Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 In a message dated 10/17/01 3:38:42 PM Central Daylight Time, stbrettell@... writes: << Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. >> I had no problems with it. What dose did you start at?? Are your numbers still high? ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 In a message dated 10/17/01 3:38:42 PM Central Daylight Time, stbrettell@... writes: << Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. >> I had no problems with it. What dose did you start at?? Are your numbers still high? ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 In a message dated 10/17/01 3:38:42 PM Central Daylight Time, stbrettell@... writes: << Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. >> I had no problems with it. What dose did you start at?? Are your numbers still high? ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 << Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. >> Yes, I've been taking it for about two months now. I really like taking one less shot a day. I had to adjust my meal Humalog upwards, though. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. Does this have to build up? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. Does this have to build up? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. Does this have to build up? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 In a message dated 10/18/01 7:33:10 AM Central Daylight Time, stbrettell@... writes: << I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. Does this have to build up? >> Hmm....I think so but only for 3 days. I was only on 5 units so i cannot speak to the higher doses....anyone else?? ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 In a message dated 10/18/01 7:33:10 AM Central Daylight Time, stbrettell@... writes: << I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. Does this have to build up? >> Hmm....I think so but only for 3 days. I was only on 5 units so i cannot speak to the higher doses....anyone else?? ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 Steve, are you covering your meals with Humalog? If you're only taking Lantus, and your numbers are that high, perhaps it's time for some different choices. Barb > I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. > Does this have to build up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 Steve, are you covering your meals with Humalog? If you're only taking Lantus, and your numbers are that high, perhaps it's time for some different choices. Barb > I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. > Does this have to build up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 Steve, are you covering your meals with Humalog? If you're only taking Lantus, and your numbers are that high, perhaps it's time for some different choices. Barb > I'm up to 70 units, and my numbers are very high. > Does this have to build up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 > Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me > over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. hi steve I'm new to lantus also. I'm up to 12units at bedtime and my morning bs are running 250 range. Im taking 15units of humalog at meals which seem to be doing what they are suppose to but im not sure the lantus is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 > Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me > over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. hi steve I'm new to lantus also. I'm up to 12units at bedtime and my morning bs are running 250 range. Im taking 15units of humalog at meals which seem to be doing what they are suppose to but im not sure the lantus is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 > Has anyone had any experience with Lantus? My doc has changed me > over, and I'm not thrilled with the result. hi steve I'm new to lantus also. I'm up to 12units at bedtime and my morning bs are running 250 range. Im taking 15units of humalog at meals which seem to be doing what they are suppose to but im not sure the lantus is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Recently, some of you have raised questions about insulin dosing, such as Steve's question about basal dosing with Lantus and 's recent post re: fasting blood sugars in the 250 range. First, I strongly suggest that you get and read the book Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution for general information (if you haven't already). It's a necessity. I cannot really help with dosing issues since I am diet controlled. But, on another list -- Low Carb Diabetes or [LC-D] -- Ron Sebol is just beginning a series of tutorials re: dosing techniques, and he is starting with basal dosing. I understand that the techniques he has developed work regardless of one's WOE and can lead to really good control with minimal hypo risk. You do not have to join that list to access this information since the list's archives are open and can be referenced at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/lc-diabetes.html. You can then search the archives for Ron's posts by entering " ersebol@... " (without the quotes) in the author's address box on the search screen. The tutorials to date are: 015201 01/10/17 21:58 89 2) example of proportional scaling for basal dosing setup, and 015202 01/10/17 23:13 154 1) Basal dosing via proportional scaling You then click on the underlined reference number to read the posts. I highly recommend these and the tutorals that will follow to anyone using insulin. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Recently, some of you have raised questions about insulin dosing, such as Steve's question about basal dosing with Lantus and 's recent post re: fasting blood sugars in the 250 range. First, I strongly suggest that you get and read the book Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution for general information (if you haven't already). It's a necessity. I cannot really help with dosing issues since I am diet controlled. But, on another list -- Low Carb Diabetes or [LC-D] -- Ron Sebol is just beginning a series of tutorials re: dosing techniques, and he is starting with basal dosing. I understand that the techniques he has developed work regardless of one's WOE and can lead to really good control with minimal hypo risk. You do not have to join that list to access this information since the list's archives are open and can be referenced at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/lc-diabetes.html. You can then search the archives for Ron's posts by entering " ersebol@... " (without the quotes) in the author's address box on the search screen. The tutorials to date are: 015201 01/10/17 21:58 89 2) example of proportional scaling for basal dosing setup, and 015202 01/10/17 23:13 154 1) Basal dosing via proportional scaling You then click on the underlined reference number to read the posts. I highly recommend these and the tutorals that will follow to anyone using insulin. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Recently, some of you have raised questions about insulin dosing, such as Steve's question about basal dosing with Lantus and 's recent post re: fasting blood sugars in the 250 range. First, I strongly suggest that you get and read the book Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution for general information (if you haven't already). It's a necessity. I cannot really help with dosing issues since I am diet controlled. But, on another list -- Low Carb Diabetes or [LC-D] -- Ron Sebol is just beginning a series of tutorials re: dosing techniques, and he is starting with basal dosing. I understand that the techniques he has developed work regardless of one's WOE and can lead to really good control with minimal hypo risk. You do not have to join that list to access this information since the list's archives are open and can be referenced at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/lc-diabetes.html. You can then search the archives for Ron's posts by entering " ersebol@... " (without the quotes) in the author's address box on the search screen. The tutorials to date are: 015201 01/10/17 21:58 89 2) example of proportional scaling for basal dosing setup, and 015202 01/10/17 23:13 154 1) Basal dosing via proportional scaling You then click on the underlined reference number to read the posts. I highly recommend these and the tutorals that will follow to anyone using insulin. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 > Recently, some of you have raised questions about insulin dosing, such as > Steve's question about basal dosing with Lantus and 's recent post re: > fasting blood sugars in the 250 range. First, I strongly suggest that you > get and read the book Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution for general > information (if you haven't already). It's a necessity. I cannot really > help with dosing issues since I am diet controlled. > > But, on another list -- Low Carb Diabetes or [LC-D] -- Ron Sebol is just > beginning a series of tutorials re: dosing techniques, and he is starting > with basal dosing. I understand that the techniques he has developed work > regardless of one's WOE and can lead to really good control with minimal > hypo risk. You do not have to join that list to access this information > since the list's archives are open and can be referenced at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/lc-diabetes.html. > > You can then search the archives for Ron's posts by entering > " ersebol@E... " (without the quotes) > in the author's address box on the search screen. > > The tutorials to date are: > 015201 01/10/17 21:58 89 2) example of proportional scaling for basal > dosing setup, and > 015202 01/10/17 23:13 154 1) Basal dosing via proportional scaling > > You then click on the underlined reference number to read the posts. I > highly recommend these and the tutorals that will follow to anyone using > insulin. > thanks tom. i will check it out. mary > Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 From what I've read, Lantus is to replace, unit for unit, the other insulin you've been taking. I take this to mean that you total up the amount you've been taking for the day, and replace that total amount with one shot of Lantus before bed. If you've been supplimenting with oral medication, you should continue. Lantus's literature says you can take up to 100 units a day. Diet seems to be very, very important. For me, that means under 50 g of carbs a day. Anything more, and my b/g soars. After a week or so of increasing dosages, I've finally gotten to the replacement amount of Lantus, and I'm more in control in my target range. Is 12 units all the humalog you were taking in a day? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 > From what I've read, Lantus is to replace, unit for > unit, the other insulin you've been taking. I take > this to mean that you total up the amount you've been > taking for the day, and replace that total amount with > one shot of Lantus before bed. If you've been > supplimenting with oral medication, you should > continue. Lantus's literature says you can take up to > 100 units a day. Diet seems to be very, very > important. For me, that means under 50 g of carbs a > day. Anything more, and my b/g soars. > > After a week or so of increasing dosages, I've finally > gotten to the replacement amount of Lantus, and I'm > more in control in my target range. Is 12 units all > the humalog you were taking in a day? > hi steve, no I'm taking 15units of humalog at each meal. My doctor is very conservative I think. she started me out at 7 units which did absolutely nothing. I was on max oral drugs before I started the humalog, she took me off all of that. I don't like having that high a ready every morning. So what your saying is if I take 45 units of humalog a day I should be taking 45 units of lantus a night? thanks for any help. mary > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 << So what your saying is if I take 45 units of humalog a day I should be taking 45 units of lantus a night? thanks for any help. mary >> Oh, no, no NO, ! Those are two different kinds of insulin with different action curves. Are you a type 1 or 2? And how much Lantus are you taking now? I'm sorry, I don't remember the beginning of this thread... Never, ever make large increases in your insulin dose! All increases should be done in tiny, baby steps with at least a week's worth of data before changing to the next biggest increment. And you need to keep careful notes and test a LOT. Doing otherwise could be Very Dangerous! Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 << So what your saying is if I take 45 units of humalog a day I should be taking 45 units of lantus a night? thanks for any help. mary >> Oh, no, no NO, ! Those are two different kinds of insulin with different action curves. Are you a type 1 or 2? And how much Lantus are you taking now? I'm sorry, I don't remember the beginning of this thread... Never, ever make large increases in your insulin dose! All increases should be done in tiny, baby steps with at least a week's worth of data before changing to the next biggest increment. And you need to keep careful notes and test a LOT. Doing otherwise could be Very Dangerous! Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 << From what I've read, Lantus is to replace, unit for > unit, the other insulin you've been taking. I take > this to mean that you total up the amount you've been > taking for the day, and replace that total amount with > one shot of Lantus before bed. >> This is quite unclear and misleading (and dangerous), Steve...what I think you meant to say was to replace unit for unit the other BASAL insulin you're using. Also, from my own experience, Lantus requirement is LESS than any other basal insulin you're taking. For instance, before I switched to Lantus I was taking a total of 11 units of Ultralente split 5 and 6 units at two different times per day for basal. When I switched to Lantus I started at 7 units and had to decrease down to 5.5 units once a day, which is my current dose. . My Humalog dose continued to be basically the same (with some adjustment upwards) dosing based on carbs in that meal. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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