Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Very Interesting Chris. I have tried supplementing with iodine with very negative results, usually after a few days with even small amounts like 1/8 teaspoon of high quality cold-water kelp, my thyroid and my neck muscles feel very tense and sore. It also worsened all of my common mercury toxicity symptoms. From my reading I determined that iodine most likely is displacing mercury and other toxins such as flouride that are in my thyroid gland. I show no signs of thyroid problems normally, and do not have chronic fatigue and am at a very healthy weight. The third possibility you mentioned, " - during sleep, detoxification pathways or other cyclical metabolic processes are activated that use iodine " seems the most probable to me as well. The body probably has some processes involving iodine that it only does efficiently while the body is resting. - > > I started iodine painting a few days ago, and I noticed that my skin > appeared to absorb the iodine at a considerably accelerated rate while > I was sleeping. > > The first day, I painted a 1.5x1 " patch on my belly around 7pm. When > I went to bed at 10, it did not appear to have changed, but when I > woke up it was gone. Upon waking and seeing it gone, I painted a 2x2 " > patch (all the rest of the patches are this size) around 6 or 7am, and > by the evening, it seemed only a little lighter, but when I woke up it > was gone. > > Usually I eat dinner at 6pm and sleep 10pm to 6am. The night before > last, I didn't eat until 8pm and didn't get to bed until 11:30pm, and > woke up at 5:30 am. I had iodine painted the previous morning around > 6am, yet even after going through sleep this day, it was still present > and distinctly orange in color on my skin! > > Since the patch was still there, I didn't paint again until after > work, when it was finally gone, around 3:30. This was yesterday. > Yesterday, I ate around 5:30pm, went to bed at 8pm and got up at 6am, > and the painting was gone. > > If you compare the previous two days, in one case, when I got only six > hours of sleep, it took at least 24 hours but less than 34 hours for > the patch to absorb. Yet on the following day (today) when I slept > for 10 hours, it took at least four hours but less than 15 hours to > absorb. > > A possible interpretation of the first day mentioned in the above > paragraph would have been that I had brought myself up to a certain > level of sufficiency, so the iodine supplementation became less > necessary. But the experience of the second day mentioned in the > above paragraph suggests that this is not the case and that sleep is > the operative factor. > > There are a few possibilities I can think of off the top of my head: > > - during sleep, prolonged fasting precludes obtaining iodine from food > stores that have not been fully digested > - during sleep, thyroid hormone elevates in order to break down energy > that can not be gotten from undigested food stores > - during sleep, detoxification pathways or other cyclical metabolic > processes are activated that use iodine > > The first one seems unlikely, because in the last two days, I had the > same amount of total fasting between meals. In one case, my meal was > bumped up two hours, but I did not snack in between, so I just moved > two hours of fasting from during the beginning of sleep to before > dinner. This might affect my ability to detox during sleep, but > wouldn't affect the total time I had to go without a dietary source of > iodine. > > The second one may or may not be true. I'm sure it's well known > whether thyroid hormone goes up or down during sleep but I didn't try > to look it up. The third one seems likely to me. > > Chris > -- > Dioxins in Animal Foods: > A Case For Vegetarianism? > Find Out the Truth: > http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Friction of laying on and/or heat of being in bed could be part or all of why iodine absorbs faster at night too. Wanita REMOC <REMOCLIHP@...> wrote: I notice the same thing with me. When I paint the iodine oon in the morning it lasts about 13-14 hours;but whne applied at bedtime it is gone before the next morning. Mentioned with some local WAP people and their thought was more is used up at night when the body does most of its repair. This makes sense to me. It would be interesting to see when at night it is finally gone:ie does the body loose more after the " liver cycle " around 2:00? I just had a thought. Is not the production of GH related to thyroid function? I would think more of the hormone is made at night. Phil Iodine and Sleep I started iodine painting a few days ago, and I noticed that my skin appeared to absorb the iodine at a considerably accelerated rate while I was sleeping. The first day, I painted a 1.5x1 " patch on my belly around 7pm. When I went to bed at 10, it did not appear to have changed, but when I woke up it was gone. Upon waking and seeing it gone, I painted a 2x2 " patch (all the rest of the patches are this size) around 6 or 7am, and by the evening, it seemed only a little lighter, but when I woke up it was gone. Usually I eat dinner at 6pm and sleep 10pm to 6am. The night before last, I didn't eat until 8pm and didn't get to bed until 11:30pm, and woke up at 5:30 am. I had iodine painted the previous morning around 6am, yet even after going through sleep this day, it was still present and distinctly orange in color on my skin! Since the patch was still there, I didn't paint again until after work, when it was finally gone, around 3:30. This was yesterday. Yesterday, I ate around 5:30pm, went to bed at 8pm and got up at 6am, and the painting was gone. If you compare the previous two days, in one case, when I got only six hours of sleep, it took at least 24 hours but less than 34 hours for the patch to absorb. Yet on the following day (today) when I slept for 10 hours, it took at least four hours but less than 15 hours to absorb. A possible interpretation of the first day mentioned in the above paragraph would have been that I had brought myself up to a certain level of sufficiency, so the iodine supplementation became less necessary. But the experience of the second day mentioned in the above paragraph suggests that this is not the case and that sleep is the operative factor. There are a few possibilities I can think of off the top of my head: - during sleep, prolonged fasting precludes obtaining iodine from food stores that have not been fully digested - during sleep, thyroid hormone elevates in order to break down energy that can not be gotten from undigested food stores - during sleep, detoxification pathways or other cyclical metabolic processes are activated that use iodine The first one seems unlikely, because in the last two days, I had the same amount of total fasting between meals. In one case, my meal was bumped up two hours, but I did not snack in between, so I just moved two hours of fasting from during the beginning of sleep to before dinner. This might affect my ability to detox during sleep, but wouldn't affect the total time I had to go without a dietary source of iodine. The second one may or may not be true. I'm sure it's well known whether thyroid hormone goes up or down during sleep but I didn't try to look it up. The third one seems likely to me. Chris -- Dioxins in Animal Foods: A Case For Vegetarianism? Find Out the Truth: http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 is this a way of getting iodine into your bodies? also, I checked at Wal-Mart yesterday and could not find iodine...where do you get yours from? http://www.boxertown.com Iodine and Sleep I started iodine painting a few days ago, and I noticed that my skin appeared to absorb the iodine at a considerably accelerated rate while I was sleeping. The first day, I painted a 1.5x1 " patch on my belly around 7pm. When I went to bed at 10, it did not appear to have changed, but when I woke up it was gone. Upon waking and seeing it gone, I painted a 2x2 " patch (all the rest of the patches are this size) around 6 or 7am, and by the evening, it seemed only a little lighter, but when I woke up it was gone. Usually I eat dinner at 6pm and sleep 10pm to 6am. The night before last, I didn't eat until 8pm and didn't get to bed until 11:30pm, and woke up at 5:30 am. I had iodine painted the previous morning around 6am, yet even after going through sleep this day, it was still present and distinctly orange in color on my skin! Since the patch was still there, I didn't paint again until after work, when it was finally gone, around 3:30. This was yesterday. Yesterday, I ate around 5:30pm, went to bed at 8pm and got up at 6am, and the painting was gone. If you compare the previous two days, in one case, when I got only six hours of sleep, it took at least 24 hours but less than 34 hours for the patch to absorb. Yet on the following day (today) when I slept for 10 hours, it took at least four hours but less than 15 hours to absorb. A possible interpretation of the first day mentioned in the above paragraph would have been that I had brought myself up to a certain level of sufficiency, so the iodine supplementation became less necessary. But the experience of the second day mentioned in the above paragraph suggests that this is not the case and that sleep is the operative factor. There are a few possibilities I can think of off the top of my head: - during sleep, prolonged fasting precludes obtaining iodine from food stores that have not been fully digested - during sleep, thyroid hormone elevates in order to break down energy that can not be gotten from undigested food stores - during sleep, detoxification pathways or other cyclical metabolic processes are activated that use iodine The first one seems unlikely, because in the last two days, I had the same amount of total fasting between meals. In one case, my meal was bumped up two hours, but I did not snack in between, so I just moved two hours of fasting from during the beginning of sleep to before dinner. This might affect my ability to detox during sleep, but wouldn't affect the total time I had to go without a dietary source of iodine. The second one may or may not be true. I'm sure it's well known whether thyroid hormone goes up or down during sleep but I didn't try to look it up. The third one seems likely to me. Chris -- Dioxins in Animal Foods: A Case For Vegetarianism? Find Out the Truth: http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 What is GH? On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:41 AM, REMOC wrote: > I just had a thought. Is not the production of GH related to thyroid > function? I would think more of the hormone is made at night. Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 On 4/8/06, Parashis <artpages@...> wrote: > What is GH? Growth hormone. Chris -- Dioxins in Animal Foods: A Case For Vegetarianism? Find Out the Truth: http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Growth Hormone Re: Iodine and Sleep What is GH? On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:41 AM, REMOC wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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