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Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a second opinion. So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent health from it. Thank you so much. JoyPlease visit..Thanks! www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

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Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a second opinion. So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent health from it. Thank you so much. JoyPlease visit..Thanks! www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

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Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a second opinion. So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent health from it. Thank you so much. JoyPlease visit..Thanks! www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

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Hi Joy,

My story is pretty common in many ways. About 13 or 14 years ago I

noticed I was sob. I was working full time and was pretty active but

I noticed it was getting difficult to take those long walks, go out

dancing, etc. I had read that sometimes women who had asthma as

children and then outgrew it would be revisited by it during (peri)

or menopause. Sounded good to me and since I didn't have a Dr. I

bought an over the counter inhaler and moved on. I also thought it

was just me getting older and not being in as good of shape.

One night I met some friends for drinks and dinner and since I had 2

drinks I asked someone to take me home. The next morning I got up

and decided it was so nice I would just walk (2.5 mi) to the

restaurant and get the car. I was so sob, and weak and seriously

afraid I wouldn't get there. I did and I immediately went to the

nearest " doc in a box " . She said she didn't think it was asthma but

there was some wheezing she thought it was bronchitis and gave me an

antibiotic and prednisone. About a week into the prednisone I was

feeling good! Those steps were " nothing " , I was thinking I was

in " high cotton " . Then there was the pred taper and three weeks later

I'm in the hospital with a fever and sats well below 90. My first dx

was Legionnaire's disease, then pneumocystis, after 2 days I was sent

to ICU. A new doctor had been called in, he suggested ARDS, prepared

me for intubation and increased both prednisone and antibiotic. I

started recovering within 24 hours without the vent, was kept there

for another 2 days and then sent to a regular room. There was still

no clear dx but heart failure was mentioned. I was there for 3

weeks, they wouldn't let me go until my sats were up and I could walk

and still keep them up. I went home to my second floor apartment on

oxygen.

I struggled to keep working but I would have to stop half way down

the stairs, going up or down, to rest. Three weeks later I was back

to a new Dr.'s office, crackling, wheezing and very sob. She said off

you go to the hospital. Different hospital, too. Lots more tests,

cts, x-rays, pfts, bal and finally a vat. After 2 weeks I was able

to go home, back on O2 and still no dx. I was referred to a pulmo,

he actually took care of me in the hospital. After reviewing the

results of the bal and vats he could find nothing, while the xray &

ct showed the honeycombing the bal and vat did not show IPF or UIP as

I think this specific is known as now. It did show an exposure to

aspergillius but nothing was active. It was noted that the lung

biopsy made have been taken from a place where the IPF wasn't active.

From that point on the dx was HP. I was up and down on prednisone

like a yo-yo. I was told that with HP once they found out what it

was they could fix it. No one ever found out. My doc said the

symptoms I was reporting were not consistent with the other tests.

I'm still trying to keep my job but finally had to start the process

for disability. This process from first hospital to HP dx took

around a year.

I decided it was time to see someone else. I got a referral to

Virginal Mason and one of the top docs in the pulmonary dept. I went

in told him my story and basically went through the same things,

tests, everything but the vats. Up and down on pred, on and off O2.

Finally he made the same statement about symptoms did not match tests

results. I remember that day so well, I parked across the street in

a parking garage, no handicapped placard. I could barely make it

across the street. I rested once or twice against the building

feeling like I was about to lose consciousness. Feeling embarrassed

and ashamed. When I told him how difficult it was for me to walk

over he sent me down for pft while exercising. I didn't make it 3

minutes before they dropped below 85. He was amazed, so then again

we tested for other autoimmune diseases. He consulted with the whole

pulmonary department, I met with different docs who had questions

about environment and the most common agents that cause hp. One

doctor said perhaps something had set off my immune system and even

though I wasn't exposed to it now my body hadn't recognized that and

the inflammation continued. This was year 2+. It was also the first

time PF was uttered as well as chronic and progressive. Prednisone

up and down, up and down. Tried Imuran, made me sick, discussed

cytoxin but he felt I was too young that it can actually cause PF and

cancer. By now I have gained a great deal of weight, 100 lbs, I am

perimenopausal but the pred had an effect on my periods (doc said it

was the first time he'd heard of that!), I couldn't sleep, emotional

roller coaster, losing my hair, etc. I'm not getting better and it

seems that I should look for someone closer to home. Somewhere in

here I decided I better start my own research. The dx is now ILD

w/secondary PF.

Because of insurance I had to change docs. By now I just want

somebody for " maintenance " . There is no more tissue left to test,

and just about every test imaginable had been done. I found a local

pulm and she had been my doc since then. She wasn't involved in

the " what is it part? " but has certainly been the side effects doc.

She got me to rehab and that started the weight loss plus she got the

blood chemistry corrected, I needed potassium due to increased

diuretics, found osteopenia start calcium w/D, blood sugar out of

whack, test and treat for diabetes dependent on prednisone dosage,

diagnose fibromyalgia off to Rheum doc, starts me on regular eye

exams due to blurry vision caused by pred. Continues to work with me

in finding a sleeping aid, sent me for sleep study, prescribed bi-

pap. This took another year. Then she said it is time to go to UW

and meet with Dr. Raghu.

Dr. R prescribed NAC the first day. He then suggested the whole thing

was caused by GERD/Reflux. Holy crap! All of this and the only

thing wrong with me was heartburn? (oversimplification). Once that

was eliminated I went back on Imuran, stuck with it for about 9

months but it made it sick and I decided that even if it was helping

me I didn't want to live long feeling so bad. Then we tried

cytoxin. Three weeks and I was still vomiting and developed a major

uti. Back to Imuran, Dr. R says I need to try again and I do, same

results. Then it is actimmune -interferon gamma 1b (I think that is

right). Three times a week off I go for injections, my insurance

will not cover if I self inject. Start on Tracleer for pulmonary

hypertension. Start testing for tx.

Through all this I am on and off oxygen, I see eye doc, urologist,

gastroenterologist, neurologist, cardiologist, chiropractor, rheumy,

bone doc, have monthly labs, pain meds. . After the tx testing I said

ENOUGH. I say no to tx, I say no to many of the other drugs and

refuse to take anything that makes me feel miserable for more than 90

days. I have a counselor/therapist I see once a month. I can tell

her all things I can't share with my family. I don't feel bad if it

makes her sad because I pay her to listen. It is a major relief for

me.

Within the last year or so Dr. R changed my dx to NSIP. I haven't

asked why, I think it is due to my longevity. I'm not as curious

about some things as I was in the beginning. In 2005 we again did

some of the tx screening (I still didn't want one) and one of my

tests showed positive myostitus (sp?) After discussing with both lung

and rheumy docs I made the decision not to pursue further testing or

treatment. Treatment would entail a large increase in prednisone and

an additional autoimmune medication and now is not the time for me

for either.

This summer Dr. R told me I am deteriorating, based on pfts, 6 minute

walk, etc. He again mentioned tx. In Dec. I will have eccho, ct and

the usual pfts and then it may be time for another decision.

Joy, this has been long and maybe more than you wanted to know. My

dx for the most part has been ILD with fibrosing added to the

beginning or the end. Dr. R says he doesn't know for sure what

worked for me but something must have. Dr. R will answer your

questions, he is always late btw, he is very positive when he talks

to me so I make sure that I get a copy of his notes after my

appointments. Right now I take pred, nac, nexxium, various pain

medications and something for sleep/anxiety. I'm on 02 24/7,

although I can sit quietly without it. I still drive but only in

what my friends call " my magic circle " and that means close to home

and not on freeways. I decided 12 years ago I was not going to live

like a sick person (whatever that means) so I spend as little energy

as I can on doctors, talking about my illness, even thinking about

it. Great things have happened to me since that first hospital

visit. This is not how I planned my life to end and I don't think it

will for a while longer.

Have you been asked about exposure to some of the more common causes

of HP? What did they find in your biopsy besides HP? Any positive

exposures? Have you lived and worked in the same place since before

your diagnosis? Some things were ruled out for me because I had

relocated several times. Has anyone come out and checked your home?

I will pray for you, for wisdom, strength, healing, and peace.

Kathie NSIP'95 PH

>

> Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open

lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

second opinion.

> So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

>

>

> Please visit..Thanks!

> www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

>

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Hi Joy,

My story is pretty common in many ways. About 13 or 14 years ago I

noticed I was sob. I was working full time and was pretty active but

I noticed it was getting difficult to take those long walks, go out

dancing, etc. I had read that sometimes women who had asthma as

children and then outgrew it would be revisited by it during (peri)

or menopause. Sounded good to me and since I didn't have a Dr. I

bought an over the counter inhaler and moved on. I also thought it

was just me getting older and not being in as good of shape.

One night I met some friends for drinks and dinner and since I had 2

drinks I asked someone to take me home. The next morning I got up

and decided it was so nice I would just walk (2.5 mi) to the

restaurant and get the car. I was so sob, and weak and seriously

afraid I wouldn't get there. I did and I immediately went to the

nearest " doc in a box " . She said she didn't think it was asthma but

there was some wheezing she thought it was bronchitis and gave me an

antibiotic and prednisone. About a week into the prednisone I was

feeling good! Those steps were " nothing " , I was thinking I was

in " high cotton " . Then there was the pred taper and three weeks later

I'm in the hospital with a fever and sats well below 90. My first dx

was Legionnaire's disease, then pneumocystis, after 2 days I was sent

to ICU. A new doctor had been called in, he suggested ARDS, prepared

me for intubation and increased both prednisone and antibiotic. I

started recovering within 24 hours without the vent, was kept there

for another 2 days and then sent to a regular room. There was still

no clear dx but heart failure was mentioned. I was there for 3

weeks, they wouldn't let me go until my sats were up and I could walk

and still keep them up. I went home to my second floor apartment on

oxygen.

I struggled to keep working but I would have to stop half way down

the stairs, going up or down, to rest. Three weeks later I was back

to a new Dr.'s office, crackling, wheezing and very sob. She said off

you go to the hospital. Different hospital, too. Lots more tests,

cts, x-rays, pfts, bal and finally a vat. After 2 weeks I was able

to go home, back on O2 and still no dx. I was referred to a pulmo,

he actually took care of me in the hospital. After reviewing the

results of the bal and vats he could find nothing, while the xray &

ct showed the honeycombing the bal and vat did not show IPF or UIP as

I think this specific is known as now. It did show an exposure to

aspergillius but nothing was active. It was noted that the lung

biopsy made have been taken from a place where the IPF wasn't active.

From that point on the dx was HP. I was up and down on prednisone

like a yo-yo. I was told that with HP once they found out what it

was they could fix it. No one ever found out. My doc said the

symptoms I was reporting were not consistent with the other tests.

I'm still trying to keep my job but finally had to start the process

for disability. This process from first hospital to HP dx took

around a year.

I decided it was time to see someone else. I got a referral to

Virginal Mason and one of the top docs in the pulmonary dept. I went

in told him my story and basically went through the same things,

tests, everything but the vats. Up and down on pred, on and off O2.

Finally he made the same statement about symptoms did not match tests

results. I remember that day so well, I parked across the street in

a parking garage, no handicapped placard. I could barely make it

across the street. I rested once or twice against the building

feeling like I was about to lose consciousness. Feeling embarrassed

and ashamed. When I told him how difficult it was for me to walk

over he sent me down for pft while exercising. I didn't make it 3

minutes before they dropped below 85. He was amazed, so then again

we tested for other autoimmune diseases. He consulted with the whole

pulmonary department, I met with different docs who had questions

about environment and the most common agents that cause hp. One

doctor said perhaps something had set off my immune system and even

though I wasn't exposed to it now my body hadn't recognized that and

the inflammation continued. This was year 2+. It was also the first

time PF was uttered as well as chronic and progressive. Prednisone

up and down, up and down. Tried Imuran, made me sick, discussed

cytoxin but he felt I was too young that it can actually cause PF and

cancer. By now I have gained a great deal of weight, 100 lbs, I am

perimenopausal but the pred had an effect on my periods (doc said it

was the first time he'd heard of that!), I couldn't sleep, emotional

roller coaster, losing my hair, etc. I'm not getting better and it

seems that I should look for someone closer to home. Somewhere in

here I decided I better start my own research. The dx is now ILD

w/secondary PF.

Because of insurance I had to change docs. By now I just want

somebody for " maintenance " . There is no more tissue left to test,

and just about every test imaginable had been done. I found a local

pulm and she had been my doc since then. She wasn't involved in

the " what is it part? " but has certainly been the side effects doc.

She got me to rehab and that started the weight loss plus she got the

blood chemistry corrected, I needed potassium due to increased

diuretics, found osteopenia start calcium w/D, blood sugar out of

whack, test and treat for diabetes dependent on prednisone dosage,

diagnose fibromyalgia off to Rheum doc, starts me on regular eye

exams due to blurry vision caused by pred. Continues to work with me

in finding a sleeping aid, sent me for sleep study, prescribed bi-

pap. This took another year. Then she said it is time to go to UW

and meet with Dr. Raghu.

Dr. R prescribed NAC the first day. He then suggested the whole thing

was caused by GERD/Reflux. Holy crap! All of this and the only

thing wrong with me was heartburn? (oversimplification). Once that

was eliminated I went back on Imuran, stuck with it for about 9

months but it made it sick and I decided that even if it was helping

me I didn't want to live long feeling so bad. Then we tried

cytoxin. Three weeks and I was still vomiting and developed a major

uti. Back to Imuran, Dr. R says I need to try again and I do, same

results. Then it is actimmune -interferon gamma 1b (I think that is

right). Three times a week off I go for injections, my insurance

will not cover if I self inject. Start on Tracleer for pulmonary

hypertension. Start testing for tx.

Through all this I am on and off oxygen, I see eye doc, urologist,

gastroenterologist, neurologist, cardiologist, chiropractor, rheumy,

bone doc, have monthly labs, pain meds. . After the tx testing I said

ENOUGH. I say no to tx, I say no to many of the other drugs and

refuse to take anything that makes me feel miserable for more than 90

days. I have a counselor/therapist I see once a month. I can tell

her all things I can't share with my family. I don't feel bad if it

makes her sad because I pay her to listen. It is a major relief for

me.

Within the last year or so Dr. R changed my dx to NSIP. I haven't

asked why, I think it is due to my longevity. I'm not as curious

about some things as I was in the beginning. In 2005 we again did

some of the tx screening (I still didn't want one) and one of my

tests showed positive myostitus (sp?) After discussing with both lung

and rheumy docs I made the decision not to pursue further testing or

treatment. Treatment would entail a large increase in prednisone and

an additional autoimmune medication and now is not the time for me

for either.

This summer Dr. R told me I am deteriorating, based on pfts, 6 minute

walk, etc. He again mentioned tx. In Dec. I will have eccho, ct and

the usual pfts and then it may be time for another decision.

Joy, this has been long and maybe more than you wanted to know. My

dx for the most part has been ILD with fibrosing added to the

beginning or the end. Dr. R says he doesn't know for sure what

worked for me but something must have. Dr. R will answer your

questions, he is always late btw, he is very positive when he talks

to me so I make sure that I get a copy of his notes after my

appointments. Right now I take pred, nac, nexxium, various pain

medications and something for sleep/anxiety. I'm on 02 24/7,

although I can sit quietly without it. I still drive but only in

what my friends call " my magic circle " and that means close to home

and not on freeways. I decided 12 years ago I was not going to live

like a sick person (whatever that means) so I spend as little energy

as I can on doctors, talking about my illness, even thinking about

it. Great things have happened to me since that first hospital

visit. This is not how I planned my life to end and I don't think it

will for a while longer.

Have you been asked about exposure to some of the more common causes

of HP? What did they find in your biopsy besides HP? Any positive

exposures? Have you lived and worked in the same place since before

your diagnosis? Some things were ruled out for me because I had

relocated several times. Has anyone come out and checked your home?

I will pray for you, for wisdom, strength, healing, and peace.

Kathie NSIP'95 PH

>

> Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open

lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

second opinion.

> So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

>

>

> Please visit..Thanks!

> www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

>

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Hi Joy,

My story is pretty common in many ways. About 13 or 14 years ago I

noticed I was sob. I was working full time and was pretty active but

I noticed it was getting difficult to take those long walks, go out

dancing, etc. I had read that sometimes women who had asthma as

children and then outgrew it would be revisited by it during (peri)

or menopause. Sounded good to me and since I didn't have a Dr. I

bought an over the counter inhaler and moved on. I also thought it

was just me getting older and not being in as good of shape.

One night I met some friends for drinks and dinner and since I had 2

drinks I asked someone to take me home. The next morning I got up

and decided it was so nice I would just walk (2.5 mi) to the

restaurant and get the car. I was so sob, and weak and seriously

afraid I wouldn't get there. I did and I immediately went to the

nearest " doc in a box " . She said she didn't think it was asthma but

there was some wheezing she thought it was bronchitis and gave me an

antibiotic and prednisone. About a week into the prednisone I was

feeling good! Those steps were " nothing " , I was thinking I was

in " high cotton " . Then there was the pred taper and three weeks later

I'm in the hospital with a fever and sats well below 90. My first dx

was Legionnaire's disease, then pneumocystis, after 2 days I was sent

to ICU. A new doctor had been called in, he suggested ARDS, prepared

me for intubation and increased both prednisone and antibiotic. I

started recovering within 24 hours without the vent, was kept there

for another 2 days and then sent to a regular room. There was still

no clear dx but heart failure was mentioned. I was there for 3

weeks, they wouldn't let me go until my sats were up and I could walk

and still keep them up. I went home to my second floor apartment on

oxygen.

I struggled to keep working but I would have to stop half way down

the stairs, going up or down, to rest. Three weeks later I was back

to a new Dr.'s office, crackling, wheezing and very sob. She said off

you go to the hospital. Different hospital, too. Lots more tests,

cts, x-rays, pfts, bal and finally a vat. After 2 weeks I was able

to go home, back on O2 and still no dx. I was referred to a pulmo,

he actually took care of me in the hospital. After reviewing the

results of the bal and vats he could find nothing, while the xray &

ct showed the honeycombing the bal and vat did not show IPF or UIP as

I think this specific is known as now. It did show an exposure to

aspergillius but nothing was active. It was noted that the lung

biopsy made have been taken from a place where the IPF wasn't active.

From that point on the dx was HP. I was up and down on prednisone

like a yo-yo. I was told that with HP once they found out what it

was they could fix it. No one ever found out. My doc said the

symptoms I was reporting were not consistent with the other tests.

I'm still trying to keep my job but finally had to start the process

for disability. This process from first hospital to HP dx took

around a year.

I decided it was time to see someone else. I got a referral to

Virginal Mason and one of the top docs in the pulmonary dept. I went

in told him my story and basically went through the same things,

tests, everything but the vats. Up and down on pred, on and off O2.

Finally he made the same statement about symptoms did not match tests

results. I remember that day so well, I parked across the street in

a parking garage, no handicapped placard. I could barely make it

across the street. I rested once or twice against the building

feeling like I was about to lose consciousness. Feeling embarrassed

and ashamed. When I told him how difficult it was for me to walk

over he sent me down for pft while exercising. I didn't make it 3

minutes before they dropped below 85. He was amazed, so then again

we tested for other autoimmune diseases. He consulted with the whole

pulmonary department, I met with different docs who had questions

about environment and the most common agents that cause hp. One

doctor said perhaps something had set off my immune system and even

though I wasn't exposed to it now my body hadn't recognized that and

the inflammation continued. This was year 2+. It was also the first

time PF was uttered as well as chronic and progressive. Prednisone

up and down, up and down. Tried Imuran, made me sick, discussed

cytoxin but he felt I was too young that it can actually cause PF and

cancer. By now I have gained a great deal of weight, 100 lbs, I am

perimenopausal but the pred had an effect on my periods (doc said it

was the first time he'd heard of that!), I couldn't sleep, emotional

roller coaster, losing my hair, etc. I'm not getting better and it

seems that I should look for someone closer to home. Somewhere in

here I decided I better start my own research. The dx is now ILD

w/secondary PF.

Because of insurance I had to change docs. By now I just want

somebody for " maintenance " . There is no more tissue left to test,

and just about every test imaginable had been done. I found a local

pulm and she had been my doc since then. She wasn't involved in

the " what is it part? " but has certainly been the side effects doc.

She got me to rehab and that started the weight loss plus she got the

blood chemistry corrected, I needed potassium due to increased

diuretics, found osteopenia start calcium w/D, blood sugar out of

whack, test and treat for diabetes dependent on prednisone dosage,

diagnose fibromyalgia off to Rheum doc, starts me on regular eye

exams due to blurry vision caused by pred. Continues to work with me

in finding a sleeping aid, sent me for sleep study, prescribed bi-

pap. This took another year. Then she said it is time to go to UW

and meet with Dr. Raghu.

Dr. R prescribed NAC the first day. He then suggested the whole thing

was caused by GERD/Reflux. Holy crap! All of this and the only

thing wrong with me was heartburn? (oversimplification). Once that

was eliminated I went back on Imuran, stuck with it for about 9

months but it made it sick and I decided that even if it was helping

me I didn't want to live long feeling so bad. Then we tried

cytoxin. Three weeks and I was still vomiting and developed a major

uti. Back to Imuran, Dr. R says I need to try again and I do, same

results. Then it is actimmune -interferon gamma 1b (I think that is

right). Three times a week off I go for injections, my insurance

will not cover if I self inject. Start on Tracleer for pulmonary

hypertension. Start testing for tx.

Through all this I am on and off oxygen, I see eye doc, urologist,

gastroenterologist, neurologist, cardiologist, chiropractor, rheumy,

bone doc, have monthly labs, pain meds. . After the tx testing I said

ENOUGH. I say no to tx, I say no to many of the other drugs and

refuse to take anything that makes me feel miserable for more than 90

days. I have a counselor/therapist I see once a month. I can tell

her all things I can't share with my family. I don't feel bad if it

makes her sad because I pay her to listen. It is a major relief for

me.

Within the last year or so Dr. R changed my dx to NSIP. I haven't

asked why, I think it is due to my longevity. I'm not as curious

about some things as I was in the beginning. In 2005 we again did

some of the tx screening (I still didn't want one) and one of my

tests showed positive myostitus (sp?) After discussing with both lung

and rheumy docs I made the decision not to pursue further testing or

treatment. Treatment would entail a large increase in prednisone and

an additional autoimmune medication and now is not the time for me

for either.

This summer Dr. R told me I am deteriorating, based on pfts, 6 minute

walk, etc. He again mentioned tx. In Dec. I will have eccho, ct and

the usual pfts and then it may be time for another decision.

Joy, this has been long and maybe more than you wanted to know. My

dx for the most part has been ILD with fibrosing added to the

beginning or the end. Dr. R says he doesn't know for sure what

worked for me but something must have. Dr. R will answer your

questions, he is always late btw, he is very positive when he talks

to me so I make sure that I get a copy of his notes after my

appointments. Right now I take pred, nac, nexxium, various pain

medications and something for sleep/anxiety. I'm on 02 24/7,

although I can sit quietly without it. I still drive but only in

what my friends call " my magic circle " and that means close to home

and not on freeways. I decided 12 years ago I was not going to live

like a sick person (whatever that means) so I spend as little energy

as I can on doctors, talking about my illness, even thinking about

it. Great things have happened to me since that first hospital

visit. This is not how I planned my life to end and I don't think it

will for a while longer.

Have you been asked about exposure to some of the more common causes

of HP? What did they find in your biopsy besides HP? Any positive

exposures? Have you lived and worked in the same place since before

your diagnosis? Some things were ruled out for me because I had

relocated several times. Has anyone come out and checked your home?

I will pray for you, for wisdom, strength, healing and peace.

Kathie NSIP'95 PH

>

> Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open

lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

second opinion.

> So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

>

>

> Please visit..Thanks!

> www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

>

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Kathie, I hope you won't mind....what

problems did you have with Imuran?

I have been taking prednisone and Imuran for 26 months. The miserable

side-effects are from the prednisone.

Hopefully the imuran dose 100mg wii decrease soon.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

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Kathie wrote:

Hi Joy,

My story is pretty common in many ways. About 13 or 14 years ago I

noticed I was sob. I was working full time and was pretty active but

I noticed it was getting difficult to take those long walks, go out

dancing, etc. I had read that sometimes women who had asthma as

children and then outgrew it would be revisited by it during (peri)

or menopause. Sounded good to me and since I didn't have a Dr. I

bought an over the counter inhaler and moved on. I also thought it

was just me getting older and not being in as good of shape.

One night I met some friends for drinks and dinner and since I had 2

drinks I asked someone to take me home. The next morning I got up

and decided it was so nice I would just walk (2.5 mi) to the

restaurant and get the car. I was so sob, and weak and seriously

afraid I wouldn't get there. I did and I immediately went to the

nearest "doc in a box". She said she didn't think it was asthma but

there was some wheezing she thought it was bronchitis and gave me an

antibiotic and prednisone. About a week into the prednisone I was

feeling good! Those steps were "nothing", I was thinking I was

in "high cotton". Then there was the pred taper and three weeks later

I'm in the hospital with a fever and sats well below 90. My first dx

was Legionnaire's disease, then pneumocystis, after 2 days I was

sent

to ICU. A new doctor had been called in, he suggested ARDS, prepared

me for intubation and increased both prednisone and antibiotic. I

started recovering within 24 hours without the vent, was kept there

for another 2 days and then sent to a regular room. There was still

no clear dx but heart failure was mentioned. I was there for 3

weeks, they wouldn't let me go until my sats were up and I could walk

and still keep them up. I went home to my second floor apartment on

oxygen.

I struggled to keep working but I would have to stop half way down

the stairs, going up or down, to rest. Three weeks later I was back

to a new Dr.'s office, crackling, wheezing and very sob. She said off

you go to the hospital. Different hospital, too. Lots more tests,

cts, x-rays, pfts, bal and finally a vat. After 2 weeks I was able

to go home, back on O2 and still no dx. I was referred to a pulmo,

he actually took care of me in the hospital. After reviewing the

results of the bal and vats he could find nothing, while the xray &

ct showed the honeycombing the bal and vat did not show IPF or UIP as

I think this specific is known as now. It did show an exposure to

aspergillius but nothing was active. It was noted that the lung

biopsy made have been taken from a place where the IPF wasn't active.

>From that point on the dx was HP. I was up and down on prednisone

like a yo-yo. I was told that with HP once they found out what it

was they could fix it. No one ever found out. My doc said the

symptoms I was reporting were not consistent with the other tests.

I'm still trying to keep my job but finally had to start the process

for disability. This process from first hospital to HP dx took

around a year.

I decided it was time to see someone else. I got a referral to

Virginal Mason and one of the top docs in the pulmonary dept. I went

in told him my story and basically went through the same things,

tests, everything but the vats. Up and down on pred, on and off O2.

Finally he made the same statement about symptoms did not match tests

results. I remember that day so well, I parked across the street in

a parking garage, no handicapped placard. I could barely make it

across the street. I rested once or twice against the building

feeling like I was about to lose consciousness. Feeling embarrassed

and ashamed. When I told him how difficult it was for me to walk

over he sent me down for pft while exercising. I didn't make it 3

minutes before they dropped below 85. He was amazed, so then again

we tested for other autoimmune diseases. He consulted with the whole

pulmonary department, I met with different docs who had questions

about environment and the most common agents that cause hp. One

doctor said perhaps something had set off my immune system and even

though I wasn't exposed to it now my body hadn't recognized that and

the inflammation continued. This was year 2+. It was also the first

time PF was uttered as well as chronic and progressive. Prednisone

up and down, up and down. Tried Imuran, made me sick, discussed

cytoxin but he felt I was too young that it can actually cause PF and

cancer. By now I have gained a great deal of weight, 100 lbs, I am

perimenopausal but the pred had an effect on my periods (doc said it

was the first time he'd heard of that!), I couldn't sleep, emotional

roller coaster, losing my hair, etc. I'm not getting better and it

seems that I should look for someone closer to home. Somewhere in

here I decided I better start my own research. The dx is now ILD

w/secondary PF.

Because of insurance I had to change docs. By now I just want

somebody for "maintenance". There is no more tissue left to test,

and just about every test imaginable had been done. I found a local

pulm and she had been my doc since then. She wasn't involved in

the "what is it part?" but has certainly been the side effects doc.

She got me to rehab and that started the weight loss plus she got the

blood chemistry corrected, I needed potassium due to increased

diuretics, found osteopenia start calcium w/D, blood sugar out of

whack, test and treat for diabetes dependent on prednisone dosage,

diagnose fibromyalgia off to Rheum doc, starts me on regular eye

exams due to blurry vision caused by pred. Continues to work with me

in finding a sleeping aid, sent me for sleep study, prescribed bi-

pap. This took another year. Then she said it is time to go to UW

and meet with Dr. Raghu.

Dr. R prescribed NAC the first day. He then suggested the whole thing

was caused by GERD/Reflux. Holy crap! All of this and the only

thing wrong with me was heartburn? (oversimplification). Once that

was eliminated I went back on Imuran, stuck with it for about 9

months but it made it sick and I decided that even if it was helping

me I didn't want to live long feeling so bad. Then we tried

cytoxin. Three weeks and I was still vomiting and developed a major

uti. Back to Imuran, Dr. R says I need to try again and I do, same

results. Then it is actimmune -interferon gamma 1b (I think that is

right). Three times a week off I go for injections, my insurance

will not cover if I self inject. Start on Tracleer for pulmonary

hypertension. Start testing for tx.

Through all this I am on and off oxygen, I see eye doc, urologist,

gastroenterologist, neurologist, cardiologist, chiropractor, rheumy,

bone doc, have monthly labs, pain meds. . After the tx testing I said

ENOUGH. I say no to tx, I say no to many of the other drugs and

refuse to take anything that makes me feel miserable for more than 90

days. I have a counselor/therapist I see once a month. I can tell

her all things I can't share with my family. I don't feel bad if it

makes her sad because I pay her to listen. It is a major relief for

me.

Within the last year or so Dr. R changed my dx to NSIP. I haven't

asked why, I think it is due to my longevity. I'm not as curious

about some things as I was in the beginning. In 2005 we again did

some of the tx screening (I still didn't want one) and one of my

tests showed positive myostitus (sp?) After discussing with both lung

and rheumy docs I made the decision not to pursue further testing or

treatment. Treatment would entail a large increase in prednisone and

an additional autoimmune medication and now is not the time for me

for either.

This summer Dr. R told me I am deteriorating, based on pfts, 6 minute

walk, etc. He again mentioned tx. In Dec. I will have eccho, ct and

the usual pfts and then it may be time for another decision.

Joy, this has been long and maybe more than you wanted to know. My

dx for the most part has been ILD with fibrosing added to the

beginning or the end. Dr. R says he doesn't know for sure what

worked for me but something must have. Dr. R will answer your

questions, he is always late btw, he is very positive when he talks

to me so I make sure that I get a copy of his notes after my

appointments. Right now I take pred, nac, nexxium, various pain

medications and something for sleep/anxiety. I'm on 02 24/7,

although I can sit quietly without it. I still drive but only in

what my friends call "my magic circle" and that means close to home

and not on freeways. I decided 12 years ago I was not going to live

like a sick person (whatever that means) so I spend as little energy

as I can on doctors, talking about my illness, even thinking about

it. Great things have happened to me since that first hospital

visit. This is not how I planned my life to end and I don't think it

will for a while longer.

Have you been asked about exposure to some of the more common causes

of HP? What did they find in your biopsy besides HP? Any positive

exposures? Have you lived and worked in the same place since before

your diagnosis? Some things were ruled out for me because I had

relocated several times. Has anyone come out and checked your home?

I will pray for you, for wisdom, strength, healing, and peace.

Kathie NSIP'95 PH

>

> Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the open

lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

second opinion.

> So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

>

>

> Please visit..Thanks!

> www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

>

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, Kathie here. I have been on it twice for 6+months both times.

I could never get past the gastrointestinal side effects, nausea,

diarrhea, vomiting, and the exhaustion. Then there was the imbalance

between red and white cells, every cut became infected, not to

mention UTIs, sinus infections, I also developed gout somewhere along

the line and I couldn't take the medication I needed because of drug

interactions. We tried different dosages, different times of the day,

etc. but I never could get up to the recommended dose where it might

do some good. All of these symptoms left or improved greatly when I

quit taking the Imuran. And I wasn't getting better (silly) and I

wasn't stabilized, either. Maybe the Imuran wouldn't have bothered me

without the prednisone but it wasn't an either or choice.

I think I'm tough, but feeling that miserable day after day just

wasn't the quality of life I wanted.

Ask me anything, if I remember I will answer you! lol

Blessings,

Kathie NSIP '95, PH

> > >

> > > Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

> > interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

> > with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the

open

> > lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

> > than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

> > second opinion.

> > > So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

> > health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit..Thanks!

> > > www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> > > www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

> > >

> >

> >

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, Kathie here. I have been on it twice for 6+months both times.

I could never get past the gastrointestinal side effects, nausea,

diarrhea, vomiting, and the exhaustion. Then there was the imbalance

between red and white cells, every cut became infected, not to

mention UTIs, sinus infections, I also developed gout somewhere along

the line and I couldn't take the medication I needed because of drug

interactions. We tried different dosages, different times of the day,

etc. but I never could get up to the recommended dose where it might

do some good. All of these symptoms left or improved greatly when I

quit taking the Imuran. And I wasn't getting better (silly) and I

wasn't stabilized, either. Maybe the Imuran wouldn't have bothered me

without the prednisone but it wasn't an either or choice.

I think I'm tough, but feeling that miserable day after day just

wasn't the quality of life I wanted.

Ask me anything, if I remember I will answer you! lol

Blessings,

Kathie NSIP '95, PH

> > >

> > > Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

> > interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

> > with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the

open

> > lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

> > than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

> > second opinion.

> > > So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

> > health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit..Thanks!

> > > www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> > > www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

> > >

> >

> >

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, Kathie here. I have been on it twice for 6+months both times.

I could never get past the gastrointestinal side effects, nausea,

diarrhea, vomiting, and the exhaustion. Then there was the imbalance

between red and white cells, every cut became infected, not to

mention UTIs, sinus infections, I also developed gout somewhere along

the line and I couldn't take the medication I needed because of drug

interactions. We tried different dosages, different times of the day,

etc. but I never could get up to the recommended dose where it might

do some good. All of these symptoms left or improved greatly when I

quit taking the Imuran. And I wasn't getting better (silly) and I

wasn't stabilized, either. Maybe the Imuran wouldn't have bothered me

without the prednisone but it wasn't an either or choice.

I think I'm tough, but feeling that miserable day after day just

wasn't the quality of life I wanted.

Ask me anything, if I remember I will answer you! lol

Blessings,

Kathie NSIP '95, PH

> > >

> > > Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in Seattle. I am

> > interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was diagnosed

> > with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after the

open

> > lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live longer

> > than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

> > second opinion.

> > > So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and subsequent

> > health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit..Thanks!

> > > www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> > > www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

> > >

> >

> >

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Kathie, I'm very interested in your

response. I've always been on both the Prednisone and Imuran at the

same time...I also take Mepron( that's an anti-bacterial

medication to help ward off the infections that might show up due to

both of the the immuno-suppressants). I have had more UTI's than usual

( that's before being

dx'd)I've had IBS for 20 years...it's usually under cntrol with fiber

and activity but it has acted up more since this mess began. I have

the white/red blood cell issue to some degree but the doc's aren't

concerned at this time. I wonder if the Imuran has caused the increased

incidents of UTI's and IBS.

I've been stable since dx...8/05...the PFT's are the same, the HRCT are

too. I'm stronger and have felt better than 2 years ago. Exhaustion

is just part of my life . We've decided that I'm maybe 50% better than

back in 2005. I'm on O2 24/7..., I've retired from teaching, I can do

far less and am very aware of my lower energy level. However...the

NSIP is still stable...there has been no more fibrosis or

honeycombing...the velcro noise is gone and I'm SOB less often and the

cough is only really bothersome when I've over-done or over-talked!!!!

So, I'll keep the medications as they are...the Prednisone has gone

from 40mg to 12.5mg and hopefully it will be lowered again in

November. The imuran dose is supposed to be lowered too.I do hate

taking all the medications...the water alone to get all the pills down

in the morning...keeps me home for hours!!!!! Sorry...that was TMI!

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

Potter, reader,carousel lover and

MomMom to Darah

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion”

Bob Marley

Kathie wrote:

, Kathie here. I have been on it twice for 6+months both

times.

I could never get past the gastrointestinal side effects, nausea,

diarrhea, vomiting, and the exhaustion. Then there was the imbalance

between red and white cells, every cut became infected, not to

mention UTIs, sinus infections, I also developed gout somewhere along

the line and I couldn't take the medication I needed because of drug

interactions. We tried different dosages, different times of the day,

etc. but I never could get up to the recommended dose where it might

do some good. All of these symptoms left or improved greatly when I

quit taking the Imuran. And I wasn't getting better (silly) and I

wasn't stabilized, either. Maybe the Imuran wouldn't have bothered me

without the prednisone but it wasn't an either or choice.

I think I'm tough, but feeling that miserable day after day just

wasn't the quality of life I wanted.

Ask me anything, if I remember I will answer you! lol

Blessings,

Kathie NSIP '95, PH

> > >

> > > Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in

Seattle. I am

> > interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was

diagnosed

> > with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after

the

open

> > lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live

longer

> > than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

> > second opinion.

> > > So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and

subsequent

> > health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit..Thanks!

> > > www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> > > www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Kathie, I'm very interested in your

response. I've always been on both the Prednisone and Imuran at the

same time...I also take Mepron( that's an anti-bacterial

medication to help ward off the infections that might show up due to

both of the the immuno-suppressants). I have had more UTI's than usual

( that's before being

dx'd)I've had IBS for 20 years...it's usually under cntrol with fiber

and activity but it has acted up more since this mess began. I have

the white/red blood cell issue to some degree but the doc's aren't

concerned at this time. I wonder if the Imuran has caused the increased

incidents of UTI's and IBS.

I've been stable since dx...8/05...the PFT's are the same, the HRCT are

too. I'm stronger and have felt better than 2 years ago. Exhaustion

is just part of my life . We've decided that I'm maybe 50% better than

back in 2005. I'm on O2 24/7..., I've retired from teaching, I can do

far less and am very aware of my lower energy level. However...the

NSIP is still stable...there has been no more fibrosis or

honeycombing...the velcro noise is gone and I'm SOB less often and the

cough is only really bothersome when I've over-done or over-talked!!!!

So, I'll keep the medications as they are...the Prednisone has gone

from 40mg to 12.5mg and hopefully it will be lowered again in

November. The imuran dose is supposed to be lowered too.I do hate

taking all the medications...the water alone to get all the pills down

in the morning...keeps me home for hours!!!!! Sorry...that was TMI!

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

Potter, reader,carousel lover and

MomMom to Darah

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion”

Bob Marley

Kathie wrote:

, Kathie here. I have been on it twice for 6+months both

times.

I could never get past the gastrointestinal side effects, nausea,

diarrhea, vomiting, and the exhaustion. Then there was the imbalance

between red and white cells, every cut became infected, not to

mention UTIs, sinus infections, I also developed gout somewhere along

the line and I couldn't take the medication I needed because of drug

interactions. We tried different dosages, different times of the day,

etc. but I never could get up to the recommended dose where it might

do some good. All of these symptoms left or improved greatly when I

quit taking the Imuran. And I wasn't getting better (silly) and I

wasn't stabilized, either. Maybe the Imuran wouldn't have bothered me

without the prednisone but it wasn't an either or choice.

I think I'm tough, but feeling that miserable day after day just

wasn't the quality of life I wanted.

Ask me anything, if I remember I will answer you! lol

Blessings,

Kathie NSIP '95, PH

> > >

> > > Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in

Seattle. I am

> > interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was

diagnosed

> > with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after

the

open

> > lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live

longer

> > than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

> > second opinion.

> > > So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and

subsequent

> > health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit..Thanks!

> > > www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> > > www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Kathie, I'm very interested in your

response. I've always been on both the Prednisone and Imuran at the

same time...I also take Mepron( that's an anti-bacterial

medication to help ward off the infections that might show up due to

both of the the immuno-suppressants). I have had more UTI's than usual

( that's before being

dx'd)I've had IBS for 20 years...it's usually under cntrol with fiber

and activity but it has acted up more since this mess began. I have

the white/red blood cell issue to some degree but the doc's aren't

concerned at this time. I wonder if the Imuran has caused the increased

incidents of UTI's and IBS.

I've been stable since dx...8/05...the PFT's are the same, the HRCT are

too. I'm stronger and have felt better than 2 years ago. Exhaustion

is just part of my life . We've decided that I'm maybe 50% better than

back in 2005. I'm on O2 24/7..., I've retired from teaching, I can do

far less and am very aware of my lower energy level. However...the

NSIP is still stable...there has been no more fibrosis or

honeycombing...the velcro noise is gone and I'm SOB less often and the

cough is only really bothersome when I've over-done or over-talked!!!!

So, I'll keep the medications as they are...the Prednisone has gone

from 40mg to 12.5mg and hopefully it will be lowered again in

November. The imuran dose is supposed to be lowered too.I do hate

taking all the medications...the water alone to get all the pills down

in the morning...keeps me home for hours!!!!! Sorry...that was TMI!

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

Potter, reader,carousel lover and

MomMom to Darah

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion”

Bob Marley

Kathie wrote:

, Kathie here. I have been on it twice for 6+months both

times.

I could never get past the gastrointestinal side effects, nausea,

diarrhea, vomiting, and the exhaustion. Then there was the imbalance

between red and white cells, every cut became infected, not to

mention UTIs, sinus infections, I also developed gout somewhere along

the line and I couldn't take the medication I needed because of drug

interactions. We tried different dosages, different times of the day,

etc. but I never could get up to the recommended dose where it might

do some good. All of these symptoms left or improved greatly when I

quit taking the Imuran. And I wasn't getting better (silly) and I

wasn't stabilized, either. Maybe the Imuran wouldn't have bothered me

without the prednisone but it wasn't an either or choice.

I think I'm tough, but feeling that miserable day after day just

wasn't the quality of life I wanted.

Ask me anything, if I remember I will answer you! lol

Blessings,

Kathie NSIP '95, PH

> > >

> > > Hi Kathie, my name is Joy (joynoel) and I live in

Seattle. I am

> > interested in your Hyper. Sensitivity Pneumonitis. I was

diagnosed

> > with fibrosis in 3/06. Not until a couple months ago, after

the

open

> > lung biopsy, did we know I have HP. So, the doc says I live

longer

> > than with IPF. I see Dr. Raghu at UofW end of Dec. I wanted a

> > second opinion.

> > > So, what can you tell me about your diagnosis and

subsequent

> > health from it. Thank you so much. Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit..Thanks!

> > > www.stores.ebay.com/rhapsodydesignjewelry or

> > > www.thehandcraftedjewelrymall.com/joykiefner/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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> >No virus found in this incoming message.

> >Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1073 - Release

Date:

10/16/2007 8:22 AM

> >

> >

>

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Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 9:54 AM

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