Re: RELIGION Oragnized Religion in Price's Groups (was Religion, Homosexuality, Politics and Controversy- New)

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Wanita,

> Mythology seems like it the last word today's organized religions would want

> associated to their beliefs.

Similarly, I doubt that the Swiss or the Aborigines considered their

religious beliefs to be mythology.

> Is it the Australian aborigines the immorality

> quote is about?

Yes. Their society had organization, moral codes and religious beliefs.

> So the missionaries had already well established themselves

> with the Swiss prior to WAP visiting.

Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

> Didn't the Swiss have one of the

> highest degeneration statistics?

Not on their native diet. The *average* tooth decay was slightly

higher than many of the other groups, though not nearly as high as the

agricultural African groups (who were not Christianized). But Price

noted that nearly every cavity was obtained during a trip out of the

village and showed evidence of inactivation upon return to the village

and resuming the native diet.

Even if they had a higher tooth decay rate on their native diet, how

would it affect the point? They were still one of the healthy groups

Price studied and still had organized religion, regardless of their

(low) tooth decay rate.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

Don't put all Christian's under this label. Biblically the death penalty is

Ok. Some Christians don't like that but it's in the old testament!

Allyn

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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: Re: RELIGION Oragnized Religion in Price's Groups (was

Religion, Homosexuality, Politics and Controversy- New)

Wanita,

> Mythology seems like it the last word today's organized religions would

want

> associated to their beliefs.

Similarly, I doubt that the Swiss or the Aborigines considered their

religious beliefs to be mythology.

> Is it the Australian aborigines the immorality

> quote is about?

Yes. Their society had organization, moral codes and religious beliefs.

> So the missionaries had already well established themselves

> with the Swiss prior to WAP visiting.

Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

> Didn't the Swiss have one of the

> highest degeneration statistics?

Not on their native diet. The *average* tooth decay was slightly

higher than many of the other groups, though not nearly as high as the

agricultural African groups (who were not Christianized). But Price

noted that nearly every cavity was obtained during a trip out of the

village and showed evidence of inactivation upon return to the village

and resuming the native diet.

Even if they had a higher tooth decay rate on their native diet, how

would it affect the point? They were still one of the healthy groups

Price studied and still had organized religion, regardless of their

(low) tooth decay rate.

Chris

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Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

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[Guest guest]

The old testament is a JEWISH text.

-Lovely

>

> Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

> of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

>

>

>

> Don't put all Christian's under this label. Biblically the death

penalty is

> Ok. Some Christians don't like that but it's in the old testament!

>

> Allyn

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Chris

Masterjohn

> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:44 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Re: RELIGION Oragnized Religion in Price's Groups

(was

> Religion, Homosexuality, Politics and Controversy- New)

>

>

>

> Wanita,

>

> > Mythology seems like it the last word today's organized religions

would

> want

> > associated to their beliefs.

>

> Similarly, I doubt that the Swiss or the Aborigines considered their

> religious beliefs to be mythology.

>

> > Is it the Australian aborigines the immorality

> > quote is about?

>

> Yes. Their society had organization, moral codes and religious

beliefs.

>

> > So the missionaries had already well established themselves

> > with the Swiss prior to WAP visiting.

>

> Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

> of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

>

> > Didn't the Swiss have one of the

> > highest degeneration statistics?

>

> Not on their native diet. The *average* tooth decay was slightly

> higher than many of the other groups, though not nearly as high as

the

> agricultural African groups (who were not Christianized). But Price

> noted that nearly every cavity was obtained during a trip out of the

> village and showed evidence of inactivation upon return to the

village

> and resuming the native diet.

>

> Even if they had a higher tooth decay rate on their native diet, how

> would it affect the point? They were still one of the healthy groups

> Price studied and still had organized religion, regardless of their

> (low) tooth decay rate.

>

> Chris

> --

> The Truth About Cholesterol

> Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

> http://www.choleste <http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com>

> rol-and-health.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 2/27/07, ALLYN FERRIS <aferris7272@...> wrote:

> Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

> of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

> Don't put all Christian's under this label. Biblically the death penalty is

> Ok. Some Christians don't like that but it's in the old testament!

I'm not labeling anyone. Historically, factually, Christian societies

have not made liberal use of the death penalty. Even in the most

conservative of American states, the death penalty is reserved for

heinous murders.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Yes, but Jesus was Jewish and he came to call the Isrealites back to God.

When the Jews shunned him God told to go to the Gentiles. When you

get into the Bible the Old Testament and New Testament fit together and the

Old Testament prophesies become clear. There are several administrations in

the Bible and the New Testament is the grace administration where we are

saved by grace not by works. The Old Testament was the law and was done

away with when Christ came which it states in the New Testament the law was

their schoolmaster until Christ. In the New Testament we are to live under

the law of love where the Old Testament was all by works. Anyway, there is

really nothing in the New Testament that says anything about the death

penalty but it is in the Old Testament. That does not mean we have to

follow the Old Testament but it does not outlaw it either.

Actually all the first Christians in the Bible were Jewish and all the

apostles including were Jewish until was told to take the gospel

to the Gentiles as I previously mentioned.

Allyn

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of lovely.ishtar

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:44 PM

Subject: Re: RELIGION Oragnized Religion in Price's Groups (was

Religion, Homosexuality, Politics and Controversy- New)

The old testament is a JEWISH text.

-Lovely

>

> Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

> of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

>

>

>

> Don't put all Christian's under this label. Biblically the death

penalty is

> Ok. Some Christians don't like that but it's in the old testament!

>

> Allyn

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: @ <mailto: %40>

> [mailto: @ <mailto: %40>

] On Behalf Of Chris

Masterjohn

> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:44 PM

> @ <mailto: %40>

> Subject: Re: Re: RELIGION Oragnized Religion in Price's Groups

(was

> Religion, Homosexuality, Politics and Controversy- New)

>

>

>

> Wanita,

>

> > Mythology seems like it the last word today's organized religions

would

> want

> > associated to their beliefs.

>

> Similarly, I doubt that the Swiss or the Aborigines considered their

> religious beliefs to be mythology.

>

> > Is it the Australian aborigines the immorality

> > quote is about?

>

> Yes. Their society had organization, moral codes and religious

beliefs.

>

> > So the missionaries had already well established themselves

> > with the Swiss prior to WAP visiting.

>

> Long before, which might be one reason they did not make liberal use

> of the death penalty, which is against Christian practice.

>

> > Didn't the Swiss have one of the

> > highest degeneration statistics?

>

> Not on their native diet. The *average* tooth decay was slightly

> higher than many of the other groups, though not nearly as high as

the

> agricultural African groups (who were not Christianized). But Price

> noted that nearly every cavity was obtained during a trip out of the

> village and showed evidence of inactivation upon return to the

village

> and resuming the native diet.

>

> Even if they had a higher tooth decay rate on their native diet, how

> would it affect the point? They were still one of the healthy groups

> Price studied and still had organized religion, regardless of their

> (low) tooth decay rate.

>

> Chris

> --

> The Truth About Cholesterol

> Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

> http://www.choleste <http://www.choleste

<http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com> rol-and-health.com>

> rol-and-health.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 2/27/07, allyn ferris <aferris7272@...> wrote:

> That does not mean we have to

> follow the Old Testament but it does not outlaw it either.

My only point was that Christian societies have made less liberal use

of the death penalty than many other societies, probably including the

Aborigines. There is no clear prohibition of the death penalty in the

Gospel, but most would take the command that " he who is without sin

cast the first stone " during the attempt to lawfully put a woman to

death according to the Old Testament death penalty law as an

overturning of the Old Testament use of the dealth penalty, for the

simple reason that no Christians would consider themselves without

sin. Have all Christian societies been free of the death penalty?

No. But they've generally been influenced by at least a significant

humanitarian contingent that has pressured against the use of the

death penalty, and I don't think it is a stretch to attribute that

influence to theological and ethical views contained within the New

Testament.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

>

> The old testament is a JEWISH text.

AND Christian...since Christ was a Jew and His followers are Christians...

[Guest guest]

lol...the O.T. was actually written in Hebrew, and the NT was Greek. And the

Lord was definitely Jewish. Part of Him at least on mother's side. The God part

of Him has no nationality, and for that I'm soooo glad.

It's Good to Be Saved!!!!

Re: Re: RELIGION Oragnized Religion in Price's Groups (was

Religion, Homosexuality, Politics and Controversy- New)

>

> The old testament is a JEWISH text.

AND Christian...since Christ was a Jew and His followers are Christians...