Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I applaud your tinkering around to try and handle that insomnia. One or two thoughts, that you surely know: dont take B vitamins after evening, they keep awake. A cup of warm milk. </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Magnesium can sometimes be helpful. You could try and Epsom salt bathe before bed. Also my sleep has definitely improved since taking iodine supplements. Irene At 08:22 AM 3/19/07, you wrote: >Ok, for years, I have had issues with insomnia. I >have tried several Chinese acuptuncturists (and I live >in the San Francisco Bay Area so there are a lot of >good ones), I have tried homeopathy, I have tried a >lot of the various herb treatments. I live in Palo >Alto and so had a sleep study at the Stanford Sleep >Center (purportedly the best in the world). They sent >me to a workshop on sleeping behavior and I must admit >that helped SOME. > >So, the one thing that I have tried that works without >causing any side-effects (at least apparently) is >amitryptyline. I take a very low dosage. Dont beat >me up over that. I dont like taking pharmaceuticals >but my quality of life has drastically improved as a >result of this. I now sleep well except strangely the >days around the full moon! Any students of lycanthropy >out there ? > >Nonetheless, having played all of my other cards, I am >wondering if the problem might not be mercury. I have >4 fillings with the stuff and I have had them since I >was a teenager. What do you think? Also is there any >way to get your managed health care to fund >replacement fillings as I understand it is very costly >to have the fillings removed and replaced. > > Seay >Palo Alto, CA > >__________________________________________________________ >TV dinner still cooling? >Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. ><http://tv./>http://tv./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 , > Ok, for years, I have had issues with insomnia. The major thing that helps for me are these two: -- Black out everything at night to whatever extreme extent possible, and where a sleep mask in addition. -- Wake up at the same time every day no matter what, preferably early, around 5 or 6, turn on every possible bright light in the house immediately upon waking and begin some routine involving physical exercise for 15 or 20 minutes. Keep up your exposure to bright light as long as possible until it is naturally fully light out, or for at least an hour. Do a more intense exercise routine at some point in the morning. Or, if necessary, in the afternoon, but NOT in the evening. Melatonin cycling is normalized by exposure to bright light and physical activity upon waking. Darkness is essenital for nightly production, but the most important thing for nightly production is shutting it off as soon as possible upon waking. A third thing that has also been somewhat helpful is to follow the Mastering Leptin way of meal spacing, which is, in brief summary: -- Go five hours without snacking between meals -- Finish eating dinner at least three hours before bed -- Exercise on an empty stomach at least three hours following the last meal. It can't hurt also to reduce your exposure to EMF (computers, tv, appliances, anything electric) to only what is necessary, especially at night but preferably throughout the day. This is not a dominant factor for me -- when I'm having trouble, EMF exposure aggravates it, but following the rules above pretty much suffices and allows me to do a lot of computer work without much trouble. > I dont like taking pharmaceuticals > but my quality of life has drastically improved as a > result of this. I now sleep well except strangely the > days around the full moon! Any students of lycanthropy > out there ? I don't consistently have trouble sleeping during the full moon, but it is absolutely one of the natural triggers for sleeping problems. I have no idea why this would be except that I have noticed in the past living with my mother that we would occasionally have simultaneous insomnia, then look and see on the next day that it was a full moon and a number of different occasions. > Nonetheless, having played all of my other cards, I am > wondering if the problem might not be mercury. I have > 4 fillings with the stuff and I have had them since I > was a teenager. I have more than that -- 5 or 6 I think, since I was a little kid -- and it definitely isn't a dominant factor in my sleeping problems, though I supposed it could be a contributor. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 On 3/19/07, Irene <Irene10@...> wrote: > Magnesium can sometimes be helpful. You could try and Epsom salt bathe > before bed. Also my sleep has definitely improved since taking iodine > supplements. I forgot to mention that calcium and magnesium are helpful for me. Calcium is more important but I find them both helpful. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 > was a teenager. What do you think? Also is there any > way to get your managed health care to fund > replacement fillings as I understand it is very costly > to have the fillings removed and replaced. > > Seay ------> , My dentist wrote them up as old and needing to be replaced. My insurance company has covered all of it except for my co-pay. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 , when you are laying there at night, desperate for sleep, is your mind racing out of control? --- In , Seay <entheogens@...> wrote: > > Ok, for years, I have had issues with insomnia. I > have tried several Chinese acuptuncturists (and I live > in the San Francisco Bay Area so there are a lot of > good ones), I have tried homeopathy, I have tried a > lot of the various herb treatments. I live in Palo > Alto and so had a sleep study at the Stanford Sleep > Center (purportedly the best in the world). They sent > me to a workshop on sleeping behavior and I must admit > that helped SOME. > > So, the one thing that I have tried that works without > causing any side-effects (at least apparently) is > amitryptyline. I take a very low dosage. Dont beat > me up over that. I dont like taking pharmaceuticals > but my quality of life has drastically improved as a > result of this. I now sleep well except strangely the > days around the full moon! Any students of lycanthropy > out there ? > > Nonetheless, having played all of my other cards, I am > wondering if the problem might not be mercury. I have > 4 fillings with the stuff and I have had them since I > was a teenager. What do you think? Also is there any > way to get your managed health care to fund > replacement fillings as I understand it is very costly > to have the fillings removed and replaced. > > Seay > Palo Alto, CA > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. > http://tv./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 --- Jane Rowland <classicalwriter@...> wrote: > The full moon thing is most likely due to the excess > night light and not *lunar pull* or some such thing. I dont think so. When the moon is full, it doesn't even shine directly into my room and even if it did, I have very dark drapes over the window. One might think that I " set myself up " for this during the full moon, but I dont think so. As I am neither astrologer, star gazer, farmer nor ancient navigator I do not keep track of the phases of the moon. Nonetheless when I cannot fall asleep (my insomnia when I had it caused me to wake up early...I never had problems falling asleep) I know what time of the month it is, go outside and, sure enough, the full moon is there! ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 The full moon thing is most likely due to the excess night light and not *lunar pull* or some such thing. Even a neighbor turning on an outside light can rouse a heavy sleeper. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 On 20 Mar 2007 15:09:19 -0700, Jane Rowland > The full moon thing is most likely due to the excess night light and not > *lunar pull* or some such thing. That's about a 0% possibility for me considering that I pull my shades down completely at night and due to the street lights the moon has basically no effect on the degree of light that comes in whether the shades are up or down. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 On 20 Mar 2007 15:22:46 -0700, Seay <entheogens@...> wrote: > One might think that I " set myself up " for this during > the full moon, but I dont think so. As I am neither > astrologer, star gazer, farmer nor ancient navigator I > do not keep track of the phases of the moon. > Nonetheless when I cannot fall asleep (my insomnia > when I had it caused me to wake up early...I never had > problems falling asleep) I know what time of the month > it is, go outside and, sure enough, the full moon is > there! Whether fairly or unfairly, I treat astrology as a total load of crap. In any case, like you, I've never paid any attention to lunar cycles (or any other aspect of the weather) at all, and have only noticed this in retrospect. I have never read anywhere that this should happen and have not pursued an explanation for it all, but your similar experience puts more confidence in the lunar explanation for me. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 --- Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: >> this in retrospect. I have never read anywhere that > this should > happen and have not pursued an explanation for it > all, but your > similar experience puts more confidence in the lunar > explanation for > me. > you might be interested to know that I took a " Sleep Class " at Stanford University hospital. It was a group class of about 20 people who were there to learn about sleep and " sleep strategies " . When I mentioned that full-moons had an unusually strong effect on my sleep, about half the class exclaimed aloud that they had noticed the same thing. I dont claim to understand WHY this is, but I do know that in my case it has nothing to do with direct contact with moonlight. The expert leading the class did not voice an opinion on this one way or the other. I guess that means that there hasn't been a study done on it. I wish that I had asked if many people (in other classes that she had led) had observed the same. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 The moon's phase does have a strong effect on the earth's natural electromagnetic field. If you're very sensitive to EMF, I could easily see why the moon could be affecting your sleep. Read the works of Becker if you want to get an idea for how EMF can affect biological systems in ways other than those of ionizing radiation. -Colin > > > One might think that I " set myself up " for this during > > the full moon, but I dont think so. As I am neither > > astrologer, star gazer, farmer nor ancient navigator I > > do not keep track of the phases of the moon. > > Nonetheless when I cannot fall asleep (my insomnia > > when I had it caused me to wake up early...I never had > > problems falling asleep) I know what time of the month > > it is, go outside and, sure enough, the full moon is > > there! > > Whether fairly or unfairly, I treat astrology as a total load of crap. > In any case, like you, I've never paid any attention to lunar cycles > (or any other aspect of the weather) at all, and have only noticed > this in retrospect. I have never read anywhere that this should > happen and have not pursued an explanation for it all, but your > similar experience puts more confidence in the lunar explanation for > me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 > > Nonetheless, having played all of my other cards, I am > > wondering if the problem might not be mercury. I have > > 4 fillings with the stuff and I have had them since I > > was a teenager. What do you think? Also is there any > > way to get your managed health care to fund > > replacement fillings as I understand it is very costly > > to have the fillings removed and replaced. > When my Mercury was causing trouble with my sleeping it was accompanied by heart racing and nausea. Amusingly enough, the issue was completely corrected for me by sleeping on my stomach. -Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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