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My oldest hadn't lived with me since he was 15 and I

was so busy with the girls then it didn't hit me too

hard. He had his father's temper and he went to live

with some friends of mine from our church who were

better able to handle his temper than I was.

I have a feeling it will hit me big time when the

girls leave. We are busy 7 out of 12 months of the

year every weekend for swim meets or wrestling meets,

etc....I think it would be fun for a while, extra

camping trips, etc....but after a while I know it's

going to kill me inside not to have all those events

to look forward to...and I don't wanna wait for

grandchildren to do it! I wanna do it from now till

I'm 100!

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> You might be on to something. This empty nest

> stinks. I looked

> forward to it for so long and now that I have it I

> hate it. This

> house is too quiet. How much laundry can you do and

> TV can you watch

> anyway?

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> > > > > > > > My ob/gyn did that CD3 test on me, I

> had

> > > blood

> > > > > > > drawn

> > > > > > > > on Sunday and they just called me with

> the

> > > > > > > results....

> > > > > > > > a 4.9! Anything under 15 is really

> good,

> > > they

> > > > > say

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have plenty of follicles! woo hoo!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With DH changing jobs he'll have over

> 200

> > > > > hours of

> > > > > > > > vacation pay coming and with cashing

> in

> > > his

> > > > > 401K

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > possible we may be able to get this

> done

> > > in

> > > > > > > January if

> > > > > > > > Dr L has time in his schedule!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > J

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > > > > >

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My oldest hadn't lived with me since he was 15 and I

was so busy with the girls then it didn't hit me too

hard. He had his father's temper and he went to live

with some friends of mine from our church who were

better able to handle his temper than I was.

I have a feeling it will hit me big time when the

girls leave. We are busy 7 out of 12 months of the

year every weekend for swim meets or wrestling meets,

etc....I think it would be fun for a while, extra

camping trips, etc....but after a while I know it's

going to kill me inside not to have all those events

to look forward to...and I don't wanna wait for

grandchildren to do it! I wanna do it from now till

I'm 100!

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> You might be on to something. This empty nest

> stinks. I looked

> forward to it for so long and now that I have it I

> hate it. This

> house is too quiet. How much laundry can you do and

> TV can you watch

> anyway?

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> > > > > > > > My ob/gyn did that CD3 test on me, I

> had

> > > blood

> > > > > > > drawn

> > > > > > > > on Sunday and they just called me with

> the

> > > > > > > results....

> > > > > > > > a 4.9! Anything under 15 is really

> good,

> > > they

> > > > > say

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have plenty of follicles! woo hoo!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With DH changing jobs he'll have over

> 200

> > > > > hours of

> > > > > > > > vacation pay coming and with cashing

> in

> > > his

> > > > > 401K

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > possible we may be able to get this

> done

> > > in

> > > > > > > January if

> > > > > > > > Dr L has time in his schedule!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > J

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > > > > >

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's kids with his ex were all large, I am hoping

that was because of the ex and not him. lol. 8 lbs 6

oz tore me upward and those stitches hurt.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> I love the ouch.

> Yes she was.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> -- - In TubalLigationReversal@y..., &

>

> <lorak2000@y...> wrote:

> > Ouch. Was she born naturally?

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's kids with his ex were all large, I am hoping

that was because of the ex and not him. lol. 8 lbs 6

oz tore me upward and those stitches hurt.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> I love the ouch.

> Yes she was.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> -- - In TubalLigationReversal@y..., &

>

> <lorak2000@y...> wrote:

> > Ouch. Was she born naturally?

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's kids with his ex were all large, I am hoping

that was because of the ex and not him. lol. 8 lbs 6

oz tore me upward and those stitches hurt.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> I love the ouch.

> Yes she was.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> -- - In TubalLigationReversal@y..., &

>

> <lorak2000@y...> wrote:

> > Ouch. Was she born naturally?

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My oldest was born 10lb 2 oz and my youngest was 8lbs 14oz(they took her 2 weeks

early so she wouldn't get any bigger) and no, neither of them were delivered

naturally.

in MI :)

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Ouch. Was she born naturally?

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> My smallest was 8 5. My biggest was 9 10. That

> was Juna she

> looked like an indian papoose. She had a head full

> of jet black hair

> and very red skin. The women I shard a room with

> had a 4 pound

> baby. Juna made two of her. The first time I tried

> to pick her up

> it took me two tries to get her off the bed. My

> arms were still sore

> from labor. The first time I took her to church the

> people didn't

> believe that it was my baby. She didn't look small

> enough to be a

> newborn.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> > > ,

> > > What was the weight of her other babies?

> > > Hugs,

> > > Dorene

> >

> >

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My oldest was born 10lb 2 oz and my youngest was 8lbs 14oz(they took her 2 weeks

early so she wouldn't get any bigger) and no, neither of them were delivered

naturally.

in MI :)

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Ouch. Was she born naturally?

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> My smallest was 8 5. My biggest was 9 10. That

> was Juna she

> looked like an indian papoose. She had a head full

> of jet black hair

> and very red skin. The women I shard a room with

> had a 4 pound

> baby. Juna made two of her. The first time I tried

> to pick her up

> it took me two tries to get her off the bed. My

> arms were still sore

> from labor. The first time I took her to church the

> people didn't

> believe that it was my baby. She didn't look small

> enough to be a

> newborn.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

> > > ,

> > > What was the weight of her other babies?

> > > Hugs,

> > > Dorene

> >

> >

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Oh I know what you mean. There are tons of parents at

's pee-wee baseball (cuz the little ones are so

cute when they run the wrong way around the bases?)

but hardly any at Betsy's " big stars " baseball. And

the ones who are there act like losing would be worse

than death. What kind of example is that to set? The

big boys baseball packs the bleachers, I'm not sure

why the girls don't.

Wrestling is pretty family oriented. There was one

high school girl, also named , Katrina actually,

whose parents never came to a meet (even on Sunday

meets!). We videotaped her matches, hoping that when

her parents watched the tape, they'd take more of an

interest. No go. So sad...so we've adopted her...we

call her our " other " . lol.

My just told me now she wants to take piano

lessons, so I've got to make some calls on that today.

She also wants to play football. Now I've allowed

the wrestling, but am a little more hesitant on

football. We'll see. The wrestling coaches daughter

(Paige) who is 's hero, plays football.

We'll see....

I've never missed any of the kids' stuff, even if I

had migraines like I used to all the time, I'd just

load up on drugs and go...I can't imagine any other

way. 's ex used sports for a babysitter. She

sent her kids all over but never attended one game.

:-(

Better get to work, TTYL!

--- loveitingh wrote:

> laura,

> Your kids are so blessed that you are so involved

> in their lives.

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Oh I know what you mean. There are tons of parents at

's pee-wee baseball (cuz the little ones are so

cute when they run the wrong way around the bases?)

but hardly any at Betsy's " big stars " baseball. And

the ones who are there act like losing would be worse

than death. What kind of example is that to set? The

big boys baseball packs the bleachers, I'm not sure

why the girls don't.

Wrestling is pretty family oriented. There was one

high school girl, also named , Katrina actually,

whose parents never came to a meet (even on Sunday

meets!). We videotaped her matches, hoping that when

her parents watched the tape, they'd take more of an

interest. No go. So sad...so we've adopted her...we

call her our " other " . lol.

My just told me now she wants to take piano

lessons, so I've got to make some calls on that today.

She also wants to play football. Now I've allowed

the wrestling, but am a little more hesitant on

football. We'll see. The wrestling coaches daughter

(Paige) who is 's hero, plays football.

We'll see....

I've never missed any of the kids' stuff, even if I

had migraines like I used to all the time, I'd just

load up on drugs and go...I can't imagine any other

way. 's ex used sports for a babysitter. She

sent her kids all over but never attended one game.

:-(

Better get to work, TTYL!

--- loveitingh wrote:

> laura,

> Your kids are so blessed that you are so involved

> in their lives.

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Oh I know what you mean. There are tons of parents at

's pee-wee baseball (cuz the little ones are so

cute when they run the wrong way around the bases?)

but hardly any at Betsy's " big stars " baseball. And

the ones who are there act like losing would be worse

than death. What kind of example is that to set? The

big boys baseball packs the bleachers, I'm not sure

why the girls don't.

Wrestling is pretty family oriented. There was one

high school girl, also named , Katrina actually,

whose parents never came to a meet (even on Sunday

meets!). We videotaped her matches, hoping that when

her parents watched the tape, they'd take more of an

interest. No go. So sad...so we've adopted her...we

call her our " other " . lol.

My just told me now she wants to take piano

lessons, so I've got to make some calls on that today.

She also wants to play football. Now I've allowed

the wrestling, but am a little more hesitant on

football. We'll see. The wrestling coaches daughter

(Paige) who is 's hero, plays football.

We'll see....

I've never missed any of the kids' stuff, even if I

had migraines like I used to all the time, I'd just

load up on drugs and go...I can't imagine any other

way. 's ex used sports for a babysitter. She

sent her kids all over but never attended one game.

:-(

Better get to work, TTYL!

--- loveitingh wrote:

> laura,

> Your kids are so blessed that you are so involved

> in their lives.

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My guess is that you'll sleep like a baby tonight.

Church is good for that, helping you relax....just

reaffirming that God's shoulders are huge and that He

will take care of us.

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My guess is that you'll sleep like a baby tonight.

Church is good for that, helping you relax....just

reaffirming that God's shoulders are huge and that He

will take care of us.

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I must have had my webcam on by mistake.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> I could see you sticking your tongue at me with

> you thumbs in your

> ears and your hands in the air saying NaNaNaNa. I

> told you so. With

> a rasberry added for extra effect.

> Well if you want me to tell you, you were right

> here it goes. YOU

> WERE RIGHT!!!!

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I must have had my webcam on by mistake.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> I could see you sticking your tongue at me with

> you thumbs in your

> ears and your hands in the air saying NaNaNaNa. I

> told you so. With

> a rasberry added for extra effect.

> Well if you want me to tell you, you were right

> here it goes. YOU

> WERE RIGHT!!!!

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I must have had my webcam on by mistake.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> I could see you sticking your tongue at me with

> you thumbs in your

> ears and your hands in the air saying NaNaNaNa. I

> told you so. With

> a rasberry added for extra effect.

> Well if you want me to tell you, you were right

> here it goes. YOU

> WERE RIGHT!!!!

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It's always my cheeks (face) that start to hurt first.

I wonder why? Flabby cheek muscles? now don't

laugh, I'm not talking about the butt cheeks! I KNOW

them are flabby.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> No fair. You've got me laughing so hard my stomach

> and my jaws are

> both hurting.

> Hugs,

> Dorene-

> -- In TubalLigationReversal@y..., &

>

> <lorak2000@y...> wrote:

> > I must have had my webcam on by mistake.

> > --- loveitingh <loveitingh@y...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > > I could see you sticking your tongue at me

> with

> > > you thumbs in your

> > > ears and your hands in the air saying NaNaNaNa.

> I

> > > told you so. With

> > > a rasberry added for extra effect.

> > > Well if you want me to tell you, you were

> right

> > > here it goes. YOU

> > > WERE RIGHT!!!!

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It's always my cheeks (face) that start to hurt first.

I wonder why? Flabby cheek muscles? now don't

laugh, I'm not talking about the butt cheeks! I KNOW

them are flabby.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> No fair. You've got me laughing so hard my stomach

> and my jaws are

> both hurting.

> Hugs,

> Dorene-

> -- In TubalLigationReversal@y..., &

>

> <lorak2000@y...> wrote:

> > I must have had my webcam on by mistake.

> > --- loveitingh <loveitingh@y...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > > I could see you sticking your tongue at me

> with

> > > you thumbs in your

> > > ears and your hands in the air saying NaNaNaNa.

> I

> > > told you so. With

> > > a rasberry added for extra effect.

> > > Well if you want me to tell you, you were

> right

> > > here it goes. YOU

> > > WERE RIGHT!!!!

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It's always my cheeks (face) that start to hurt first.

I wonder why? Flabby cheek muscles? now don't

laugh, I'm not talking about the butt cheeks! I KNOW

them are flabby.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> ,

> No fair. You've got me laughing so hard my stomach

> and my jaws are

> both hurting.

> Hugs,

> Dorene-

> -- In TubalLigationReversal@y..., &

>

> <lorak2000@y...> wrote:

> > I must have had my webcam on by mistake.

> > --- loveitingh <loveitingh@y...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > > I could see you sticking your tongue at me

> with

> > > you thumbs in your

> > > ears and your hands in the air saying NaNaNaNa.

> I

> > > told you so. With

> > > a rasberry added for extra effect.

> > > Well if you want me to tell you, you were

> right

> > > here it goes. YOU

> > > WERE RIGHT!!!!

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Glad your class went well last night.

Do you have it again this weekend?

I can't wait to leave tomorrow morning, camping and

seeing the Minnesota Twins is gonna be such a blast!

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Glad your class went well last night.

Do you have it again this weekend?

I can't wait to leave tomorrow morning, camping and

seeing the Minnesota Twins is gonna be such a blast!

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Glad your class went well last night.

Do you have it again this weekend?

I can't wait to leave tomorrow morning, camping and

seeing the Minnesota Twins is gonna be such a blast!

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Dorene,

That is sooo sweet! I just have to tell you this

story.

When I was little we had a non-profit life ins co that

we were members of...they had a meeting once a month

and gave our prizes. The prize was a radio..I already

had one...well I won, so I gave it away to the only

other little girl there who was just visiting.

Not too long after that I received a brand new

Monopoly game (love it to this day) with the following

poem written on it:

There is a destiny that makes us brothers,

None goes his way alone.

All that we send into the lives of others,

Comes back into our own.

I still cry when I think of this. You sure are a

sweetie and a blessing to us all.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> April,

> What are your kids ages and what grades are they

> going into?

> I am so happy to be able to do something for you.

> Most of my kids

> school clothes came from yard sales. When it came

> to school supplies

> I would shop the sale but then it was usually a

> choice between that

> and food or money for utilites.

> Besides I am really being selfish here. I know if

> I give it away,

> it and more will come back to me again. Then I have

> more and more to

> give. Also it is when I give to others who are

> having trouble

> financially somehow my financial troubles have a way

> of getting

> worked out.

> Right now I really need them to be worked out so

> we can go on and

> do what God is calling us to do. You see you are

> really blessing me.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

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Dorene,

That is sooo sweet! I just have to tell you this

story.

When I was little we had a non-profit life ins co that

we were members of...they had a meeting once a month

and gave our prizes. The prize was a radio..I already

had one...well I won, so I gave it away to the only

other little girl there who was just visiting.

Not too long after that I received a brand new

Monopoly game (love it to this day) with the following

poem written on it:

There is a destiny that makes us brothers,

None goes his way alone.

All that we send into the lives of others,

Comes back into our own.

I still cry when I think of this. You sure are a

sweetie and a blessing to us all.

--- loveitingh wrote:

> April,

> What are your kids ages and what grades are they

> going into?

> I am so happy to be able to do something for you.

> Most of my kids

> school clothes came from yard sales. When it came

> to school supplies

> I would shop the sale but then it was usually a

> choice between that

> and food or money for utilites.

> Besides I am really being selfish here. I know if

> I give it away,

> it and more will come back to me again. Then I have

> more and more to

> give. Also it is when I give to others who are

> having trouble

> financially somehow my financial troubles have a way

> of getting

> worked out.

> Right now I really need them to be worked out so

> we can go on and

> do what God is calling us to do. You see you are

> really blessing me.

> Hugs,

> Dorene

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Dorene,

Yes, I saw the post about the campground and there's

an answer from me floating around here somewhere.

You are truly blessed to have found your church home.

goes to almost all the Vacation Bible Schools in

town, so we go watch her do her little thing the last

night and check the church out at the same time.

Nothing has really jumped out and grabbed us yet, so

we try to attend the church that is affiliated with

's school for now, I just have to pray before I

go that I don't fall asleep. :-(

You get some rest now, busy weekend for us all !

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Dorene,

Yes, I saw the post about the campground and there's

an answer from me floating around here somewhere.

You are truly blessed to have found your church home.

goes to almost all the Vacation Bible Schools in

town, so we go watch her do her little thing the last

night and check the church out at the same time.

Nothing has really jumped out and grabbed us yet, so

we try to attend the church that is affiliated with

's school for now, I just have to pray before I

go that I don't fall asleep. :-(

You get some rest now, busy weekend for us all !

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