Re: Exercise Program-Matt Furey

[Guest guest]

Hi

Is anyone familiar with his program? He basically states that weight lifting

is harmful and one should be doing exercises using one's own body weight. He

is martial arts trained. He also recommends sprints, instead of jogging, as he

says it increases metabolism better. He also has an interesting way of

tightening the abdominals -mainly by breathing and isometrics. His methods

are so contrary to the norm that I thought I would ask here if anyone has tried

his techniques.

It is very male based, but it is his orientation.

jafa

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi

>

> Is anyone familiar with his program? He basically states that

weight lifting is harmful and one should be doing exercises using

one's own body weight. He is martial arts trained. He also

recommends sprints, instead of jogging, as he says it increases

metabolism better. He also has an interesting way of tightening the

abdominals -mainly by breathing and isometrics. His methods are so

contrary to the norm that I thought I would ask here if anyone has

tried his techniques.

>

> It is very male based, but it is his orientation.

>

> jafa

I've never heard of it, but it definitely does sound based on the

Martial Arts. I am learning both traditional Kung Fu and Tai Chi

Chuan, and neither reccomend touching weights, and both think it does

more harm than good! It has something to do with functional

muscles...and reps of weights inhibits flexibility and builds up

muscles differently than just using more natural movements and your

own body weight.

They both also emphasize abdominal breathing as well.

Another important point is not exercising till you are gasping for

breath. You should breath slow and focused throughout the entire

exercise, and if you run out of breath that means your lungs have lost

all there lung chi and thats not a good thing. Heavy exercise brings

up toxins as well as creating metabolic toxins so one should

definitely not overdo it or they risk not benefitting much at all due

to overexerting the organs.

It is against the mainstream of most exercise programs in a lot of

ways, but so is Nourishing Traditions, so who will you believe?

-

[Guest guest]

> > Is anyone familiar with his program? He basically states that

> weight lifting is harmful and one should be doing exercises using

> one's own body weight. He is martial arts trained. He also

> recommends sprints, instead of jogging, as he says it increases

> metabolism better. He also has an interesting way of tightening the

> abdominals -mainly by breathing and isometrics. His methods are so

> contrary to the norm that I thought I would ask here if anyone has

> tried his techniques.

> >

> > It is very male based, but it is his orientation.

> >

> > jafa

I honestly haven't read Furey's material but it all depends on what you

want to be strong FOR. The central nervous system only recognizes

resistance, not where the resistance is coming from. could be

bodyweight/gravity, could be an object.

Martial artists for thousands of years have trained with implements for

resistance. It just depends on what strength you want at what ranges of

motion. Also, training for an MA sport is not automatically equal to

training for health or another sport either.

I've heard in more than one place about abdominal strengthening being

more than crunches. There are all kinds of muscles and all kinds of

ways you can train them to " fire. " I bet Furey is responding to the

kind of ab training that gives you cosmetic results in the mirror - the

top muscles - but doesn't do anything about your ability to twist, pull

and push your trunk relative to your legs.

Much better material at Sonnon's RMAX site IMHO if you're interested in

fancy conditioning.

Connie

[Guest guest]

> Connie,

>

> Thanks for the information. I actually like doing the weights I

do. It is uncomplicated and it feels good to do. I lift about 75% of

capacity, so I'm not overdoing it, and only do one set to almost

failure.

> jafa

Oh man in that case check out Tapp's bodyweight programs. The

best for health and tightening up and very woman-knowledgable. She also

has quite a few free " try before you buy " routines. I would go for T-

Tapp over Furey in a heartbeat. Hers also get your heart rate up. She

really has our number in terms of what women want for the bother of

working out.

Connie

[Guest guest]

> Why, in the context of health, should women want anything different

than men 'for the bother of working out'?

I wouldn't presume to " should " on women, myself. Do you think women and

men have the same culture around health and working out?

Connie

[Guest guest]

Mmmm... the right ab exercises will improve appearance because

instead of sloshing out willy nilly, theres some structure under the

fat. The right ab exercises also improve posture, which helps a

lot. I hate abdominals, always have, but if I do them for a week,

it makes a visible difference although my baby belly stays the same.

I just did a series of T-Tapp hoe-downs and my goodness... they're

like dance, only more so, in terms of butt-kickery. Not graceful,

but effective. I can feel each muscle, sort of happy and awake,

which was not true with, say, Tae-Bo, which was just painful.

--- In , Berg <bberg@...>

wrote:

>

> Quoting Christie <christiekeith@...>:

>

> > >> I'm mainly interested in his ab workout, cause crunches and

weights

> > have done nothing for my stomach after having 3 kids. Guess

I'm looking

> > for mainly appearance. <<

> >

> > Remember, though, that there is no such thing as " spot

reducing " ... you

> > can't burn fat in the belly by building up your abdominal

muscles. Fat

> > tends

> > to leave our bodies in the order it went on, which is controlled

not by

> > what

> > exercises you do but by genetics and, IMO, hormones.

>

> Right. The only thing ab exercises will do is make your abdominal

muscles

> stronger, and maybe a bit bigger.

>

> That said, insofar as exercise influences hormones and hormones

influence

> fat distribution, exercise can influence fat distribution. For

example,

> people with insulin resistance tend to store more of their fat in

the

> abdominal area. But, as Christie says, it's not as simple as

the " spot

> reducing " myth suggests. Muscles don't just burn the fat that

covers them.

>

> --

> Berg

> bberg@...

>

[Guest guest]

> Doesn't sound too promising for my stomach,

> as I am very thin, with a beer belly

> type stomach-and I don't drink alcohol.

> Aerobics hasn't helped my stomach, either.

> Just looking into another approach!

>

> jafa

Are you by any chance a short torso person?

Tapp has a good article on the physiology

behind a belly and kids and weakened abdominal muscles.

Also check out her article on " Organs in Place. "

I have no financial interest in Tapp but she has

a physical therapy background and did her master's

on women over 35, exercise, and hormones, and she

really knows her stuff. Her routines are whole-body

and use high overall tension so they are a true muscle workout

not like an ab roller, LOL

She is totally health first.

All her material is for pulling in and re-aligning

what has sagged or drooped from no exercise, too much

desk and driving, all that stuff.

Connie

[Guest guest]

> I'm not sure what culture should have to do with it. Either your

talking about cosmetics (bodybuilding, toning) or you're talking about

health. If the latter, I don't see why it should be a male/female issue.

I think I understand what you're getting at. A transverse ab is a

transverse ab, male or female, is that what you mean? And an exercise

that targets that is good for either gender who wants it?

An example of why it might be different even for health is that the

organs held in by the transverse ab are different, the stresses on the

muscle are different, hence the function will be different, hence the

exercise protocol might be different too.

Connie

[Guest guest]

<christiekeith@...> wrote:

> I have lost over 150 pounds now,

*Congratulations,* Christie!! That's fantastic. Thanks for sharing

your progress along the way. Woohoo for your ab muscle!

[Guest guest]

TT,

Are you saying you are unaware of the differences between the organs

and glands held in the lower abdominal cavities of men and women?

That their pelvises are shaped differently--one narrower, one wider?

It seems unpossible that you have never heard such a thing in all your

schools.

B.

> I'm a visceral manipulation therapist as well as

> CrainoSacral Therapist and Physical therapist and I've

> never hear of such a thing. Pleas would you go into

> more detali or let me know where you recieved this

> info so I may study it myself.

> Thanx,

> TT

>

> " An example of why it might be different even for

> > health is that the

> > organs held in by the transverse ab are different,

> > the stresses on the

> > muscle are different, hence the function will be

> > different, hence the

> > exercise protocol might be different too.

> > Connie "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

> Thanks,

> So you've done this and pilaties? Is is very different

> then mat (no equipment) pilaties?

> TT

I've done both mat Pilates and T-Tapp very briefly and they seem very

different to me. Pilates' goal seems to be long-lean muscle

development. T-Tapp's goal is about restoring tightness and density

in the muscle and correcting misalignments, physical-therapy style.

If I could get a little theoretical and woo-woo...

Pilates, to me, is like old-style isolation exercises where you look

at individual muscles

T-Tapp is new-style, integrated bodymind like the Tensegrity model of

musculature, even though she doesn't use those words. She talks a lot

about how her workouts pay attention to both muscle insertion points.

Biotensegrity:

http://www.biotensegrity.com/paper5.html

Connie

[Guest guest]

> Jafa,

>

> Also look at maternalfitness.com for information about

strengthening

> the transvers (innermost abdominal muscle). I got her book, " Lose

> Your Mummy Tummy " and I think it's working (I had a baby 3 mos.

ago).

> Tupler says a bulging belly post natal is partially due to

diastasis

> (split rectus) and her exercises promise to correct this problem.

She

> contends that most regular ab exercises actually make the bulging

> belly worse unless you repair the diastasis first.

>

> HTH,

>

>

>

> >

> > I'm mainly interested in his ab workout, cause crunches and

weights have

> > done nothing for my stomach after having 3 kids. Guess I'm

looking for

> > mainly appearance.

>

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