). Since LM is the primary burner > > of > > > > > fat, unless you have a lot of surplus LM, aerobic exercise is > > > > > actually counter-productive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I got more knowledge, I contacted the local pulmonary > > rehab > > > > > people in my new location and asked why they did not focus on > > > > > teaching people with lung disease how to INCREASE Lean Muscle > > (to > > > > > burn the fat) instead of focusing on aerobic exercise which > > would > > > > > break down what litle LM they had? The only answer I was given > > > was > > > > > that they were trying to improve the LM:BF ratio by burning the > > > > fat! > > > > > In other words, without even knowing if the client was in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, they were having the person do aerobic exercise > > to > > > > burn > > > > > fat! However, by using this method, you are only decreasing > > your > > > > > LM. The weight lost is not body fat but LM. Are any of you > > having > > > > > your body fat tested regularly or doing it yourself with > > > calipers? > > > > > The idea of > > > > > increasing LM and monitoring BF% was a novel idea to the > > > > > rehab people. In fact, the woman I spoke with was intrigued > > with > > > > the > > > > > fact that, when I finally stopped focusing on trying to do > > > aerobic > > > > > exericse (even at only 2 miles per hour) and > > > > > > began focusing on increasing LM, I finally began to notice > > > > > continued improvement in my energy level. (I dramatically > > > inproved > > > > my > > > > > LM:BF ratio ....increasing my LBM by 30# and decreasing BF by > > 16% > > > > in > > > > > 18 months!) It was only AFTER I increased my LM that I noticed > > > the > > > > > dramatic improvement in my energy that allowed me to seem > > normal > > > to > > > > > others (even though my 02 diffusion and lung volume had not > > > > > changed!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? Fat-burning does not result in a C02 residue while > > > glycogen- > > > > > burning does! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not talking about getting muscle-bound. I used hand > > > weights > > > > > and some DVD programs that did not involve aerobics > > > > > (www.joycevedral. com). I also went to body-building > > > > > websites and > > > > > asked many questions. It was on one of these websties > > > > > (www.jayrobb. com) that I learned about the fat-burning zone > > and > > > > > decided to purchase a blood glucose meter. (BTW....every body- > > > > builder > > > > > I contacted over the internet was more than willing to respond > > > > answer > > > > > my questions.) > > > > > > > > > > > > When I exercise in the fat-burning zone, I do not experience > > > the > > > > > exhaustion/tirednes s that follows exercise done in the > > glycogen- > > > > > burning zone (95+ Blood Glucose). The reason is simple; Fat- > > > > > burning does not increase C02 in the blood! Glycogen-burning > > does > > > > > increase C02 in the blood. That C02 has to get out of my blood > > > via > > > > > my lungs....which is where the crux of the problem lies! People > > > who > > > > > do not have lung disease can hyper-ventilate to get rid of the > > > > excess > > > > > C02 generated by aerobic exercise (done in the glycogen- burning > > > > zone) > > > > > but those of us with lung disease will have much more > > difficulty > > > > > removing it! The > > > > > unremoved C02 decreases our energy! > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one lose weight without aerobic exercise? I > > discovered > > > > > that the champion body-builders only use aerobic exercise to > > get > > > > body > > > > > fat % below 10% (abnormally low) by doing very high intensity > > > > > exercise which takes their HR to 85% of Maximum. This generates > > > > LOTS > > > > > OF C02! They refuse to do the kind of 'aerobic' exercise we are > > > > > taught in rehab because, they have discovered, it takes too > > much > > > > > time, burns only minimal fat, and risks breaking down LM!!!! > > > Until > > > > > the last 6 weeks prior to a major competition, they use diet > > (to > > > > keep > > > > > them in the fat-burning zone) and lean muscle (to burn the fat > > > > during > > > > > daily activities)! They use diet to get them into the fat- > > burning > > > > > zone (70-95 blood glucose) as, in this zone, the body is > > > NATURALLY > > > > > oxygenated at it best. As long as they have LM and stay in this > > > > > zone, the body NATURALLY burns fat for every activity...even > > > > sitting > > > > > and breathing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't have to have 'extreme' muscles to burn fat in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone. However, you do have to have LM! When I began > > > trying > > > > > to increase my LM (3 years ago), I discovered that. at 190#, my > > > BF% > > > > > was 42%. My LBM was only 110#. Most of this weight had been > > > gained > > > > > after I lost LM when I couldn't eat or breathe! (My prior > > weight > > > > was > > > > > 140# with 28% BF.) I realized that I did not have sufficient LM > > > to > > > > > burn fat at more than a snail's pace. Even then, I would have > > > > regular > > > > > setbacks when I tried to do even cardio exercise three days in > > a > > > > > row! Therefore, I spent 18 months increasing LM. One month > > ago, I > > > > > weighed 190# with only 26% BF......that means I now have 141# > > of > > > > > LBM. My weight did not go down because LM weighs more than BF. > > > > > However, when I finally could not do more weight-training > > (cannot > > > > > lift more than 8# because of scar tissue from lung biopsy), I > > > > stopped > > > > > losing body fat. Please note that I did not need > > > > > to lift more than > > > > > 8# in order to increase my LBM by 30#. > > > > > > However, I did need to learn how to do weight training > > properly > > > > > and I found Joyce Vedral's programs to be the easiest to > > > understand > > > > > and use. (She was trained by Weider and participated in women's > > > > > championship programs. She is currently 61. Her programs are > > for > > > > > men and women. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I knew about the fat-burning zone, I only learned > > > about > > > > > using a Blood Glucose monitor to check my blood sugar about a > > > > months > > > > > ago when I got Jay Robb's THE FAT-BURNING BOOK. Now that I > > have a > > > > > way to monitor whether or not I am in the fat-burning zone, I > > > have > > > > > finally begun using my LM to burn BF.....except at night when I > > > > > desaturate to about 82% during a deep sleep. I have lost 8# in > > > this > > > > > past month....none of it LM as my BF has also decreased by > > 1.5%! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now...before I begin any exercise, I take my BG. If it is > > > greater > > > > > than 90, I DON'T exercise as I > > > > > know I will enter the glycogen-burning > > > > > zone too easily. It is more important to me to stay in the fat- > > > > > burning zone than to exercise as exercise in the glycogen- > > burning > > > > > zone will result in an increase in C02 which I will have to > > > remove > > > > > from my lungs. In other words, it is counter-productive. If my > > BG > > > > > is in the 80's, I exercise in my cardio range (about 50%-60% of > > > my > > > > > MHR). I then check my BG 15 minutes after completing my > > exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. If there is only minimal change (decrease) in my BG, I > > have > > > > > done good. > > > > > > 2. If my BG has decreased, I have increased C02....which will > > > > > need to be released through quiet time. Generally the amount of > > > > > increase is only slight. > > > > > > 3. If my BG has increased, I have broken down LM for > > glycogen. > > > > > Generally this is only a small increase when I am doing my > > > strength > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if I begin exercising when my BG is above 90, it > > > is > > > > > not unusual for my BG to > > > > > go up by 20-30 points during the exercise as > > > > > my body breaks down LM for its glycogen. If I exercise in my > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, my BG rarely goes up. But if it does, it is by no > > > > more > > > > > than 3-5 points....LM breakdown is limited. Please keep in mind > > > > that > > > > > I try to do 30-45 minutes of strength yoga (which does repeated > > > > push- > > > > > ups) every day! This is an isometric form of strength training. > > > It > > > > > took me two years to build up the strength to be able to > > > > > do 'chaturanga' because of the scarring in my lungs from the > > open > > > > > lung biopsy! > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I do not know if anyone is even interested in this > > > > > information but, since it took me 4 years to accumulate these > > > facts > > > > > (mainly from body-builders) and 3 years of experimentation to > > > prove > > > > > they work, I want to pass them on. I keep hoping that someone > > > else > > > > > will be able to benefit from this knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW.... > > > > > > > > > > > > How did my morbidly obese friend (350# at 52% BF) with > > > > > severe > > > > > ashtma (from black mold exposure) benefit from this? She began > > > > > focusing on increasing LM (using hand weights) for 1` year. > > (LBM= > > > > > 168#; BF=182#) Her weight did not change but her LM:BF ratio > > did > > > as > > > > > her BF% dropped from 52% to 52%. LBM=203 and BF=147. Then she > > > began > > > > > doing taiji (which increases oxygen in the body.) 2.5 years > > ago, > > > > she > > > > > could not walk 20' without being significantly out of breath. > > She > > > > > needed to sleep 3 hours every afternoon. Now she does not take > > > > naps, > > > > > does 45 minutes of taiji daily, and is able to go on trips with > > > her > > > > > husband! (She is at a taiji seminar this weekend.) Now my > > friend > > > is > > > > > monitoring her Blood Glucose. She realizes that she was very > > > close > > > > > to full-fledged diabetes. AFter 3 weeks of making dietary > > changes > > > > > (using her monitor to measure success/failure in her choices), > > > her > > > > > blood glucose is much closer to normal. After 3 years of steady > > > > > weight gain (over 100# in just 1 year > > > > > > during > > > > > the black mold exposure), she if finally starting to lose > > > > > weight. And....she still cannot do any aerobic exercise as it > > > will > > > > > cause major shortness of breath! However, she can do > > > taiji...which > > > > > is cardio! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I like fish, it has to be Well cooked though! I've never been fishing! I have watched it on tv....it looks like fun! Irene Raynaud's Disease 09/07 PF 03/07 Canada ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:25 pm Subject: Re:Fish Bait Oh, I can take care of ....lol > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was in rehab, the emphasis was on aerobic-type > > exercise > > > > (eg > > > > > treadmill). When I questioned as to why this > > > > > was so important (as I > > > > > could do it for 30 minutes but then went home and collapsed!), > > > she > > > > > stated that it was to burn fat so that I could have a better > > Lean > > > > > Muscle:Body Fat ratio. The more LM I had, the more efficiently > > my > > > > > body could burn 02. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not have a problem with the concept. However, over > > these > > > 4 > > > > > past years, I have come to realize that the reality is skewed. > > > One > > > > > does NOT burn fat as a result of aerobic exercise UNLESS one's > > > > blood > > > > > sugar is in the fat-burning zone (70-95) and, even then, only > > if > > > > one > > > > > has sufficient LM to burn the fat! If the BG is higher than 95, > > > you > > > > > are in the glycogen-burning zone and your body will break down > > > its > > > > LM > > > > > to get the needed glycogens to burn during the exercise! This > > > meant > > > > > that aerobic exericse was counterproductive. (Now, keep in > > mind, > > > > that > > > > > cardio exercise is about circulating the blood while aerobic > > > > exericse > > > > > stresses the heart and lungs. True cardio...done in the > > > > > fat-burning > > > > > zone...does not breakdown LM). Since LM is the primary burner > > of > > > > > fat, unless you have a lot of surplus LM, aerobic exercise is > > > > > actually counter-productive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I got more knowledge, I contacted the local pulmonary > > rehab > > > > > people in my new location and asked why they did not focus on > > > > > teaching people with lung disease how to INCREASE Lean Muscle > > (to > > > > > burn the fat) instead of focusing on aerobic exercise which > > would > > > > > break down what litle LM they had? The only answer I was given > > > was > > > > > that they were trying to improve the LM:BF ratio by burning the > > > > fat! > > > > > In other words, without even knowing if the client was in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, they were having the person do aerobic exercise > > to > > > > burn > > > > > fat! However, by using this method, you are only decreasing > > your > > > > > LM. The weight lost is not body fat but LM. Are any of you > > having > > > > > your body fat tested regularly or doing it yourself with > > > calipers? > > > > > The idea of > > > > > increasing LM and monitoring BF% was a novel idea to the > > > > > rehab people. In fact, the woman I spoke with was intrigued > > with > > > > the > > > > > fact that, when I finally stopped focusing on trying to do > > > aerobic > > > > > exericse (even at only 2 miles per hour) and > > > > > > began focusing on increasing LM, I finally began to notice > > > > > continued improvement in my energy level. (I dramatically > > > inproved > > > > my > > > > > LM:BF ratio ....increasing my LBM by 30# and decreasing BF by > > 16% > > > > in > > > > > 18 months!) It was only AFTER I increased my LM that I noticed > > > the > > > > > dramatic improvement in my energy that allowed me to seem > > normal > > > to > > > > > others (even though my 02 diffusion and lung volume had not > > > > > changed!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? Fat-burning does not result in a C02 residue while > > > glycogen- > > > > > burning does! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not talking about getting muscle-bound. I used hand > > > weights > > > > > and some DVD programs that did not involve aerobics > > > > > (www.joycevedral. com). I also went to body-building > > > > > websites and > > > > > asked many questions. It was on one of these websties > > > > > (www.jayrobb. com) that I learned about the fat-burning zone > > and > > > > > decided to purchase a blood glucose meter. (BTW....every body- > > > > builder > > > > > I contacted over the internet was more than willing to respond > > > > answer > > > > > my questions.) > > > > > > > > > > > > When I exercise in the fat-burning zone, I do not experience > > > the > > > > > exhaustion/tirednes s that follows exercise done in the > > glycogen- > > > > > burning zone (95+ Blood Glucose). The reason is simple; Fat- > > > > > burning does not increase C02 in the blood! Glycogen-burning > > does > > > > > increase C02 in the blood. That C02 has to get out of my blood > > > via > > > > > my lungs....which is where the crux of the problem lies! People > > > who > > > > > do not have lung disease can hyper-ventilate to get rid of the > > > > excess > > > > > C02 generated by aerobic exercise (done in the glycogen- burning > > > > zone) > > > > > but those of us with lung disease will have much more > > difficulty > > > > > removing it! The > > > > > unremoved C02 decreases our energy! > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one lose weight without aerobic exercise? I > > discovered > > > > > that the champion body-builders only use aerobic exercise to > > get > > > > body > > > > > fat % below 10% (abnormally low) by doing very high intensity > > > > > exercise which takes their HR to 85% of Maximum. This generates > > > > LOTS > > > > > OF C02! They refuse to do the kind of 'aerobic' exercise we are > > > > > taught in rehab because, they have discovered, it takes too > > much > > > > > time, burns only minimal fat, and risks breaking down LM!!!! > > > Until > > > > > the last 6 weeks prior to a major competition, they use diet > > (to > > > > keep > > > > > them in the fat-burning zone) and lean muscle (to burn the fat > > > > during > > > > > daily activities)! They use diet to get them into the fat- > > burning > > > > > zone (70-95 blood glucose) as, in this zone, the body is > > > NATURALLY > > > > > oxygenated at it best. As long as they have LM and stay in this > > > > > zone, the body NATURALLY burns fat for every activity...even > > > > sitting > > > > > and breathing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't have to have 'extreme' muscles to burn fat in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone. However, you do have to have LM! When I began > > > trying > > > > > to increase my LM (3 years ago), I discovered that. at 190#, my > > > BF% > > > > > was 42%. My LBM was only 110#. Most of this weight had been > > > gained > > > > > after I lost LM when I couldn't eat or breathe! (My prior > > weight > > > > was > > > > > 140# with 28% BF.) I realized that I did not have sufficient LM > > > to > > > > > burn fat at more than a snail's pace. Even then, I would have > > > > regular > > > > > setbacks when I tried to do even cardio exercise three days in > > a > > > > > row! Therefore, I spent 18 months increasing LM. One month > > ago, I > > > > > weighed 190# with only 26% BF......that means I now have 141# > > of > > > > > LBM. My weight did not go down because LM weighs more than BF. > > > > > However, when I finally could not do more weight-training > > (cannot > > > > > lift more than 8# because of scar tissue from lung biopsy), I > > > > stopped > > > > > losing body fat. Please note that I did not need > > > > > to lift more than > > > > > 8# in order to increase my LBM by 30#. > > > > > > However, I did need to learn how to do weight training > > properly > > > > > and I found Joyce Vedral's programs to be the easiest to > > > understand > > > > > and use. (She was trained by Weider and participated in women's > > > > > championship programs. She is currently 61. Her programs are > > for > > > > > men and women. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I knew about the fat-burning zone, I only learned > > > about > > > > > using a Blood Glucose monitor to check my blood sugar about a > > > > months > > > > > ago when I got Jay Robb's THE FAT-BURNING BOOK. Now that I > > have a > > > > > way to monitor whether or not I am in the fat-burning zone, I > > > have > > > > > finally begun using my LM to burn BF.....except at night when I > > > > > desaturate to about 82% during a deep sleep. I have lost 8# in > > > this > > > > > past month....none of it LM as my BF has also decreased by > > 1.5%! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now...before I begin any exercise, I take my BG. If it is > > > greater > > > > > than 90, I DON'T exercise as I > > > > > know I will enter the glycogen-burning > > > > > zone too easily. It is more important to me to stay in the fat- > > > > > burning zone than to exercise as exercise in the glycogen- > > burning > > > > > zone will result in an increase in C02 which I will have to > > > remove > > > > > from my lungs. In other words, it is counter-productive. If my > > BG > > > > > is in the 80's, I exercise in my cardio range (about 50%-60% of > > > my > > > > > MHR). I then check my BG 15 minutes after completing my > > exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. If there is only minimal change (decrease) in my BG, I > > have > > > > > done good. > > > > > > 2. If my BG has decreased, I have increased C02....which will > > > > > need to be released through quiet time. Generally the amount of > > > > > increase is only slight. > > > > > > 3. If my BG has increased, I have broken down LM for > > glycogen. > > > > > Generally this is only a small increase when I am doing my > > > strength > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if I begin exercising when my BG is above 90, it > > > is > > > > > not unusual for my BG to > > > > > go up by 20-30 points during the exercise as > > > > > my body breaks down LM for its glycogen. If I exercise in my > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, my BG rarely goes up. But if it does, it is by no > > > > more > > > > > than 3-5 points....LM breakdown is limited. Please keep in mind > > > > that > > > > > I try to do 30-45 minutes of strength yoga (which does repeated > > > > push- > > > > > ups) every day! This is an isometric form of strength training. > > > It > > > > > took me two years to build up the strength to be able to > > > > > do 'chaturanga' because of the scarring in my lungs from the > > open > > > > > lung biopsy! > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I do not know if anyone is even interested in this > > > > > information but, since it took me 4 years to accumulate these > > > facts > > > > > (mainly from body-builders) and 3 years of experimentation to > > > prove > > > > > they work, I want to pass them on. I keep hoping that someone > > > else > > > > > will be able to benefit from this knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW.... > > > > > > > > > > > > How did my morbidly obese friend (350# at 52% BF) with > > > > > severe > > > > > ashtma (from black mold exposure) benefit from this? She began > > > > > focusing on increasing LM (using hand weights) for 1` year. > > (LBM= > > > > > 168#; BF=182#) Her weight did not change but her LM:BF ratio > > did > > > as > > > > > her BF% dropped from 52% to 52%. LBM=203 and BF=147. Then she > > > began > > > > > doing taiji (which increases oxygen in the body.) 2.5 years > > ago, > > > > she > > > > > could not walk 20' without being significantly out of breath. > > She > > > > > needed to sleep 3 hours every afternoon. Now she does not take > > > > naps, > > > > > does 45 minutes of taiji daily, and is able to go on trips with > > > her > > > > > husband! (She is at a taiji seminar this weekend.) Now my > > friend > > > is > > > > > monitoring her Blood Glucose. She realizes that she was very > > > close > > > > > to full-fledged diabetes. AFter 3 weeks of making dietary > > changes > > > > > (using her monitor to measure success/failure in her choices), > > > her > > > > > blood glucose is much closer to normal. After 3 years of steady > > > > > weight gain (over 100# in just 1 year > > > > > > during > > > > > the black mold exposure), she if finally starting to lose > > > > > weight. And....she still cannot do any aerobic exercise as it > > > will > > > > > cause major shortness of breath! However, she can do > > > taiji...which > > > > > is cardio! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I like fish, it has to be Well cooked though! I've never been fishing! I have watched it on tv....it looks like fun! Irene Raynaud's Disease 09/07 PF 03/07 Canada ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:25 pm Subject: Re:Fish Bait Oh, I can take care of ....lol > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was in rehab, the emphasis was on aerobic-type > > exercise > > > > (eg > > > > > treadmill). When I questioned as to why this > > > > > was so important (as I > > > > > could do it for 30 minutes but then went home and collapsed!), > > > she > > > > > stated that it was to burn fat so that I could have a better > > Lean > > > > > Muscle:Body Fat ratio. The more LM I had, the more efficiently > > my > > > > > body could burn 02. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not have a problem with the concept. However, over > > these > > > 4 > > > > > past years, I have come to realize that the reality is skewed. > > > One > > > > > does NOT burn fat as a result of aerobic exercise UNLESS one's > > > > blood > > > > > sugar is in the fat-burning zone (70-95) and, even then, only > > if > > > > one > > > > > has sufficient LM to burn the fat! If the BG is higher than 95, > > > you > > > > > are in the glycogen-burning zone and your body will break down > > > its > > > > LM > > > > > to get the needed glycogens to burn during the exercise! This > > > meant > > > > > that aerobic exericse was counterproductive. (Now, keep in > > mind, > > > > that > > > > > cardio exercise is about circulating the blood while aerobic > > > > exericse > > > > > stresses the heart and lungs. True cardio...done in the > > > > > fat-burning > > > > > zone...does not breakdown LM). Since LM is the primary burner > > of > > > > > fat, unless you have a lot of surplus LM, aerobic exercise is > > > > > actually counter-productive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I got more knowledge, I contacted the local pulmonary > > rehab > > > > > people in my new location and asked why they did not focus on > > > > > teaching people with lung disease how to INCREASE Lean Muscle > > (to > > > > > burn the fat) instead of focusing on aerobic exercise which > > would > > > > > break down what litle LM they had? The only answer I was given > > > was > > > > > that they were trying to improve the LM:BF ratio by burning the > > > > fat! > > > > > In other words, without even knowing if the client was in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, they were having the person do aerobic exercise > > to > > > > burn > > > > > fat! However, by using this method, you are only decreasing > > your > > > > > LM. The weight lost is not body fat but LM. Are any of you > > having > > > > > your body fat tested regularly or doing it yourself with > > > calipers? > > > > > The idea of > > > > > increasing LM and monitoring BF% was a novel idea to the > > > > > rehab people. In fact, the woman I spoke with was intrigued > > with > > > > the > > > > > fact that, when I finally stopped focusing on trying to do > > > aerobic > > > > > exericse (even at only 2 miles per hour) and > > > > > > began focusing on increasing LM, I finally began to notice > > > > > continued improvement in my energy level. (I dramatically > > > inproved > > > > my > > > > > LM:BF ratio ....increasing my LBM by 30# and decreasing BF by > > 16% > > > > in > > > > > 18 months!) It was only AFTER I increased my LM that I noticed > > > the > > > > > dramatic improvement in my energy that allowed me to seem > > normal > > > to > > > > > others (even though my 02 diffusion and lung volume had not > > > > > changed!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? Fat-burning does not result in a C02 residue while > > > glycogen- > > > > > burning does! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not talking about getting muscle-bound. I used hand > > > weights > > > > > and some DVD programs that did not involve aerobics > > > > > (www.joycevedral. com). I also went to body-building > > > > > websites and > > > > > asked many questions. It was on one of these websties > > > > > (www.jayrobb. com) that I learned about the fat-burning zone > > and > > > > > decided to purchase a blood glucose meter. (BTW....every body- > > > > builder > > > > > I contacted over the internet was more than willing to respond > > > > answer > > > > > my questions.) > > > > > > > > > > > > When I exercise in the fat-burning zone, I do not experience > > > the > > > > > exhaustion/tirednes s that follows exercise done in the > > glycogen- > > > > > burning zone (95+ Blood Glucose). The reason is simple; Fat- > > > > > burning does not increase C02 in the blood! Glycogen-burning > > does > > > > > increase C02 in the blood. That C02 has to get out of my blood > > > via > > > > > my lungs....which is where the crux of the problem lies! People > > > who > > > > > do not have lung disease can hyper-ventilate to get rid of the > > > > excess > > > > > C02 generated by aerobic exercise (done in the glycogen- burning > > > > zone) > > > > > but those of us with lung disease will have much more > > difficulty > > > > > removing it! The > > > > > unremoved C02 decreases our energy! > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one lose weight without aerobic exercise? I > > discovered > > > > > that the champion body-builders only use aerobic exercise to > > get > > > > body > > > > > fat % below 10% (abnormally low) by doing very high intensity > > > > > exercise which takes their HR to 85% of Maximum. This generates > > > > LOTS > > > > > OF C02! They refuse to do the kind of 'aerobic' exercise we are > > > > > taught in rehab because, they have discovered, it takes too > > much > > > > > time, burns only minimal fat, and risks breaking down LM!!!! > > > Until > > > > > the last 6 weeks prior to a major competition, they use diet > > (to > > > > keep > > > > > them in the fat-burning zone) and lean muscle (to burn the fat > > > > during > > > > > daily activities)! They use diet to get them into the fat- > > burning > > > > > zone (70-95 blood glucose) as, in this zone, the body is > > > NATURALLY > > > > > oxygenated at it best. As long as they have LM and stay in this > > > > > zone, the body NATURALLY burns fat for every activity...even > > > > sitting > > > > > and breathing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't have to have 'extreme' muscles to burn fat in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone. However, you do have to have LM! When I began > > > trying > > > > > to increase my LM (3 years ago), I discovered that. at 190#, my > > > BF% > > > > > was 42%. My LBM was only 110#. Most of this weight had been > > > gained > > > > > after I lost LM when I couldn't eat or breathe! (My prior > > weight > > > > was > > > > > 140# with 28% BF.) I realized that I did not have sufficient LM > > > to > > > > > burn fat at more than a snail's pace. Even then, I would have > > > > regular > > > > > setbacks when I tried to do even cardio exercise three days in > > a > > > > > row! Therefore, I spent 18 months increasing LM. One month > > ago, I > > > > > weighed 190# with only 26% BF......that means I now have 141# > > of > > > > > LBM. My weight did not go down because LM weighs more than BF. > > > > > However, when I finally could not do more weight-training > > (cannot > > > > > lift more than 8# because of scar tissue from lung biopsy), I > > > > stopped > > > > > losing body fat. Please note that I did not need > > > > > to lift more than > > > > > 8# in order to increase my LBM by 30#. > > > > > > However, I did need to learn how to do weight training > > properly > > > > > and I found Joyce Vedral's programs to be the easiest to > > > understand > > > > > and use. (She was trained by Weider and participated in women's > > > > > championship programs. She is currently 61. Her programs are > > for > > > > > men and women. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I knew about the fat-burning zone, I only learned > > > about > > > > > using a Blood Glucose monitor to check my blood sugar about a > > > > months > > > > > ago when I got Jay Robb's THE FAT-BURNING BOOK. Now that I > > have a > > > > > way to monitor whether or not I am in the fat-burning zone, I > > > have > > > > > finally begun using my LM to burn BF.....except at night when I > > > > > desaturate to about 82% during a deep sleep. I have lost 8# in > > > this > > > > > past month....none of it LM as my BF has also decreased by > > 1.5%! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now...before I begin any exercise, I take my BG. If it is > > > greater > > > > > than 90, I DON'T exercise as I > > > > > know I will enter the glycogen-burning > > > > > zone too easily. It is more important to me to stay in the fat- > > > > > burning zone than to exercise as exercise in the glycogen- > > burning > > > > > zone will result in an increase in C02 which I will have to > > > remove > > > > > from my lungs. In other words, it is counter-productive. If my > > BG > > > > > is in the 80's, I exercise in my cardio range (about 50%-60% of > > > my > > > > > MHR). I then check my BG 15 minutes after completing my > > exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. If there is only minimal change (decrease) in my BG, I > > have > > > > > done good. > > > > > > 2. If my BG has decreased, I have increased C02....which will > > > > > need to be released through quiet time. Generally the amount of > > > > > increase is only slight. > > > > > > 3. If my BG has increased, I have broken down LM for > > glycogen. > > > > > Generally this is only a small increase when I am doing my > > > strength > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if I begin exercising when my BG is above 90, it > > > is > > > > > not unusual for my BG to > > > > > go up by 20-30 points during the exercise as > > > > > my body breaks down LM for its glycogen. If I exercise in my > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, my BG rarely goes up. But if it does, it is by no > > > > more > > > > > than 3-5 points....LM breakdown is limited. Please keep in mind > > > > that > > > > > I try to do 30-45 minutes of strength yoga (which does repeated > > > > push- > > > > > ups) every day! This is an isometric form of strength training. > > > It > > > > > took me two years to build up the strength to be able to > > > > > do 'chaturanga' because of the scarring in my lungs from the > > open > > > > > lung biopsy! > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I do not know if anyone is even interested in this > > > > > information but, since it took me 4 years to accumulate these > > > facts > > > > > (mainly from body-builders) and 3 years of experimentation to > > > prove > > > > > they work, I want to pass them on. I keep hoping that someone > > > else > > > > > will be able to benefit from this knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW.... > > > > > > > > > > > > How did my morbidly obese friend (350# at 52% BF) with > > > > > severe > > > > > ashtma (from black mold exposure) benefit from this? She began > > > > > focusing on increasing LM (using hand weights) for 1` year. > > (LBM= > > > > > 168#; BF=182#) Her weight did not change but her LM:BF ratio > > did > > > as > > > > > her BF% dropped from 52% to 52%. LBM=203 and BF=147. Then she > > > began > > > > > doing taiji (which increases oxygen in the body.) 2.5 years > > ago, > > > > she > > > > > could not walk 20' without being significantly out of breath. > > She > > > > > needed to sleep 3 hours every afternoon. Now she does not take > > > > naps, > > > > > does 45 minutes of taiji daily, and is able to go on trips with > > > her > > > > > husband! (She is at a taiji seminar this weekend.) Now my > > friend > > > is > > > > > monitoring her Blood Glucose. She realizes that she was very > > > close > > > > > to full-fledged diabetes. AFter 3 weeks of making dietary > > changes > > > > > (using her monitor to measure success/failure in her choices), > > > her > > > > > blood glucose is much closer to normal. After 3 years of steady > > > > > weight gain (over 100# in just 1 year > > > > > > during > > > > > the black mold exposure), she if finally starting to lose > > > > > weight. And....she still cannot do any aerobic exercise as it > > > will > > > > > cause major shortness of breath! However, she can do > > > taiji...which > > > > > is cardio! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I like fish, it has to be Well cooked though! I've never been fishing! I have watched it on tv....it looks like fun! Irene Raynaud's Disease 09/07 PF 03/07 Canada ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:25 pm Subject: Re:Fish Bait Oh, I can take care of ....lol > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was in rehab, the emphasis was on aerobic-type > > exercise > > > > (eg > > > > > treadmill). When I questioned as to why this > > > > > was so important (as I > > > > > could do it for 30 minutes but then went home and collapsed!), > > > she > > > > > stated that it was to burn fat so that I could have a better > > Lean > > > > > Muscle:Body Fat ratio. The more LM I had, the more efficiently > > my > > > > > body could burn 02. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not have a problem with the concept. However, over > > these > > > 4 > > > > > past years, I have come to realize that the reality is skewed. > > > One > > > > > does NOT burn fat as a result of aerobic exercise UNLESS one's > > > > blood > > > > > sugar is in the fat-burning zone (70-95) and, even then, only > > if > > > > one > > > > > has sufficient LM to burn the fat! If the BG is higher than 95, > > > you > > > > > are in the glycogen-burning zone and your body will break down > > > its > > > > LM > > > > > to get the needed glycogens to burn during the exercise! This > > > meant > > > > > that aerobic exericse was counterproductive. (Now, keep in > > mind, > > > > that > > > > > cardio exercise is about circulating the blood while aerobic > > > > exericse > > > > > stresses the heart and lungs. True cardio...done in the > > > > > fat-burning > > > > > zone...does not breakdown LM). Since LM is the primary burner > > of > > > > > fat, unless you have a lot of surplus LM, aerobic exercise is > > > > > actually counter-productive. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I got more knowledge, I contacted the local pulmonary > > rehab > > > > > people in my new location and asked why they did not focus on > > > > > teaching people with lung disease how to INCREASE Lean Muscle > > (to > > > > > burn the fat) instead of focusing on aerobic exercise which > > would > > > > > break down what litle LM they had? The only answer I was given > > > was > > > > > that they were trying to improve the LM:BF ratio by burning the > > > > fat! > > > > > In other words, without even knowing if the client was in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, they were having the person do aerobic exercise > > to > > > > burn > > > > > fat! However, by using this method, you are only decreasing > > your > > > > > LM. The weight lost is not body fat but LM. Are any of you > > having > > > > > your body fat tested regularly or doing it yourself with > > > calipers? > > > > > The idea of > > > > > increasing LM and monitoring BF% was a novel idea to the > > > > > rehab people. In fact, the woman I spoke with was intrigued > > with > > > > the > > > > > fact that, when I finally stopped focusing on trying to do > > > aerobic > > > > > exericse (even at only 2 miles per hour) and > > > > > > began focusing on increasing LM, I finally began to notice > > > > > continued improvement in my energy level. (I dramatically > > > inproved > > > > my > > > > > LM:BF ratio ....increasing my LBM by 30# and decreasing BF by > > 16% > > > > in > > > > > 18 months!) It was only AFTER I increased my LM that I noticed > > > the > > > > > dramatic improvement in my energy that allowed me to seem > > normal > > > to > > > > > others (even though my 02 diffusion and lung volume had not > > > > > changed!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? Fat-burning does not result in a C02 residue while > > > glycogen- > > > > > burning does! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not talking about getting muscle-bound. I used hand > > > weights > > > > > and some DVD programs that did not involve aerobics > > > > > (www.joycevedral. com). I also went to body-building > > > > > websites and > > > > > asked many questions. It was on one of these websties > > > > > (www.jayrobb. com) that I learned about the fat-burning zone > > and > > > > > decided to purchase a blood glucose meter. (BTW....every body- > > > > builder > > > > > I contacted over the internet was more than willing to respond > > > > answer > > > > > my questions.) > > > > > > > > > > > > When I exercise in the fat-burning zone, I do not experience > > > the > > > > > exhaustion/tirednes s that follows exercise done in the > > glycogen- > > > > > burning zone (95+ Blood Glucose). The reason is simple; Fat- > > > > > burning does not increase C02 in the blood! Glycogen-burning > > does > > > > > increase C02 in the blood. That C02 has to get out of my blood > > > via > > > > > my lungs....which is where the crux of the problem lies! People > > > who > > > > > do not have lung disease can hyper-ventilate to get rid of the > > > > excess > > > > > C02 generated by aerobic exercise (done in the glycogen- burning > > > > zone) > > > > > but those of us with lung disease will have much more > > difficulty > > > > > removing it! The > > > > > unremoved C02 decreases our energy! > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one lose weight without aerobic exercise? I > > discovered > > > > > that the champion body-builders only use aerobic exercise to > > get > > > > body > > > > > fat % below 10% (abnormally low) by doing very high intensity > > > > > exercise which takes their HR to 85% of Maximum. This generates > > > > LOTS > > > > > OF C02! They refuse to do the kind of 'aerobic' exercise we are > > > > > taught in rehab because, they have discovered, it takes too > > much > > > > > time, burns only minimal fat, and risks breaking down LM!!!! > > > Until > > > > > the last 6 weeks prior to a major competition, they use diet > > (to > > > > keep > > > > > them in the fat-burning zone) and lean muscle (to burn the fat > > > > during > > > > > daily activities)! They use diet to get them into the fat- > > burning > > > > > zone (70-95 blood glucose) as, in this zone, the body is > > > NATURALLY > > > > > oxygenated at it best. As long as they have LM and stay in this > > > > > zone, the body NATURALLY burns fat for every activity...even > > > > sitting > > > > > and breathing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't have to have 'extreme' muscles to burn fat in the > > fat- > > > > > burning zone. However, you do have to have LM! When I began > > > trying > > > > > to increase my LM (3 years ago), I discovered that. at 190#, my > > > BF% > > > > > was 42%. My LBM was only 110#. Most of this weight had been > > > gained > > > > > after I lost LM when I couldn't eat or breathe! (My prior > > weight > > > > was > > > > > 140# with 28% BF.) I realized that I did not have sufficient LM > > > to > > > > > burn fat at more than a snail's pace. Even then, I would have > > > > regular > > > > > setbacks when I tried to do even cardio exercise three days in > > a > > > > > row! Therefore, I spent 18 months increasing LM. One month > > ago, I > > > > > weighed 190# with only 26% BF......that means I now have 141# > > of > > > > > LBM. My weight did not go down because LM weighs more than BF. > > > > > However, when I finally could not do more weight-training > > (cannot > > > > > lift more than 8# because of scar tissue from lung biopsy), I > > > > stopped > > > > > losing body fat. Please note that I did not need > > > > > to lift more than > > > > > 8# in order to increase my LBM by 30#. > > > > > > However, I did need to learn how to do weight training > > properly > > > > > and I found Joyce Vedral's programs to be the easiest to > > > understand > > > > > and use. (She was trained by Weider and participated in women's > > > > > championship programs. She is currently 61. Her programs are > > for > > > > > men and women. ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I knew about the fat-burning zone, I only learned > > > about > > > > > using a Blood Glucose monitor to check my blood sugar about a > > > > months > > > > > ago when I got Jay Robb's THE FAT-BURNING BOOK. Now that I > > have a > > > > > way to monitor whether or not I am in the fat-burning zone, I > > > have > > > > > finally begun using my LM to burn BF.....except at night when I > > > > > desaturate to about 82% during a deep sleep. I have lost 8# in > > > this > > > > > past month....none of it LM as my BF has also decreased by > > 1.5%! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now...before I begin any exercise, I take my BG. If it is > > > greater > > > > > than 90, I DON'T exercise as I > > > > > know I will enter the glycogen-burning > > > > > zone too easily. It is more important to me to stay in the fat- > > > > > burning zone than to exercise as exercise in the glycogen- > > burning > > > > > zone will result in an increase in C02 which I will have to > > > remove > > > > > from my lungs. In other words, it is counter-productive. If my > > BG > > > > > is in the 80's, I exercise in my cardio range (about 50%-60% of > > > my > > > > > MHR). I then check my BG 15 minutes after completing my > > exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. If there is only minimal change (decrease) in my BG, I > > have > > > > > done good. > > > > > > 2. If my BG has decreased, I have increased C02....which will > > > > > need to be released through quiet time. Generally the amount of > > > > > increase is only slight. > > > > > > 3. If my BG has increased, I have broken down LM for > > glycogen. > > > > > Generally this is only a small increase when I am doing my > > > strength > > > > > yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if I begin exercising when my BG is above 90, it > > > is > > > > > not unusual for my BG to > > > > > go up by 20-30 points during the exercise as > > > > > my body breaks down LM for its glycogen. If I exercise in my > > fat- > > > > > burning zone, my BG rarely goes up. But if it does, it is by no > > > > more > > > > > than 3-5 points....LM breakdown is limited. Please keep in mind > > > > that > > > > > I try to do 30-45 minutes of strength yoga (which does repeated > > > > push- > > > > > ups) every day! This is an isometric form of strength training. > > > It > > > > > took me two years to build up the strength to be able to > > > > > do 'chaturanga' because of the scarring in my lungs from the > > open > > > > > lung biopsy! > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I do not know if anyone is even interested in this > > > > > information but, since it took me 4 years to accumulate these > > > facts > > > > > (mainly from body-builders) and 3 years of experimentation to > > > prove > > > > > they work, I want to pass them on. I keep hoping that someone > > > else > > > > > will be able to benefit from this knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW.... > > > > > > > > > > > > How did my morbidly obese friend (350# at 52% BF) with > > > > > severe > > > > > ashtma (from black mold exposure) benefit from this? She began > > > > > focusing on increasing LM (using hand weights) for 1` year. > > (LBM= > > > > > 168#; BF=182#) Her weight did not change but her LM:BF ratio > > did > > > as > > > > > her BF% dropped from 52% to 52%. LBM=203 and BF=147. Then she > > > began > > > > > doing taiji (which increases oxygen in the body.) 2.5 years > > ago, > > > > she > > > > > could not walk 20' without being significantly out of breath. > > She > > > > > needed to sleep 3 hours every afternoon. Now she does not take > > > > naps, > > > > > does 45 minutes of taiji daily, and is able to go on trips with > > > her > > > > > husband! (She is at a taiji seminar this weekend.) Now my > > friend > > > is > > > > > monitoring her Blood Glucose. She realizes that she was very > > > close > > > > > to full-fledged diabetes. AFter 3 weeks of making dietary > > changes > > > > > (using her monitor to measure success/failure in her choices), > > > her > > > > > blood glucose is much closer to normal. After 3 years of steady > > > > > weight gain (over 100# in just 1 year > > > > > > during > > > > > the black mold exposure), she if finally starting to lose > > > > > weight. And....she still cannot do any aerobic exercise as it > > > will > > > > > cause major shortness of breath! However, she can do > > > taiji...which > > > > > is cardio! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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