Re: New Labs with questions...

[Guest guest]

Adrenal antibodies means you have 's Disease. You need to get

onHC before fixing the thyroid issues. But your thyroi dissues are

serious, you have horridly high Rt3. more Armoru wil make this worse!

You need T3 only to clear ou t the excess T4 and RT3 in your system. But

Iwould certainyl be getting mroe indepth cortils and aldosterone labs to

see the extent of that and get it balanced before trying to fix the

thyroid issues. That si why you cannot retain minerals. Your aldosteorne

is proabbyl in the dirt.Though it is odd for someone with s to

have low potassium.

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[Guest guest]

Adrenal antibodies means you have 's Disease. You need to get

onHC before fixing the thyroid issues. But your thyroi dissues are

serious, you have horridly high Rt3. more Armoru wil make this worse!

You need T3 only to clear ou t the excess T4 and RT3 in your system. But

Iwould certainyl be getting mroe indepth cortils and aldosterone labs to

see the extent of that and get it balanced before trying to fix the

thyroid issues. That si why you cannot retain minerals. Your aldosteorne

is proabbyl in the dirt.Though it is odd for someone with s to

have low potassium.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Adrenal antibodies means you have 's Disease. You need to get

onHC before fixing the thyroid issues. But your thyroi dissues are

serious, you have horridly high Rt3. more Armoru wil make this worse!

You need T3 only to clear ou t the excess T4 and RT3 in your system. But

Iwould certainyl be getting mroe indepth cortils and aldosterone labs to

see the extent of that and get it balanced before trying to fix the

thyroid issues. That si why you cannot retain minerals. Your aldosteorne

is proabbyl in the dirt.Though it is odd for someone with s to

have low potassium.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Good morning, Ms Val, and thank you.

Now I was under the impression that 's meant that I was bordering on

death. Is it just a state of having antibodies?? Yes, I need the IsoCort, in

spite of what some folks think, in order to maintain some sense of humanity,

but.... My numbers aren't way out in the crazy zone like my thyroid antibodies

are... Slow and insidious, here we go again?

So cortisol, aldosterone... and T3 to get the RT3 down. I will have to see what

the urine test is for. I was given a goodie bag to take home... This doc is of

the mind that there are certain 24-hour urine tests that are better indicators

of adrenal and thyroid(?) function. Whatever it takes...

So, is there any possibility that I am taking too much Armour? Or is a lot of

this simply the result of resistance.. and how would one know the difference..

in the absense of symptoms?.. Of course, there are so many symptoms that share

both sides of the thyroid fence.. so, call me confused...

Thanks loads. I will continue to move forward. I appreciate your efforts.. and

the fact that you are willing to share your experience with me (and the rest of

us)

Never Give Up! jacqueline

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> Adrenal antibodies means you have 's Disease. You need to get > onHC

before fixing the thyroid issues. But your thyroi dissues are > serious, you

have horridly high Rt3. more Armoru wil make this worse! > You need T3 only to

clear ou t the excess T4 and RT3 in your system. But > Iwould certainyl be

getting mroe indepth cortils and aldosterone labs to > see the extent of that

and get it balanced before trying to fix the > thyroid issues. That si why you

cannot retain minerals. Your aldosteorne > is proabbyl in the dirt.Though it is

odd for someone with s to have low potassium.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning, Ms Val, and thank you.

Now I was under the impression that 's meant that I was bordering on

death. Is it just a state of having antibodies?? Yes, I need the IsoCort, in

spite of what some folks think, in order to maintain some sense of humanity,

but.... My numbers aren't way out in the crazy zone like my thyroid antibodies

are... Slow and insidious, here we go again?

So cortisol, aldosterone... and T3 to get the RT3 down. I will have to see what

the urine test is for. I was given a goodie bag to take home... This doc is of

the mind that there are certain 24-hour urine tests that are better indicators

of adrenal and thyroid(?) function. Whatever it takes...

So, is there any possibility that I am taking too much Armour? Or is a lot of

this simply the result of resistance.. and how would one know the difference..

in the absense of symptoms?.. Of course, there are so many symptoms that share

both sides of the thyroid fence.. so, call me confused...

Thanks loads. I will continue to move forward. I appreciate your efforts.. and

the fact that you are willing to share your experience with me (and the rest of

us)

Never Give Up! jacqueline

---------------------------------

> Adrenal antibodies means you have 's Disease. You need to get > onHC

before fixing the thyroid issues. But your thyroi dissues are > serious, you

have horridly high Rt3. more Armoru wil make this worse! > You need T3 only to

clear ou t the excess T4 and RT3 in your system. But > Iwould certainyl be

getting mroe indepth cortils and aldosterone labs to > see the extent of that

and get it balanced before trying to fix the > thyroid issues. That si why you

cannot retain minerals. Your aldosteorne > is proabbyl in the dirt.Though it is

odd for someone with s to have low potassium.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning, Ms Val, and thank you.

Now I was under the impression that 's meant that I was bordering on

death. Is it just a state of having antibodies?? Yes, I need the IsoCort, in

spite of what some folks think, in order to maintain some sense of humanity,

but.... My numbers aren't way out in the crazy zone like my thyroid antibodies

are... Slow and insidious, here we go again?

So cortisol, aldosterone... and T3 to get the RT3 down. I will have to see what

the urine test is for. I was given a goodie bag to take home... This doc is of

the mind that there are certain 24-hour urine tests that are better indicators

of adrenal and thyroid(?) function. Whatever it takes...

So, is there any possibility that I am taking too much Armour? Or is a lot of

this simply the result of resistance.. and how would one know the difference..

in the absense of symptoms?.. Of course, there are so many symptoms that share

both sides of the thyroid fence.. so, call me confused...

Thanks loads. I will continue to move forward. I appreciate your efforts.. and

the fact that you are willing to share your experience with me (and the rest of

us)

Never Give Up! jacqueline

---------------------------------

> Adrenal antibodies means you have 's Disease. You need to get > onHC

before fixing the thyroid issues. But your thyroi dissues are > serious, you

have horridly high Rt3. more Armoru wil make this worse! > You need T3 only to

clear ou t the excess T4 and RT3 in your system. But > Iwould certainyl be

getting mroe indepth cortils and aldosterone labs to > see the extent of that

and get it balanced before trying to fix the > thyroid issues. That si why you

cannot retain minerals. Your aldosteorne > is proabbyl in the dirt.Though it is

odd for someone with s to have low potassium.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

>

[Guest guest]

TSH <0.01 (0.35 - 4.82)

T3 243 H (70 - 190)(I asked for free.. oh well)

FT4 1.76 H (0.59 - 1.17)

Yes wiht T4 over range, it could be the RT3 was originally caused by too

much Armour or it could be you took too much armour to try ot resolve hypo

symtooms from already high RT3. Most lily will never know which came first,.

But reducing it I have not seen correct high RT3, thta takes pushing it out

of the receptors iwht T3 only.

Yes it is odd ot have 's wihtout being deadin the water as the

blood cortils ranges are SO bad you have ot be near death before they are

flagged for followup testign wiht adrnela antibodies. Yours is caught early

before it has ottally disrupted cortils production but it will. So I would

plan on full replacement NOW. There is no ned to worry about preserving

adnrela funciton wiht thoise antibodies present to take enough HC ot feel

well and tolerate thyroid properly.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

TSH <0.01 (0.35 - 4.82)

T3 243 H (70 - 190)(I asked for free.. oh well)

FT4 1.76 H (0.59 - 1.17)

Yes wiht T4 over range, it could be the RT3 was originally caused by too

much Armour or it could be you took too much armour to try ot resolve hypo

symtooms from already high RT3. Most lily will never know which came first,.

But reducing it I have not seen correct high RT3, thta takes pushing it out

of the receptors iwht T3 only.

Yes it is odd ot have 's wihtout being deadin the water as the

blood cortils ranges are SO bad you have ot be near death before they are

flagged for followup testign wiht adrnela antibodies. Yours is caught early

before it has ottally disrupted cortils production but it will. So I would

plan on full replacement NOW. There is no ned to worry about preserving

adnrela funciton wiht thoise antibodies present to take enough HC ot feel

well and tolerate thyroid properly.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

TSH <0.01 (0.35 - 4.82)

T3 243 H (70 - 190)(I asked for free.. oh well)

FT4 1.76 H (0.59 - 1.17)

Yes wiht T4 over range, it could be the RT3 was originally caused by too

much Armour or it could be you took too much armour to try ot resolve hypo

symtooms from already high RT3. Most lily will never know which came first,.

But reducing it I have not seen correct high RT3, thta takes pushing it out

of the receptors iwht T3 only.

Yes it is odd ot have 's wihtout being deadin the water as the

blood cortils ranges are SO bad you have ot be near death before they are

flagged for followup testign wiht adrnela antibodies. Yours is caught early

before it has ottally disrupted cortils production but it will. So I would

plan on full replacement NOW. There is no ned to worry about preserving

adnrela funciton wiht thoise antibodies present to take enough HC ot feel

well and tolerate thyroid properly.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Well, I guess I have my work cut out for me.

I want to say my T3 jumped over the range before my T4 did, if that means

anything. I have been chasing symptoms, quite conservatively, actually...

When I started Synthroid, initially, I got an immediate boost in energy. I

became Wonder Woman. I was told later that that was in my head, because only

people who are comatose respond that quickly.. I still laugh.

I guess it don't really matter how I got here.. I am here and need to get out of

this hole...

I suspect my father was probably somewhere in this vacinity as well. After the

fact, we see so many things in him, thyroid (he wouldn't take Synthroid, go

figure), adrenals, Celiac.. Couldn't he have just given me his charming

personality and blue eyes? God bless him!

ok, I'm rambled out, this time... j

[Guest guest]

Well, I guess I have my work cut out for me.

I want to say my T3 jumped over the range before my T4 did, if that means

anything. I have been chasing symptoms, quite conservatively, actually...

When I started Synthroid, initially, I got an immediate boost in energy. I

became Wonder Woman. I was told later that that was in my head, because only

people who are comatose respond that quickly.. I still laugh.

I guess it don't really matter how I got here.. I am here and need to get out of

this hole...

I suspect my father was probably somewhere in this vacinity as well. After the

fact, we see so many things in him, thyroid (he wouldn't take Synthroid, go

figure), adrenals, Celiac.. Couldn't he have just given me his charming

personality and blue eyes? God bless him!

ok, I'm rambled out, this time... j

[Guest guest]

Hey there Ms Val,

So, when you typed 'cortils', it wasn't a typo of cortisol. Silly me for

assuming when I didn't know exactly what that meant. I noticed you typed the

same thing in another message. Is there more than one we can have tested or are

you referring to the saliva testing collection method of 4 throughout the day?

Pardon my ignorance.

Thanks loads for ll you do, j

[Guest guest]

Hey there Ms Val,

So, when you typed 'cortils', it wasn't a typo of cortisol. Silly me for

assuming when I didn't know exactly what that meant. I noticed you typed the

same thing in another message. Is there more than one we can have tested or are

you referring to the saliva testing collection method of 4 throughout the day?

Pardon my ignorance.

Thanks loads for ll you do, j

[Guest guest]

Hey there Ms Val,

So, when you typed 'cortils', it wasn't a typo of cortisol. Silly me for

assuming when I didn't know exactly what that meant. I noticed you typed the

same thing in another message. Is there more than one we can have tested or are

you referring to the saliva testing collection method of 4 throughout the day?

Pardon my ignorance.

Thanks loads for ll you do, j

[Guest guest]

Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just

never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I

will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just

never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I

will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just

never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I

will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

I have words I mistype the same way all the time myself. I guess we are

creatures of habit...Thanks for the clarification. Definitely, don't miss

lunch... j

>

> Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just >

never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I >

will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!

[Guest guest]

I have words I mistype the same way all the time myself. I guess we are

creatures of habit...Thanks for the clarification. Definitely, don't miss

lunch... j

>

> Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just >

never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I >

will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!

[Guest guest]

I have words I mistype the same way all the time myself. I guess we are

creatures of habit...Thanks for the clarification. Definitely, don't miss

lunch... j

>

> Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just >

never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I >

will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!

[Guest guest]

Hey Val, dont change your typos! Its part of your personality...were used to it( :

Subject: Re: New Labs with questions...To: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:16 AM

I have words I mistype the same way all the time myself. I guess we are creatures of habit...Thanks for the clarification. Definitely, don't miss lunch... j>> Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just > never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I > will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hey Val, dont change your typos! Its part of your personality...were used to it( :

Subject: Re: New Labs with questions...To: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:16 AM

I have words I mistype the same way all the time myself. I guess we are creatures of habit...Thanks for the clarification. Definitely, don't miss lunch... j>> Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just > never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I > will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hey Val, dont change your typos! Its part of your personality...were used to it( :

Subject: Re: New Labs with questions...To: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:16 AM

I have words I mistype the same way all the time myself. I guess we are creatures of habit...Thanks for the clarification. Definitely, don't miss lunch... j>> Yes thta is my typo for cortisol. I do the same typo all the time, I just > never have time ot go in and correct it, for instance if I keep typing now I > will screw myself out of my lunch! lOL See ya later!------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

> Right now, I am pretty much working on blind faith.. and I have been told

that might not be the best was to proceed.. ;o)

Nothing wrong with faith. That is the force that keeps us looking,

trying......... Trust that faith will bring us what we need helps also.

I have certainly received a lot of helpful ideas here.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

> http://www.absolutehealthandhealing.com/articles/BCH_Thyroid_Assessment.pdf

Great article. Lots of goodies.

" Potassium plays a role in sensitizing the mitochondria to

thyroid hormone. " Low Pot = tissue resistance maybe.

" A range of vitamins and minerals are required for energy production in the

glycolysis and carboxylic acid cycles in the mitochondria. If these co-factors

are missing or toxins block steps in the pathway, thyroid

hormone will be ineffective in increasing energy production. " It takes energy to

get nutrients into the cell and toxins out.

" Even if circulating hormone levels are normal and hormones can be absorbed into

the cells, when tissue potassium is low they may not be utilized, resulting in a

low thyroid effect. This commonly contributes to thyroid problems in slow

metabolizers. Potassium supplements rarely help because the problem is a loss of

potassium due to kidney dysfunction and electrical imbalances at the cellular

level. " But normalizing/raising the pH has seemed to raise my temps some, so

might be one way to help balance electrical imbalances at the cellular level.

Dorothy