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Hi everyone....

I wanted to ask for advice and information regarding medication and

behaviors. My child Nicolas is 5 and has had pretty severe negative

behaviors for the previous 3 years. He bites,pinches,pulls hair and

is starting to hit. We have tried NUMEROUS behavioral approaches and

some medications. Basically he is getting bigger and stronger and

there is a concern for safety. I work at the University of Oregon and

we have some wonderful resources and world renowned professors who

have tried to help us all without much success. We know the triggers

but Nic also is compulsive and a lot of the times there is no trigger

that is visable. Our develpomental Ped. tells us that he seems very

disorganized and obsessive compulsive. We also have discovered that

Nic has a fast metabolism and burns through the medication about

twice as fast as others. Nic also has been labeled Autistic. This

actually has opened the door to many school options that are not

available to children wihtout the label. Here is is alst of what we

have tried and the doses. I am curious to hear what others have used

and at what dosage's seem helpful.

Risperdial- 1.mg liquid. We have tried up to 2. mg per day. some

calming but not much help with the behaviors. He has been taking

aprox. 1 year. (The product insert talks of much higher doses has

anyone used like 5. or 6. mg per day?)

Ativan- 0.5mg tablets. We have discountinued this med. We tried

giving up to 2.mg at a time to try to calm him down for medical

appts. but instead of calming him it HYPED him up. The Dr. told us he

should have been snoring with the amount we gave him. (paradoxal

effect?)

Paxil- tried for only about 3 weeks. Might look at again.

Clonidine- 0.1mg tablets. Dose 1/4 tablet every 4 hours. WE JUST

STARTED THIS YESTERDAY!

Nic weighs 45 pounds.

If you are using or have used meds. with your children please respond

with the types, dosages, and degree that they helped please. also I

am curious if you use more than 1 med at a time.

Thank you very much.

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Give the clonidine a chance and see if you notice any improvement. You

might want to look through the digest. There were several posts about

clonidine in the last couple weeks. Kim Lauger

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>

>To: CHARGE

>Subject: Medications and behaviors.

>Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2002, 8:25 AM

>

> Hi everyone....

> I wanted to ask for advice and information regarding medication and

> behaviors. My child Nicolas is 5 and has had pretty severe negative

> behaviors for the previous 3 years. He bites,pinches,pulls hair and

> is starting to hit. We have tried NUMEROUS behavioral approaches and

> some medications. Basically he is getting bigger and stronger and

> there is a concern for safety. I work at the University of Oregon and

> we have some wonderful resources and world renowned professors who

> have tried to help us all without much success. We know the triggers

> but Nic also is compulsive and a lot of the times there is no trigger

> that is visable. Our develpomental Ped. tells us that he seems very

> disorganized and obsessive compulsive. We also have discovered that

> Nic has a fast metabolism and burns through the medication about

> twice as fast as others. Nic also has been labeled Autistic. This

> actually has opened the door to many school options that are not

> available to children wihtout the label. Here is is alst of what we

> have tried and the doses. I am curious to hear what others have used

> and at what dosage's seem helpful.

>

> Risperdial- 1.mg liquid. We have tried up to 2. mg per day. some

> calming but not much help with the behaviors. He has been taking

> aprox. 1 year. (The product insert talks of much higher doses has

> anyone used like 5. or 6. mg per day?)

>

> Ativan- 0.5mg tablets. We have discountinued this med. We tried

> giving up to 2.mg at a time to try to calm him down for medical

> appts. but instead of calming him it HYPED him up. The Dr. told us he

> should have been snoring with the amount we gave him. (paradoxal

> effect?)

>

> Paxil- tried for only about 3 weeks. Might look at again.

>

> Clonidine- 0.1mg tablets. Dose 1/4 tablet every 4 hours. WE JUST

> STARTED THIS YESTERDAY!

>

> Nic weighs 45 pounds.

>

> If you are using or have used meds. with your children please respond

> with the types, dosages, and degree that they helped please. also I

> am curious if you use more than 1 med at a time.

>

> Thank you very much.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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Give the clonidine a chance and see if you notice any improvement. You

might want to look through the digest. There were several posts about

clonidine in the last couple weeks. Kim Lauger

----------

>

>To: CHARGE

>Subject: Medications and behaviors.

>Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2002, 8:25 AM

>

> Hi everyone....

> I wanted to ask for advice and information regarding medication and

> behaviors. My child Nicolas is 5 and has had pretty severe negative

> behaviors for the previous 3 years. He bites,pinches,pulls hair and

> is starting to hit. We have tried NUMEROUS behavioral approaches and

> some medications. Basically he is getting bigger and stronger and

> there is a concern for safety. I work at the University of Oregon and

> we have some wonderful resources and world renowned professors who

> have tried to help us all without much success. We know the triggers

> but Nic also is compulsive and a lot of the times there is no trigger

> that is visable. Our develpomental Ped. tells us that he seems very

> disorganized and obsessive compulsive. We also have discovered that

> Nic has a fast metabolism and burns through the medication about

> twice as fast as others. Nic also has been labeled Autistic. This

> actually has opened the door to many school options that are not

> available to children wihtout the label. Here is is alst of what we

> have tried and the doses. I am curious to hear what others have used

> and at what dosage's seem helpful.

>

> Risperdial- 1.mg liquid. We have tried up to 2. mg per day. some

> calming but not much help with the behaviors. He has been taking

> aprox. 1 year. (The product insert talks of much higher doses has

> anyone used like 5. or 6. mg per day?)

>

> Ativan- 0.5mg tablets. We have discountinued this med. We tried

> giving up to 2.mg at a time to try to calm him down for medical

> appts. but instead of calming him it HYPED him up. The Dr. told us he

> should have been snoring with the amount we gave him. (paradoxal

> effect?)

>

> Paxil- tried for only about 3 weeks. Might look at again.

>

> Clonidine- 0.1mg tablets. Dose 1/4 tablet every 4 hours. WE JUST

> STARTED THIS YESTERDAY!

>

> Nic weighs 45 pounds.

>

> If you are using or have used meds. with your children please respond

> with the types, dosages, and degree that they helped please. also I

> am curious if you use more than 1 med at a time.

>

> Thank you very much.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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Give the clonidine a chance and see if you notice any improvement. You

might want to look through the digest. There were several posts about

clonidine in the last couple weeks. Kim Lauger

----------

>

>To: CHARGE

>Subject: Medications and behaviors.

>Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2002, 8:25 AM

>

> Hi everyone....

> I wanted to ask for advice and information regarding medication and

> behaviors. My child Nicolas is 5 and has had pretty severe negative

> behaviors for the previous 3 years. He bites,pinches,pulls hair and

> is starting to hit. We have tried NUMEROUS behavioral approaches and

> some medications. Basically he is getting bigger and stronger and

> there is a concern for safety. I work at the University of Oregon and

> we have some wonderful resources and world renowned professors who

> have tried to help us all without much success. We know the triggers

> but Nic also is compulsive and a lot of the times there is no trigger

> that is visable. Our develpomental Ped. tells us that he seems very

> disorganized and obsessive compulsive. We also have discovered that

> Nic has a fast metabolism and burns through the medication about

> twice as fast as others. Nic also has been labeled Autistic. This

> actually has opened the door to many school options that are not

> available to children wihtout the label. Here is is alst of what we

> have tried and the doses. I am curious to hear what others have used

> and at what dosage's seem helpful.

>

> Risperdial- 1.mg liquid. We have tried up to 2. mg per day. some

> calming but not much help with the behaviors. He has been taking

> aprox. 1 year. (The product insert talks of much higher doses has

> anyone used like 5. or 6. mg per day?)

>

> Ativan- 0.5mg tablets. We have discountinued this med. We tried

> giving up to 2.mg at a time to try to calm him down for medical

> appts. but instead of calming him it HYPED him up. The Dr. told us he

> should have been snoring with the amount we gave him. (paradoxal

> effect?)

>

> Paxil- tried for only about 3 weeks. Might look at again.

>

> Clonidine- 0.1mg tablets. Dose 1/4 tablet every 4 hours. WE JUST

> STARTED THIS YESTERDAY!

>

> Nic weighs 45 pounds.

>

> If you are using or have used meds. with your children please respond

> with the types, dosages, and degree that they helped please. also I

> am curious if you use more than 1 med at a time.

>

> Thank you very much.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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Just to jump in here, we are considering clonidine for Kennedy also. Keep me

posted on Nic and I will keep you posted on Kennedy.

~ Weir

Mom to Kennedy, 4yr old CHARGEr, 13, 11, and wife to Graeme

New Brunswick, Canada

Visit the Weir Website: http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir

ICQ# 1426476

Medications and behaviors.

>Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2002, 8:25 AM

>

> Hi everyone....

> I wanted to ask for advice and information regarding medication and

> behaviors. My child Nicolas is 5 and has had pretty severe negative

> behaviors for the previous 3 years. He bites,pinches,pulls hair and

> is starting to hit. We have tried NUMEROUS behavioral approaches and

> some medications. Basically he is getting bigger and stronger and

> there is a concern for safety. I work at the University of Oregon and

> we have some wonderful resources and world renowned professors who

> have tried to help us all without much success. We know the triggers

> but Nic also is compulsive and a lot of the times there is no trigger

> that is visable. Our develpomental Ped. tells us that he seems very

> disorganized and obsessive compulsive. We also have discovered that

> Nic has a fast metabolism and burns through the medication about

> twice as fast as others. Nic also has been labeled Autistic. This

> actually has opened the door to many school options that are not

> available to children wihtout the label. Here is is alst of what we

> have tried and the doses. I am curious to hear what others have used

> and at what dosage's seem helpful.

>

> Risperdial- 1.mg liquid. We have tried up to 2. mg per day. some

> calming but not much help with the behaviors. He has been taking

> aprox. 1 year. (The product insert talks of much higher doses has

> anyone used like 5. or 6. mg per day?)

>

> Ativan- 0.5mg tablets. We have discountinued this med. We tried

> giving up to 2.mg at a time to try to calm him down for medical

> appts. but instead of calming him it HYPED him up. The Dr. told us he

> should have been snoring with the amount we gave him. (paradoxal

> effect?)

>

> Paxil- tried for only about 3 weeks. Might look at again.

>

> Clonidine- 0.1mg tablets. Dose 1/4 tablet every 4 hours. WE JUST

> STARTED THIS YESTERDAY!

>

> Nic weighs 45 pounds.

>

> If you are using or have used meds. with your children please respond

> with the types, dosages, and degree that they helped please. also I

> am curious if you use more than 1 med at a time.

>

> Thank you very much.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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Just to jump in here, we are considering clonidine for Kennedy also. Keep me

posted on Nic and I will keep you posted on Kennedy.

~ Weir

Mom to Kennedy, 4yr old CHARGEr, 13, 11, and wife to Graeme

New Brunswick, Canada

Visit the Weir Website: http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir

ICQ# 1426476

Medications and behaviors.

>Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2002, 8:25 AM

>

> Hi everyone....

> I wanted to ask for advice and information regarding medication and

> behaviors. My child Nicolas is 5 and has had pretty severe negative

> behaviors for the previous 3 years. He bites,pinches,pulls hair and

> is starting to hit. We have tried NUMEROUS behavioral approaches and

> some medications. Basically he is getting bigger and stronger and

> there is a concern for safety. I work at the University of Oregon and

> we have some wonderful resources and world renowned professors who

> have tried to help us all without much success. We know the triggers

> but Nic also is compulsive and a lot of the times there is no trigger

> that is visable. Our develpomental Ped. tells us that he seems very

> disorganized and obsessive compulsive. We also have discovered that

> Nic has a fast metabolism and burns through the medication about

> twice as fast as others. Nic also has been labeled Autistic. This

> actually has opened the door to many school options that are not

> available to children wihtout the label. Here is is alst of what we

> have tried and the doses. I am curious to hear what others have used

> and at what dosage's seem helpful.

>

> Risperdial- 1.mg liquid. We have tried up to 2. mg per day. some

> calming but not much help with the behaviors. He has been taking

> aprox. 1 year. (The product insert talks of much higher doses has

> anyone used like 5. or 6. mg per day?)

>

> Ativan- 0.5mg tablets. We have discountinued this med. We tried

> giving up to 2.mg at a time to try to calm him down for medical

> appts. but instead of calming him it HYPED him up. The Dr. told us he

> should have been snoring with the amount we gave him. (paradoxal

> effect?)

>

> Paxil- tried for only about 3 weeks. Might look at again.

>

> Clonidine- 0.1mg tablets. Dose 1/4 tablet every 4 hours. WE JUST

> STARTED THIS YESTERDAY!

>

> Nic weighs 45 pounds.

>

> If you are using or have used meds. with your children please respond

> with the types, dosages, and degree that they helped please. also I

> am curious if you use more than 1 med at a time.

>

> Thank you very much.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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At this point right now Patty is on 2 mg. of Risperdal. She has been

up to four. It seems like there is a constant game of what amount works.

Sometimes you need more, sometimes you need less. She takes this for Tics but

it also helps with OCD behaviors as well as her mood. We can tell if she has

missed a dose or not. Patty has been taking her own meds for years now.

First she was only on the Risperdal and it worked wonders. But after

years she had some side effects-extreme fatigue-and her tics came back. They

then they experimented and put her on a combination of Risperdal and another

med called Quanfacine. The two together worked well for a while. But since

she was on them for such a long time she got the side effect of extreme

fatigue again . We slowly decreased the Quanfacine to put her on something

else but so far so good. So often we play the medication game. Sometimes

she needs more, sometimes she needs less.....

I have to add that it is really important that every time we go in

they do an EKG. The meds can sometimes mess with the heart. They also watch

her kidney.

Also, we do not only medicate. For some of her repetitive behaviors

we have given her " substitute " behaviors. We only work on one or two at a

time. If we worked on everything then she would go nuts! We are lucky that

we were able to do this. Patty is also a pro at relaxation techniques. When

she was little I used to have to sit in the room with her and have her model

me but now she knows how to do it herself. In the beginning she would just

be in the same room as me and having me do that with the lights low seemed to

make a difference. Probably it was because " I " was calmer. Who knows?

I have to say though that I believe it is also true with many here,

that when behaviors worsen when there is a medical issue coming up. The last

time, just a month ago, when she was driving me nuts and quite cranky she

ended up having a missive ear infection.

I have tired to give you as much information as I could. Some is

probably irrelevant to you but you never know. Take care and I wish you

luck.

Bonnie, Mom to a 20, Patty CHARGE 18 and wife to a sleepy

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At this point right now Patty is on 2 mg. of Risperdal. She has been

up to four. It seems like there is a constant game of what amount works.

Sometimes you need more, sometimes you need less. She takes this for Tics but

it also helps with OCD behaviors as well as her mood. We can tell if she has

missed a dose or not. Patty has been taking her own meds for years now.

First she was only on the Risperdal and it worked wonders. But after

years she had some side effects-extreme fatigue-and her tics came back. They

then they experimented and put her on a combination of Risperdal and another

med called Quanfacine. The two together worked well for a while. But since

she was on them for such a long time she got the side effect of extreme

fatigue again . We slowly decreased the Quanfacine to put her on something

else but so far so good. So often we play the medication game. Sometimes

she needs more, sometimes she needs less.....

I have to add that it is really important that every time we go in

they do an EKG. The meds can sometimes mess with the heart. They also watch

her kidney.

Also, we do not only medicate. For some of her repetitive behaviors

we have given her " substitute " behaviors. We only work on one or two at a

time. If we worked on everything then she would go nuts! We are lucky that

we were able to do this. Patty is also a pro at relaxation techniques. When

she was little I used to have to sit in the room with her and have her model

me but now she knows how to do it herself. In the beginning she would just

be in the same room as me and having me do that with the lights low seemed to

make a difference. Probably it was because " I " was calmer. Who knows?

I have to say though that I believe it is also true with many here,

that when behaviors worsen when there is a medical issue coming up. The last

time, just a month ago, when she was driving me nuts and quite cranky she

ended up having a missive ear infection.

I have tired to give you as much information as I could. Some is

probably irrelevant to you but you never know. Take care and I wish you

luck.

Bonnie, Mom to a 20, Patty CHARGE 18 and wife to a sleepy

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