Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Hello, Am back from the hospital and staying with a friend for a few days. My abdominal myo was Monday at 7:15 am. The myo went well. My tummy's flat!!! The little rolls are starting to form above the incision area but I'm still very happy about the results. There is some swelling but nothing compared to the bulge of the fibroids. Bruising is just starting to appear. The fibroids had gotten pretty large. The pathology report is due in about a week and I'll know more then about exact size and weight but here's what my dr was able to provide so far: pedunculated subserosal fibroid measured in at 18cms x 14cms. His guess was it weighed about 7 to 8 pounds. Yup. BIG!!! The bikini incision ended up being 11 inches. (Won't kid you, it hurts. There are 2 vertical interior incisions that cause most of the pain. I'm taking hydrocodone/acetamin for the pain.) The surgical team had a bit of a struggle to get the fibroid out, it just fit thru. The intramural fibroid was 7cms x 7cms. Very round. There were several " seedlings " which were also removed. They found some endometriosis when they went in. He says there were some adhesion scars from the endo but it wasn't too bad.. It may be that the endo has been asymptomatic as neither one of us expected there to be any. (I also had had a laparoscopic exam and it didn't show up during the exam--that was 2 years ago.) The endo was pretty well hidden by the fibroids which also may explain why it was missed during the lap exam. I'm sleeping alot. I can walk about a block and then its back to bed for a nap. I've been trying to walk 4 times each day but sometimes the sleep wins. The epidural worked out pretty well I think (for post myo pain management). I still had alot of discomfort but it helped psychologically for me to be " there " I asked for something extra the first night as I had alot of trouble sleeping comfortably. They gave me morphine in the iv and i konked out. The epidural was in for the first two and a half days and then i switched to the vicodin. (see more below) Coughing was the worst part. (I had residual congestion from a cold from the week before and the nurses insisted i cough out the mucus as much as possible.) I found that the only position i could really handle coughing in was sitting straight up with my knees pulled up a little. It seemed to work better than pressing the pillow in to my abdomen which didn't do it for me for some reason. I only have one minor complaint--for someone else it might have been major but i'm thru it so its only mildly irritating now. I was continually asked by the nurses what level my pain was at " on a scale of 1 to 10 " . What no one told me, until the third day, was that they won't give you additional pain medication unless its over a 7. I kept wondering why they seemed hesitant to increase meds the first 2 days. I naively thought that a scale of 1 to 10 meant at 1 you need an aspirin, 2 a motrin, 3 extra strength, etc on up to 10 where you'd want full anesthesia. Turns out they're only interested in the 7 to 10 category. SO... why ask about on a scale of 1 to 10 if you don't care about the first 6? Minor complaint but it annoyed me that the nurse i had on the first 2 days didn't take the time to explain this. It was the new nurse on the third day who did explain it all in detail. The anesthesiologist visited twice daily to check that the epidural was working--they adjusted it once to balance the delivery and once for level of anesthesia--and to let me know to ask the nurses to contact them if i needed something more. Pretty clear to me now that the first nurse didn't contact them. (it was the night nurse who at 2 am finally called to get me the little bit extra so I could sleep.BTW--i thought the night nurses were great. it may be they had a little more time to help.) Its a minor gripe but I'm going to pass it on to my dr, in case it helps anyone in the future, " ask the nurses to clarify in detail what on a scale of 1 to 10 means " . I wasn't prepared for dealing with pain management semantics and i didn't have the experience of prior surgery to know. You like to think that when you say you are in pain, that someone is hearing what you're saying. If I say " the pain is a little sharp, like a 6 " , Its annoying to find out the nurse is hearing " oh, she doesn't need ANY additional medication. " when in fact I do!!! Well, time to go nap again. Hope this finds everyone well. Best wishes, PS My fibroids were BIG. If I had to do it over again, and if I could offer advice to anyone, try to have the myo BEFORE a fibroid gets as big as mine did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 : I was thinking about you all week so I was glad to see your post today. Well, it's finally over!! I'm sure you are relieved. For those of you wondering and I have the same doctor and we were both scheduled for myo in December but got sick and had to postpone. We were planning on being roommates. , I had bad experiences with some of the nurses at UCLA not explaining things or being too busy to come to my aid when I needed them. I experienced a lot of nauseau, which wasn't relieved by any of the medication. No one EVER asked about pain tolerance numbers, they just gave me the drugs when I asked for them. I'm glad your stomach is flatter, that's so encouraging. My stomach was actually bigger after surgery, now three months later it is finally starting to go down. Dr said it was from irritation. But the exciting part is my stomach is finally feeling softer . . with the fibroids it was just hard lumps. Get plenty of rest . . . and take it slowly. Did you need any blood transfusions??? Keep us updated on your progress when you get back online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 : I was thinking about you all week so I was glad to see your post today. Well, it's finally over!! I'm sure you are relieved. For those of you wondering and I have the same doctor and we were both scheduled for myo in December but got sick and had to postpone. We were planning on being roommates. , I had bad experiences with some of the nurses at UCLA not explaining things or being too busy to come to my aid when I needed them. I experienced a lot of nauseau, which wasn't relieved by any of the medication. No one EVER asked about pain tolerance numbers, they just gave me the drugs when I asked for them. I'm glad your stomach is flatter, that's so encouraging. My stomach was actually bigger after surgery, now three months later it is finally starting to go down. Dr said it was from irritation. But the exciting part is my stomach is finally feeling softer . . with the fibroids it was just hard lumps. Get plenty of rest . . . and take it slowly. Did you need any blood transfusions??? Keep us updated on your progress when you get back online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 : I was thinking about you all week so I was glad to see your post today. Well, it's finally over!! I'm sure you are relieved. For those of you wondering and I have the same doctor and we were both scheduled for myo in December but got sick and had to postpone. We were planning on being roommates. , I had bad experiences with some of the nurses at UCLA not explaining things or being too busy to come to my aid when I needed them. I experienced a lot of nauseau, which wasn't relieved by any of the medication. No one EVER asked about pain tolerance numbers, they just gave me the drugs when I asked for them. I'm glad your stomach is flatter, that's so encouraging. My stomach was actually bigger after surgery, now three months later it is finally starting to go down. Dr said it was from irritation. But the exciting part is my stomach is finally feeling softer . . with the fibroids it was just hard lumps. Get plenty of rest . . . and take it slowly. Did you need any blood transfusions??? Keep us updated on your progress when you get back online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 > Oh and BTW did you have the Lupron shot to help shrink the > fibroids before the myo? Hi, No Lupron. I have a history of depression and my pschopharmacologist was very adamant that I not have Lupron. However, if I had waited even one more month for my myo, there was a good chance I would have needed a vertical incision which I very much wanted to avoid. If had been faced with the vertical as the only option, I would have discussed Lupron with my psych again though probably would not have taken it. I really can't risk a severe depression episode. (The last severe epsiode I had took over a year to get back under control so there was a strong reason not to go there. Best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 > Oh and BTW did you have the Lupron shot to help shrink the > fibroids before the myo? Hi, No Lupron. I have a history of depression and my pschopharmacologist was very adamant that I not have Lupron. However, if I had waited even one more month for my myo, there was a good chance I would have needed a vertical incision which I very much wanted to avoid. If had been faced with the vertical as the only option, I would have discussed Lupron with my psych again though probably would not have taken it. I really can't risk a severe depression episode. (The last severe epsiode I had took over a year to get back under control so there was a strong reason not to go there. Best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 I too have a poloroid of the fibroids taken from a myo several years ago. I take the picture out once in awhile and stare in amazement at what I had inside me. The biggest one looks just like mickey mouse's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 Hi , I can relate to you on the size of your fibroid. Mine weighed between 8 and 10 pounds - intramural. I was on lupron before my surgery which I did have good shrinkage but I still ended up with a vertical incision. All the nurses I did have where really nice so I had no complaints there but I am just wondering if it was because they knew I was a nurse also, so I got good care. The whole thing about looking straight forward and not down was also told to me too since every time I got up I was lightheaded and dizzy and the first time I did end up fainting. The other thing the nurses told me was not to close my eyes. > Hello, > Am back from the hospital and staying with a friend for a few days. > > My abdominal myo was Monday at 7:15 am. > > The myo went well. My tummy's flat!!! The little rolls are starting > to form above the incision area but I'm still very happy about the > results. There is some swelling but nothing compared to the bulge of > the fibroids. Bruising is just starting to appear. > > The fibroids had gotten pretty large. The pathology report is due in > about a week and I'll know more then about exact size and weight but > here's what my dr was able to provide so far: > > pedunculated subserosal fibroid measured in at 18cms x 14cms. His > guess was it weighed about 7 to 8 pounds. Yup. BIG!!! The bikini > incision ended up being 11 inches. (Won't kid you, it hurts. There > are 2 vertical interior incisions that cause most of the pain. I'm > taking hydrocodone/acetamin for the pain.) The surgical team had a > bit of a struggle to get the fibroid out, it just fit thru. > > The intramural fibroid was 7cms x 7cms. Very round. > > There were several " seedlings " which were also removed. > > They found some endometriosis when they went in. He says there were > some adhesion scars from the endo but it wasn't too bad.. It may be > that the endo has been asymptomatic as neither one of us expected > there to be any. (I also had had a laparoscopic exam and it didn't > show up during the exam--that was 2 years ago.) The endo was pretty > well hidden by the fibroids which also may explain why it was missed > during the lap exam. > > I'm sleeping alot. I can walk about a block and then its back to bed > for a nap. I've been trying to walk 4 times each day but sometimes > the sleep wins. > > The epidural worked out pretty well I think (for post myo pain > management). I still had alot of discomfort but it helped > psychologically for me to be " there " I asked for something extra the > first night as I had alot of trouble sleeping comfortably. They gave > me morphine in the iv and i konked out. The epidural was in for the > first two and a half days and then i switched to the vicodin. (see > more below) > > Coughing was the worst part. (I had residual congestion from a cold > from the week before and the nurses insisted i cough out the mucus as > much as possible.) I found that the only position i could really > handle coughing in was sitting straight up with my knees pulled up a > little. It seemed to work better than pressing the pillow in to my > abdomen which didn't do it for me for some reason. > > I only have one minor complaint--for someone else it might have been > major but i'm thru it so its only mildly irritating now. I was > continually asked by the nurses what level my pain was at " on a scale > of 1 to 10 " . What no one told me, until the third day, was that they > won't give you additional pain medication unless its over a 7. > > I kept wondering why they seemed hesitant to increase meds the first > 2 days. I naively thought that a scale of 1 to 10 meant at 1 you > need an aspirin, 2 a motrin, 3 extra strength, etc on up to 10 where > you'd want full anesthesia. Turns out they're only interested in the > 7 to 10 category. SO... why ask about on a scale of 1 to 10 if you > don't care about the first 6? > > Minor complaint but it annoyed me that the nurse i had on the first 2 > days didn't take the time to explain this. It was the new nurse on > the third day who did explain it all in detail. The anesthesiologist > visited twice daily to check that the epidural was working--they > adjusted it once to balance the delivery and once for level of > anesthesia--and to let me know to ask the nurses to contact them if i > needed something more. Pretty clear to me now that the first nurse > didn't contact them. (it was the night nurse who at 2 am finally > called to get me the little bit extra so I could sleep.BTW--i thought > the night nurses were great. it may be they had a little more time to > help.) > > Its a minor gripe but I'm going to pass it on to my dr, in case it > helps anyone in the future, " ask the nurses to clarify in detail what > on a scale of 1 to 10 means " . I wasn't prepared for dealing with pain > management semantics and i didn't have the experience of prior > surgery to know. You like to think that when you say you are in pain, > that someone is hearing what you're saying. If I say " the pain is a > little sharp, like a 6 " , Its annoying to find out the nurse is > hearing " oh, she doesn't need ANY additional medication. " when in > fact I do!!! > > Well, time to go nap again. > > Hope this finds everyone well. > > Best wishes, > > > PS My fibroids were BIG. If I had to do it over again, and if I could > offer advice to anyone, try to have the myo BEFORE a fibroid gets as > big as mine did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 Hi , I can relate to you on the size of your fibroid. Mine weighed between 8 and 10 pounds - intramural. I was on lupron before my surgery which I did have good shrinkage but I still ended up with a vertical incision. All the nurses I did have where really nice so I had no complaints there but I am just wondering if it was because they knew I was a nurse also, so I got good care. The whole thing about looking straight forward and not down was also told to me too since every time I got up I was lightheaded and dizzy and the first time I did end up fainting. The other thing the nurses told me was not to close my eyes. > Hello, > Am back from the hospital and staying with a friend for a few days. > > My abdominal myo was Monday at 7:15 am. > > The myo went well. My tummy's flat!!! The little rolls are starting > to form above the incision area but I'm still very happy about the > results. There is some swelling but nothing compared to the bulge of > the fibroids. Bruising is just starting to appear. > > The fibroids had gotten pretty large. The pathology report is due in > about a week and I'll know more then about exact size and weight but > here's what my dr was able to provide so far: > > pedunculated subserosal fibroid measured in at 18cms x 14cms. His > guess was it weighed about 7 to 8 pounds. Yup. BIG!!! The bikini > incision ended up being 11 inches. (Won't kid you, it hurts. There > are 2 vertical interior incisions that cause most of the pain. I'm > taking hydrocodone/acetamin for the pain.) The surgical team had a > bit of a struggle to get the fibroid out, it just fit thru. > > The intramural fibroid was 7cms x 7cms. Very round. > > There were several " seedlings " which were also removed. > > They found some endometriosis when they went in. He says there were > some adhesion scars from the endo but it wasn't too bad.. It may be > that the endo has been asymptomatic as neither one of us expected > there to be any. (I also had had a laparoscopic exam and it didn't > show up during the exam--that was 2 years ago.) The endo was pretty > well hidden by the fibroids which also may explain why it was missed > during the lap exam. > > I'm sleeping alot. I can walk about a block and then its back to bed > for a nap. I've been trying to walk 4 times each day but sometimes > the sleep wins. > > The epidural worked out pretty well I think (for post myo pain > management). I still had alot of discomfort but it helped > psychologically for me to be " there " I asked for something extra the > first night as I had alot of trouble sleeping comfortably. They gave > me morphine in the iv and i konked out. The epidural was in for the > first two and a half days and then i switched to the vicodin. (see > more below) > > Coughing was the worst part. (I had residual congestion from a cold > from the week before and the nurses insisted i cough out the mucus as > much as possible.) I found that the only position i could really > handle coughing in was sitting straight up with my knees pulled up a > little. It seemed to work better than pressing the pillow in to my > abdomen which didn't do it for me for some reason. > > I only have one minor complaint--for someone else it might have been > major but i'm thru it so its only mildly irritating now. I was > continually asked by the nurses what level my pain was at " on a scale > of 1 to 10 " . What no one told me, until the third day, was that they > won't give you additional pain medication unless its over a 7. > > I kept wondering why they seemed hesitant to increase meds the first > 2 days. I naively thought that a scale of 1 to 10 meant at 1 you > need an aspirin, 2 a motrin, 3 extra strength, etc on up to 10 where > you'd want full anesthesia. Turns out they're only interested in the > 7 to 10 category. SO... why ask about on a scale of 1 to 10 if you > don't care about the first 6? > > Minor complaint but it annoyed me that the nurse i had on the first 2 > days didn't take the time to explain this. It was the new nurse on > the third day who did explain it all in detail. The anesthesiologist > visited twice daily to check that the epidural was working--they > adjusted it once to balance the delivery and once for level of > anesthesia--and to let me know to ask the nurses to contact them if i > needed something more. Pretty clear to me now that the first nurse > didn't contact them. (it was the night nurse who at 2 am finally > called to get me the little bit extra so I could sleep.BTW--i thought > the night nurses were great. it may be they had a little more time to > help.) > > Its a minor gripe but I'm going to pass it on to my dr, in case it > helps anyone in the future, " ask the nurses to clarify in detail what > on a scale of 1 to 10 means " . I wasn't prepared for dealing with pain > management semantics and i didn't have the experience of prior > surgery to know. You like to think that when you say you are in pain, > that someone is hearing what you're saying. If I say " the pain is a > little sharp, like a 6 " , Its annoying to find out the nurse is > hearing " oh, she doesn't need ANY additional medication. " when in > fact I do!!! > > Well, time to go nap again. > > Hope this finds everyone well. > > Best wishes, > > > PS My fibroids were BIG. If I had to do it over again, and if I could > offer advice to anyone, try to have the myo BEFORE a fibroid gets as > big as mine did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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