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Good question...I'd like to know too is anyone knows...

Thanks for asking Rosemary....

Carol

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> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomas are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbar mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary

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Good question...I'd like to know too is anyone knows...

Thanks for asking Rosemary....

Carol

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> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomas are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbar mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary

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Good question...I'd like to know too is anyone knows...

Thanks for asking Rosemary....

Carol

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> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomas are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbar mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary

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Rosemary - I have reacted to gadolinium last time (Oct 2000) My doctor

said he hates not to use it because it is so beneficial. I tried to talk

him out of it. But next year I will be given Prednison 12 hours in advance

of the MRI. So, if we do react, there are precautions that can be taken.

The first 13 years of my MRI life I never reacted to it. My body chemistry

keeps changing. I have had similar experiences with other drugs. I can

take them one month - six months later I reacted.

The gadolinium is used in about (seemingly) the last ten minutes of my

MRI scans.

Jane

Re: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

>Rosemary,

>The only thing that I know is that the gadolinium contrast tells the best

>story. Anything else I share your interest in the responses. Vicki

>

>

>

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Rosemary - I have reacted to gadolinium last time (Oct 2000) My doctor

said he hates not to use it because it is so beneficial. I tried to talk

him out of it. But next year I will be given Prednison 12 hours in advance

of the MRI. So, if we do react, there are precautions that can be taken.

The first 13 years of my MRI life I never reacted to it. My body chemistry

keeps changing. I have had similar experiences with other drugs. I can

take them one month - six months later I reacted.

The gadolinium is used in about (seemingly) the last ten minutes of my

MRI scans.

Jane

Re: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

>Rosemary,

>The only thing that I know is that the gadolinium contrast tells the best

>story. Anything else I share your interest in the responses. Vicki

>

>

>

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Rosemary - I have reacted to gadolinium last time (Oct 2000) My doctor

said he hates not to use it because it is so beneficial. I tried to talk

him out of it. But next year I will be given Prednison 12 hours in advance

of the MRI. So, if we do react, there are precautions that can be taken.

The first 13 years of my MRI life I never reacted to it. My body chemistry

keeps changing. I have had similar experiences with other drugs. I can

take them one month - six months later I reacted.

The gadolinium is used in about (seemingly) the last ten minutes of my

MRI scans.

Jane

Re: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

>Rosemary,

>The only thing that I know is that the gadolinium contrast tells the best

>story. Anything else I share your interest in the responses. Vicki

>

>

>

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Rosemary: I don't know anything about the spinal tumors, but I do know that

there are different MRI machines. My doctor in Seattle always has me get

mine up there instead of here in Olympia because it shows more -- and

they've even upgraded the MRI here in Olympia, so I'd say there definitely

is different " strengths " of the machines.

Charlotte

Subject: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomas

are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbar

mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary

>

>

>

>

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Rosemary: I don't know anything about the spinal tumors, but I do know that

there are different MRI machines. My doctor in Seattle always has me get

mine up there instead of here in Olympia because it shows more -- and

they've even upgraded the MRI here in Olympia, so I'd say there definitely

is different " strengths " of the machines.

Charlotte

Subject: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomas

are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbar

mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary

>

>

>

>

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Rosemary: I don't know anything about the spinal tumors, but I do know that

there are different MRI machines. My doctor in Seattle always has me get

mine up there instead of here in Olympia because it shows more -- and

they've even upgraded the MRI here in Olympia, so I'd say there definitely

is different " strengths " of the machines.

Charlotte

Subject: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomas

are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbar

mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary

>

>

>

>

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Rosemary, I recently had a full body MRI, I get them once a year and my neuro has had no problem keeping track of tumors present or not. I had three tumors removed from the spine, one in each portion, and so far, the spine is clean and m neruo has been able to keep a close watch to anything new that should grow there. WIth contrast, half way through the MRI, that helps to increase the ability to spot the tumor and according to the radiology reports, they are able to monitor the size of the existing tumors and to gauge the growth in mm's from scan to scan. I'm sure MRI's are perhaps different in ways when it comes to calibration and the best thing I could think of would be to contact Radiology at the hosp she'll be having the MRI for their assessment of what the MRI will and will not pick up.

Just my thoughts--

Greg

> DEAR CREW,>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both meningiomasare> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .>> Now is there a "definitive" approach to cervical, thoracic and lumbarmri's,> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering howdetailed> they make these mri's?>> rosemary>>>>

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> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

meningiomas are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

lumbar mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three sections

you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

lumbar section. Hollis

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> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

meningiomas are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

lumbar mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three sections

you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

lumbar section. Hollis

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> DEAR CREW,

>

> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

meningiomas are

> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>

> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

lumbar mri's,

> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>

> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>

> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

detailed

> they make these mri's?

>

> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three sections

you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

lumbar section. Hollis

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Jane,

I also have had trouble with gadolium and nauseous results that eventually

led to very violent projectile vomiting, hey no one would listen to my

protests of being very nauseous. Anyway, before that I had been sitting up

for the gadolium and told them this was far better, also the gad was

delivered much slower. They wouldn't have anything to do with this, they did

not want me to sit, I was already out of the machine, of course, they had

their reasons, but the result was all over the room, them,me, the MRI unit

and my husband who had been leaning over me trying to calm me. I couldn't

help it, I had to laugh, they were covered. ( I was releasing tension as

well I would guess). Anyway, the last 3 times now we have done the mri's

slow and with me in a sitting position during injection of gadolium and this

has really helped me during and after the MRI.

Sheryn

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> Rosemary - I have reacted to gadolinium last time (Oct 2000) My doctor

> said he hates not to use it because it is so beneficial. I tried to talk

> him out of it. But next year I will be given Prednison 12 hours in

advance

> of the MRI. So, if we do react, there are precautions that can be taken.

> The first 13 years of my MRI life I never reacted to it. My body

chemistry

> keeps changing. I have had similar experiences with other drugs. I can

> take them one month - six months later I reacted.

> The gadolinium is used in about (seemingly) the last ten minutes of my

> MRI scans.

>

>

>

>

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Jane,

I also have had trouble with gadolium and nauseous results that eventually

led to very violent projectile vomiting, hey no one would listen to my

protests of being very nauseous. Anyway, before that I had been sitting up

for the gadolium and told them this was far better, also the gad was

delivered much slower. They wouldn't have anything to do with this, they did

not want me to sit, I was already out of the machine, of course, they had

their reasons, but the result was all over the room, them,me, the MRI unit

and my husband who had been leaning over me trying to calm me. I couldn't

help it, I had to laugh, they were covered. ( I was releasing tension as

well I would guess). Anyway, the last 3 times now we have done the mri's

slow and with me in a sitting position during injection of gadolium and this

has really helped me during and after the MRI.

Sheryn

Subject: Re: SPINAL MRI- NEED HELP

> Rosemary - I have reacted to gadolinium last time (Oct 2000) My doctor

> said he hates not to use it because it is so beneficial. I tried to talk

> him out of it. But next year I will be given Prednison 12 hours in

advance

> of the MRI. So, if we do react, there are precautions that can be taken.

> The first 13 years of my MRI life I never reacted to it. My body

chemistry

> keeps changing. I have had similar experiences with other drugs. I can

> take them one month - six months later I reacted.

> The gadolinium is used in about (seemingly) the last ten minutes of my

> MRI scans.

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

3 hours !!!!!

Only spinal or brain as well?

Was this his first spinal?

Do you know the size sections they used? It is the distance between each

round of jack hammers. This is the all important question. Sometimes you

can tell from hard copies. If you don't know perhaps you could tell me where

you had this MRi and I could ask them what their desired specifications

are....Greg suggested contacting Rad and asking them, the problem in Aus.

is I have to tell them!!!!

rosemary.

on 14/1/01 3:40 AM, Hollis at northwood1mom@... wrote:

>

>> DEAR CREW,

>>

>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

> meningiomas are

>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>>

>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

> lumbar mri's,

>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>>

>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>>

>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

> detailed

>> they make these mri's?

>>

>> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

> took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three sections

> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

> lumbar section. Hollis

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

3 hours !!!!!

Only spinal or brain as well?

Was this his first spinal?

Do you know the size sections they used? It is the distance between each

round of jack hammers. This is the all important question. Sometimes you

can tell from hard copies. If you don't know perhaps you could tell me where

you had this MRi and I could ask them what their desired specifications

are....Greg suggested contacting Rad and asking them, the problem in Aus.

is I have to tell them!!!!

rosemary.

on 14/1/01 3:40 AM, Hollis at northwood1mom@... wrote:

>

>> DEAR CREW,

>>

>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

> meningiomas are

>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>>

>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

> lumbar mri's,

>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>>

>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>>

>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering how

> detailed

>> they make these mri's?

>>

>> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

> took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three sections

> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

> lumbar section. Hollis

>

>

>

>

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Hi Rosemary-

I also have a full spinal every year- it takes about 3 hours, maybe 2

and a half. I have one next Saturday! This is seperate from the brain

scan I have every 3-6 months they cant do them together bec it would

take too long.

TTYS- JJ

--------------------------------------------------------

> >> DEAR CREW,

> >>

> >> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

> > meningiomas are

> >> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

> >>

> >> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

> > lumbar mri's,

> >> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

> >>

> >> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

> >>

> >> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering

how

> > detailed

> >> they make these mri's?

> >>

> >> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

> > took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three

sections

> > you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

> > lumbar section. Hollis

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Jayne, (am I right?)

Thanks for answering. It seems 3 hours is the go for the definitive spinal.

BUT

Do you know how big the sections are eg. normal mris are done in about 5mm

sections, and vestibular mri's are done in 3mm.....I need to know this

because otherwise I am just going to be saying I need a mri that lasts about

3hours. It is not that easy in Australia, you are often dealing with

technicians/specialists who have never even heard of nf2.

Louis had a " full spinal " to rule out spinal tumors 6 months ago. It took

all of 20 minutes without contrast. Now you see my problem.

wondering if anyone has the technical specifics out there?

rosemary.

on 14/1/01 12:22 PM, JAJ521@... at JAJ521@...

wrote:

> Hi Rosemary-

> I also have a full spinal every year- it takes about 3 hours, maybe 2

> and a half. I have one next Saturday! This is seperate from the brain

> scan I have every 3-6 months they cant do them together bec it would

> take too long.

> TTYS- JJ

> --------------------------------------------------------

>

>>>> DEAR CREW,

>>>>

>>>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

>>> meningiomas are

>>>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>>>>

>>>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

>>> lumbar mri's,

>>>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>>>>

>>>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>>>>

>>>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering

> how

>>> detailed

>>>> they make these mri's?

>>>>

>>>> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

>>> took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three

> sections

>>> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

>>> lumbar section. Hollis

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jayne, (am I right?)

Thanks for answering. It seems 3 hours is the go for the definitive spinal.

BUT

Do you know how big the sections are eg. normal mris are done in about 5mm

sections, and vestibular mri's are done in 3mm.....I need to know this

because otherwise I am just going to be saying I need a mri that lasts about

3hours. It is not that easy in Australia, you are often dealing with

technicians/specialists who have never even heard of nf2.

Louis had a " full spinal " to rule out spinal tumors 6 months ago. It took

all of 20 minutes without contrast. Now you see my problem.

wondering if anyone has the technical specifics out there?

rosemary.

on 14/1/01 12:22 PM, JAJ521@... at JAJ521@...

wrote:

> Hi Rosemary-

> I also have a full spinal every year- it takes about 3 hours, maybe 2

> and a half. I have one next Saturday! This is seperate from the brain

> scan I have every 3-6 months they cant do them together bec it would

> take too long.

> TTYS- JJ

> --------------------------------------------------------

>

>>>> DEAR CREW,

>>>>

>>>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

>>> meningiomas are

>>>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>>>>

>>>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

>>> lumbar mri's,

>>>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>>>>

>>>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>>>>

>>>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering

> how

>>> detailed

>>>> they make these mri's?

>>>>

>>>> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

>>> took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three

> sections

>>> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

>>> lumbar section. Hollis

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jayne, (am I right?)

Thanks for answering. It seems 3 hours is the go for the definitive spinal.

BUT

Do you know how big the sections are eg. normal mris are done in about 5mm

sections, and vestibular mri's are done in 3mm.....I need to know this

because otherwise I am just going to be saying I need a mri that lasts about

3hours. It is not that easy in Australia, you are often dealing with

technicians/specialists who have never even heard of nf2.

Louis had a " full spinal " to rule out spinal tumors 6 months ago. It took

all of 20 minutes without contrast. Now you see my problem.

wondering if anyone has the technical specifics out there?

rosemary.

on 14/1/01 12:22 PM, JAJ521@... at JAJ521@...

wrote:

> Hi Rosemary-

> I also have a full spinal every year- it takes about 3 hours, maybe 2

> and a half. I have one next Saturday! This is seperate from the brain

> scan I have every 3-6 months they cant do them together bec it would

> take too long.

> TTYS- JJ

> --------------------------------------------------------

>

>>>> DEAR CREW,

>>>>

>>>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

>>> meningiomas are

>>>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

>>>>

>>>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

>>> lumbar mri's,

>>>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

>>>>

>>>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

>>>>

>>>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering

> how

>>> detailed

>>>> they make these mri's?

>>>>

>>>> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

>>> took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three

> sections

>>> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

>>> lumbar section. Hollis

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

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I wonder if maybe it shouldn't take quite as long (3 hours) in children

because they are smaller. Not as much area to cover as in an adult. I

don't think it took Nick 3 hours, though we were there a long time by the

time they got an IV in him, sedated him, etc. Then he woke up halfway

through and sat up because he needed more sedation.

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> Hi Jayne, (am I right?)

>

> Thanks for answering. It seems 3 hours is the go for the definitive

spinal.

> BUT

> Do you know how big the sections are eg. normal mris are done in about 5mm

> sections, and vestibular mri's are done in 3mm.....I need to know this

> because otherwise I am just going to be saying I need a mri that lasts

about

> 3hours. It is not that easy in Australia, you are often dealing with

> technicians/specialists who have never even heard of nf2.

>

>

> Louis had a " full spinal " to rule out spinal tumors 6 months ago. It

took

> all of 20 minutes without contrast. Now you see my problem.

>

> wondering if anyone has the technical specifics out there?

> rosemary.

>

>

> on 14/1/01 12:22 PM, JAJ521@... at JAJ521@...

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Rosemary-

> > I also have a full spinal every year- it takes about 3 hours, maybe 2

> > and a half. I have one next Saturday! This is seperate from the brain

> > scan I have every 3-6 months they cant do them together bec it would

> > take too long.

> > TTYS- JJ

> > --------------------------------------------------------

> >

> >>>> DEAR CREW,

> >>>>

> >>>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

> >>> meningiomas are

> >>>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

> >>>>

> >>>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

> >>> lumbar mri's,

> >>>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

> >>>>

> >>>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

> >>>>

> >>>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering

> > how

> >>> detailed

> >>>> they make these mri's?

> >>>>

> >>>> rosemary My son just had what they called full spinal mri, it

> >>> took about 3 hours and I think it was divided in the three

> > sections

> >>> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

> >>> lumbar section. Hollis

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I wonder if maybe it shouldn't take quite as long (3 hours) in children

because they are smaller. Not as much area to cover as in an adult. I

don't think it took Nick 3 hours, though we were there a long time by the

time they got an IV in him, sedated him, etc. Then he woke up halfway

through and sat up because he needed more sedation.

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> Hi Jayne, (am I right?)

>

> Thanks for answering. It seems 3 hours is the go for the definitive

spinal.

> BUT

> Do you know how big the sections are eg. normal mris are done in about 5mm

> sections, and vestibular mri's are done in 3mm.....I need to know this

> because otherwise I am just going to be saying I need a mri that lasts

about

> 3hours. It is not that easy in Australia, you are often dealing with

> technicians/specialists who have never even heard of nf2.

>

>

> Louis had a " full spinal " to rule out spinal tumors 6 months ago. It

took

> all of 20 minutes without contrast. Now you see my problem.

>

> wondering if anyone has the technical specifics out there?

> rosemary.

>

>

> on 14/1/01 12:22 PM, JAJ521@... at JAJ521@...

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Rosemary-

> > I also have a full spinal every year- it takes about 3 hours, maybe 2

> > and a half. I have one next Saturday! This is seperate from the brain

> > scan I have every 3-6 months they cant do them together bec it would

> > take too long.

> > TTYS- JJ

> > --------------------------------------------------------

> >

> >>>> DEAR CREW,

> >>>>

> >>>> Louis is due to have MRi's in two weeks to check that both

> >>> meningiomas are

> >>>> completely excised, and he is also due to have a spinal mri .

> >>>>

> >>>> Now is there a " definitive " approach to cervical, thoracic and

> >>> lumbar mri's,

> >>>> like there is for vestibular schwannomas??

> >>>>

> >>>> Do they have to be done in small sections like 3mm?

> >>>>

> >>>> I understand that they can miss small tumors, so I'm wondering

> > how

> >>> detailed

> >>>> they make these mri's?

> >>>>

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> >>> you mentioned. A tumor (small lesion) they say was found in the

> >>> lumbar section. Hollis

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