Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

[Guest guest]

Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd lost so much weight that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or unbuttoning them.... I slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders over my shoulders... but they were crossed in the front. I got all frustrated when I couldn't figure out how they were tangled and twisted together like that and sat down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the pants felt weird.... I looked down and saw that I'd put them on backwards!!!

I got out of them, turned them around.. the suspenders separate in the front, just as they should be....

I was SOOOOO grateful that no one was in the room with me!

I still have the occasional lapse.. it always coincides with nights when, for one reason or another, I've not had enough sleep the night before.... and within the first hour or so of the morning.. when the meds are still getting into my system....

It's been months since the last time... I can't even think of anything after the pants incident.. unless it's the more 'common' stuff.. forgetting what you went there for.... stuff like that.

Topper ()

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:42:49 -0700 "Jamy " writes:

I stood one day for 1/2 hour trying to figure out how to put my bra on. Another time I couldn't figure out how to turn on the stove. I thought I had Alzheimer's. Once on thyroid meds, that went away!

[Guest guest]

Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd lost so much weight that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or unbuttoning them.... I slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders over my shoulders... but they were crossed in the front. I got all frustrated when I couldn't figure out how they were tangled and twisted together like that and sat down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the pants felt weird.... I looked down and saw that I'd put them on backwards!!!

I got out of them, turned them around.. the suspenders separate in the front, just as they should be....

I was SOOOOO grateful that no one was in the room with me!

I still have the occasional lapse.. it always coincides with nights when, for one reason or another, I've not had enough sleep the night before.... and within the first hour or so of the morning.. when the meds are still getting into my system....

It's been months since the last time... I can't even think of anything after the pants incident.. unless it's the more 'common' stuff.. forgetting what you went there for.... stuff like that.

Topper ()

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:42:49 -0700 "Jamy " writes:

I stood one day for 1/2 hour trying to figure out how to put my bra on. Another time I couldn't figure out how to turn on the stove. I thought I had Alzheimer's. Once on thyroid meds, that went away!

[Guest guest]

Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd lost so much weight that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or unbuttoning them.... I slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders over my shoulders... but they were crossed in the front. I got all frustrated when I couldn't figure out how they were tangled and twisted together like that and sat down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the pants felt weird.... I looked down and saw that I'd put them on backwards!!!

I got out of them, turned them around.. the suspenders separate in the front, just as they should be....

I was SOOOOO grateful that no one was in the room with me!

I still have the occasional lapse.. it always coincides with nights when, for one reason or another, I've not had enough sleep the night before.... and within the first hour or so of the morning.. when the meds are still getting into my system....

It's been months since the last time... I can't even think of anything after the pants incident.. unless it's the more 'common' stuff.. forgetting what you went there for.... stuff like that.

Topper ()

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:42:49 -0700 "Jamy " writes:

I stood one day for 1/2 hour trying to figure out how to put my bra on. Another time I couldn't figure out how to turn on the stove. I thought I had Alzheimer's. Once on thyroid meds, that went away!

[Guest guest]

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd

> lost so much weight

> that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or

> unbuttoning them.... I

> slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders

> over my shoulders...

> but they were crossed in the front. I got all

> frustrated when I couldn't

> figure out how they were tangled and twisted

> together like that and sat

> down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the

> pants felt weird....

> I looked down and saw that I'd put them on

> backwards!!!

>

I've put my pants on backwards several times and not

even noticed until it was time to leave work and go

home. I can't say I've ever forgotten how to put on

my bra or anything like that, but I do forget how to

do things at work or how to work some of the office

machines we have. I've always been the " computer

geek " at work so when anyone has problems, they come

to me. I used to be able to get them to describe the

problem to me on the phone and I could visualize it

and tell them what they were doing wrong. I can't do

that much anymore. I have to physically get up and go

over to their office to see what's happening, and then

I can't describe to them how to fix it. I have to sit

down and go through the motions for myself. ( That

drives me nuts along with constantly transposing

letters when I type, and I'm downright ANAL about my

spelling. I never used to have to go back to correct

so many mistakes before.

=====

Kathy >^,,^<

KitzCat146@...

http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat

kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger

kitzcat on MSN Messenger

In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd

> lost so much weight

> that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or

> unbuttoning them.... I

> slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders

> over my shoulders...

> but they were crossed in the front. I got all

> frustrated when I couldn't

> figure out how they were tangled and twisted

> together like that and sat

> down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the

> pants felt weird....

> I looked down and saw that I'd put them on

> backwards!!!

>

I've put my pants on backwards several times and not

even noticed until it was time to leave work and go

home. I can't say I've ever forgotten how to put on

my bra or anything like that, but I do forget how to

do things at work or how to work some of the office

machines we have. I've always been the " computer

geek " at work so when anyone has problems, they come

to me. I used to be able to get them to describe the

problem to me on the phone and I could visualize it

and tell them what they were doing wrong. I can't do

that much anymore. I have to physically get up and go

over to their office to see what's happening, and then

I can't describe to them how to fix it. I have to sit

down and go through the motions for myself. ( That

drives me nuts along with constantly transposing

letters when I type, and I'm downright ANAL about my

spelling. I never used to have to go back to correct

so many mistakes before.

=====

Kathy >^,,^<

KitzCat146@...

http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat

kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger

kitzcat on MSN Messenger

In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> > Oh wow! I was so proud of my spelling and vocabulary before

TD.Now I have tons of probs with both!-----With words I use in every

day usage....(I just mispelled usage!)

Hey, Topper(Pard) I think it's time to redo the intelligence tests---

--anyone game?

ThyroFeisty(Feisty)

>

> That

> drives me nuts along with constantly transposing

> letters when I type, and I'm downright ANAL about my

> spelling. I never used to have to go back to correct

> so many mistakes before.

>

>

> =====

> Kathy >^,,^<

> KitzCat146@a...

> http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcat

> kitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messenger

> kitzcat on MSN Messenger

>

> In a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb

>

>

[Guest guest]

The link is still in the links section

http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/home.asp

and you can enter your scores in the data base section.

Both sections can be found on the group home page

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/

on the left side of the screen.

Oh my... we were supposed to retest in June!!!

I'll go take mine now....

Topper ()

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:00:44 -0000 " Webb Osterloh" writes:

> > Oh wow! I was so proud of my spelling and vocabulary before TD.Now I have tons of probs with both!-----With words I use in every day usage....(I just mispelled usage!)Hey, Topper(Pard) I think it's time to redo the intelligence tests-----anyone game?

[Guest guest]

The link is still in the links section

http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/home.asp

and you can enter your scores in the data base section.

Both sections can be found on the group home page

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/

on the left side of the screen.

Oh my... we were supposed to retest in June!!!

I'll go take mine now....

Topper ()

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:00:44 -0000 " Webb Osterloh" writes:

> > Oh wow! I was so proud of my spelling and vocabulary before TD.Now I have tons of probs with both!-----With words I use in every day usage....(I just mispelled usage!)Hey, Topper(Pard) I think it's time to redo the intelligence tests-----anyone game?

[Guest guest]

The link is still in the links section

http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/home.asp

and you can enter your scores in the data base section.

Both sections can be found on the group home page

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/

on the left side of the screen.

Oh my... we were supposed to retest in June!!!

I'll go take mine now....

Topper ()

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:00:44 -0000 " Webb Osterloh" writes:

> > Oh wow! I was so proud of my spelling and vocabulary before TD.Now I have tons of probs with both!-----With words I use in every day usage....(I just mispelled usage!)Hey, Topper(Pard) I think it's time to redo the intelligence tests-----anyone game?

[Guest guest]

Rats... folks got home.. have to get off the phone... I'll take the test later....

Topper ()

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:00:44 -0000 " Webb Osterloh" writes:

> > Oh wow! I was so proud of my spelling and vocabulary before TD.Now I have tons of probs with both!-----With words I use in every day usage....(I just mispelled usage!)Hey, Topper(Pard) I think it's time to redo the intelligence tests-----anyone game?

[Guest guest]

I shall try!

hehehehehehehe

laughing WITH not AT you... I do the same stuff!!! heheheheheheh

Topper ()

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:52:19 -0700 (PDT) edumom writes:

here's a duh- I took two tests, then couldn't seem to get the 12 minute one to load, so I put my other results in the chart- then found the 12 minute test in another window [duh], did it, but couldn't add it to the chart, so I created a new record and tried to delete the "old" one...couldn't. Now I [duh] have two records! I HAD to put in my 12 minute score- it was better than the others. [yes I have a problem- you should see my reaction if I don't get an A on a college assignment]

Please Topper, can you fix it for me?

sincerely, edumom, mother of boys ages 13-15

NO GIRLS ALLOWED!!!!

[Guest guest]

One thing I know about sugar and the brain, and it applies to nightworkers like me------When the brain has to stay awake at odd times and also more than what it should, as in too little sleep, it will tell the body to ask for more food, and it's usually going to ask for the carbiest thing it can find. This is why nightworkers who are still trying to stay awake in the day (trying to have their cake and eat it too, hehe!) have a tendency to gain weight. Cortisol is tied in with this, but I didn't really know how much it was all tied in until we started these discussions way back there. The brain actually wants to go to sleep in the dark, we already know that, but because it has to have lots of blood sugar to stay awake and drive it into infinity repeatedly, it will start hounding the body to come up with something. Our bodies are amazing, but can also devastate us. It's like it's saying "Ok, if you're going to make me work myself to death, then you'd better come up with something to feed me NOW!" Same thing with getting too little sleep. It goes after whatever it can get fast, in order to survive our bad habits, or even necessary habits. Come to think of it, I did gain the extra 20 lbs that I have on me, gradually, after I went back to the graveyard shift. This is when I've learned to eat small amts frequently during this time, because I know I'm going to be hungrier than ever, plus the physical work involved I think makes my appetite go up also. It seems that we all want more energy, so that we can do more and drive ourselves more, but it's the opposite of what we need to be doing. I'm not saying that "All We Really Need to Do Is Live and Die, and I'm in a Hurry and Don't Know Why" (Music please!), but if the shoe fits we all need to wear it. The body will not accept this punishment we give it but for so long, and then it's going to do something about it. "Ok, guys, bring in the corisol to protect us! Build up plenty of fat around the middle to protect her because we think she's in danger of killing herself. Protect the internal organs at all costs!" And, eventually, that's exactly what it does, but with it comes many other things. Every time I have that unhungry feeling now, I know what is to come, if I don't eat. What's going to happen is that the brain will tell the body in a few hrs that it's starving (as you have said), and now it's time to start asking for LOTS of food and make it snappy. Hence, the richest most calorized, either sweetest or carbie thing that it can find. This is when the snack machines at work are dancing around in my mind the most. But if I bring my own stuff and am prepared for this onslaught, and I never run out of til the end of the shift, then I'm set. I STILL need to lose that 20 lbs though, as I feel like I have a ball and chain on me, and that's the most stubborn 20 lbs that I've ever seen, lol!! I know this was more basically about our strange memory symptoms, but I couldn't help thinking of this when you said something about coinciding with nights and not getting enough sleep.

Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd lost so much weight that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or unbuttoning them.... I slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders over my shoulders... but they were crossed in the front. I got all frustrated when I couldn't figure out how they were tangled and twisted together like that and sat down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the pants felt weird.... I looked down and saw that I'd put them on backwards!!!

I got out of them, turned them around.. the suspenders separate in the front, just as they should be....

I was SOOOOO grateful that no one was in the room with me!

I still have the occasional lapse.. it always coincides with nights when, for one reason or another, I've not had enough sleep the night before.... and within the first hour or so of the morning.. when the meds are still getting into my system....

It's been months since the last time... I can't even think of anything after the pants incident.. unless it's the more 'common' stuff.. forgetting what you went there for.... stuff like that.

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

One thing I know about sugar and the brain, and it applies to nightworkers like me------When the brain has to stay awake at odd times and also more than what it should, as in too little sleep, it will tell the body to ask for more food, and it's usually going to ask for the carbiest thing it can find. This is why nightworkers who are still trying to stay awake in the day (trying to have their cake and eat it too, hehe!) have a tendency to gain weight. Cortisol is tied in with this, but I didn't really know how much it was all tied in until we started these discussions way back there. The brain actually wants to go to sleep in the dark, we already know that, but because it has to have lots of blood sugar to stay awake and drive it into infinity repeatedly, it will start hounding the body to come up with something. Our bodies are amazing, but can also devastate us. It's like it's saying "Ok, if you're going to make me work myself to death, then you'd better come up with something to feed me NOW!" Same thing with getting too little sleep. It goes after whatever it can get fast, in order to survive our bad habits, or even necessary habits. Come to think of it, I did gain the extra 20 lbs that I have on me, gradually, after I went back to the graveyard shift. This is when I've learned to eat small amts frequently during this time, because I know I'm going to be hungrier than ever, plus the physical work involved I think makes my appetite go up also. It seems that we all want more energy, so that we can do more and drive ourselves more, but it's the opposite of what we need to be doing. I'm not saying that "All We Really Need to Do Is Live and Die, and I'm in a Hurry and Don't Know Why" (Music please!), but if the shoe fits we all need to wear it. The body will not accept this punishment we give it but for so long, and then it's going to do something about it. "Ok, guys, bring in the corisol to protect us! Build up plenty of fat around the middle to protect her because we think she's in danger of killing herself. Protect the internal organs at all costs!" And, eventually, that's exactly what it does, but with it comes many other things. Every time I have that unhungry feeling now, I know what is to come, if I don't eat. What's going to happen is that the brain will tell the body in a few hrs that it's starving (as you have said), and now it's time to start asking for LOTS of food and make it snappy. Hence, the richest most calorized, either sweetest or carbie thing that it can find. This is when the snack machines at work are dancing around in my mind the most. But if I bring my own stuff and am prepared for this onslaught, and I never run out of til the end of the shift, then I'm set. I STILL need to lose that 20 lbs though, as I feel like I have a ball and chain on me, and that's the most stubborn 20 lbs that I've ever seen, lol!! I know this was more basically about our strange memory symptoms, but I couldn't help thinking of this when you said something about coinciding with nights and not getting enough sleep.

Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd lost so much weight that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or unbuttoning them.... I slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders over my shoulders... but they were crossed in the front. I got all frustrated when I couldn't figure out how they were tangled and twisted together like that and sat down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the pants felt weird.... I looked down and saw that I'd put them on backwards!!!

I got out of them, turned them around.. the suspenders separate in the front, just as they should be....

I was SOOOOO grateful that no one was in the room with me!

I still have the occasional lapse.. it always coincides with nights when, for one reason or another, I've not had enough sleep the night before.... and within the first hour or so of the morning.. when the meds are still getting into my system....

It's been months since the last time... I can't even think of anything after the pants incident.. unless it's the more 'common' stuff.. forgetting what you went there for.... stuff like that.

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

One thing I know about sugar and the brain, and it applies to nightworkers like me------When the brain has to stay awake at odd times and also more than what it should, as in too little sleep, it will tell the body to ask for more food, and it's usually going to ask for the carbiest thing it can find. This is why nightworkers who are still trying to stay awake in the day (trying to have their cake and eat it too, hehe!) have a tendency to gain weight. Cortisol is tied in with this, but I didn't really know how much it was all tied in until we started these discussions way back there. The brain actually wants to go to sleep in the dark, we already know that, but because it has to have lots of blood sugar to stay awake and drive it into infinity repeatedly, it will start hounding the body to come up with something. Our bodies are amazing, but can also devastate us. It's like it's saying "Ok, if you're going to make me work myself to death, then you'd better come up with something to feed me NOW!" Same thing with getting too little sleep. It goes after whatever it can get fast, in order to survive our bad habits, or even necessary habits. Come to think of it, I did gain the extra 20 lbs that I have on me, gradually, after I went back to the graveyard shift. This is when I've learned to eat small amts frequently during this time, because I know I'm going to be hungrier than ever, plus the physical work involved I think makes my appetite go up also. It seems that we all want more energy, so that we can do more and drive ourselves more, but it's the opposite of what we need to be doing. I'm not saying that "All We Really Need to Do Is Live and Die, and I'm in a Hurry and Don't Know Why" (Music please!), but if the shoe fits we all need to wear it. The body will not accept this punishment we give it but for so long, and then it's going to do something about it. "Ok, guys, bring in the corisol to protect us! Build up plenty of fat around the middle to protect her because we think she's in danger of killing herself. Protect the internal organs at all costs!" And, eventually, that's exactly what it does, but with it comes many other things. Every time I have that unhungry feeling now, I know what is to come, if I don't eat. What's going to happen is that the brain will tell the body in a few hrs that it's starving (as you have said), and now it's time to start asking for LOTS of food and make it snappy. Hence, the richest most calorized, either sweetest or carbie thing that it can find. This is when the snack machines at work are dancing around in my mind the most. But if I bring my own stuff and am prepared for this onslaught, and I never run out of til the end of the shift, then I'm set. I STILL need to lose that 20 lbs though, as I feel like I have a ball and chain on me, and that's the most stubborn 20 lbs that I've ever seen, lol!! I know this was more basically about our strange memory symptoms, but I couldn't help thinking of this when you said something about coinciding with nights and not getting enough sleep.

Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

Are you sitting down? This was last spring, when I'd lost so much weight that I could pull on my jeans without unzipping or unbuttoning them.... I slipped them on and then tried to get the suspenders over my shoulders... but they were crossed in the front. I got all frustrated when I couldn't figure out how they were tangled and twisted together like that and sat down to puzzle it out... As my body bent to sit the pants felt weird.... I looked down and saw that I'd put them on backwards!!!

I got out of them, turned them around.. the suspenders separate in the front, just as they should be....

I was SOOOOO grateful that no one was in the room with me!

I still have the occasional lapse.. it always coincides with nights when, for one reason or another, I've not had enough sleep the night before.... and within the first hour or so of the morning.. when the meds are still getting into my system....

It's been months since the last time... I can't even think of anything after the pants incident.. unless it's the more 'common' stuff.. forgetting what you went there for.... stuff like that.

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

You're right, .. but even understanding the 'whys and wherefores' of it, well, it can still be frustrating.. It was really hot in the house again last night... no breeze, house itself too hot from during the day and even though I had a fan in the window blowing over me, the air out side just wasn't cool enough...

So.. hard for me to sleep.. tossing and turning on wet sheets.... I feel ALL DRAGGED OUT today.. and keep staring and the sugary things... I understand the why... but I'm just sooooo sleepy....

From years of insomnia I know that I can't take a nap.. that will just make it worse tonight... It's going to be hot and muggy this evening... I've not yet heard what it's gonna be like over night...

Sigh.... isn't life fun???

*smile*

Topper ()

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 10:32:32 -0500 " " writes:

One thing I know about sugar and the brain, and it applies to nightworkers like me------When the brain has to stay awake at odd times and also more than what it should, as in too little sleep, it will tell the body to ask for more food, and it's usually going to ask for the carbiest thing it can find. This is why nightworkers who are still trying to stay awake in the day (trying to have their cake and eat it too, hehe!) have a tendency to gain weight. Cortisol is tied in with this, but I didn't really know how much it was all tied in until we started these discussions way back there. The brain actually wants to go to sleep in the dark, we already know that, but because it has to have lots of blood sugar to stay awake and drive it into infinity repeatedly, it will start hounding the body to come up with something. Our bodies are amazing, but can also devastate us. It's like it's saying "Ok, if you're going to make me work myself to death, then you'd better come up with something to feed me NOW!" Same thing with getting too little sleep. It goes after whatever it can get fast, in order to survive our bad habits, or even necessary habits. Come to think of it, I did gain the extra 20 lbs that I have on me, gradually, after I went back to the graveyard shift. This is when I've learned to eat small amts frequently during this time, because I know I'm going to be hungrier than ever, plus the physical work involved I think makes my appetite go up also. It seems that we all want more energy, so that we can do more and drive ourselves more, but it's the opposite of what we need to be doing. I'm not saying that "All We Really Need to Do Is Live and Die, and I'm in a Hurry and Don't Know Why" (Music please!), but if the shoe fits we all need to wear it. The body will not accept this punishment we give it but for so long, and then it's going to do something about it. "Ok, guys, bring in the corisol to protect us! Build up plenty of fat around the middle to protect her because we think she's in danger of killing herself. Protect the internal organs at all costs!" And, eventually, that's exactly what it does, but with it comes many other things. Every time I have that unhungry feeling now, I know what is to come, if I don't eat. What's going to happen is that the brain will tell the body in a few hrs that it's starving (as you have said), and now it's time to start asking for LOTS of food and make it snappy. Hence, the richest most calorized, either sweetest or carbie thing that it can find. This is when the snack machines at work are dancing around in my mind the most. But if I bring my own stuff and am prepared for this onslaught, and I never run out of til the end of the shift, then I'm set. I STILL need to lose that 20 lbs though, as I feel like I have a ball and chain on me, and that's the most stubborn 20 lbs that I've ever seen, lol!! I know this was more basically about our strange memory symptoms, but I couldn't help thinking of this when you said something about coinciding with nights and not getting enough sleep.

[Guest guest]

You're right, .. but even understanding the 'whys and wherefores' of it, well, it can still be frustrating.. It was really hot in the house again last night... no breeze, house itself too hot from during the day and even though I had a fan in the window blowing over me, the air out side just wasn't cool enough...

So.. hard for me to sleep.. tossing and turning on wet sheets.... I feel ALL DRAGGED OUT today.. and keep staring and the sugary things... I understand the why... but I'm just sooooo sleepy....

From years of insomnia I know that I can't take a nap.. that will just make it worse tonight... It's going to be hot and muggy this evening... I've not yet heard what it's gonna be like over night...

Sigh.... isn't life fun???

*smile*

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 10:32:32 -0500 " " writes:

One thing I know about sugar and the brain, and it applies to nightworkers like me------When the brain has to stay awake at odd times and also more than what it should, as in too little sleep, it will tell the body to ask for more food, and it's usually going to ask for the carbiest thing it can find. This is why nightworkers who are still trying to stay awake in the day (trying to have their cake and eat it too, hehe!) have a tendency to gain weight. Cortisol is tied in with this, but I didn't really know how much it was all tied in until we started these discussions way back there. The brain actually wants to go to sleep in the dark, we already know that, but because it has to have lots of blood sugar to stay awake and drive it into infinity repeatedly, it will start hounding the body to come up with something. Our bodies are amazing, but can also devastate us. It's like it's saying "Ok, if you're going to make me work myself to death, then you'd better come up with something to feed me NOW!" Same thing with getting too little sleep. It goes after whatever it can get fast, in order to survive our bad habits, or even necessary habits. Come to think of it, I did gain the extra 20 lbs that I have on me, gradually, after I went back to the graveyard shift. This is when I've learned to eat small amts frequently during this time, because I know I'm going to be hungrier than ever, plus the physical work involved I think makes my appetite go up also. It seems that we all want more energy, so that we can do more and drive ourselves more, but it's the opposite of what we need to be doing. I'm not saying that "All We Really Need to Do Is Live and Die, and I'm in a Hurry and Don't Know Why" (Music please!), but if the shoe fits we all need to wear it. The body will not accept this punishment we give it but for so long, and then it's going to do something about it. "Ok, guys, bring in the corisol to protect us! Build up plenty of fat around the middle to protect her because we think she's in danger of killing herself. Protect the internal organs at all costs!" And, eventually, that's exactly what it does, but with it comes many other things. Every time I have that unhungry feeling now, I know what is to come, if I don't eat. What's going to happen is that the brain will tell the body in a few hrs that it's starving (as you have said), and now it's time to start asking for LOTS of food and make it snappy. Hence, the richest most calorized, either sweetest or carbie thing that it can find. This is when the snack machines at work are dancing around in my mind the most. But if I bring my own stuff and am prepared for this onslaught, and I never run out of til the end of the shift, then I'm set. I STILL need to lose that 20 lbs though, as I feel like I have a ball and chain on me, and that's the most stubborn 20 lbs that I've ever seen, lol!! I know this was more basically about our strange memory symptoms, but I couldn't help thinking of this when you said something about coinciding with nights and not getting enough sleep.

[Guest guest]

You're right, .. but even understanding the 'whys and wherefores' of it, well, it can still be frustrating.. It was really hot in the house again last night... no breeze, house itself too hot from during the day and even though I had a fan in the window blowing over me, the air out side just wasn't cool enough...

So.. hard for me to sleep.. tossing and turning on wet sheets.... I feel ALL DRAGGED OUT today.. and keep staring and the sugary things... I understand the why... but I'm just sooooo sleepy....

From years of insomnia I know that I can't take a nap.. that will just make it worse tonight... It's going to be hot and muggy this evening... I've not yet heard what it's gonna be like over night...

Sigh.... isn't life fun???

*smile*

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 10:32:32 -0500 " " writes:

One thing I know about sugar and the brain, and it applies to nightworkers like me------When the brain has to stay awake at odd times and also more than what it should, as in too little sleep, it will tell the body to ask for more food, and it's usually going to ask for the carbiest thing it can find. This is why nightworkers who are still trying to stay awake in the day (trying to have their cake and eat it too, hehe!) have a tendency to gain weight. Cortisol is tied in with this, but I didn't really know how much it was all tied in until we started these discussions way back there. The brain actually wants to go to sleep in the dark, we already know that, but because it has to have lots of blood sugar to stay awake and drive it into infinity repeatedly, it will start hounding the body to come up with something. Our bodies are amazing, but can also devastate us. It's like it's saying "Ok, if you're going to make me work myself to death, then you'd better come up with something to feed me NOW!" Same thing with getting too little sleep. It goes after whatever it can get fast, in order to survive our bad habits, or even necessary habits. Come to think of it, I did gain the extra 20 lbs that I have on me, gradually, after I went back to the graveyard shift. This is when I've learned to eat small amts frequently during this time, because I know I'm going to be hungrier than ever, plus the physical work involved I think makes my appetite go up also. It seems that we all want more energy, so that we can do more and drive ourselves more, but it's the opposite of what we need to be doing. I'm not saying that "All We Really Need to Do Is Live and Die, and I'm in a Hurry and Don't Know Why" (Music please!), but if the shoe fits we all need to wear it. The body will not accept this punishment we give it but for so long, and then it's going to do something about it. "Ok, guys, bring in the corisol to protect us! Build up plenty of fat around the middle to protect her because we think she's in danger of killing herself. Protect the internal organs at all costs!" And, eventually, that's exactly what it does, but with it comes many other things. Every time I have that unhungry feeling now, I know what is to come, if I don't eat. What's going to happen is that the brain will tell the body in a few hrs that it's starving (as you have said), and now it's time to start asking for LOTS of food and make it snappy. Hence, the richest most calorized, either sweetest or carbie thing that it can find. This is when the snack machines at work are dancing around in my mind the most. But if I bring my own stuff and am prepared for this onslaught, and I never run out of til the end of the shift, then I'm set. I STILL need to lose that 20 lbs though, as I feel like I have a ball and chain on me, and that's the most stubborn 20 lbs that I've ever seen, lol!! I know this was more basically about our strange memory symptoms, but I couldn't help thinking of this when you said something about coinciding with nights and not getting enough sleep.

[Guest guest]

One thing I will NOT go without here on the Tx Gulf Coast (with humidities that range over 90%), is good old AC. This is when I am definitely glad not to have been living back in the "good old days" of yester yrs. I'd be sleeping ALL the time, if not dead!

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You're right, .. but even understanding the 'whys and wherefores' of it, well, it can still be frustrating.. It was really hot in the house again last night... no breeze, house itself too hot from during the day and even though I had a fan in the window blowing over me, the air out side just wasn't cool enough...

So.. hard for me to sleep.. tossing and turning on wet sheets.... I feel ALL DRAGGED OUT today.. and keep staring and the sugary things... I understand the why... but I'm just sooooo sleepy....

From years of insomnia I know that I can't take a nap.. that will just make it worse tonight... It's going to be hot and muggy this evening... I've not yet heard what it's gonna be like over night...

Sigh.... isn't life fun???

*smile*

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[Guest guest]

One thing I will NOT go without here on the Tx Gulf Coast (with humidities that range over 90%), is good old AC. This is when I am definitely glad not to have been living back in the "good old days" of yester yrs. I'd be sleeping ALL the time, if not dead!

Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

You're right, .. but even understanding the 'whys and wherefores' of it, well, it can still be frustrating.. It was really hot in the house again last night... no breeze, house itself too hot from during the day and even though I had a fan in the window blowing over me, the air out side just wasn't cool enough...

So.. hard for me to sleep.. tossing and turning on wet sheets.... I feel ALL DRAGGED OUT today.. and keep staring and the sugary things... I understand the why... but I'm just sooooo sleepy....

From years of insomnia I know that I can't take a nap.. that will just make it worse tonight... It's going to be hot and muggy this evening... I've not yet heard what it's gonna be like over night...

Sigh.... isn't life fun???

*smile*

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

One thing I will NOT go without here on the Tx Gulf Coast (with humidities that range over 90%), is good old AC. This is when I am definitely glad not to have been living back in the "good old days" of yester yrs. I'd be sleeping ALL the time, if not dead!

Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

You're right, .. but even understanding the 'whys and wherefores' of it, well, it can still be frustrating.. It was really hot in the house again last night... no breeze, house itself too hot from during the day and even though I had a fan in the window blowing over me, the air out side just wasn't cool enough...

So.. hard for me to sleep.. tossing and turning on wet sheets.... I feel ALL DRAGGED OUT today.. and keep staring and the sugary things... I understand the why... but I'm just sooooo sleepy....

From years of insomnia I know that I can't take a nap.. that will just make it worse tonight... It's going to be hot and muggy this evening... I've not yet heard what it's gonna be like over night...

Sigh.... isn't life fun???

*smile*

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Temperatures FINALLY dropped.. I slept like a baby last night....

Gosh.... how good you feel when you can sleep.. my appreciation is renewed!

Topper ()

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:28:51 -0500 " " writes:

One thing I will NOT go without here on the Tx Gulf Coast (with humidities that range over 90%), is good old AC. This is when I am definitely glad not to have been living back in the "good old days" of yester yrs. I'd be sleeping ALL the time, if not dead!

[Guest guest]

Temperatures FINALLY dropped.. I slept like a baby last night....

Gosh.... how good you feel when you can sleep.. my appreciation is renewed!

Topper ()

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:28:51 -0500 " " writes:

One thing I will NOT go without here on the Tx Gulf Coast (with humidities that range over 90%), is good old AC. This is when I am definitely glad not to have been living back in the "good old days" of yester yrs. I'd be sleeping ALL the time, if not dead!

[Guest guest]

Temperatures FINALLY dropped.. I slept like a baby last night....

Gosh.... how good you feel when you can sleep.. my appreciation is renewed!

Topper ()

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:28:51 -0500 " " writes:

One thing I will NOT go without here on the Tx Gulf Coast (with humidities that range over 90%), is good old AC. This is when I am definitely glad not to have been living back in the "good old days" of yester yrs. I'd be sleeping ALL the time, if not dead!

[Guest guest]

In the 90s here, and hard to breathe out in this C**PPy pollution and heat. I'm a mole right now. Can't wait til fall. I think that I may not actually freeze to death either this yr, can't believe it!

Re: Have you ever done a DUH?

Temperatures FINALLY dropped.. I slept like a baby last night....

Gosh.... how good you feel when you can sleep.. my appreciation is renewed!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Our heat wave has broken.. it's been much more comfortable.. I even had another cooking/baking day today.. Have a NICE stash of food in the freezer again... I'm ready for the next heat wave... or busy time... just grab the stuff from the freezer and assemble my mini meals.....

Life can be good sometimes.

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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 16:39:15 -0500 " " writes:

In the 90s here, and hard to breathe out in this C**PPy pollution and heat. I'm a mole right now. Can't wait til fall. I think that I may not actually freeze to death either this yr, can't believe it!