Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Jacky, Many of us have to START on meds in order to get some kind of a handle on this disease. Metformin, if you can tolerate it, is an excellent start. It forces your body to use the insulin you are already making as opposed to forcing the pancreas to manufacture more. Once you get the hang of the diet and start eating right and exercising more... you may start experiencing lows, which is when you start backing off the meds. You don't starve yourself (pre-insulin treatment for type 1's)because it isn't something you can live with. Your poor body is already confused and working improperly... no need to make it think that a famine has set in. You need to have help controlling your levels while you find out what causes insulin dumps in your diet... i.e., most of us can't eat pizza, some of us can eat Chinese some can't. Some can eat a small potato with an evening meal some can't. Each of us is different and we've all had to find out what we can and can't eat... and when. There are going to be times when no matter what you do your levels will be high for a while... you have to learn that you aren't going to be just like any one of us. Each of us is unique. When you are ill or stressed your bs will react. Many go on insulin to control their levels during those periods (guaranteed to make you gain weight) until their lives or health stabilize. Most important is controlling your bs levels. If you can do it without the meds, more power to you... but if you can't, and it has nothing to do with self control, use the medication!! Twenty pounds in twenty-one days is too much too fast for most of us. We want to get rid of the fat... and a pound a day usually means that muscle is going too. Don't try to be super-woman Jacky. It isn't necessary and you will be more likly to wake up some morning a little high and say, " What the h***, nothing is working anyway! I give up!! " It may be three steps forward two steps back at first... but as long as you're working at it... you'll still be going forward. We're here in the middle of this battlefield with you. You aren't alone. Stay with us. You are dedicated to controlling this, so you will. Rita " Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " -- Jefferson Metforim Hello all, I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am considering metformin. Here is why, I have to really struggle to keep my blood sugar levels under 6.6 and I wonder if I am strong enough to keep up such a low calorie and low carb diet. It has only been 4 weeks, and I have come a long way but my dr. is retiring in a few weeks and I don't know when the appointment with the specialist willbe . I assume in the Spring. If I had the prescription then I could start it when I felt I just couldn't do this any more. Right now I am eating about 900 calories a day, 30 grams of carbs and I am still spiking (today I had a 9.0 or 162) two hours after eating 1/2 a sandwich at a work party. I am slightly over weight, maybe about 25 pounds at this point, but I have lost 20 pounds in the past 21 days. I have to exercise twice a day to keep my levels in the 5's and my son and husband are tiring quickly of my preoccupation with this disease. I don't want this to sound like another whine post, because I am not whining. I just want you feed back because I feel like I am giving in already and I don't want to. As always, thank you so very much. Jacky **All email sent through this mail list is Copyrighted by the original author. Permission must be obtained from the original author for the re-use, of any text (in whole or in part). Shared Files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/files Bookmarks: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/links Home Page at Yahoo Groups: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Jacky, Many of us have to START on meds in order to get some kind of a handle on this disease. Metformin, if you can tolerate it, is an excellent start. It forces your body to use the insulin you are already making as opposed to forcing the pancreas to manufacture more. Once you get the hang of the diet and start eating right and exercising more... you may start experiencing lows, which is when you start backing off the meds. You don't starve yourself (pre-insulin treatment for type 1's)because it isn't something you can live with. Your poor body is already confused and working improperly... no need to make it think that a famine has set in. You need to have help controlling your levels while you find out what causes insulin dumps in your diet... i.e., most of us can't eat pizza, some of us can eat Chinese some can't. Some can eat a small potato with an evening meal some can't. Each of us is different and we've all had to find out what we can and can't eat... and when. There are going to be times when no matter what you do your levels will be high for a while... you have to learn that you aren't going to be just like any one of us. Each of us is unique. When you are ill or stressed your bs will react. Many go on insulin to control their levels during those periods (guaranteed to make you gain weight) until their lives or health stabilize. Most important is controlling your bs levels. If you can do it without the meds, more power to you... but if you can't, and it has nothing to do with self control, use the medication!! Twenty pounds in twenty-one days is too much too fast for most of us. We want to get rid of the fat... and a pound a day usually means that muscle is going too. Don't try to be super-woman Jacky. It isn't necessary and you will be more likly to wake up some morning a little high and say, " What the h***, nothing is working anyway! I give up!! " It may be three steps forward two steps back at first... but as long as you're working at it... you'll still be going forward. We're here in the middle of this battlefield with you. You aren't alone. Stay with us. You are dedicated to controlling this, so you will. Rita " Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " -- Jefferson Metforim Hello all, I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am considering metformin. Here is why, I have to really struggle to keep my blood sugar levels under 6.6 and I wonder if I am strong enough to keep up such a low calorie and low carb diet. It has only been 4 weeks, and I have come a long way but my dr. is retiring in a few weeks and I don't know when the appointment with the specialist willbe . I assume in the Spring. If I had the prescription then I could start it when I felt I just couldn't do this any more. Right now I am eating about 900 calories a day, 30 grams of carbs and I am still spiking (today I had a 9.0 or 162) two hours after eating 1/2 a sandwich at a work party. I am slightly over weight, maybe about 25 pounds at this point, but I have lost 20 pounds in the past 21 days. I have to exercise twice a day to keep my levels in the 5's and my son and husband are tiring quickly of my preoccupation with this disease. I don't want this to sound like another whine post, because I am not whining. I just want you feed back because I feel like I am giving in already and I don't want to. As always, thank you so very much. Jacky **All email sent through this mail list is Copyrighted by the original author. Permission must be obtained from the original author for the re-use, of any text (in whole or in part). Shared Files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/files Bookmarks: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/links Home Page at Yahoo Groups: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Jacky, Many of us have to START on meds in order to get some kind of a handle on this disease. Metformin, if you can tolerate it, is an excellent start. It forces your body to use the insulin you are already making as opposed to forcing the pancreas to manufacture more. Once you get the hang of the diet and start eating right and exercising more... you may start experiencing lows, which is when you start backing off the meds. You don't starve yourself (pre-insulin treatment for type 1's)because it isn't something you can live with. Your poor body is already confused and working improperly... no need to make it think that a famine has set in. You need to have help controlling your levels while you find out what causes insulin dumps in your diet... i.e., most of us can't eat pizza, some of us can eat Chinese some can't. Some can eat a small potato with an evening meal some can't. Each of us is different and we've all had to find out what we can and can't eat... and when. There are going to be times when no matter what you do your levels will be high for a while... you have to learn that you aren't going to be just like any one of us. Each of us is unique. When you are ill or stressed your bs will react. Many go on insulin to control their levels during those periods (guaranteed to make you gain weight) until their lives or health stabilize. Most important is controlling your bs levels. If you can do it without the meds, more power to you... but if you can't, and it has nothing to do with self control, use the medication!! Twenty pounds in twenty-one days is too much too fast for most of us. We want to get rid of the fat... and a pound a day usually means that muscle is going too. Don't try to be super-woman Jacky. It isn't necessary and you will be more likly to wake up some morning a little high and say, " What the h***, nothing is working anyway! I give up!! " It may be three steps forward two steps back at first... but as long as you're working at it... you'll still be going forward. We're here in the middle of this battlefield with you. You aren't alone. Stay with us. You are dedicated to controlling this, so you will. Rita " Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " -- Jefferson Metforim Hello all, I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am considering metformin. Here is why, I have to really struggle to keep my blood sugar levels under 6.6 and I wonder if I am strong enough to keep up such a low calorie and low carb diet. It has only been 4 weeks, and I have come a long way but my dr. is retiring in a few weeks and I don't know when the appointment with the specialist willbe . I assume in the Spring. If I had the prescription then I could start it when I felt I just couldn't do this any more. Right now I am eating about 900 calories a day, 30 grams of carbs and I am still spiking (today I had a 9.0 or 162) two hours after eating 1/2 a sandwich at a work party. I am slightly over weight, maybe about 25 pounds at this point, but I have lost 20 pounds in the past 21 days. I have to exercise twice a day to keep my levels in the 5's and my son and husband are tiring quickly of my preoccupation with this disease. I don't want this to sound like another whine post, because I am not whining. I just want you feed back because I feel like I am giving in already and I don't want to. As always, thank you so very much. Jacky **All email sent through this mail list is Copyrighted by the original author. Permission must be obtained from the original author for the re-use, of any text (in whole or in part). Shared Files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/files Bookmarks: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/links Home Page at Yahoo Groups: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Always take it after a meal! I have diahrea, but only about 3 times a day, but it is worth the aggrevation to me. The Actos made me nervous and my heart rate went up. The Avandia made my ankles the size of watermellons and my legs hurt. So, a little gas three times a day isn't so bad. But each person is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 <<I just want you feed back because I feel like I am giving in already and I don't want to.>> Never feel like you are giving in. Some people are of normal weight, exercise everyday and there blood sugars will not go down. They will also have large swings in blood sugar which is really bad for you. I would give the meds a try, expecially the metforim, because I think it is the safest of about all meds. And never feel like you are whinning. You are trying to find the cure for you and we are all here to help. Yes, we must all take care of ourselves and be aware, but I am also a big believer in living you life also. Good luck and keep me posted. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 <<I just want you feed back because I feel like I am giving in already and I don't want to.>> Never feel like you are giving in. Some people are of normal weight, exercise everyday and there blood sugars will not go down. They will also have large swings in blood sugar which is really bad for you. I would give the meds a try, expecially the metforim, because I think it is the safest of about all meds. And never feel like you are whinning. You are trying to find the cure for you and we are all here to help. Yes, we must all take care of ourselves and be aware, but I am also a big believer in living you life also. Good luck and keep me posted. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 <<I just want you feed back because I feel like I am giving in already and I don't want to.>> Never feel like you are giving in. Some people are of normal weight, exercise everyday and there blood sugars will not go down. They will also have large swings in blood sugar which is really bad for you. I would give the meds a try, expecially the metforim, because I think it is the safest of about all meds. And never feel like you are whinning. You are trying to find the cure for you and we are all here to help. Yes, we must all take care of ourselves and be aware, but I am also a big believer in living you life also. Good luck and keep me posted. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 << After switching to Glucophage XR, I now have ankles all day long, >> Glad to hear your ankles are still between your lower legs and your feet...you'd look pretty weird without 'em <g> Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 << After switching to Glucophage XR, I now have ankles all day long, >> Glad to hear your ankles are still between your lower legs and your feet...you'd look pretty weird without 'em <g> Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 << After switching to Glucophage XR, I now have ankles all day long, >> Glad to hear your ankles are still between your lower legs and your feet...you'd look pretty weird without 'em <g> Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 Ask your doctor about switching to Glucophage XR. It should minimize the gas and diahrea effects, least wise it did for me. When I was on Glucophage at 850 mg three times a day (maximum dose), I had lots of gas, unpredictable diahrea, and enlarged ankles in the afternoons. After switching to Glucophage XR, I now have ankles all day long, the gas and diahrea are things of the past. ========= I may not have gotten all the facts, but at approximately 12/12/01 11:54 AM I believe Phyllis Norwood is rumored to have said: >Always take it after a meal! I have diahrea, but only about 3 times a >day, but it is worth the aggrevation to me. ===================================================================== Maurer - Type II since 4/87, diet, exercise, and meds. http://homepage.mac.com/maurerw/index.html (only 45 minutes from Sequoia National Park in Central California) ===================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 Ask your doctor about switching to Glucophage XR. It should minimize the gas and diahrea effects, least wise it did for me. When I was on Glucophage at 850 mg three times a day (maximum dose), I had lots of gas, unpredictable diahrea, and enlarged ankles in the afternoons. After switching to Glucophage XR, I now have ankles all day long, the gas and diahrea are things of the past. ========= I may not have gotten all the facts, but at approximately 12/12/01 11:54 AM I believe Phyllis Norwood is rumored to have said: >Always take it after a meal! I have diahrea, but only about 3 times a >day, but it is worth the aggrevation to me. ===================================================================== Maurer - Type II since 4/87, diet, exercise, and meds. http://homepage.mac.com/maurerw/index.html (only 45 minutes from Sequoia National Park in Central California) ===================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 Ask your doctor about switching to Glucophage XR. It should minimize the gas and diahrea effects, least wise it did for me. When I was on Glucophage at 850 mg three times a day (maximum dose), I had lots of gas, unpredictable diahrea, and enlarged ankles in the afternoons. After switching to Glucophage XR, I now have ankles all day long, the gas and diahrea are things of the past. ========= I may not have gotten all the facts, but at approximately 12/12/01 11:54 AM I believe Phyllis Norwood is rumored to have said: >Always take it after a meal! I have diahrea, but only about 3 times a >day, but it is worth the aggrevation to me. ===================================================================== Maurer - Type II since 4/87, diet, exercise, and meds. http://homepage.mac.com/maurerw/index.html (only 45 minutes from Sequoia National Park in Central California) ===================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 > I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am considering > metformin. Don't feel defeated by taking meds! I was diagnosed in late July and was started on glucophage right off the bat. Thanks to it I can have " bad " days and not suffer the consequences as dramatically as I would without it. Not that I plan on using it forever, as my ultimate goal is med-free -- but it's helped me to lose weight (35+ pounds so far) and get down from an HbA1C 7.0 to a 5.5 so far. I almost never spike higher than 130, and I usually have a fasting reading of 110 or less. Remember, your attitude towards this disease can make or break you. -- Lee __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 > I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am considering > metformin. Don't feel defeated by taking meds! I was diagnosed in late July and was started on glucophage right off the bat. Thanks to it I can have " bad " days and not suffer the consequences as dramatically as I would without it. Not that I plan on using it forever, as my ultimate goal is med-free -- but it's helped me to lose weight (35+ pounds so far) and get down from an HbA1C 7.0 to a 5.5 so far. I almost never spike higher than 130, and I usually have a fasting reading of 110 or less. Remember, your attitude towards this disease can make or break you. -- Lee __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 > I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am considering > metformin. Don't feel defeated by taking meds! I was diagnosed in late July and was started on glucophage right off the bat. Thanks to it I can have " bad " days and not suffer the consequences as dramatically as I would without it. Not that I plan on using it forever, as my ultimate goal is med-free -- but it's helped me to lose weight (35+ pounds so far) and get down from an HbA1C 7.0 to a 5.5 so far. I almost never spike higher than 130, and I usually have a fasting reading of 110 or less. Remember, your attitude towards this disease can make or break you. -- Lee __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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