Re: U-O-Clear - Shrink Uterine fibroid and Relieve Symptoms?

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>Have anybody in this group used the above medicine?

>If yes, could you contact me to give info about its

>results, side-effects, etc? According to the

>introduction in their website www.MagiHerbs.com,

>

ly, I would say that this website and herbal formulary company is

making scientifically unproven claims about their products and I would

hope those who lurk on this list from the FDA would choose to take a

close look at the site and put it on your lists of companies to check

into. I've already filed a complaint with the FTC Bureau of Consumer

Protection. One of the links below will lead you to how to do this too.

At 44.95/bottle, potential clients need only to purchase 1 bottle each

to make this company quite a bit of money. However, according to

additional content on product pages, 2 bottles is generally recommended

before turning to surgery.

From the site:

" U-O-Clear is a 100% natural herbal formula well proven in China to be

effective to relieve the said symptoms caused by clots or abnormal

growth of Uterus or Ovary tissues. U-O-Clear relieves most symptoms of

cysts/fibroids/endo with no known side effects. "

and yet it also says this:

" Warnings: Do not take U-O-Clear in pregnancy or menstruation. Do not

take U-O-Clear when inflammation, or heavy bleeding, or anemia symptoms

are presented. "

Wouldn't that rule out most women with symptomatic fibroids? And, if it

has no known side effects, why these warnings?

" What is U-O-Clear made of?

There are 19 herbal ingredients in U-O-Clear, they are of 5 major

categories: clots cleansing includes red root salvia, chuanxiong,

safflower, herbaceous peony root, peony bark, peach kernel; water-fluids

removing includes tuckhoe, kelp, Chinese astractylodes, Job's tears;

qi-smoothing includes yanhusuo, nutgrass flatsedge; energy improving

includes dang guei, ox-knee, licorice, cassia, psuedo-ginseng; and

sputum dissolving includes selfheal, oyster shell. These natural herbs

are combined together to supplement the body's ability to clear abnormal

accumulation and growth of body fluids, clots, tissues and cellular

debris, which may form cysts and fibroids. "

" MagiHerbs provides free disease-curing receipts of Chinese herbs, low

cost yet highly effective processed herbs, as well as medical advices,

natural herb news, and herbs-curable-disease information exchange. "

Disease curing?

Who is Magi-Herbs/PCK Technologies, Inc.?

" PCK Technologies, Inc. was founded in 1992 in Houston, Texas, USA. PCK

is specialized in the supply of machinery parts, components, and kits

for steel mills and other heavy industries. "

Hmmm.

How many of Barrett's guidelines for recognizing quackery do you

think this site invokes?

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/quacksell.html

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/spotquack.html

I sincerely despise the fact that women with fibroids are prey to so

many unproven " cures. " There's a huckster on every street corner and

desperate women will try anything and everything to avoid surgery/keep

their uterus. Actually, any disease with an unknown cause, prevention,

or cure makes the patient completely susceptible to abundance in

quackery. Take a close look at the ingredients of U-O-Clear and

research them in-depth, if you have any doubts whatsoever. Then, try to

figure out how to assess the combination of these 19 herbs together

based on what you find. ly, I'd simply like to know how oyster

shell falls under the category of " sputum dissolving " ? (Typically used

for increasing bone density.) And, while self-heal (Prunella vulgaris

L.) is an antioxidant, how does that make it " sputum dissolving " ?

If you sincerely wish to try herbal remedies, please do so under the

auspices of a clinical trial/study at a medical center or with the

guidance of a licensed naturopathic practitioner. If you want to learn

more about the science of alternative remedies and how to avoid being a

victim of a scam, begin here:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/frdheal.htm

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-savvy.html

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/miracle/index.html

and you can search for more info here:

http://nccam.nih.gov/databases.html

Carla Dionne

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>Have anybody in this group used the above medicine?

>If yes, could you contact me to give info about its

>results, side-effects, etc? According to the

>introduction in their website www.MagiHerbs.com,

>

ly, I would say that this website and herbal formulary company is

making scientifically unproven claims about their products and I would

hope those who lurk on this list from the FDA would choose to take a

close look at the site and put it on your lists of companies to check

into. I've already filed a complaint with the FTC Bureau of Consumer

Protection. One of the links below will lead you to how to do this too.

At 44.95/bottle, potential clients need only to purchase 1 bottle each

to make this company quite a bit of money. However, according to

additional content on product pages, 2 bottles is generally recommended

before turning to surgery.

From the site:

" U-O-Clear is a 100% natural herbal formula well proven in China to be

effective to relieve the said symptoms caused by clots or abnormal

growth of Uterus or Ovary tissues. U-O-Clear relieves most symptoms of

cysts/fibroids/endo with no known side effects. "

and yet it also says this:

" Warnings: Do not take U-O-Clear in pregnancy or menstruation. Do not

take U-O-Clear when inflammation, or heavy bleeding, or anemia symptoms

are presented. "

Wouldn't that rule out most women with symptomatic fibroids? And, if it

has no known side effects, why these warnings?

" What is U-O-Clear made of?

There are 19 herbal ingredients in U-O-Clear, they are of 5 major

categories: clots cleansing includes red root salvia, chuanxiong,

safflower, herbaceous peony root, peony bark, peach kernel; water-fluids

removing includes tuckhoe, kelp, Chinese astractylodes, Job's tears;

qi-smoothing includes yanhusuo, nutgrass flatsedge; energy improving

includes dang guei, ox-knee, licorice, cassia, psuedo-ginseng; and

sputum dissolving includes selfheal, oyster shell. These natural herbs

are combined together to supplement the body's ability to clear abnormal

accumulation and growth of body fluids, clots, tissues and cellular

debris, which may form cysts and fibroids. "

" MagiHerbs provides free disease-curing receipts of Chinese herbs, low

cost yet highly effective processed herbs, as well as medical advices,

natural herb news, and herbs-curable-disease information exchange. "

Disease curing?

Who is Magi-Herbs/PCK Technologies, Inc.?

" PCK Technologies, Inc. was founded in 1992 in Houston, Texas, USA. PCK

is specialized in the supply of machinery parts, components, and kits

for steel mills and other heavy industries. "

Hmmm.

How many of Barrett's guidelines for recognizing quackery do you

think this site invokes?

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/quacksell.html

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/spotquack.html

I sincerely despise the fact that women with fibroids are prey to so

many unproven " cures. " There's a huckster on every street corner and

desperate women will try anything and everything to avoid surgery/keep

their uterus. Actually, any disease with an unknown cause, prevention,

or cure makes the patient completely susceptible to abundance in

quackery. Take a close look at the ingredients of U-O-Clear and

research them in-depth, if you have any doubts whatsoever. Then, try to

figure out how to assess the combination of these 19 herbs together

based on what you find. ly, I'd simply like to know how oyster

shell falls under the category of " sputum dissolving " ? (Typically used

for increasing bone density.) And, while self-heal (Prunella vulgaris

L.) is an antioxidant, how does that make it " sputum dissolving " ?

If you sincerely wish to try herbal remedies, please do so under the

auspices of a clinical trial/study at a medical center or with the

guidance of a licensed naturopathic practitioner. If you want to learn

more about the science of alternative remedies and how to avoid being a

victim of a scam, begin here:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/frdheal.htm

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-savvy.html

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/miracle/index.html

and you can search for more info here:

http://nccam.nih.gov/databases.html

Carla Dionne

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>Have anybody in this group used the above medicine?

>If yes, could you contact me to give info about its

>results, side-effects, etc? According to the

>introduction in their website www.MagiHerbs.com,

>

ly, I would say that this website and herbal formulary company is

making scientifically unproven claims about their products and I would

hope those who lurk on this list from the FDA would choose to take a

close look at the site and put it on your lists of companies to check

into. I've already filed a complaint with the FTC Bureau of Consumer

Protection. One of the links below will lead you to how to do this too.

At 44.95/bottle, potential clients need only to purchase 1 bottle each

to make this company quite a bit of money. However, according to

additional content on product pages, 2 bottles is generally recommended

before turning to surgery.

From the site:

" U-O-Clear is a 100% natural herbal formula well proven in China to be

effective to relieve the said symptoms caused by clots or abnormal

growth of Uterus or Ovary tissues. U-O-Clear relieves most symptoms of

cysts/fibroids/endo with no known side effects. "

and yet it also says this:

" Warnings: Do not take U-O-Clear in pregnancy or menstruation. Do not

take U-O-Clear when inflammation, or heavy bleeding, or anemia symptoms

are presented. "

Wouldn't that rule out most women with symptomatic fibroids? And, if it

has no known side effects, why these warnings?

" What is U-O-Clear made of?

There are 19 herbal ingredients in U-O-Clear, they are of 5 major

categories: clots cleansing includes red root salvia, chuanxiong,

safflower, herbaceous peony root, peony bark, peach kernel; water-fluids

removing includes tuckhoe, kelp, Chinese astractylodes, Job's tears;

qi-smoothing includes yanhusuo, nutgrass flatsedge; energy improving

includes dang guei, ox-knee, licorice, cassia, psuedo-ginseng; and

sputum dissolving includes selfheal, oyster shell. These natural herbs

are combined together to supplement the body's ability to clear abnormal

accumulation and growth of body fluids, clots, tissues and cellular

debris, which may form cysts and fibroids. "

" MagiHerbs provides free disease-curing receipts of Chinese herbs, low

cost yet highly effective processed herbs, as well as medical advices,

natural herb news, and herbs-curable-disease information exchange. "

Disease curing?

Who is Magi-Herbs/PCK Technologies, Inc.?

" PCK Technologies, Inc. was founded in 1992 in Houston, Texas, USA. PCK

is specialized in the supply of machinery parts, components, and kits

for steel mills and other heavy industries. "

Hmmm.

How many of Barrett's guidelines for recognizing quackery do you

think this site invokes?

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/quacksell.html

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/spotquack.html

I sincerely despise the fact that women with fibroids are prey to so

many unproven " cures. " There's a huckster on every street corner and

desperate women will try anything and everything to avoid surgery/keep

their uterus. Actually, any disease with an unknown cause, prevention,

or cure makes the patient completely susceptible to abundance in

quackery. Take a close look at the ingredients of U-O-Clear and

research them in-depth, if you have any doubts whatsoever. Then, try to

figure out how to assess the combination of these 19 herbs together

based on what you find. ly, I'd simply like to know how oyster

shell falls under the category of " sputum dissolving " ? (Typically used

for increasing bone density.) And, while self-heal (Prunella vulgaris

L.) is an antioxidant, how does that make it " sputum dissolving " ?

If you sincerely wish to try herbal remedies, please do so under the

auspices of a clinical trial/study at a medical center or with the

guidance of a licensed naturopathic practitioner. If you want to learn

more about the science of alternative remedies and how to avoid being a

victim of a scam, begin here:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/frdheal.htm

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-savvy.html

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/miracle/index.html

and you can search for more info here:

http://nccam.nih.gov/databases.html

Carla Dionne

[Guest guest]

Also all natural:

Poisonous mushrooms, Opium, Belladonna, etc.

> Have anybody in this group used the above medicine?

> If yes, could you contact me to give info about its

> results, side-effects, etc? According to the

> introduction in their website www.MagiHerbs.com,

>

> " U-O-Clear is a 100% natural herbal formula well

> proven in China to be effective to relieve the said

> symptoms caused by clots or abnormal growth of Uterus

> or Ovary tissues. U-O-Clear relieves most symptoms of

> cysts/fibroids/endo with no known side effects. It

> works on the principle to supplement the body's

> cleaning function for the clots and sputum-fluids of

> female organs, especially for uterus and ovary, so

> that the growth of bad tissues could be stopped or

> reversed. Of course, U-O-Clear works best when little

> symptoms have been felt. If the tumors become too big,

> and symptoms remain after 2 bottles of U-O-Clear, you

> may need an operation or other medications, then take

> U-O-Clear also help to prevent symptoms happen again.

> Usually after taking U-O-Clear for only a few days,

> the symptoms are much relieved or gone, and then you

> could stop taking U-O-Clear, or only take it when any

> slight symptom comes back again, or use it as a

> nutritional supplement to ensure healthy organs. "

>

> I am thinking of give it a try before pursuing more

> invasive procedures. At the same time, I will contact

> them to get the names of the doctors under whom the

> patients took this medicine. Hopefully I will be able

> to speak to one/some of these doctors before taking

> this medicine. Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Also all natural:

Poisonous mushrooms, Opium, Belladonna, etc.

> Have anybody in this group used the above medicine?

> If yes, could you contact me to give info about its

> results, side-effects, etc? According to the

> introduction in their website www.MagiHerbs.com,

>

> " U-O-Clear is a 100% natural herbal formula well

> proven in China to be effective to relieve the said

> symptoms caused by clots or abnormal growth of Uterus

> or Ovary tissues. U-O-Clear relieves most symptoms of

> cysts/fibroids/endo with no known side effects. It

> works on the principle to supplement the body's

> cleaning function for the clots and sputum-fluids of

> female organs, especially for uterus and ovary, so

> that the growth of bad tissues could be stopped or

> reversed. Of course, U-O-Clear works best when little

> symptoms have been felt. If the tumors become too big,

> and symptoms remain after 2 bottles of U-O-Clear, you

> may need an operation or other medications, then take

> U-O-Clear also help to prevent symptoms happen again.

> Usually after taking U-O-Clear for only a few days,

> the symptoms are much relieved or gone, and then you

> could stop taking U-O-Clear, or only take it when any

> slight symptom comes back again, or use it as a

> nutritional supplement to ensure healthy organs. "

>

> I am thinking of give it a try before pursuing more

> invasive procedures. At the same time, I will contact

> them to get the names of the doctors under whom the

> patients took this medicine. Hopefully I will be able

> to speak to one/some of these doctors before taking

> this medicine. Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Carla,

Thank you for the informative, thorough research! I had a feeling

that this herbal remedy is too good to be true, but I felt I should

ask anyway. You see, I am one of those women who are desparately

trying to avoid surgery. However, I do realize that myo/uae are out

there for a reason.

From my own recent research, I found out that Hys is the number 1

treatment for fibroids in China. So, if U-O-Clear is so great, why

don't more Chinese use it?

[Guest guest]

You said that hys. is the no. 1 treatment for fibroids in

China. Do you have a reference for this? I too am trying

to avoid surgery and am considering going to an MD (female

and experienced) who uses Chinese medicine and once weekly

acupuncture. Of course I will have to pay for all of this.

That's why I wanted a reference for me to take to her as I

ask questions about the effectiveness of this approach.

Thanks.

Re: U-O-Clear - Shrink Uterine

fibroid and Relieve Symptoms?

| Carla,

|

| Thank you for the informative, thorough research! I had a

feeling

| that this herbal remedy is too good to be true, but I felt

I should

| ask anyway. You see, I am one of those women who are

desparately

| trying to avoid surgery. However, I do realize that

myo/uae are out

| there for a reason.

|

| From my own recent research, I found out that Hys is the

number 1

| treatment for fibroids in China. So, if U-O-Clear is so

great, why

| don't more Chinese use it?

|

|

|

|

|

[Guest guest]

: " itt83ls " wrote: " From my own recent research, I found out that Hys is the

number 1

treatment for fibroids in China. "

I haven't done any research on that subject, but there is a bit of relevant

information I've come across in my readings.

Although I gather acupuncture is widely accepted in China, I don't know how

great a division there is generally between the practitioners of Traditional

Chinese Medicine and of modern " Western " medicine. It may be that the

statistics you have found only cover the modern medical system. TCM

practitioners say (a number of sources) that they have herbal treatments

which are effective for SMALL fibroids only. The size limit usually given as

about 3.5 cm. I read one message from a woman who was told by a Chinese TCM

doctor that " In China we don't allow fibroids to get this large. "

So what of the women whose fibroids did get large, the ones who had

hysterectomies - did they not get appropriate herbal treatment - or was

treatment unsuccessful - or were their fibroids too large by the time they

knew they had them? (I had a grapefruit sized tumour and others before I

knew anything was wrong with me)

China is the only other country besides the US in which I heard of research

into Mifepristone for shrinking fibroids. In fact, I think it was the first

country to have trials of the drug as a fibroid treatment (?). (More

evidence that the Chinese don't rely on TCM)

I went to a Chinese herbalist when my fibroids were first discovered. He

didn't know what fibroids were. He told me I had a benign tumour. I told him

it was in my uterus. He still wasn't very clear on the subject and said he

would have to check with his tutor in a neighbouring town. Then I went to a

member of the (UK-based) National Institute of Medical Herbalists. He did

know what fibroids were, claimed to have successfully treated a couple of

women but warned me that my large fibroids were probably too well

established and thriving to be much affected by the herbs. I believe the

herbs I received were similar to those a Chinese herbalist would prescribe

and they did include a few that are on the U-O-Clear list. I lost quite a

bit of weight, felt healthy, stopped having extra days of spotting beyond a

normal 5 day menstrual period. But my fibroids continued to grow over the

following months.

I have spoken on the phone with one woman who says she got very good results

from treatment with a Chinese herbalist in London. Our fibroid and other

characteristics vary. I had some herbs that would not be suitable for a

woman who unlike me had very heavy, crampy menstrual periods. Whatever type

of medication you get, the prescription needs to be adjusted to suit you

personally, so these all-in-one bottle mail order elixirs are unlikely to be

of benefit.