Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

[Guest guest]

I second this! I remember not long after I got put on synthroid the lawsuit started. Armour was never sued. Many doctors just don't want to learn about armour!!!!

Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is USP and has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is tested and it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid.

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Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

> Your endo is wrong. I am sorry but that is the only way to put it.> > Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is USP and > has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is tested and > it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid. They don't just dry > pig thyroids and sell it, they test how much T3 and T4 is in each batch > before dividing it in grains to sell, and then test again to make sure > they are all consistent.> > And T3 is not T3 regardless of source. There is a difference between > natural and synthetic, between porcine natural and bovine natural, > between Cytomel (regular synthetic) and compounded synthetic, between > time-released compounded synthetic and non-time released compounded > synthetic... every single medication is different. Some people feel > great on Synthroid and then terrible on Levoxyl or vice-versa, although > both are synthetic T4.> > She might think synthetics are superior - that is her right. But saying > that Armour is inconsistent is a flat out lie.> > > > Jan> > wrote:> > > <<how do you know that the generic stuff from Mexico is any good? or> > > always good?>>> > > > as far as my enddo says you ddon't know and the board of > > endocrinology ddoesn''t approve it for the reason that from batch to > > batch its incconssistent b/cc you ddon't know how much each animals > > thyroid was putting out at the time. she said besides T3 is T3 > > regardless of where it comes from and the same with T4 andd the said > > she has never knowwn of T1 T2 and calcitonin being in it anyway.> > i'm not knocking it but just saying one my enddo says. i really > > wanted to try it but........> >> > > > > > visit our website> > www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html > > <http://www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html> > > www.poncetihomes.com > > <http://www.poncetihomes.com/> > > > > /-/> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > *

[Guest guest]

Your endo is wrong. I am sorry but that is the only way to put it.

Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is USP and

has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is tested and

it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid. They don't just dry

pig thyroids and sell it, they test how much T3 and T4 is in each batch

before dividing it in grains to sell, and then test again to make sure

they are all consistent.

And T3 is not T3 regardless of source. There is a difference between

natural and synthetic, between porcine natural and bovine natural,

between Cytomel (regular synthetic) and compounded synthetic, between

time-released compounded synthetic and non-time released compounded

synthetic... every single medication is different. Some people feel

great on Synthroid and then terrible on Levoxyl or vice-versa, although

both are synthetic T4.

She might think synthetics are superior - that is her right. But saying

that Armour is inconsistent is a flat out lie.

Jan

wrote:

> <<how do you know that the generic stuff from Mexico is any good? or

> > always good?>>

>

> as far as my enddo says you ddon't know and the board of

> endocrinology ddoesn''t approve it for the reason that from batch to

> batch its incconssistent b/cc you ddon't know how much each animals

> thyroid was putting out at the time. she said besides T3 is T3

> regardless of where it comes from and the same with T4 andd the said

> she has never knowwn of T1 T2 and calcitonin being in it anyway.

> i'm not knocking it but just saying one my enddo says. i really

> wanted to try it but........

>

>

>

> visit our website

> www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html

> <http://www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html>

> www.poncetihomes.com

> <http://www.poncetihomes.com/>

>

> /-/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

Not necessarily a lie, she may just have had training that was based on the propaganda of the synthetics manufacturers... who always seem to forget they don't have the same track record as naturals, flawless!

Topper ()

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:25:05 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

Your endo is wrong. I am sorry but that is the only way to put it.Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is USP and has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is tested and it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid. They don't just dry pig thyroids and sell it, they test how much T3 and T4 is in each batch before dividing it in grains to sell, and then test again to make sure they are all consistent.And T3 is not T3 regardless of source. There is a difference between natural and synthetic, between porcine natural and bovine natural, between Cytomel (regular synthetic) and compounded synthetic, between time-released compounded synthetic and non-time released compounded synthetic... every single medication is different. Some people feel great on Synthroid and then terrible on Levoxyl or vice-versa, although both are synthetic T4.She might think synthetics are superior - that is her right. But saying that Armour is inconsistent is a flat out lie.Jan

[Guest guest]

Come on, gang, be fair.. if someone told you that if you pushed enough of something you'd get a trip to Hawaii... would you push their product or go out of your way to learn more about the competitor????

*wink*

Topper () * who found even OTC natural thyroid to be superior to both Synthroid and Levoxyl*

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:24:21 -0400 "melissa" writes:

I second this! I remember not long after I got put on synthroid the lawsuit started. Armour was never sued. Many doctors just don't want to learn about armour!!!!

[Guest guest]

Come on, gang, be fair.. if someone told you that if you pushed enough of something you'd get a trip to Hawaii... would you push their product or go out of your way to learn more about the competitor????

*wink*

Topper () * who found even OTC natural thyroid to be superior to both Synthroid and Levoxyl*

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:24:21 -0400 "melissa" writes:

I second this! I remember not long after I got put on synthroid the lawsuit started. Armour was never sued. Many doctors just don't want to learn about armour!!!!

[Guest guest]

Sorry, but no excuses, for this is the care of the human body, and that's the big difference, when it comes to perks. It's not like Martha and the stock market, etc.....It's a dangerous issue, it's a dignity issue, it's also an issue that will cost a person their life because someone wanted a perk.

Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

Come on, gang, be fair.. if someone told you that if you pushed enough of something you'd get a trip to Hawaii... would you push their product or go out of your way to learn more about the competitor????

*wink*

Topper () * who found even OTC natural thyroid to be superior to both Synthroid and Levoxyl*

[Guest guest]

Sorry, but no excuses, for this is the care of the human body, and that's the big difference, when it comes to perks. It's not like Martha and the stock market, etc.....It's a dangerous issue, it's a dignity issue, it's also an issue that will cost a person their life because someone wanted a perk.

Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

Come on, gang, be fair.. if someone told you that if you pushed enough of something you'd get a trip to Hawaii... would you push their product or go out of your way to learn more about the competitor????

*wink*

Topper () * who found even OTC natural thyroid to be superior to both Synthroid and Levoxyl*

[Guest guest]

Sorry, but no excuses, for this is the care of the human body, and that's the big difference, when it comes to perks. It's not like Martha and the stock market, etc.....It's a dangerous issue, it's a dignity issue, it's also an issue that will cost a person their life because someone wanted a perk.

Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

Come on, gang, be fair.. if someone told you that if you pushed enough of something you'd get a trip to Hawaii... would you push their product or go out of your way to learn more about the competitor????

*wink*

Topper () * who found even OTC natural thyroid to be superior to both Synthroid and Levoxyl*

[Guest guest]

You're so right .. these guys, and gals, go to school for years to become doctors and they take and oath, the Hippocratic oath, yet the percentage of those that forget what that oath means disgusts me.

I've heard docs complain of the high prices of malpractice insurance... well.... if they did what they took an oath to do it wouldn't be an issue, would it?

I have the morning news on, one of the spots that is coming up this morning is a segment on unnecessary deaths in hospitals... I eager to hear just how well they cover this.

I wish I was a more confident and public person. I get so riled up reading what folks are still going through in the way of negligent medical care that I just want to scream it to the world that we shouldnt' have to deal with this lethal abuse.

A doctor that is truly negligent should be the one persecute, not the good doctors that are now being abused and questioned because they chose to make medicine the care of the patient, to heal to give quality of life and not just a business who's number one rule is to stroke the egos of the administrators.

.... maybe I can do a radio campaign.....

.... Okay... sorry... I'm stopping now...

Topper ()

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:16:55 -0500 " " writes:

Sorry, but no excuses, for this is the care of the human body, and that's the big difference, when it comes to perks. It's not like Martha and the stock market, etc.....It's a dangerous issue, it's a dignity issue, it's also an issue that will cost a person their life because someone wanted a perk.

[Guest guest]

You're so right .. these guys, and gals, go to school for years to become doctors and they take and oath, the Hippocratic oath, yet the percentage of those that forget what that oath means disgusts me.

I've heard docs complain of the high prices of malpractice insurance... well.... if they did what they took an oath to do it wouldn't be an issue, would it?

I have the morning news on, one of the spots that is coming up this morning is a segment on unnecessary deaths in hospitals... I eager to hear just how well they cover this.

I wish I was a more confident and public person. I get so riled up reading what folks are still going through in the way of negligent medical care that I just want to scream it to the world that we shouldnt' have to deal with this lethal abuse.

A doctor that is truly negligent should be the one persecute, not the good doctors that are now being abused and questioned because they chose to make medicine the care of the patient, to heal to give quality of life and not just a business who's number one rule is to stroke the egos of the administrators.

.... maybe I can do a radio campaign.....

.... Okay... sorry... I'm stopping now...

Topper ()

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:16:55 -0500 " " writes:

Sorry, but no excuses, for this is the care of the human body, and that's the big difference, when it comes to perks. It's not like Martha and the stock market, etc.....It's a dangerous issue, it's a dignity issue, it's also an issue that will cost a person their life because someone wanted a perk.

[Guest guest]

You're so right .. these guys, and gals, go to school for years to become doctors and they take and oath, the Hippocratic oath, yet the percentage of those that forget what that oath means disgusts me.

I've heard docs complain of the high prices of malpractice insurance... well.... if they did what they took an oath to do it wouldn't be an issue, would it?

I have the morning news on, one of the spots that is coming up this morning is a segment on unnecessary deaths in hospitals... I eager to hear just how well they cover this.

I wish I was a more confident and public person. I get so riled up reading what folks are still going through in the way of negligent medical care that I just want to scream it to the world that we shouldnt' have to deal with this lethal abuse.

A doctor that is truly negligent should be the one persecute, not the good doctors that are now being abused and questioned because they chose to make medicine the care of the patient, to heal to give quality of life and not just a business who's number one rule is to stroke the egos of the administrators.

.... maybe I can do a radio campaign.....

.... Okay... sorry... I'm stopping now...

Topper ()

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:16:55 -0500 " " writes:

Sorry, but no excuses, for this is the care of the human body, and that's the big difference, when it comes to perks. It's not like Martha and the stock market, etc.....It's a dangerous issue, it's a dignity issue, it's also an issue that will cost a person their life because someone wanted a perk.

[Guest guest]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Please do not stop, Pard! You are an inspiration to us, and hopefully a catalyst .

I get inspired by your posts, and see the light at the end of the tunnel!ThyroFeisty(Feisty)

very proud group co-owner

.... Okay... sorry... I'm stopping now...

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Topper, I believe saying that Armour is inconsistent crosses into lie.

Based on propaganda would be just the belief that Synthroid is the best

drug, and I am ok with that. But these rumors about an inconsistence

nobody has ever seen are lies.

Jan

topper2@... wrote:

> Not necessarily a lie, she may just have had training that was based

> on the propaganda of the synthetics manufacturers... who always seem

> to forget they don't have the same track record as naturals, flawless!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:25:05 -0300 Janaina Viggiano

> > writes:

>

> Your endo is wrong. I am sorry but that is the only way to put it.

>

> Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is

> USP and

> has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is

> tested and

> it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid. They don't just dry

> pig thyroids and sell it, they test how much T3 and T4 is in each

> batch

> before dividing it in grains to sell, and then test again to make

> sure

> they are all consistent.

>

> And T3 is not T3 regardless of source. There is a difference between

> natural and synthetic, between porcine natural and bovine natural,

> between Cytomel (regular synthetic) and compounded synthetic, between

> time-released compounded synthetic and non-time released compounded

> synthetic... every single medication is different. Some people feel

> great on Synthroid and then terrible on Levoxyl or vice-versa,

> although

> both are synthetic T4.

>

> She might think synthetics are superior - that is her right. But

> saying

> that Armour is inconsistent is a flat out lie.

>

>

>

> Jan

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

Topper, I believe saying that Armour is inconsistent crosses into lie.

Based on propaganda would be just the belief that Synthroid is the best

drug, and I am ok with that. But these rumors about an inconsistence

nobody has ever seen are lies.

Jan

topper2@... wrote:

> Not necessarily a lie, she may just have had training that was based

> on the propaganda of the synthetics manufacturers... who always seem

> to forget they don't have the same track record as naturals, flawless!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:25:05 -0300 Janaina Viggiano

> > writes:

>

> Your endo is wrong. I am sorry but that is the only way to put it.

>

> Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is

> USP and

> has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is

> tested and

> it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid. They don't just dry

> pig thyroids and sell it, they test how much T3 and T4 is in each

> batch

> before dividing it in grains to sell, and then test again to make

> sure

> they are all consistent.

>

> And T3 is not T3 regardless of source. There is a difference between

> natural and synthetic, between porcine natural and bovine natural,

> between Cytomel (regular synthetic) and compounded synthetic, between

> time-released compounded synthetic and non-time released compounded

> synthetic... every single medication is different. Some people feel

> great on Synthroid and then terrible on Levoxyl or vice-versa,

> although

> both are synthetic T4.

>

> She might think synthetics are superior - that is her right. But

> saying

> that Armour is inconsistent is a flat out lie.

>

>

>

> Jan

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

Topper, I believe saying that Armour is inconsistent crosses into lie.

Based on propaganda would be just the belief that Synthroid is the best

drug, and I am ok with that. But these rumors about an inconsistence

nobody has ever seen are lies.

Jan

topper2@... wrote:

> Not necessarily a lie, she may just have had training that was based

> on the propaganda of the synthetics manufacturers... who always seem

> to forget they don't have the same track record as naturals, flawless!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:25:05 -0300 Janaina Viggiano

> > writes:

>

> Your endo is wrong. I am sorry but that is the only way to put it.

>

> Synthroid was the one that got sued for inconsistency. Armour is

> USP and

> has never been found to have potency problems. Every batch is

> tested and

> it has always passed the tests, unlike Synthroid. They don't just dry

> pig thyroids and sell it, they test how much T3 and T4 is in each

> batch

> before dividing it in grains to sell, and then test again to make

> sure

> they are all consistent.

>

> And T3 is not T3 regardless of source. There is a difference between

> natural and synthetic, between porcine natural and bovine natural,

> between Cytomel (regular synthetic) and compounded synthetic, between

> time-released compounded synthetic and non-time released compounded

> synthetic... every single medication is different. Some people feel

> great on Synthroid and then terrible on Levoxyl or vice-versa,

> although

> both are synthetic T4.

>

> She might think synthetics are superior - that is her right. But

> saying

> that Armour is inconsistent is a flat out lie.

>

>

>

> Jan

>

>

> *

[Guest guest]

Good point.. but if the person is totally unknowledgeable about something, is it a lie of they simply repeat what they believe to be true?

One of the things that we so badly need to do is to reintroduce natural thyroid (Armour brand or any of those others that are also doing the job) to several generations of docs that aren't even aware that it exists... if they are never told about it in school.... and get promotional material ONLY for the synthetics... How will they know?

Our brick wall in accomplishing that is that many docs don't like learning from their patients and many are debunking info on the internet, feeling their formal schooling is of more value.....

It may very well be excellent education that they receive for a variety, a multitude of things... unfortunately thyroid and adrenal care are not included in that.....

sigh

So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of me to work... rotating shifts....

sigh...

Topper ()

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:45:16 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

Topper, I believe saying that Armour is inconsistent crosses into lie. Based on propaganda would be just the belief that Synthroid is the best drug, and I am ok with that. But these rumors about an inconsistence nobody has ever seen are lies.Jan

[Guest guest]

Good point.. but if the person is totally unknowledgeable about something, is it a lie of they simply repeat what they believe to be true?

One of the things that we so badly need to do is to reintroduce natural thyroid (Armour brand or any of those others that are also doing the job) to several generations of docs that aren't even aware that it exists... if they are never told about it in school.... and get promotional material ONLY for the synthetics... How will they know?

Our brick wall in accomplishing that is that many docs don't like learning from their patients and many are debunking info on the internet, feeling their formal schooling is of more value.....

It may very well be excellent education that they receive for a variety, a multitude of things... unfortunately thyroid and adrenal care are not included in that.....

sigh

So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of me to work... rotating shifts....

sigh...

Topper ()

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:45:16 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

Topper, I believe saying that Armour is inconsistent crosses into lie. Based on propaganda would be just the belief that Synthroid is the best drug, and I am ok with that. But these rumors about an inconsistence nobody has ever seen are lies.Jan

[Guest guest]

Good point.. but if the person is totally unknowledgeable about something, is it a lie of they simply repeat what they believe to be true?

One of the things that we so badly need to do is to reintroduce natural thyroid (Armour brand or any of those others that are also doing the job) to several generations of docs that aren't even aware that it exists... if they are never told about it in school.... and get promotional material ONLY for the synthetics... How will they know?

Our brick wall in accomplishing that is that many docs don't like learning from their patients and many are debunking info on the internet, feeling their formal schooling is of more value.....

It may very well be excellent education that they receive for a variety, a multitude of things... unfortunately thyroid and adrenal care are not included in that.....

sigh

So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of me to work... rotating shifts....

sigh...

Topper ()

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:45:16 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

Topper, I believe saying that Armour is inconsistent crosses into lie. Based on propaganda would be just the belief that Synthroid is the best drug, and I am ok with that. But these rumors about an inconsistence nobody has ever seen are lies.Jan

[Guest guest]

OMG, I KNOW whatcha mean there!!!

Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

>So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of me to work... rotating shifts....

sigh...

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

OMG, I KNOW whatcha mean there!!!

Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

>So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of me to work... rotating shifts....

sigh...

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

OMG, I KNOW whatcha mean there!!!

Re: Armour consistency was: questions on Mexican generics

>So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of me to work... rotating shifts....

sigh...

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

That is a very philosophical question, Topper.

However, I think that the duty of a doctor as a scientist is to check

the source of information. They go on and on about how " word of mouth "

like info on the internet is not reliable and that you need fact and

double-blind studies - where are the studies or charges with the FDA

that found Armour to be inconsistent? So they are behaving in exactly

the " dangerous " manner they say the internet makes people behave,

believing stuff without proof! So they are either liars, or very

irresponsible and shaming the name of science.

I believe that the biggest brick wall is that Armour is not considered

" standard of care " , so even docs using it are unlikely to tell other

docs about it. It is like, once something becomes SOC, you can only let

people know about something else if there are studies proving it is

better than the SOC...

Jan

topper2@... wrote:

> Good point.. but if the person is totally unknowledgeable about

> something, is it a lie of they simply repeat what they believe to be true?

>

> One of the things that we so badly need to do is to reintroduce

> natural thyroid (Armour brand or any of those others that are also

> doing the job) to several generations of docs that aren't even aware

> that it exists... if they are never told about it in school.... and

> get promotional material ONLY for the synthetics... How will they know?

>

> Our brick wall in accomplishing that is that many docs don't like

> learning from their patients and many are debunking info on the

> internet, feeling their formal schooling is of more value.....

>

> It may very well be excellent education that they receive for a

> variety, a multitude of things... unfortunately thyroid and adrenal

> care are not included in that.....

>

> sigh

>

> So much to do.. I need to be triplets... one of me to sleep... two of

> me to work... rotating shifts....

>

> sigh...

>

> Topper ()

>

[Guest guest]

This popped in my brain again this morning, while watching the news. Everything has to be scientifically proven... or it's not real... doesn't matter that we have thousands of folks that have made the switch to the standard of more than half a century...

Anyway.. back to the news. They did a study that now says that high carb diets cause breast cancer. They concluded this by doing anecdotal research on a group of women located in another country, with an entirely different economic structure, climate and genetic base line.

To me, that seems to be less than reliable data.... or is that just me?

Right now, based on my history... I'll take word of mouth - first hand experience over a doc saying that I need to take these six pills to relieve my depression, pain and fat. And that stuff was said to me, a person with NO thyroid function at all.. and they still don't see a problem.

Argghhhhh... It's a lovely Friday night, the beginning of what promises to be a pleasant weekend.. and I don't want to go to that dark place in my mind.. so I'm gonna stop....

oh... and take my dose of worthless pig gland.....

*wink*

Topper ()

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 20:00:11 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

That is a very philosophical question, Topper.However, I think that the duty of a doctor as a scientist is to check the source of information. They go on and on about how "word of mouth" like info on the internet is not reliable and that you need fact and double-blind studies - where are the studies or charges with the FDA that found Armour to be inconsistent? So they are behaving in exactly the "dangerous" manner they say the internet makes people behave, believing stuff without proof! So they are either liars, or very irresponsible and shaming the name of science.I believe that the biggest brick wall is that Armour is not considered "standard of care", so even docs using it are unlikely to tell other docs about it. It is like, once something becomes SOC, you can only let people know about something else if there are studies proving it is better than the SOC...Jan

[Guest guest]

This popped in my brain again this morning, while watching the news. Everything has to be scientifically proven... or it's not real... doesn't matter that we have thousands of folks that have made the switch to the standard of more than half a century...

Anyway.. back to the news. They did a study that now says that high carb diets cause breast cancer. They concluded this by doing anecdotal research on a group of women located in another country, with an entirely different economic structure, climate and genetic base line.

To me, that seems to be less than reliable data.... or is that just me?

Right now, based on my history... I'll take word of mouth - first hand experience over a doc saying that I need to take these six pills to relieve my depression, pain and fat. And that stuff was said to me, a person with NO thyroid function at all.. and they still don't see a problem.

Argghhhhh... It's a lovely Friday night, the beginning of what promises to be a pleasant weekend.. and I don't want to go to that dark place in my mind.. so I'm gonna stop....

oh... and take my dose of worthless pig gland.....

*wink*

Topper ()

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 20:00:11 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

That is a very philosophical question, Topper.However, I think that the duty of a doctor as a scientist is to check the source of information. They go on and on about how "word of mouth" like info on the internet is not reliable and that you need fact and double-blind studies - where are the studies or charges with the FDA that found Armour to be inconsistent? So they are behaving in exactly the "dangerous" manner they say the internet makes people behave, believing stuff without proof! So they are either liars, or very irresponsible and shaming the name of science.I believe that the biggest brick wall is that Armour is not considered "standard of care", so even docs using it are unlikely to tell other docs about it. It is like, once something becomes SOC, you can only let people know about something else if there are studies proving it is better than the SOC...Jan

[Guest guest]

This popped in my brain again this morning, while watching the news. Everything has to be scientifically proven... or it's not real... doesn't matter that we have thousands of folks that have made the switch to the standard of more than half a century...

Anyway.. back to the news. They did a study that now says that high carb diets cause breast cancer. They concluded this by doing anecdotal research on a group of women located in another country, with an entirely different economic structure, climate and genetic base line.

To me, that seems to be less than reliable data.... or is that just me?

Right now, based on my history... I'll take word of mouth - first hand experience over a doc saying that I need to take these six pills to relieve my depression, pain and fat. And that stuff was said to me, a person with NO thyroid function at all.. and they still don't see a problem.

Argghhhhh... It's a lovely Friday night, the beginning of what promises to be a pleasant weekend.. and I don't want to go to that dark place in my mind.. so I'm gonna stop....

oh... and take my dose of worthless pig gland.....

*wink*

Topper ()

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 20:00:11 -0300 Janaina Viggiano writes:

That is a very philosophical question, Topper.However, I think that the duty of a doctor as a scientist is to check the source of information. They go on and on about how "word of mouth" like info on the internet is not reliable and that you need fact and double-blind studies - where are the studies or charges with the FDA that found Armour to be inconsistent? So they are behaving in exactly the "dangerous" manner they say the internet makes people behave, believing stuff without proof! So they are either liars, or very irresponsible and shaming the name of science.I believe that the biggest brick wall is that Armour is not considered "standard of care", so even docs using it are unlikely to tell other docs about it. It is like, once something becomes SOC, you can only let people know about something else if there are studies proving it is better than the SOC...Jan