RE: Grandfathered PT maybe

[Guest guest]

I do know that some therapists that I have worked with did not have to pass

boards due to their affiliation/employment at the VA many years ago. I

believe they attended PT school but were not required to take the board exam

at that time.

Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

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[Guest guest]

I do know that some therapists that I have worked with did not have to pass

boards due to their affiliation/employment at the VA many years ago. I

believe they attended PT school but were not required to take the board exam

at that time.

Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

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[Guest guest]

I know in Ohio, the Grandfathered PTA's did not have to take state boards in

order to be grandfathered.

Kathy berger

Manager of PT/Wound Care

Mercy Medical Center

Canton, Ohio

Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

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[Guest guest]

I know in Ohio, the Grandfathered PTA's did not have to take state boards in

order to be grandfathered.

Kathy berger

Manager of PT/Wound Care

Mercy Medical Center

Canton, Ohio

Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

spass@...

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[Guest guest]

Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known

PTs & PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and

after passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking

the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of

license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the

implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

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[Guest guest]

I have heard of this in PA for the graduates of the original DT

program

I am unaware of this as a current practice or if it has ever been in Ky.

Ron Barbato P.T.

Corporate Director , Rehabilitation

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice (859 )239-1515

Fax (859 )936-7249

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Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

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[Guest guest]

I have heard of this in PA for the graduates of the original DT

program

I am unaware of this as a current practice or if it has ever been in Ky.

Ron Barbato P.T.

Corporate Director , Rehabilitation

Ephraim McDowell Health

Voice (859 )239-1515

Fax (859 )936-7249

rbarbato@...

" PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This transmission may contain information that

is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable

law. If you are not the intended recipient, then please do not read it and

be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the

information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY

PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately

advise me, by reply e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments

without retaining a copy in any form. Thank you. "

Grandfathered PT maybe

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

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[Guest guest]

Steve et. al.-

At one time, " the girl in the white coat " who worked for a doctor, and did

hot packs and ultrasound might be called a physical therapist. There was no

formal definition of who was, or wasn't a PT.

There were trained PTs practicing before licensure laws were passed. In

fact, it was those PTs who worked to have licensure. There was at one time

a national Registry for therapists, and that brought about the old " R.P.T. "

term. Many were RNs or Phys. Ed. teachers who went to a one-year

certificate course in physical therapy.

Believe it or not, the Bill of Rights (amendments to the U.S. Constitution.)

contains a " taking clause " which says that governments may not deprive

citizens of their rights or property without due process and compensation.

That applies to persons who are working in their trade or profession when

exclusionary laws (such as licensure laws) are passed.

Therefore therapists, and in many areas, PTAs, who had been practicing as

such for several years when the laws requiring licensure (and its

requirement for completion of educational programs, degree or certificate)

were passed would have had their livlihoods taken away by the State. That

" taking " would potentially be in violation of their civil rights.

So, the concept of recognizing that someone who'd been practicing for five,

ten or more years as a therapist would be allowed to simply pay the fees and

obtain a PT license without the imposition of educational qualifications was

appropriate.

Since many of our practice acts were passed 'way back before bilateral

symmetry (like, in the late '60s and '70s) there are probably few of those

folks still around. But there are indeed a few around this listserve.

I hope that sheds some light.

Dick Hillyer, R.P.T.

B.S. - UCONN '74 (Go Huskies!)

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

spass@...

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[Guest guest]

Steve et. al.-

At one time, " the girl in the white coat " who worked for a doctor, and did

hot packs and ultrasound might be called a physical therapist. There was no

formal definition of who was, or wasn't a PT.

There were trained PTs practicing before licensure laws were passed. In

fact, it was those PTs who worked to have licensure. There was at one time

a national Registry for therapists, and that brought about the old " R.P.T. "

term. Many were RNs or Phys. Ed. teachers who went to a one-year

certificate course in physical therapy.

Believe it or not, the Bill of Rights (amendments to the U.S. Constitution.)

contains a " taking clause " which says that governments may not deprive

citizens of their rights or property without due process and compensation.

That applies to persons who are working in their trade or profession when

exclusionary laws (such as licensure laws) are passed.

Therefore therapists, and in many areas, PTAs, who had been practicing as

such for several years when the laws requiring licensure (and its

requirement for completion of educational programs, degree or certificate)

were passed would have had their livlihoods taken away by the State. That

" taking " would potentially be in violation of their civil rights.

So, the concept of recognizing that someone who'd been practicing for five,

ten or more years as a therapist would be allowed to simply pay the fees and

obtain a PT license without the imposition of educational qualifications was

appropriate.

Since many of our practice acts were passed 'way back before bilateral

symmetry (like, in the late '60s and '70s) there are probably few of those

folks still around. But there are indeed a few around this listserve.

I hope that sheds some light.

Dick Hillyer, R.P.T.

B.S. - UCONN '74 (Go Huskies!)

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

spass@...

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[Guest guest]

Steve et. al.-

At one time, " the girl in the white coat " who worked for a doctor, and did

hot packs and ultrasound might be called a physical therapist. There was no

formal definition of who was, or wasn't a PT.

There were trained PTs practicing before licensure laws were passed. In

fact, it was those PTs who worked to have licensure. There was at one time

a national Registry for therapists, and that brought about the old " R.P.T. "

term. Many were RNs or Phys. Ed. teachers who went to a one-year

certificate course in physical therapy.

Believe it or not, the Bill of Rights (amendments to the U.S. Constitution.)

contains a " taking clause " which says that governments may not deprive

citizens of their rights or property without due process and compensation.

That applies to persons who are working in their trade or profession when

exclusionary laws (such as licensure laws) are passed.

Therefore therapists, and in many areas, PTAs, who had been practicing as

such for several years when the laws requiring licensure (and its

requirement for completion of educational programs, degree or certificate)

were passed would have had their livlihoods taken away by the State. That

" taking " would potentially be in violation of their civil rights.

So, the concept of recognizing that someone who'd been practicing for five,

ten or more years as a therapist would be allowed to simply pay the fees and

obtain a PT license without the imposition of educational qualifications was

appropriate.

Since many of our practice acts were passed 'way back before bilateral

symmetry (like, in the late '60s and '70s) there are probably few of those

folks still around. But there are indeed a few around this listserve.

I hope that sheds some light.

Dick Hillyer, R.P.T.

B.S. - UCONN '74 (Go Huskies!)

I ran into someone tonight that apparently did not take boards or go to

formal PT school; but, apparently had a PT license in Ky. I have known PTs

& PTAs in some states who were grandfathered in, with experience and after

passing boards. I just have never heard of this without taking the boards.

While I may be old, I'm not as old as dirt yet. Has anyone heard of license

without boards ? I'm just curious about our history and the implications.

Steve Passmore PT MS

spass@...

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