Re: Goitrogens, is there a way to eat them and still be 'good'

[Guest guest]

Or do what I do.. multi-dose... the stuff affects what is in the blood stream at the time... if you dose again later you will compensate for what was affected at the time. If you eat the stuff toward the end of the dosage cycle. Only minimal hormone will be lost.. and your system is replenished with that next dose.

I think it makes a difference, too, to consume small amounts... allow the body to totally process the food, with no excesses... if the body, for lack of a better term, sucks it all up.. there will be less to mess up the thyroid hormones..

My thoughts....

Comments?

I think this is something that we need to delve in to... it's a lot of food that is not only healthy for the 'normal' human body, but tasty for many of us... there has to be a way to still be able to consume some of this stuff without causing it to mess up our thyroid hormones to the point of leaning hypo or having to do major adjustments to dosages....

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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:56:15 -0500 " " writes:

OMG, ya know, I might as well just die now, with all of this list. Holycow, I may as well stop eating because so so many of these foods are theones I like.

[Guest guest]

I think we're talking about large amts of these foods that are eaten almost every single day for a long period of time, and what I think happens is that the substances in these foods that make them goitrogenic, more than likely "stand at the door" of the cell, blocking the receiving of the thyroid hormone. If it was simple digestive blockage, all we'd have to do is take the thyroid one hr before or around 2 hrs after meals, but this is not the case, as with soy or estrogens. It is not a mechanical digestive problem, rather a long term chemistry problem, with these sorts of things. I guess that, essentially, whatever it was that we were doing wrong with the eating, has changed our body chemistry, literally, if we can even hold any of these foods responsible for this.

Re: Goitrogens, is there a way to eat them and still be 'good'

Or do what I do.. multi-dose... the stuff affects what is in the blood stream at the time... if you dose again later you will compensate for what was affected at the time. If you eat the stuff toward the end of the dosage cycle. Only minimal hormone will be lost.. and your system is replenished with that next dose.

I think it makes a difference, too, to consume small amounts... allow the body to totally process the food, with no excesses... if the body, for lack of a better term, sucks it all up.. there will be less to mess up the thyroid hormones..

My thoughts....

Comments?

I think this is something that we need to delve in to... it's a lot of food that is not only healthy for the 'normal' human body, but tasty for many of us... there has to be a way to still be able to consume some of this stuff without causing it to mess up our thyroid hormones to the point of leaning hypo or having to do major adjustments to dosages....

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

I think we're talking about large amts of these foods that are eaten almost every single day for a long period of time, and what I think happens is that the substances in these foods that make them goitrogenic, more than likely "stand at the door" of the cell, blocking the receiving of the thyroid hormone. If it was simple digestive blockage, all we'd have to do is take the thyroid one hr before or around 2 hrs after meals, but this is not the case, as with soy or estrogens. It is not a mechanical digestive problem, rather a long term chemistry problem, with these sorts of things. I guess that, essentially, whatever it was that we were doing wrong with the eating, has changed our body chemistry, literally, if we can even hold any of these foods responsible for this.

Re: Goitrogens, is there a way to eat them and still be 'good'

Or do what I do.. multi-dose... the stuff affects what is in the blood stream at the time... if you dose again later you will compensate for what was affected at the time. If you eat the stuff toward the end of the dosage cycle. Only minimal hormone will be lost.. and your system is replenished with that next dose.

I think it makes a difference, too, to consume small amounts... allow the body to totally process the food, with no excesses... if the body, for lack of a better term, sucks it all up.. there will be less to mess up the thyroid hormones..

My thoughts....

Comments?

I think this is something that we need to delve in to... it's a lot of food that is not only healthy for the 'normal' human body, but tasty for many of us... there has to be a way to still be able to consume some of this stuff without causing it to mess up our thyroid hormones to the point of leaning hypo or having to do major adjustments to dosages....

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

I think we're talking about large amts of these foods that are eaten almost every single day for a long period of time, and what I think happens is that the substances in these foods that make them goitrogenic, more than likely "stand at the door" of the cell, blocking the receiving of the thyroid hormone. If it was simple digestive blockage, all we'd have to do is take the thyroid one hr before or around 2 hrs after meals, but this is not the case, as with soy or estrogens. It is not a mechanical digestive problem, rather a long term chemistry problem, with these sorts of things. I guess that, essentially, whatever it was that we were doing wrong with the eating, has changed our body chemistry, literally, if we can even hold any of these foods responsible for this.

Re: Goitrogens, is there a way to eat them and still be 'good'

Or do what I do.. multi-dose... the stuff affects what is in the blood stream at the time... if you dose again later you will compensate for what was affected at the time. If you eat the stuff toward the end of the dosage cycle. Only minimal hormone will be lost.. and your system is replenished with that next dose.

I think it makes a difference, too, to consume small amounts... allow the body to totally process the food, with no excesses... if the body, for lack of a better term, sucks it all up.. there will be less to mess up the thyroid hormones..

My thoughts....

Comments?

I think this is something that we need to delve in to... it's a lot of food that is not only healthy for the 'normal' human body, but tasty for many of us... there has to be a way to still be able to consume some of this stuff without causing it to mess up our thyroid hormones to the point of leaning hypo or having to do major adjustments to dosages....

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Cooking goitergens drops their goitergenicity to around one quarter

or less of what they were. Soaking nuts first also reduces their

goitergenicity significantly. I don't think eating these foods in a

well rounded varied diet is a problem, unless you are on Synthroid.

Many have vitamins and nutrients that would offset their drawbacks.

Nuts contain fatty acid and trace elements like selenium and copper.

Cabbages contian substances that protect against cancer and help the

body safely clear estrogens, not to mention many are high in

magnesium and other important nutrients. Sulfer compounds found in

cabbage help the body clear heavy metals.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Cooking goitergens drops their goitergenicity to around one quarter

or less of what they were. Soaking nuts first also reduces their

goitergenicity significantly. I don't think eating these foods in a

well rounded varied diet is a problem, unless you are on Synthroid.

Many have vitamins and nutrients that would offset their drawbacks.

Nuts contain fatty acid and trace elements like selenium and copper.

Cabbages contian substances that protect against cancer and help the

body safely clear estrogens, not to mention many are high in

magnesium and other important nutrients. Sulfer compounds found in

cabbage help the body clear heavy metals.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Cooking goitergens drops their goitergenicity to around one quarter

or less of what they were. Soaking nuts first also reduces their

goitergenicity significantly. I don't think eating these foods in a

well rounded varied diet is a problem, unless you are on Synthroid.

Many have vitamins and nutrients that would offset their drawbacks.

Nuts contain fatty acid and trace elements like selenium and copper.

Cabbages contian substances that protect against cancer and help the

body safely clear estrogens, not to mention many are high in

magnesium and other important nutrients. Sulfer compounds found in

cabbage help the body clear heavy metals.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Okay.. that does make sense... if it were an immediate - short term thing.. it would be far more obvious to a lot of folks... Cause and effect....

Hmmm... gots to do some pondering on this.....

Topper ()

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 11:37:13 -0500 " " writes:

I think we're talking about large amts of these foods that are eaten almost every single day for a long period of time, and what I think happens is that the substances in these foods that make them goitrogenic, more than likely "stand at the door" of the cell, blocking the receiving of the thyroid hormone. If it was simple digestive blockage, all we'd have to do is take the thyroid one hr before or around 2 hrs after meals, but this is not the case, as with soy or estrogens. It is not a mechanical digestive problem, rather a long term chemistry problem, with these sorts of things. I guess that, essentially, whatever it was that we were doing wrong with the eating, has changed our body chemistry, literally, if we can even hold any of these foods responsible for this.