Re: coconut oil, stevia and cinnamon

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" ...Coconut oil is high in salicylates, which many people are sensitive too,

and stevia has some questionable side effects in animals like depressing

testosterone, and cinnamon is full of a variety of foreign chemicals that

could theoretically produce adverse effects in some people. "

i find the above statement disturbing... i take all of them...is there

anything that IS safe? *sigh*

diana

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[Guest guest]

plants evolve toxic defences to stop things eating them. and we

evolve defences against the toxins - that's what the liver does.

that's a usual situation, not unusual. unless you have a specific

allergy or intolerance, the amount that you need to worry about these

natural foodstuffs, consumed in ordinary amounts, is negligible

compared to the risks from manmade toxins in food like trans-fats.

stick with them and enjoy!

--- In , " diana gia " <babygirl.di@...>

wrote:

>

> " ...Coconut oil is high in salicylates, which many people are

sensitive too,

> and stevia has some questionable side effects in animals like depressing

> testosterone, and cinnamon is full of a variety of foreign chemicals

that

> could theoretically produce adverse effects in some people. "

>

> i find the above statement disturbing... i take all of them...is there

> anything that IS safe? *sigh*

>

> diana

>

>

> --

> love is all there is...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

> " ...Coconut oil is high in salicylates, which many people are sensitive too,

> and stevia has some questionable side effects in animals like depressing

> testosterone, and cinnamon is full of a variety of foreign chemicals that

> could theoretically produce adverse effects in some people. "

>

> i find the above statement disturbing... i take all of them...is there

> anything that IS safe? *sigh*

No, there isn't a single thing on the face of the earth that is safe

for everyone. So relax. :-)

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I like the phrase, " all things in moderation " .

Allyn

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Subject: Re: Re: coconut oil, stevia and cinnamon

,

> " ...Coconut oil is high in salicylates, which many people are sensitive

too,

> and stevia has some questionable side effects in animals like depressing

> testosterone, and cinnamon is full of a variety of foreign chemicals that

> could theoretically produce adverse effects in some people. "

>

> i find the above statement disturbing... i take all of them...is there

> anything that IS safe? *sigh*

No, there isn't a single thing on the face of the earth that is safe

for everyone. So relax. :-)

Chris

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Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

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[Guest guest]

Allyn,

> Yes, I like the phrase, " all things in moderation " .

That's not really what I meant. Some people can't tolerate moderate

amounts of certain things, and, although I agree with you in the sense

that most people can tolerate most things in moderation, what I was

trying to say was that virtually any given thing has some group of

people who don't tolerate it well, so one cannot fear everything that

isn't tolerated by some group of people or there will be nothing to

eat. At the same time, if you have a health problem that you can't

get to the bottom of, you may need to consider removing certain things

from your diet or limiting them with more strict moderation than the

typical person would consider to be moderate.

As to the general virtue of moderation, I find it interesting that

mice who perpetually alternate fasting one day with eating twice as

much food as normal the other day live longer (two extremes), have

lower rates of cancer and have protection from excitotoxic injury to

the nervous system compared to mice who eat moderate amounts of food

every day.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

>

>>

> As to the general virtue of moderation, I find it interesting that

> mice who perpetually alternate fasting one day with eating twice as

> much food as normal the other day live longer (two extremes), have

> lower rates of cancer and have protection from excitotoxic injury

>to

> the nervous system compared to mice who eat moderate amounts of

>food

> every day.

>

I love that idea, think of the time saved not having to make meals

and eat every other day! Just one problem, how do people actually

go for a day with out eating - and still be able to keep your mind

on work, etc with out fighting with your stomach about how empty it

is? Or, am I the only one who actually gets hunger Pains?

I suppose I could just be 'weak', but then I had a home-birth and I

don't think I could call that any where near pain-free!

~Jan

[Guest guest]

--- Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> No, there isn't a single thing on the face of the earth that is safe

> for everyone. So relax. :-)

Yes, even water can kill you. Too much or too little.

Read about that nasty DHMO here:

http://www.dhmo.org/

[Guest guest]

I'd like to see who did the research against stevia. If you get a

chance to see " Sweet Remedy " they have a whole segment about when

Monsanto owned Nutrasweet and was trying to keep stevia from being

accepted as a sweetener because of the competition it would have

caused for their product (which has known excitotoxic effects!).

They are the reason that stevia cannot be marketed as a sweeter and

must be sold as a " health supplement " ! I'd bet that they are the

ones who did the study against stevia. They're very good at

making " research " come out with the results they want.

>

> " ...Coconut oil is high in salicylates, which many people are

sensitive too,

> and stevia has some questionable side effects in animals like

depressing

> testosterone, and cinnamon is full of a variety of foreign

chemicals that

> could theoretically produce adverse effects in some people. "

>

> i find the above statement disturbing... i take all of them...is

there

> anything that IS safe? *sigh*

>

> diana

>

>

> --

> love is all there is...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Renate,

> I'd like to see who did the research against stevia. If you get a

> chance to see " Sweet Remedy " they have a whole segment about when

> Monsanto owned Nutrasweet and was trying to keep stevia from being

> accepted as a sweetener because of the competition it would have

> caused for their product (which has known excitotoxic effects!).

> They are the reason that stevia cannot be marketed as a sweeter and

> must be sold as a " health supplement " ! I'd bet that they are the

> ones who did the study against stevia. They're very good at

> making " research " come out with the results they want.

While I consider it much more likely that the stevia research was a

conspiracy than the excitotoxin research because I, like everyone

else, hate Monsanto, I don't think it would hurt the few people

getting tired after raw egg shakes to try raw eggs alone and to

consider the possibility that one of the other components in the

shake, including the stevia, could be the problem.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Jan wrote:

Just one problem, how do people actually

> go for a day with out eating - and still be able to keep your mind

> on work, etc with out fighting with your stomach about how empty it

> is? Or, am I the only one who actually gets hunger Pains?

>

> I suppose I could just be 'weak', but then I had a home-birth and I

> don't think I could call that any where near pain-free!

>

> ~Jan

>

Hi Jan,

In my experience, if you're used to eating at specific times of day,

your stomach releases acid at those times and creates that sick, empty

feeling of " hunger " . It will usually pass with time, or after drinking

mineral water or a bit of baking soda mixed with water.

My other guess is that it could have something to do with a blood

sugar/insulin imbalance, although that's my layperson's opinion, not

scientific/medical proof, I've never measured my blood sugar/insulin.

-Kyra

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Just one problem, how do people actually

> > go for a day with out eating - and still be able to keep your

>mind

> > on work, etc with out fighting with your stomach about how empty

>it

> > is? Or, am I the only one who actually gets hunger Pains?

> >

>>> Hi Jan,

>>> In my experience, if you're used to eating at specific times of

>>>day,

>>> your stomach releases acid at those times and creates that sick,

>>>empty

>>> feeling of " hunger " . It will usually pass with time, or after

>>>drinking

>>> mineral water or a bit of baking soda mixed with water.

>>> My other guess is that it could have something to do with a blood

>>> sugar/insulin imbalance, although that's my layperson's opinion,

>>>not

> >>scientific/medical proof, I've never measured my blood

>>>sugar/insulin.

>

>>> -Kyra

>

Kyra, I've always had widely different meal times (for better or

worse )so I don't think it's that, but I think there is something

to the sugar issue. I notice if I stay away from complex carbs (I

already stay away from sugars, I really have that roller coaster

effect from them), like grains, potatoes and rice, I am able to go

for much longer times without feeling like I'm starving - which I'm

of course NOT, but just feel like it. Anything will do at those

times, I don't crave a certain item -like carbs- I think when I do

reach for carbs, it's just because it's fast. Of course then the

cycle starts again, so I found I have to be very careful in making

time to choose high fat, protien with veggies to go longer times

between eating.

~Jan