Report on Doc Milton Visit via Phone

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I had a phone appointment w/ Dr. Milton concerning my daughter Kate. I had told ya'll I'd keep you posted about his protocol for us. So here goes. She had seen him on the 16th of August when she accompanied me on my first visit to him. He did a simple muscle test where he tests the reflexes. After being thumped, the muscle contracts. The speed with which it returns to normal tells him if there are thyroid issues and to what extent. (If ya'll want more detail on this, let me know) He said hers was about 15 to 20 percent normal. He then had blood drawn for testing and suggested I start her on the DSF Herbal.

BTW, he does calculate the labs results as a percentage as I thought. This makes it easy to compare results from lab to lab and also from one test to another b/c everything is on the same scale. If you want me to explain how to do this, I will be glad to post it again.

He has her complete labs and is sending them in the mail. I am anxious to see what her frees are, but these are the things he was concerned about today.

Antibiodies: All negative

Other Blood work:

Result

Range

TSH

2.65

0.36

-

2.5

107%

T4

5.6

4.5

-

12

15%

T3

182

85

-

205

81%

RT3

169

90

-

350

30%

He interpreted them as such (This is my notes almost verbatim from him. I am so excited about being able to go to him as he explains everything so well, that I almost had no questions when he asked for them.):

First we look for antibiodies. Both Kates TPO and antithyroglobulin were negative so she does not have an autoimmune disease. Next we look for production, conversion or reception problems.. The higher the TSH the more the pituitary thinks there is a problem. A high TSH indicates a production problem. Now we compare the T4 to the T3. We want the T4 to be lower and to have a difference of only about 10 percentage points. Kates T4 is lower, but the difference is 66 points. The low T4 indicates there is a production problem of which some component is iodine deficiency.

If the T3 had been low and the T4 high, a conversion problem would be indicated.

If both had been high, it would have indicated a reception problem.

Back to Kate, even given enough iodine, the thyroid may still not make enough and Kate may still need Armour. We will start with Iodiral (sp?) (sounds like i-o-dir-al ) tablets, two per day for one month then one per day for one month then do more blood work to see if we should go up, down or stay the same.

Next we look at adrenals. To do this, we compare the RT3 to the T4. We like the RT3 to be about 20 points less than the T4. Kates is 15 points higher. For this, we supplement with adrenal support. Doc Milton recomends DSF Herbal which he had already began about two weeks ago when he first saw her. I had also started her on Isocort about two or three months ago. He said to continue both.

That is basically it for now. I do not know how the protocol would be different if there had been a low T3 and high T4 or if both had been high indicating a conversion or reception problem. I am not making any claims that this protocol would be applicable for all others with similar lab results. There may have been other things he was looking at. This is just what he said about Kate. But I thought it would give us fodder to chew on, so to speak.

Again, I will give some more detail on the muscle testing and the percentage formula if anyone wants it.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a step in the right direction. I wish I could have my

own Dr. Milton. Where are you located? I'm in California.

Irene

>

> Hi all,

> I had a phone appointment w/ Dr. Milton concerning my daughter

Kate. I

> had told ya'll I'd keep you posted about his protocol for us. So

here

> goes. She had seen him on the 16th of August when she accompanied

me on

> my first visit to him. He did a simple muscle test where he tests

the

> reflexes. After being thumped, the muscle contracts. The speed

with

> which it returns to normal tells him if there are thyroid issues

and to

> what extent. (If ya'll want more detail on this, let me know) He

said

> hers was about 15 to 20 percent normal. He then had blood drawn for

> testing and suggested I start her on the DSF Herbal.

>

> BTW, he does calculate the labs results as a percentage as I

thought.

> This makes it easy to compare results from lab to lab and also from

one

> test to another b/c everything is on the same scale. If you want

me to

> explain how to do this, I will be glad to post it again.

>

> He has her complete labs and is sending them in the mail. I am

anxious

> to see what her frees are, but these are the things he was concerned

> about today.

>

> Antibiodies: All negative

> Other Blood work:

> Result Range

> TSH 2.65 0.36 - 2.5 107%

> T4 5.6 4.5 - 12 15%

> T3 182 85 - 205 81%

> RT3 169 90 - 350 30%

>

> He interpreted them as such (This is my notes almost verbatim from

him.

> I am so excited about being able to go to him as he explains

everything

> so well, that I almost had no questions when he asked for them.):

>

> First we look for antibiodies. Both Kates TPO and

antithyroglobulin

> were negative so she does not have an autoimmune disease. Next we

look

> for production, conversion or reception problems.. The higher the

TSH

> the more the pituitary thinks there is a problem. A high TSH

indicates

> a production problem. Now we compare the T4 to the T3. We want

the T4

> to be lower and to have a difference of only about 10 percentage

points.

> Kates T4 is lower, but the difference is 66 points. The low T4

> indicates there is a production problem of which some component is

> iodine deficiency.

>

> If the T3 had been low and the T4 high, a conversion problem would

be

> indicated.

>

> If both had been high, it would have indicated a reception problem.

>

> Back to Kate, even given enough iodine, the thyroid may still not

make

> enough and Kate may still need Armour. We will start with Iodiral

(sp?)

> (sounds like i-o-dir-al ) tablets, two per day for one month then

one

> per day for one month then do more blood work to see if we should

go up,

> down or stay the same.

>

> Next we look at adrenals. To do this, we compare the RT3 to the

T4. We

> like the RT3 to be about 20 points less than the T4. Kates is 15

points

> higher. For this, we supplement with adrenal support. Doc Milton

> recomends DSF Herbal which he had already began about two weeks ago

when

> he first saw her. I had also started her on Isocort about two or

three

> months ago. He said to continue both.

>

> That is basically it for now. I do not know how the protocol would

be

> different if there had been a low T3 and high T4 or if both had been

> high indicating a conversion or reception problem. I am not making

any

> claims that this protocol would be applicable for all others with

> similar lab results. There may have been other things he was

looking

> at. This is just what he said about Kate. But I thought it would

give

> us fodder to chew on, so to speak.

>

> Again, I will give some more detail on the muscle testing and the

> percentage formula if anyone wants it.

>

> Blessings,

> Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a step in the right direction. I wish I could have my

own Dr. Milton. Where are you located? I'm in California.

Irene

>

> Hi all,

> I had a phone appointment w/ Dr. Milton concerning my daughter

Kate. I

> had told ya'll I'd keep you posted about his protocol for us. So

here

> goes. She had seen him on the 16th of August when she accompanied

me on

> my first visit to him. He did a simple muscle test where he tests

the

> reflexes. After being thumped, the muscle contracts. The speed

with

> which it returns to normal tells him if there are thyroid issues

and to

> what extent. (If ya'll want more detail on this, let me know) He

said

> hers was about 15 to 20 percent normal. He then had blood drawn for

> testing and suggested I start her on the DSF Herbal.

>

> BTW, he does calculate the labs results as a percentage as I

thought.

> This makes it easy to compare results from lab to lab and also from

one

> test to another b/c everything is on the same scale. If you want

me to

> explain how to do this, I will be glad to post it again.

>

> He has her complete labs and is sending them in the mail. I am

anxious

> to see what her frees are, but these are the things he was concerned

> about today.

>

> Antibiodies: All negative

> Other Blood work:

> Result Range

> TSH 2.65 0.36 - 2.5 107%

> T4 5.6 4.5 - 12 15%

> T3 182 85 - 205 81%

> RT3 169 90 - 350 30%

>

> He interpreted them as such (This is my notes almost verbatim from

him.

> I am so excited about being able to go to him as he explains

everything

> so well, that I almost had no questions when he asked for them.):

>

> First we look for antibiodies. Both Kates TPO and

antithyroglobulin

> were negative so she does not have an autoimmune disease. Next we

look

> for production, conversion or reception problems.. The higher the

TSH

> the more the pituitary thinks there is a problem. A high TSH

indicates

> a production problem. Now we compare the T4 to the T3. We want

the T4

> to be lower and to have a difference of only about 10 percentage

points.

> Kates T4 is lower, but the difference is 66 points. The low T4

> indicates there is a production problem of which some component is

> iodine deficiency.

>

> If the T3 had been low and the T4 high, a conversion problem would

be

> indicated.

>

> If both had been high, it would have indicated a reception problem.

>

> Back to Kate, even given enough iodine, the thyroid may still not

make

> enough and Kate may still need Armour. We will start with Iodiral

(sp?)

> (sounds like i-o-dir-al ) tablets, two per day for one month then

one

> per day for one month then do more blood work to see if we should

go up,

> down or stay the same.

>

> Next we look at adrenals. To do this, we compare the RT3 to the

T4. We

> like the RT3 to be about 20 points less than the T4. Kates is 15

points

> higher. For this, we supplement with adrenal support. Doc Milton

> recomends DSF Herbal which he had already began about two weeks ago

when

> he first saw her. I had also started her on Isocort about two or

three

> months ago. He said to continue both.

>

> That is basically it for now. I do not know how the protocol would

be

> different if there had been a low T3 and high T4 or if both had been

> high indicating a conversion or reception problem. I am not making

any

> claims that this protocol would be applicable for all others with

> similar lab results. There may have been other things he was

looking

> at. This is just what he said about Kate. But I thought it would

give

> us fodder to chew on, so to speak.

>

> Again, I will give some more detail on the muscle testing and the

> percentage formula if anyone wants it.

>

> Blessings,

> Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a step in the right direction. I wish I could have my

own Dr. Milton. Where are you located? I'm in California.

Irene

>

> Hi all,

> I had a phone appointment w/ Dr. Milton concerning my daughter

Kate. I

> had told ya'll I'd keep you posted about his protocol for us. So

here

> goes. She had seen him on the 16th of August when she accompanied

me on

> my first visit to him. He did a simple muscle test where he tests

the

> reflexes. After being thumped, the muscle contracts. The speed

with

> which it returns to normal tells him if there are thyroid issues

and to

> what extent. (If ya'll want more detail on this, let me know) He

said

> hers was about 15 to 20 percent normal. He then had blood drawn for

> testing and suggested I start her on the DSF Herbal.

>

> BTW, he does calculate the labs results as a percentage as I

thought.

> This makes it easy to compare results from lab to lab and also from

one

> test to another b/c everything is on the same scale. If you want

me to

> explain how to do this, I will be glad to post it again.

>

> He has her complete labs and is sending them in the mail. I am

anxious

> to see what her frees are, but these are the things he was concerned

> about today.

>

> Antibiodies: All negative

> Other Blood work:

> Result Range

> TSH 2.65 0.36 - 2.5 107%

> T4 5.6 4.5 - 12 15%

> T3 182 85 - 205 81%

> RT3 169 90 - 350 30%

>

> He interpreted them as such (This is my notes almost verbatim from

him.

> I am so excited about being able to go to him as he explains

everything

> so well, that I almost had no questions when he asked for them.):

>

> First we look for antibiodies. Both Kates TPO and

antithyroglobulin

> were negative so she does not have an autoimmune disease. Next we

look

> for production, conversion or reception problems.. The higher the

TSH

> the more the pituitary thinks there is a problem. A high TSH

indicates

> a production problem. Now we compare the T4 to the T3. We want

the T4

> to be lower and to have a difference of only about 10 percentage

points.

> Kates T4 is lower, but the difference is 66 points. The low T4

> indicates there is a production problem of which some component is

> iodine deficiency.

>

> If the T3 had been low and the T4 high, a conversion problem would

be

> indicated.

>

> If both had been high, it would have indicated a reception problem.

>

> Back to Kate, even given enough iodine, the thyroid may still not

make

> enough and Kate may still need Armour. We will start with Iodiral

(sp?)

> (sounds like i-o-dir-al ) tablets, two per day for one month then

one

> per day for one month then do more blood work to see if we should

go up,

> down or stay the same.

>

> Next we look at adrenals. To do this, we compare the RT3 to the

T4. We

> like the RT3 to be about 20 points less than the T4. Kates is 15

points

> higher. For this, we supplement with adrenal support. Doc Milton

> recomends DSF Herbal which he had already began about two weeks ago

when

> he first saw her. I had also started her on Isocort about two or

three

> months ago. He said to continue both.

>

> That is basically it for now. I do not know how the protocol would

be

> different if there had been a low T3 and high T4 or if both had been

> high indicating a conversion or reception problem. I am not making

any

> claims that this protocol would be applicable for all others with

> similar lab results. There may have been other things he was

looking

> at. This is just what he said about Kate. But I thought it would

give

> us fodder to chew on, so to speak.

>

> Again, I will give some more detail on the muscle testing and the

> percentage formula if anyone wants it.

>

> Blessings,

> Debbie K.