Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 As I explained in previous post - the doctor who performed the 2nd myo touted the laser as a preventative for future fibroid growth -therefore he charged more for his surgery as compared to other surgeons. Now using a laser may indeed cost more for him - but fact is this man makes a tremendous amount of money on performing myo's. A physician is making money - a surgeon makes money. Some are in areas of expertise that make more money than others. This is the impression that I came away with concerning that situation. >> Sadly,a lot of doctors cannot be trusted. I am interested in your comments re:Myomectomy is $ making.In what context do you see this? A third myomectomy for me is not an option as far as I've been told. UAE is also not an option because I am not a candidate for a number of reasons. " Almost " is the operative word here. And let me just add here that after the 2nd myo I swore I would NEVER go through that pain again. I don't know if I felt such pain because the doctor said he put my uterus back together " like a jigsaw puzzle " but it was really bad compared to the 1st myo and any other surgeries that I've had - and I'm not a wimp when it comes to pain. But I was told by him while I was still in the hospital recovering that a 3rd myo would not be an option and have been told that by 3 doctor's since. WE all have different options because we don't all have the same, exact problems. If I were able to have another myo I would see that answer to my problems despite what I said about the pain! >> Myomectomy is almost ALWAYS an option although myomectomy on a large uterus,numerous fibroids and/or a woman past childbearing is not " standard medical practise " .So,one can see literally 1,000 doctors and they would all advise a hysterectomy but that would not mean that myomectomy was not feasible, reasonable,or effective. It would mean that connnecting with someone outside of standard medical practise had not been accomplished. Laser is another way of cutting.Invest in high tech. and that investment is usually passed on to the consumer.Laser is not necessary for an effective and safe surgery.The one holding the laser/scapel is the key Best, Bonnie didigirl12000 wrote: > Hi guys. I'm not sure how to cut and paste your messages and then > respond on a post so I'll try to remember what I want to respond to: > > someone asked me how large my uterus was: the size of a 5 or 6 month > pregnancy - right below my belly button, according to the lab > technician when I have sonograms: " you have a huge mass inside you > pushing and smashing your internal organs. " . The technicians have > trouble seeing and finding ovaries and other organs etc. when doing > the sonograms- so it's that large. > > Yes I have to live with the symptoms - of course there are many. I had > a sonogram last month and they found fluid in one of the tubes to the > kidney (ureter?) which could lead to serious problems if left alone. I > have to have a series of urine type tests. I was planning to go one > morning this week but have to wait until my daughter goes back to > school - she's home sick! > > I have had MORE THAN a second opinion regarding another myomectomy - > not an option. > > Also - I just expressed my opinion previously about women who post on > that " hysterectomy website " . The fact is myomectomy is also a money > making operation - I think I learned that the hard way by explaining > that my doctor touted " laser myomectomy " as better and made promises > that didn't pan out. I also paid a lot more for that myomectomy in > comparision to what other surgeons charge for their myomectomies. > > A lot of women go to doctors their whole lives with no serious > problems and have them taken care of uneventfully - therefore they put > trust in their doctor. I don't think it is unusual that we don't > research and res Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 I don't think we can say that myomectomy as a procedure can compare to the hysterectomy as an industry.Naturally any surgeon will charge.We can't expect people to work for nothing,but a great deal more skill and time is required to become good at myomectomy In fact as I shopped for a good myomectomy surgeon the costs were not more for a myo than for a hysterectomy ..I would not understand why a laser would be more effective at preventing future growth . I'm sorry that you had such a hard time post-operatively.I had 2 myos and neither were particularly painful. It would be very discouraging to face yet a 3rd surgery.I suppose I am holding out hope that the guy with the laser maybe is not the one to trust the most regarding an opinion about a 3rd myo.I guess I would hope that one of the myo surgeons who are among those frequently mentioned on this group might hold another opinion. Best of luck Bonnie didigirl12000 wrote: > As I explained in previous post - the doctor who performed the 2nd myo > touted the laser as a preventative for future fibroid growth > -therefore he charged more for his surgery as compared to other > surgeons. Now using a laser may indeed cost more for him - but fact is > this man makes a tremendous amount of money on performing myo's. A > physician is making money - a surgeon makes money. Some are in areas > of expertise that make more money than others. This is the impression > that I came away with concerning that situation. > > >> > > Sadly,a lot of doctors cannot be trusted. > I am interested in your comments re:Myomectomy is $ > making.In what context do > you see this? > A third myomectomy for me is not an option as far as I've been told. > UAE is also not an option because I am not a candidate for a number of > reasons. " Almost " is the operative word here. And let me just add here > that after the 2nd myo I swore I would NEVER go through that pain > again. I don't know if I felt such pain because the doctor said he > put my uterus back together " like a jigsaw puzzle " but it was > really bad compared to the 1st myo and any other surgeries that I've > had - and I'm not a wimp when it comes to pain. But I was told by him > while I was still in the hospital recovering that a 3rd myo would not > be an option and have been told that by 3 doctor's since. WE all have > different options because we don't all have the same, exact problems. > If I were able to have another myo I would see that answer to my > problems despite what I said about the pain! > > > >> > Myomectomy is almost ALWAYS an option although myomectomy > on a large > uterus,numerous fibroids and/or > a woman past childbearing is not " standard medical > practise " .So,one can see > literally 1,000 doctors > and they would all advise a hysterectomy but that > would not > mean that > myomectomy was not feasible, > reasonable,or effective. It would mean that > connnecting > with someone outside of > standard medical > practise had not been accomplished. > Laser is another way of cutting.Invest in high tech. > and that investment is > usually passed on to the > consumer.Laser is not necessary for an effective and > safe surgery.The one > holding the laser/scapel is > the key > Best, > Bonnie > > didigirl12000 wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm not sure how to cut and paste your > messages and then > > respond on a post so I'll try to remember what I > want to respond to: > > > > someone asked me how large my uterus was: the size > of a 5 or 6 month > > pregnancy - right below my belly button, according > to the lab > > technician when I have sonograms: " you have a huge > mass inside you > > pushing and smashing your internal organs. " . The > technicians have > > trouble seeing and finding ovaries and other organs > etc. when doing > > the sonograms- so it's that large. > > > > Yes I have to live with the symptoms - of course > there are many. I had > > a sonogram last month and they found fluid in one of > the tubes to the > > kidney (ureter?) which could lead to serious > problems if left alone. I > > have to have a series of urine type tests. I was > planning to go one > > morning this week but have to wait until my daughter > goes back to > > school - she's home sick! > > > > I have had MORE THAN a second opinion regarding > another myomectomy - > > not an option. > > > > Also - I just expressed my opinion previously about > women who post on > > that " hysterectomy website " . The fact is myomectomy > is also a money > > making operation - I think I learned that the hard > way by explaining > > that my doctor touted " laser myomectomy " as better > and made promises > > that didn't pan out. I also paid a lot more for that > myomectomy in > > comparision to what other surgeons charge for their > myomectomies. > > > > A lot of women go to doctors their whole lives with > no serious > > problems and have them taken care of uneventfully - > therefore they put > > trust in their doctor. I don't think it is unusual > that we don't > > research and res > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 I don't think we can say that myomectomy as a procedure can compare to the hysterectomy as an industry.Naturally any surgeon will charge.We can't expect people to work for nothing,but a great deal more skill and time is required to become good at myomectomy In fact as I shopped for a good myomectomy surgeon the costs were not more for a myo than for a hysterectomy ..I would not understand why a laser would be more effective at preventing future growth . I'm sorry that you had such a hard time post-operatively.I had 2 myos and neither were particularly painful. It would be very discouraging to face yet a 3rd surgery.I suppose I am holding out hope that the guy with the laser maybe is not the one to trust the most regarding an opinion about a 3rd myo.I guess I would hope that one of the myo surgeons who are among those frequently mentioned on this group might hold another opinion. Best of luck Bonnie didigirl12000 wrote: > As I explained in previous post - the doctor who performed the 2nd myo > touted the laser as a preventative for future fibroid growth > -therefore he charged more for his surgery as compared to other > surgeons. Now using a laser may indeed cost more for him - but fact is > this man makes a tremendous amount of money on performing myo's. A > physician is making money - a surgeon makes money. Some are in areas > of expertise that make more money than others. This is the impression > that I came away with concerning that situation. > > >> > > Sadly,a lot of doctors cannot be trusted. > I am interested in your comments re:Myomectomy is $ > making.In what context do > you see this? > A third myomectomy for me is not an option as far as I've been told. > UAE is also not an option because I am not a candidate for a number of > reasons. " Almost " is the operative word here. And let me just add here > that after the 2nd myo I swore I would NEVER go through that pain > again. I don't know if I felt such pain because the doctor said he > put my uterus back together " like a jigsaw puzzle " but it was > really bad compared to the 1st myo and any other surgeries that I've > had - and I'm not a wimp when it comes to pain. But I was told by him > while I was still in the hospital recovering that a 3rd myo would not > be an option and have been told that by 3 doctor's since. WE all have > different options because we don't all have the same, exact problems. > If I were able to have another myo I would see that answer to my > problems despite what I said about the pain! > > > >> > Myomectomy is almost ALWAYS an option although myomectomy > on a large > uterus,numerous fibroids and/or > a woman past childbearing is not " standard medical > practise " .So,one can see > literally 1,000 doctors > and they would all advise a hysterectomy but that > would not > mean that > myomectomy was not feasible, > reasonable,or effective. It would mean that > connnecting > with someone outside of > standard medical > practise had not been accomplished. > Laser is another way of cutting.Invest in high tech. > and that investment is > usually passed on to the > consumer.Laser is not necessary for an effective and > safe surgery.The one > holding the laser/scapel is > the key > Best, > Bonnie > > didigirl12000 wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm not sure how to cut and paste your > messages and then > > respond on a post so I'll try to remember what I > want to respond to: > > > > someone asked me how large my uterus was: the size > of a 5 or 6 month > > pregnancy - right below my belly button, according > to the lab > > technician when I have sonograms: " you have a huge > mass inside you > > pushing and smashing your internal organs. " . The > technicians have > > trouble seeing and finding ovaries and other organs > etc. when doing > > the sonograms- so it's that large. > > > > Yes I have to live with the symptoms - of course > there are many. I had > > a sonogram last month and they found fluid in one of > the tubes to the > > kidney (ureter?) which could lead to serious > problems if left alone. I > > have to have a series of urine type tests. I was > planning to go one > > morning this week but have to wait until my daughter > goes back to > > school - she's home sick! > > > > I have had MORE THAN a second opinion regarding > another myomectomy - > > not an option. > > > > Also - I just expressed my opinion previously about > women who post on > > that " hysterectomy website " . The fact is myomectomy > is also a money > > making operation - I think I learned that the hard > way by explaining > > that my doctor touted " laser myomectomy " as better > and made promises > > that didn't pan out. I also paid a lot more for that > myomectomy in > > comparision to what other surgeons charge for their > myomectomies. > > > > A lot of women go to doctors their whole lives with > no serious > > problems and have them taken care of uneventfully - > therefore they put > > trust in their doctor. I don't think it is unusual > that we don't > > research and res > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 I don't think we can say that myomectomy as a procedure can compare to the hysterectomy as an industry.Naturally any surgeon will charge.We can't expect people to work for nothing,but a great deal more skill and time is required to become good at myomectomy In fact as I shopped for a good myomectomy surgeon the costs were not more for a myo than for a hysterectomy ..I would not understand why a laser would be more effective at preventing future growth . I'm sorry that you had such a hard time post-operatively.I had 2 myos and neither were particularly painful. It would be very discouraging to face yet a 3rd surgery.I suppose I am holding out hope that the guy with the laser maybe is not the one to trust the most regarding an opinion about a 3rd myo.I guess I would hope that one of the myo surgeons who are among those frequently mentioned on this group might hold another opinion. Best of luck Bonnie didigirl12000 wrote: > As I explained in previous post - the doctor who performed the 2nd myo > touted the laser as a preventative for future fibroid growth > -therefore he charged more for his surgery as compared to other > surgeons. Now using a laser may indeed cost more for him - but fact is > this man makes a tremendous amount of money on performing myo's. A > physician is making money - a surgeon makes money. Some are in areas > of expertise that make more money than others. This is the impression > that I came away with concerning that situation. > > >> > > Sadly,a lot of doctors cannot be trusted. > I am interested in your comments re:Myomectomy is $ > making.In what context do > you see this? > A third myomectomy for me is not an option as far as I've been told. > UAE is also not an option because I am not a candidate for a number of > reasons. " Almost " is the operative word here. And let me just add here > that after the 2nd myo I swore I would NEVER go through that pain > again. I don't know if I felt such pain because the doctor said he > put my uterus back together " like a jigsaw puzzle " but it was > really bad compared to the 1st myo and any other surgeries that I've > had - and I'm not a wimp when it comes to pain. But I was told by him > while I was still in the hospital recovering that a 3rd myo would not > be an option and have been told that by 3 doctor's since. WE all have > different options because we don't all have the same, exact problems. > If I were able to have another myo I would see that answer to my > problems despite what I said about the pain! > > > >> > Myomectomy is almost ALWAYS an option although myomectomy > on a large > uterus,numerous fibroids and/or > a woman past childbearing is not " standard medical > practise " .So,one can see > literally 1,000 doctors > and they would all advise a hysterectomy but that > would not > mean that > myomectomy was not feasible, > reasonable,or effective. It would mean that > connnecting > with someone outside of > standard medical > practise had not been accomplished. > Laser is another way of cutting.Invest in high tech. > and that investment is > usually passed on to the > consumer.Laser is not necessary for an effective and > safe surgery.The one > holding the laser/scapel is > the key > Best, > Bonnie > > didigirl12000 wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm not sure how to cut and paste your > messages and then > > respond on a post so I'll try to remember what I > want to respond to: > > > > someone asked me how large my uterus was: the size > of a 5 or 6 month > > pregnancy - right below my belly button, according > to the lab > > technician when I have sonograms: " you have a huge > mass inside you > > pushing and smashing your internal organs. " . The > technicians have > > trouble seeing and finding ovaries and other organs > etc. when doing > > the sonograms- so it's that large. > > > > Yes I have to live with the symptoms - of course > there are many. I had > > a sonogram last month and they found fluid in one of > the tubes to the > > kidney (ureter?) which could lead to serious > problems if left alone. I > > have to have a series of urine type tests. I was > planning to go one > > morning this week but have to wait until my daughter > goes back to > > school - she's home sick! > > > > I have had MORE THAN a second opinion regarding > another myomectomy - > > not an option. > > > > Also - I just expressed my opinion previously about > women who post on > > that " hysterectomy website " . The fact is myomectomy > is also a money > > making operation - I think I learned that the hard > way by explaining > > that my doctor touted " laser myomectomy " as better > and made promises > > that didn't pan out. I also paid a lot more for that > myomectomy in > > comparision to what other surgeons charge for their > myomectomies. > > > > A lot of women go to doctors their whole lives with > no serious > > problems and have them taken care of uneventfully - > therefore they put > > trust in their doctor. I don't think it is unusual > that we don't > > research and res > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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