Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Would anyone be willing to share productivity data with me for Outpatient Ortho? I'm just starting to calculate thses figures and am dividing hours worked by units charged on a monthly basis. I know past posts have suggested a target of 85% utiliztion but this seems a bit high to me. Any replies, here or private to joer189@... would be appreciated. Thanks! massage therapy For those of you who have massage therapists working with you in an inpatient setting...is there a credentialing process that the CMT has to go through in order to touch patients...or is the CMT enough that it is allowed. We will not be billing insurance companies so this doesn't have to do with insurance coverage. Just an extra service to make patients feel better. Thanks for any information that you can provide! Rosemarie Rosemarie Holliday, MS, OTR/L Director of Therapy Services Delano Regional Medical Center 1205 Garces Highway, Ste. 305 Delano, CA 93125 fax NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in error, please do not forward or use this information in any way. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option or by telephone at the number listed. Thank you. Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. Bring PTManager to your organization or State Association with a professional workshop or course - call us at 313 884-8920 to arrange PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Kathy I read your post and was unclear as to the math model you are analyzing in your example. 218.5 hours = .61 Productivity 358 units In this model, if the clinician bills more units in the same # of hours, the productivity number would decrease, rather than result in an expected increase in " productivity " (more billable units per hour). Rather, I believe the equation should be interpreted inversely 358 units = 1.64 units per hour (which seems pretty poor)is the Productivity Ratio 218.5 hours I realize this does not answer the question in your post, but the firm's model suggests a LOWER the productivity number suggests GREATER productivity .. . that is certainly confusing. For example, in order to achieve a lower productivity number in the firm's model, the hours to produce the same number of billable units would be smaller and therefore yield 2.56 units per hour. This ratio is more appealing to me (and more productive) than 1.64 units per hour 139.6 hours = .39 Productivity 358 units I would suggest clarifying the math with the firm first, and then attempt to analyze their results. I would submit that an outpatient facility should average between 3 - 4 units per hour. The range depends upon cancellation rates, staff size (FTE) number of unattended procedure codes billed, and number of 1:1 procedure codes billed. Best of luck Witt, PT Delray Beach, FL Productivity I am looking for benchmarking or productivity standards based on # units charged (based on CPT codes)/ hours worked. i.e. 358 units charged / 218.5 hours worked = .61 productivity (if the CPT code is untimed, only one unit of service is used) We were given benchmarks last year by an outside auditing firm (Navigant) of: ..51 for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services combined ..67 for outpatient Sports Medicine department ..97 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Speech services combined ..39 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Occupational services combined When asked where these benchmarks came from and how they were determined we were told they couldn't give us that infomation. But we were told these were appropriate benchmarks based on data from similiar types of hospitals across the country. We are a 350 bed hospital with a 39 bed rehab unit. When asked why the the numbers where so different for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services and Sports Medicine they did not have an answer, except that they did not have much data on outpatient only departments. When asked why PT and OT were so different, it was because PT did more lifting and transfers than OT. We have been having trouble meeting these standards, especially in OT and ST. I am looking for others benchmarks that they use and if anyone has been given similiar benchmarking from these group. Any information would be appreciated. Kathy berger, PT Manager of Physical Therapy Services Mercy Medical Center Canton, Ohio Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi Kathy, When we look at our productivity we include time spent in procedure based interventions so it's difficult to compare my numbers with yours for benchmarking purposes. ly, it seems unreasonable to consider an evaluation to be only 1 unit with equal weight to 15 minutes of gait training. For our purposes we look at total 15 minute units of face to face contact with patients divided by hours worked. Our productivity using this methodology is Acute PT: .620 Acute OT: .545 Acute SP: .527 OP PT: .634 OP OT: .560 OP SP: .613 Redge L MS OTR/L Director of Rehabilitation Services on Hospital Bremerton, WA 98310 Administrative Assistant: Wanda Kotte: wandakotte@... >>> kathy.smithberger@... 08/19/05 12:16 PM >>> I am looking for benchmarking or productivity standards based on # units charged (based on CPT codes)/ hours worked. i.e. 358 units charged / 218.5 hours worked = .61 productivity (if the CPT code is untimed, only one unit of service is used) We were given benchmarks last year by an outside auditing firm (Navigant) of: ..51 for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services combined ..67 for outpatient Sports Medicine department ..97 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Speech services combined ..39 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Occupational services combined When asked where these benchmarks came from and how they were determined we were told they couldn't give us that infomation. But we were told these were appropriate benchmarks based on data from similiar types of hospitals across the country. We are a 350 bed hospital with a 39 bed rehab unit. When asked why the the numbers where so different for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services and Sports Medicine they did not have an answer, except that they did not have much data on outpatient only departments. When asked why PT and OT were so different, it was because PT did more lifting and transfers than OT. We have been having trouble meeting these standards, especially in OT and ST. I am looking for others benchmarks that they use and if anyone has been given similiar benchmarking from these group. Any information would be appreciated. Kathy berger, PT Manager of Physical Therapy Services Mercy Medical Center Canton, Ohio Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi Kathy, When we look at our productivity we include time spent in procedure based interventions so it's difficult to compare my numbers with yours for benchmarking purposes. ly, it seems unreasonable to consider an evaluation to be only 1 unit with equal weight to 15 minutes of gait training. For our purposes we look at total 15 minute units of face to face contact with patients divided by hours worked. Our productivity using this methodology is Acute PT: .620 Acute OT: .545 Acute SP: .527 OP PT: .634 OP OT: .560 OP SP: .613 Redge L MS OTR/L Director of Rehabilitation Services on Hospital Bremerton, WA 98310 Administrative Assistant: Wanda Kotte: wandakotte@... >>> kathy.smithberger@... 08/19/05 12:16 PM >>> I am looking for benchmarking or productivity standards based on # units charged (based on CPT codes)/ hours worked. i.e. 358 units charged / 218.5 hours worked = .61 productivity (if the CPT code is untimed, only one unit of service is used) We were given benchmarks last year by an outside auditing firm (Navigant) of: ..51 for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services combined ..67 for outpatient Sports Medicine department ..97 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Speech services combined ..39 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Occupational services combined When asked where these benchmarks came from and how they were determined we were told they couldn't give us that infomation. But we were told these were appropriate benchmarks based on data from similiar types of hospitals across the country. We are a 350 bed hospital with a 39 bed rehab unit. When asked why the the numbers where so different for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services and Sports Medicine they did not have an answer, except that they did not have much data on outpatient only departments. When asked why PT and OT were so different, it was because PT did more lifting and transfers than OT. We have been having trouble meeting these standards, especially in OT and ST. I am looking for others benchmarks that they use and if anyone has been given similiar benchmarking from these group. Any information would be appreciated. Kathy berger, PT Manager of Physical Therapy Services Mercy Medical Center Canton, Ohio Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi Kathy, When we look at our productivity we include time spent in procedure based interventions so it's difficult to compare my numbers with yours for benchmarking purposes. ly, it seems unreasonable to consider an evaluation to be only 1 unit with equal weight to 15 minutes of gait training. For our purposes we look at total 15 minute units of face to face contact with patients divided by hours worked. Our productivity using this methodology is Acute PT: .620 Acute OT: .545 Acute SP: .527 OP PT: .634 OP OT: .560 OP SP: .613 Redge L MS OTR/L Director of Rehabilitation Services on Hospital Bremerton, WA 98310 Administrative Assistant: Wanda Kotte: wandakotte@... >>> kathy.smithberger@... 08/19/05 12:16 PM >>> I am looking for benchmarking or productivity standards based on # units charged (based on CPT codes)/ hours worked. i.e. 358 units charged / 218.5 hours worked = .61 productivity (if the CPT code is untimed, only one unit of service is used) We were given benchmarks last year by an outside auditing firm (Navigant) of: ..51 for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services combined ..67 for outpatient Sports Medicine department ..97 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Speech services combined ..39 for acute care/rehab and outpatient Occupational services combined When asked where these benchmarks came from and how they were determined we were told they couldn't give us that infomation. But we were told these were appropriate benchmarks based on data from similiar types of hospitals across the country. We are a 350 bed hospital with a 39 bed rehab unit. When asked why the the numbers where so different for acute care/rehab and outpatient PT services and Sports Medicine they did not have an answer, except that they did not have much data on outpatient only departments. When asked why PT and OT were so different, it was because PT did more lifting and transfers than OT. We have been having trouble meeting these standards, especially in OT and ST. I am looking for others benchmarks that they use and if anyone has been given similiar benchmarking from these group. Any information would be appreciated. Kathy berger, PT Manager of Physical Therapy Services Mercy Medical Center Canton, Ohio Looking to start your own Practice? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join and participate now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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