Re: Hyper to Hypo - Help Required

[Guest guest]

Hi Damian...

Have you had your antibodies checked? You could very well have Hashimoto's thyroiditis. As the antibodies build thyroid function slows and you go hypo... as thyroid levels drop the antibodies drop until the thyroid starts to kick in again and you go hyper... as the thyroid levels come up the antibodies come up and you again go hypo... for some folks this cycle can take years as it swings back and forth.... for others weeks.... for some, days....

It also wouldn't be a bad idea to get a scan... to check for nodules...

As much as we'd all like to find a nutritional or lifestyle angle to help our thyroids level out and produce as we need them to, if there is a physical problem with the gland or a disease issue such as Hashi's... you will need to treat it... I hate saying that... but the longer that your body is forced to function on erratic levels of hormone the more you will suffer in the long run.

Could you post your lab results again, with the lab's ranges? That way we'll be able to see just where you fall within the lab's ranges. Each lab is different...

Could you list the supplements that you have been/are taking?

It takes longer that a week for the effects of a T4 only med (Synthroid) to show any affects so there may be something to what you were taking to lower your thyroid levels.

I was hyper for some twenty years and then went into thyroid storm, so I can relate to the joint pain and the starvation hunger.... My first doc was in fantasy land and ignored my symptoms so I went far too long before being diagnosed, I ended up having RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy my gland before it killed me.

There is a little reading that you may like to do when you have a few minutes;

The hormones, the tests and the meds:

www.thyrophoenix.com/thyroid_101.htm

How to monitor your metabolic rate between labs:

www.thyrophoenix.com/self_monitor.htm

Bad foods, foods that counter thyroid hormone, good to eat if hyper, bad to eat if hypo:

www.thyrophoenix.com/bad_foods.htm

Topper ()

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:34:01 -0000 "Damian_in_SJ" writes:

I started off being Hyper Thyroid (TSH = 0, Free T4 = 0.99). I electednot to have any prescribed treatment until the test results of my nextappointment because I wanted to try a holistic approach first –1. A range of vitamins and minerals2. Herbal Supplements3. Thyroid specific yoga postures and energy breathing.4. AcupunctureI started to notice some positive results after about 6 weeks – bypositive results I mean1. Joint pain was dramatically reduced.2. The desperate need for food was also dramatically reduced3. I put back on the 10lbs I had lost.4. I started to go on a Xtrainer for 5minutes and also went on a fewweight machines in the Gym for the first time in about 6 weeks.At this time I saw the specialist who was quite pleased with myprogress, from the new blood test she said I was now Hypo Thyroid (TSH=10.81, Free T4 = 0.62) and prescribed Synthroid (50mcg). I stoppedtaking the herbal remedy for Hyper Thyroid and reset my homeacupuncture kit for Hypo Thyroid.After a few days of being on the Synthroid I was feeling the symptomsassociated with Hyper Thyroid – I spoke to the specialist and reducedmy dose to 25mcg per day after the first week. I have had one week atthe lower dose and still have the food craving because of theweakness/tremors, joint pain and sweats along with one day at theweekend where I am wiped out.Based on the information can anybody give me some advice with respectto the following questions?1. How long could I expect to wait to see some improvement2. Is there anything I need to ask my specialist (my next appointmentis in just under three weeks time)Thank you in advanceDamian

[Guest guest]

Hi Damian...

Have you had your antibodies checked? You could very well have Hashimoto's thyroiditis. As the antibodies build thyroid function slows and you go hypo... as thyroid levels drop the antibodies drop until the thyroid starts to kick in again and you go hyper... as the thyroid levels come up the antibodies come up and you again go hypo... for some folks this cycle can take years as it swings back and forth.... for others weeks.... for some, days....

It also wouldn't be a bad idea to get a scan... to check for nodules...

As much as we'd all like to find a nutritional or lifestyle angle to help our thyroids level out and produce as we need them to, if there is a physical problem with the gland or a disease issue such as Hashi's... you will need to treat it... I hate saying that... but the longer that your body is forced to function on erratic levels of hormone the more you will suffer in the long run.

Could you post your lab results again, with the lab's ranges? That way we'll be able to see just where you fall within the lab's ranges. Each lab is different...

Could you list the supplements that you have been/are taking?

It takes longer that a week for the effects of a T4 only med (Synthroid) to show any affects so there may be something to what you were taking to lower your thyroid levels.

I was hyper for some twenty years and then went into thyroid storm, so I can relate to the joint pain and the starvation hunger.... My first doc was in fantasy land and ignored my symptoms so I went far too long before being diagnosed, I ended up having RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy my gland before it killed me.

There is a little reading that you may like to do when you have a few minutes;

The hormones, the tests and the meds:

www.thyrophoenix.com/thyroid_101.htm

How to monitor your metabolic rate between labs:

www.thyrophoenix.com/self_monitor.htm

Bad foods, foods that counter thyroid hormone, good to eat if hyper, bad to eat if hypo:

www.thyrophoenix.com/bad_foods.htm

Topper ()

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:34:01 -0000 "Damian_in_SJ" writes:

I started off being Hyper Thyroid (TSH = 0, Free T4 = 0.99). I electednot to have any prescribed treatment until the test results of my nextappointment because I wanted to try a holistic approach first –1. A range of vitamins and minerals2. Herbal Supplements3. Thyroid specific yoga postures and energy breathing.4. AcupunctureI started to notice some positive results after about 6 weeks – bypositive results I mean1. Joint pain was dramatically reduced.2. The desperate need for food was also dramatically reduced3. I put back on the 10lbs I had lost.4. I started to go on a Xtrainer for 5minutes and also went on a fewweight machines in the Gym for the first time in about 6 weeks.At this time I saw the specialist who was quite pleased with myprogress, from the new blood test she said I was now Hypo Thyroid (TSH=10.81, Free T4 = 0.62) and prescribed Synthroid (50mcg). I stoppedtaking the herbal remedy for Hyper Thyroid and reset my homeacupuncture kit for Hypo Thyroid.After a few days of being on the Synthroid I was feeling the symptomsassociated with Hyper Thyroid – I spoke to the specialist and reducedmy dose to 25mcg per day after the first week. I have had one week atthe lower dose and still have the food craving because of theweakness/tremors, joint pain and sweats along with one day at theweekend where I am wiped out.Based on the information can anybody give me some advice with respectto the following questions?1. How long could I expect to wait to see some improvement2. Is there anything I need to ask my specialist (my next appointmentis in just under three weeks time)Thank you in advanceDamian

[Guest guest]

Hi Damian...

Have you had your antibodies checked? You could very well have Hashimoto's thyroiditis. As the antibodies build thyroid function slows and you go hypo... as thyroid levels drop the antibodies drop until the thyroid starts to kick in again and you go hyper... as the thyroid levels come up the antibodies come up and you again go hypo... for some folks this cycle can take years as it swings back and forth.... for others weeks.... for some, days....

It also wouldn't be a bad idea to get a scan... to check for nodules...

As much as we'd all like to find a nutritional or lifestyle angle to help our thyroids level out and produce as we need them to, if there is a physical problem with the gland or a disease issue such as Hashi's... you will need to treat it... I hate saying that... but the longer that your body is forced to function on erratic levels of hormone the more you will suffer in the long run.

Could you post your lab results again, with the lab's ranges? That way we'll be able to see just where you fall within the lab's ranges. Each lab is different...

Could you list the supplements that you have been/are taking?

It takes longer that a week for the effects of a T4 only med (Synthroid) to show any affects so there may be something to what you were taking to lower your thyroid levels.

I was hyper for some twenty years and then went into thyroid storm, so I can relate to the joint pain and the starvation hunger.... My first doc was in fantasy land and ignored my symptoms so I went far too long before being diagnosed, I ended up having RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy my gland before it killed me.

There is a little reading that you may like to do when you have a few minutes;

The hormones, the tests and the meds:

www.thyrophoenix.com/thyroid_101.htm

How to monitor your metabolic rate between labs:

www.thyrophoenix.com/self_monitor.htm

Bad foods, foods that counter thyroid hormone, good to eat if hyper, bad to eat if hypo:

www.thyrophoenix.com/bad_foods.htm

Topper ()

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:34:01 -0000 "Damian_in_SJ" writes:

I started off being Hyper Thyroid (TSH = 0, Free T4 = 0.99). I electednot to have any prescribed treatment until the test results of my nextappointment because I wanted to try a holistic approach first –1. A range of vitamins and minerals2. Herbal Supplements3. Thyroid specific yoga postures and energy breathing.4. AcupunctureI started to notice some positive results after about 6 weeks – bypositive results I mean1. Joint pain was dramatically reduced.2. The desperate need for food was also dramatically reduced3. I put back on the 10lbs I had lost.4. I started to go on a Xtrainer for 5minutes and also went on a fewweight machines in the Gym for the first time in about 6 weeks.At this time I saw the specialist who was quite pleased with myprogress, from the new blood test she said I was now Hypo Thyroid (TSH=10.81, Free T4 = 0.62) and prescribed Synthroid (50mcg). I stoppedtaking the herbal remedy for Hyper Thyroid and reset my homeacupuncture kit for Hypo Thyroid.After a few days of being on the Synthroid I was feeling the symptomsassociated with Hyper Thyroid – I spoke to the specialist and reducedmy dose to 25mcg per day after the first week. I have had one week atthe lower dose and still have the food craving because of theweakness/tremors, joint pain and sweats along with one day at theweekend where I am wiped out.Based on the information can anybody give me some advice with respectto the following questions?1. How long could I expect to wait to see some improvement2. Is there anything I need to ask my specialist (my next appointmentis in just under three weeks time)Thank you in advanceDamian

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you for the information. I have been tested for anti-bodies and don't have

Hashimoto's thyroiditis, I will be getting a scan on my next visit.

My medication is isn't soley focused on the thyroid the objective is to get the

whole system balance, I am taking

Macca

Bladerwack

Vits A,B-Complex, C, D,E,

Minerals Selenium Manganese Magnesium Calcium

Omege3 oil

I also self treat with accupuncture every day.

I have a great deal of experience with energy breathing techniques - which

certainly have quite a balancing effect on the system

I wear a Q-Link pendant to reduce the electormagnetic effects of computers (I

was told a years ago that computers stressed the thyroid and the disease has

increase by 8% over the last decaade) - I have read reports on blood analysis of

people wearing the pendant and feel like there might be validty in the claims -

my personal view is I don't know - however it is no hardship to wear the

pendant.

Regards,

Damian

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From: topper2@...

Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:10:40 -0500

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

Hi Damian...

Have you had your antibodies checked? You could very well have

Hashimoto's thyroiditis. As the antibodies build thyroid function slows

and you go hypo... as thyroid levels drop the antibodies drop until the

thyroid starts to kick in again and you go hyper... as the thyroid levels

come up the antibodies come up and you again go hypo... for some folks

this cycle can take years as it swings back and forth.... for others

weeks.... for some, days....

It also wouldn't be a bad idea to get a scan... to check for nodules...

As much as we'd all like to find a nutritional or lifestyle angle to help

our thyroids level out and produce as we need them to, if there is a

physical problem with the gland or a disease issue such as Hashi's... you

will need to treat it... I hate saying that... but the longer that your

body is forced to function on erratic levels of hormone the more you will

suffer in the long run.

Could you post your lab results again, with the lab's ranges? That way

we'll be able to see just where you fall within the lab's ranges. Each

lab is different...

Could you list the supplements that you have been/are taking?

It takes longer that a week for the effects of a T4 only med (Synthroid)

to show any affects so there may be something to what you were taking to

lower your thyroid levels.

I was hyper for some twenty years and then went into thyroid storm, so I

can relate to the joint pain and the starvation hunger.... My first doc

was in fantasy land and ignored my symptoms so I went far too long before

being diagnosed, I ended up having RAI (radioactive iodine) to destroy my

gland before it killed me.

There is a little reading that you may like to do when you have a few

minutes;

The hormones, the tests and the meds:

www.thyrophoenix.com/thyroid_101.htm

How to monitor your metabolic rate between labs:

www.thyrophoenix.com/self_monitor.htm

Bad foods, foods that counter thyroid hormone, good to eat if hyper, bad

to eat if hypo:

www.thyrophoenix.com/bad_foods.htm

Topper ()

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:34:01 -0000 " Damian_in_SJ "

writes:

I started off being Hyper Thyroid (TSH = 0, Free T4 = 0.99). I elected

not to have any prescribed treatment until the test results of my next

appointment because I wanted to try a holistic approach first –

1. A range of vitamins and minerals

2. Herbal Supplements

3. Thyroid specific yoga postures and energy breathing.

4. Acupuncture

I started to notice some positive results after about 6 weeks – by

positive results I mean

1. Joint pain was dramatically reduced.

2. The desperate need for food was also dramatically reduced

3. I put back on the 10lbs I had lost.

4. I started to go on a Xtrainer for 5minutes and also went on a few

weight machines in the Gym for the first time in about 6 weeks.

At this time I saw the specialist who was quite pleased with my

progress, from the new blood test she said I was now Hypo Thyroid (TSH

=10.81, Free T4 = 0.62) and prescribed Synthroid (50mcg). I stopped

taking the herbal remedy for Hyper Thyroid and reset my home

acupuncture kit for Hypo Thyroid.

After a few days of being on the Synthroid I was feeling the symptoms

associated with Hyper Thyroid – I spoke to the specialist and reduced

my dose to 25mcg per day after the first week. I have had one week at

the lower dose and still have the food craving because of the

weakness/tremors, joint pain and sweats along with one day at the

weekend where I am wiped out.

Based on the information can anybody give me some advice with respect

to the following questions?

1. How long could I expect to wait to see some improvement

2. Is there anything I need to ask my specialist (my next

appointment

is in just under three weeks time)

Thank you in advance

Damian

[Guest guest]

Probably eventually, you will become hypothyroid due to gradual

damage to the thyroid. In Graves disease, the body produces

antibodies against the thyroid that mimmick TSH hormone and so the

thyroid thinks it is getting the message to make lots of hormone.

Eventually, the thyroid is damaged or burns out and you become hypo.

However, the situation can clear up and you could go for many years

without problems. There is no way to know what will happen. My

mother had this and after a year she had no more problems for 20

years. Then she had to go on medication for hypothryoidism at age 65.

There is an option you can try and that is to take enough thyroid to

suppress your own thyroid. This will lower activity in your thyroid

and thus lower whatever it is that is triggering antibody attack.

Over time, this can lower antibody levels and calm the thyroid. It

will also protect your thyroid from further damage. Then after some

time, you can try to go off and see how it goes. I would not use

Synthroid, however. I would want Armour because it most closely

matches human thyroid hormone.

Your other option is to do a lot of research and continue your

health changes to see if you can get things corrected enough to be

mostly normal. You can go back and fourth with your hypo/hyper

routine. A good way to monitor where you are is by using the

instructions here: http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp This will let

you know if you are hypo or hyper. Then, you won't have to rely on

tests so much. You can do this and hope that the problem calms over

time.

I personally would avoid excess Iodine as this can really exacerbate

auto-immune thyroid disease. You can also use goitergens such as

cabbage juice, raw cruciferous vegetables, beans and nuts to slow

thyroid sunction when hyper. These are very safe compared to the

toxic anti-thryoid medications. You can also try MACA, progesterone

cream, and coconut oil, when hypo. This should help improve

function. Progesterone cream should also calm the aoto-immune thing,

since it opposes estrogen. Estrogen excess, seems to trigger auto-

immune condtions. so, I would avoid estrogens.

You may get tired of all this work. If you do, you will have to

search around pretty hard for a smart doctor for your condition who

will give you enough thyroid to suppress yours and protect it from

further damage. About 11% of thyroid patients can be cured by going

on high enough therapy to slow or stop antibody production. After

about about 6 to 8 years they are cured.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Interesting about the pendant... I've heard that keeping the monitor more than an arm's length away prevents over exposure....

I'll be eager to hear how you are doing.... I'm fascinated by how the body works... and would love to hear your results.

I would like to comment.. that if you take vitamin C and selenium at the same time you must take them with food or the Vitamin C will actually cancel out the selenium... it's the only thing that Vitamin C hinders... It binds with the selenium if it can't hide with food.... where the C helps with absorption of just about everything else we take.

I'd like to learn more about breathing, myself... I find that there is actually a breathing exercise that helps with lymphedema drainage.... that combined with what I do know, which isnt' that much, makes me think that there is a lot more to learn....

Topper ()

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:37:05 -0700 "Damian Healey" writes:

Hi ,Thank you for the information. I have been tested for anti-bodies and don't have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, I will be getting a scan on my next visit.My medication is isn't soley focused on the thyroid the objective is to get the whole system balance, I am taking Macca BladerwackVits A,B-Complex, C, D,E, Minerals Selenium Manganese Magnesium CalciumOmege3 oilI also self treat with accupuncture every day.I have a great deal of experience with energy breathing techniques - which certainly have quite a balancing effect on the systemI wear a Q-Link pendant to reduce the electormagnetic effects of computers (I was told a years ago that computers stressed the thyroid and the disease has increase by 8% over the last decaade) - I have read reports on blood analysis of people wearing the pendant and feel like there might be validty in the claims - my personal view is I don't know - however it is no hardship to wear the pendant.Regards,Damian

[Guest guest]

Interesting about the pendant... I've heard that keeping the monitor more than an arm's length away prevents over exposure....

I'll be eager to hear how you are doing.... I'm fascinated by how the body works... and would love to hear your results.

I would like to comment.. that if you take vitamin C and selenium at the same time you must take them with food or the Vitamin C will actually cancel out the selenium... it's the only thing that Vitamin C hinders... It binds with the selenium if it can't hide with food.... where the C helps with absorption of just about everything else we take.

I'd like to learn more about breathing, myself... I find that there is actually a breathing exercise that helps with lymphedema drainage.... that combined with what I do know, which isnt' that much, makes me think that there is a lot more to learn....

Topper ()

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:37:05 -0700 "Damian Healey" writes:

Hi ,Thank you for the information. I have been tested for anti-bodies and don't have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, I will be getting a scan on my next visit.My medication is isn't soley focused on the thyroid the objective is to get the whole system balance, I am taking Macca BladerwackVits A,B-Complex, C, D,E, Minerals Selenium Manganese Magnesium CalciumOmege3 oilI also self treat with accupuncture every day.I have a great deal of experience with energy breathing techniques - which certainly have quite a balancing effect on the systemI wear a Q-Link pendant to reduce the electormagnetic effects of computers (I was told a years ago that computers stressed the thyroid and the disease has increase by 8% over the last decaade) - I have read reports on blood analysis of people wearing the pendant and feel like there might be validty in the claims - my personal view is I don't know - however it is no hardship to wear the pendant.Regards,Damian

[Guest guest]

A distance from ther monitor will help - but it is still an issue, the

best solution is a flat screen display, you then only have to contend

with the electromagnetic fields from the computer itself.

Thank you for the information about the selenium - I take all my vits

after a huge bowl of porridge first thing - I take the herbs 3 times a

day on an empty stomach.

With reference to the energy breathing - find a good yoga teacher who

actively does the techniques on a regular basis - unfortunatley that

might be quite a task as they are in the minority.

The breathing techniques are powerfull however they don't work

overnight and therefore require discipline and perseverance - most

people give up as they are taking it in faith until they know for a

fact themselves, an added bonus to the health benefits is a deeper

understanding of yourself.

Damian

> Interesting about the pendant... I've heard that keeping the monitor

more

> than an arm's length away prevents over exposure....

>

> I'll be eager to hear how you are doing.... I'm fascinated by how the

> body works... and would love to hear your results.

>

> I would like to comment.. that if you take vitamin C and selenium at the

> same time you must take them with food or the Vitamin C will actually

> cancel out the selenium... it's the only thing that Vitamin C hinders...

> It binds with the selenium if it can't hide with food.... where the C

> helps with absorption of just about everything else we take.

>

> I'd like to learn more about breathing, myself... I find that there is

> actually a breathing exercise that helps with lymphedema drainage....

> that combined with what I do know, which isnt' that much, makes me think

> that there is a lot more to learn....

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:37:05 -0700 " Damian Healey "

> <damian@w...> writes:

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thank you for the information. I have been tested for anti-bodies and

> don't have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, I will be getting a scan on my next

> visit.

>

> My medication is isn't soley focused on the thyroid the objective is to

> get the whole system balance, I am taking

> Macca

> Bladerwack

> Vits A,B-Complex, C, D,E,

> Minerals Selenium Manganese Magnesium Calcium

> Omege3 oil

>

> I also self treat with accupuncture every day.

>

> I have a great deal of experience with energy breathing techniques -

> which certainly have quite a balancing effect on the system

>

> I wear a Q-Link pendant to reduce the electormagnetic effects of

> computers (I was told a years ago that computers stressed the

thyroid and

> the disease has increase by 8% over the last decaade) - I have read

> reports on blood analysis of people wearing the pendant and feel like

> there might be validty in the claims - my personal view is I don't

know -

> however it is no hardship to wear the pendant.

>

> Regards,

>

>

> Damian

[Guest guest]

There is nothing about a .9 T4 that is hyperthyroid, regardless of what your

TSH was at that time. You were HYPOthyroid then. Now you're even more hypo

than you were in the beginning. I don't know what the weight loss was

about, but none of those labs were hyper, they were hypo. IF you had been

hyper before from Hashimoto's Thyroiditis swings back and forth between

hyper and hypo, then it may have been in a time period before either one of

these labs. I think that your remedies may have helped you even further

downhill in hypo land. Have you been reading all the posts about what

signifies hypo and hyper on lab reports?

Hyper to Hypo - Help Required

>

>

> I started off being Hyper Thyroid (TSH = 0, Free T4 = 0.99). I elected

> not to have any prescribed treatment until the test results of my next

> appointment because I wanted to try a holistic approach first -

> 1. A range of vitamins and minerals

> 2. Herbal Supplements

> 3. Thyroid specific yoga postures and energy breathing.

> 4. Acupuncture

>

> I started to notice some positive results after about 6 weeks - by

> positive results I mean

> 1. Joint pain was dramatically reduced.

> 2. The desperate need for food was also dramatically reduced

> 3. I put back on the 10lbs I had lost.

> 4. I started to go on a Xtrainer for 5minutes and also went on a few

> weight machines in the Gym for the first time in about 6 weeks.

>

> At this time I saw the specialist who was quite pleased with my

> progress, from the new blood test she said I was now Hypo Thyroid (TSH

> =10.81, Free T4 = 0.62) and prescribed Synthroid (50mcg). I stopped

> taking the herbal remedy for Hyper Thyroid and reset my home

> acupuncture kit for Hypo Thyroid.

> After a few days of being on the Synthroid I was feeling the symptoms

> associated with Hyper Thyroid - I spoke to the specialist and reduced

> my dose to 25mcg per day after the first week. I have had one week at

> the lower dose and still have the food craving because of the

> weakness/tremors, joint pain and sweats along with one day at the

> weekend where I am wiped out.

>

> Based on the information can anybody give me some advice with respect

> to the following questions?

> 1. How long could I expect to wait to see some improvement

> 2. Is there anything I need to ask my specialist (my next appointment

> is in just under three weeks time)

>

> Thank you in advance

>

> Damian

[Guest guest]

Damian

What was your Free T3? This is of major importance to know this. A Free T4

of .9 is NOT hyper, it IS hypo. Your low TSH does not mean that you are

hyper. TSH is the pituitary hormone, NOT the thyroid hormones. You were

hypo when the first testing that you mentioned was done.

Re: Hyper to Hypo - Help Required

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thank you for the information. I have been tested for anti-bodies and

don't have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, I will be getting a scan on my next

visit.

>

> My medication is isn't soley focused on the thyroid the objective is to

get the whole system balance, I am taking

> Macca

> Bladerwack

> Vits A,B-Complex, C, D,E,

> Minerals Selenium Manganese Magnesium Calcium

> Omege3 oil

>

> I also self treat with accupuncture every day.

>

> I have a great deal of experience with energy breathing techniques - which

certainly have quite a balancing effect on the system

>

> I wear a Q-Link pendant to reduce the electormagnetic effects of computers

(I was told a years ago that computers stressed the thyroid and the disease

has increase by 8% over the last decaade) - I have read reports on blood

analysis of people wearing the pendant and feel like there might be validty

in the claims - my personal view is I don't know - however it is no hardship

to wear the pendant.

>

> Regards,

>

>

> Damian