Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hi Janie, I have irregular heartbeat and did ok with the chemo. What do your other drs say? How will your diabetes react to the chemo/radiation? Noone can tell you what to do. Its an individual decision only you can make. You are in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at: http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html also check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at: http://www.cancerclub.com Whether or not to have chemo > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > I had a mastectomy.) > > RADIATION: > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > given the other clean pathology. > > CHEMO ONLY: > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > like Taxol.) > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > are not easy to figure out. > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > ???A querie??? > Luv, > Janie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hi Janie, I have irregular heartbeat and did ok with the chemo. What do your other drs say? How will your diabetes react to the chemo/radiation? Noone can tell you what to do. Its an individual decision only you can make. You are in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at: http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html also check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at: http://www.cancerclub.com Whether or not to have chemo > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > I had a mastectomy.) > > RADIATION: > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > given the other clean pathology. > > CHEMO ONLY: > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > like Taxol.) > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > are not easy to figure out. > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > ???A querie??? > Luv, > Janie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hi Janie, I have irregular heartbeat and did ok with the chemo. What do your other drs say? How will your diabetes react to the chemo/radiation? Noone can tell you what to do. Its an individual decision only you can make. You are in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html Check out my breast cancer ornaments at: http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html also check out my other ornaments and lots of nice gifts at: http://www.cancerclub.com Whether or not to have chemo > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > I had a mastectomy.) > > RADIATION: > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > given the other clean pathology. > > CHEMO ONLY: > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > like Taxol.) > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > are not easy to figure out. > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > ???A querie??? > Luv, > Janie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 As a 5 1/2 year survivor who did not have the option of chemo but the option of rads without a mastectomy and nothing with a mastectomy, I took the good odds which were with the mast. and went that road. However, if they had told me the odds of having chemo plus the mastectomy, I would probably have had the chemo. I wanted to give myself the best odds I could. I know and I think we all know that the stats are just numbers but when faced with a decision, I always try to take the one that shows the best odds for me. Did that make sense??? Anyway, no matter what we tell you, the bottom line is you must make this decision for yourself since it is your life, your body. If you are married, I would also take into consideration what my spouse thinks. > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > I had a mastectomy.) > > RADIATION: > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > given the other clean pathology. > > CHEMO ONLY: > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > like Taxol.) > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > are not easy to figure out. > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > ???A querie??? > Luv, > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Could you share why you did not have the option of chemo? Did you take tamoxifin or any other medicine? Also, was it a very clean surgery with perhaps wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion? Do you remember the stage and grade of tumor? If you can tell me, Thanks a lot, Janie > > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > > I had a mastectomy.) > > > > RADIATION: > > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > > given the other clean pathology. > > > > CHEMO ONLY: > > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > > like Taxol.) > > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > > are not easy to figure out. > > > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > > > ???A querie??? > > Luv, > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Could you share why you did not have the option of chemo? Did you take tamoxifin or any other medicine? Also, was it a very clean surgery with perhaps wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion? Do you remember the stage and grade of tumor? If you can tell me, Thanks a lot, Janie > > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > > I had a mastectomy.) > > > > RADIATION: > > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > > given the other clean pathology. > > > > CHEMO ONLY: > > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > > like Taxol.) > > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > > are not easy to figure out. > > > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > > > ???A querie??? > > Luv, > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Could you share why you did not have the option of chemo? Did you take tamoxifin or any other medicine? Also, was it a very clean surgery with perhaps wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion? Do you remember the stage and grade of tumor? If you can tell me, Thanks a lot, Janie > > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo oncology. > > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats were > > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed by > > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular invasion > > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both because > > I had a mastectomy.) > > > > RADIATION: > > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. Aggressive > > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > > given the other clean pathology. > > > > CHEMO ONLY: > > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > > like Taxol.) > > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no relapse). > > > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You can > > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as inflammatory, > > are not easy to figure out. > > > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't in > > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > > > ???A querie??? > > Luv, > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Also i forgot to metion i have many other health problems and this helped with my choice. Cheers and hugs, in NewZealand. > > I have now had both consultations with radiation and chemo > oncology. > > They went very nicely. The following recommendations and stats > were > > given to me, having had a 2.4cm, Stage 2A, Grade 3 tumor removed > by > > mastectomy with clean, wide margins, no nodes, no vascular > invasion > > (no cancer in breast blood vessels). It goes like this: > > > > IF NO FURTHER TREATMENT: > > 80% chance of 10-year survival. > > 60% chance of 10-year survival with no relapse. > > (These are NOT rounded-off numbers, and 8% was added to both > because > > I had a mastectomy.) > > > > RADIATION: > > Not indicated for me because of stage and clean margins. > Aggressive > > grade of tumor is not an indicator of need for radiation therapy > > given the other clean pathology. > > > > CHEMO ONLY: > > A/C in 4 cycles, 3 weeks apart, recommended. (Nothing additional > > like Taxol.) > > 2% increase in 10-year survival (= 82% survival). > > 6% increase in 10-year survival with no recurrence (=66% no > relapse). > > > > TAMOXIFIN ONLY (FOR FIVE YEARS): > > 6% increase in 10-year survival (=86% survival). > > 14% increase in 10-year surival with no relapse (=74% no relapse). > > > > COMBINED CHEMO & TAMOXIFIN: > > 8% increase in 10-year survival (=88% survival). > > 20% increase in 10-year survival with no relapse (=80% no relapse). > > > > The oncologist got these stats from www.adjuvantonline.com. You > can > > try it but you have to pretend to be a doctor to figure your own > > stats. Also, more complicated breast cancers, such as > inflammatory, > > are not easy to figure out. > > > > My Question: WOULD YOU HAVE THE CHEMO if you thought you weren't > in > > the best of health (hypertension, heart arrythmias, diabetes II)? > > the doctor was soft on it, but just showed me the stats. > > > > ???A querie??? > > Luv, > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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