RE: Lupron after hysterectomy?

December 20, 2001

Has anyone ever heard of this?:

I know of a 38 year old woman who had a hysterectomy for a fibroid uterus a

few months ago. The doctor had wanted to remove her ovaries because she had

endometriosis or adhesions (I'm not sure which), but she did not consent to

this. Her recovery time was slower than expected, and she found that the

hysterectomy did not relieve her pain, although the doctor cleaned up the

endo/adhesions as much as he could. According to a relative of this woman,

she regrets not having had her ovaries removed. This relative told me last

month her doctor started her on a series of five shots of " something " to

" kill her ovaries " because they were feeding estrogen to the endo/adhesions.

Does this sound like Lupron?

This woman's relative is under the impression that these shots will

permanently shut down this woman's ovaries. If this is Lupron, what is the

chance it will permanently shut down a 38 year old woman's ovaries? If a

premenopausal woman goes on Lupron to shrink fibroids before a myo, is there

a risk of permanently shutting down the ovaries? Doctors don't tell you

these things. I don't understand the point of this woman's treatment at all.

If this is just for temporary relief, why go through the potential side

effects of Lupron - osteoporosis, hot flashes, memory loss? If this

treatment permanently throws her into menopause, what will she do then to

treat her menopausal symptoms, go on HRT? How does the doctor know that the

endo/adhesions are the cause of her pain and not the hysterectomy itself?

This doesn't sound like good medical advice to me.

I just don't understand the point of going on HRT forever, either, or why

doctors want to yank out the ovaries and then give women artificial

hormones. I know several women in their 60's who are on HRT. Do doctors

give this to women in their 70's or 80's? Do hot flashes persist forever or

do they gradually end a few years after menopause? Couldn't weight lifting

and calcium supplements be enough to prevent osteoporosis after menopause?

Therese

December 21, 2001

OH and another thing... they use Lupron to treat

PROSTATE CANCER in men. Sounds like something good to

put in your body huh?

Kristi

--- Therese Barraco

wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of this?:

>

> I know of a 38 year old woman who had a hysterectomy

> for a fibroid uterus a

> few months ago. The doctor had wanted to remove her

> ovaries because she had

> endometriosis or adhesions (I'm not sure which), but

> she did not consent to

> this. Her recovery time was slower than expected,

> and she found that the

> hysterectomy did not relieve her pain, although the

> doctor cleaned up the

> endo/adhesions as much as he could. According to a

> relative of this woman,

> she regrets not having had her ovaries removed.

> This relative told me last

> month her doctor started her on a series of five

> shots of " something " to

> " kill her ovaries " because they were feeding

> estrogen to the endo/adhesions.

> Does this sound like Lupron?

>

> This woman's relative is under the impression that

> these shots will

> permanently shut down this woman's ovaries. If this

> is Lupron, what is the

> chance it will permanently shut down a 38 year old

> woman's ovaries? If a

> premenopausal woman goes on Lupron to shrink

> fibroids before a myo, is there

> a risk of permanently shutting down the ovaries?

> Doctors don't tell you

> these things. I don't understand the point of this

> woman's treatment at all.

> If this is just for temporary relief, why go through

> the potential side

> effects of Lupron - osteoporosis, hot flashes,

> memory loss? If this

> treatment permanently throws her into menopause,

> what will she do then to

> treat her menopausal symptoms, go on HRT? How does

> the doctor know that the

> endo/adhesions are the cause of her pain and not the

> hysterectomy itself?

> This doesn't sound like good medical advice to me.

>

> I just don't understand the point of going on HRT

> forever, either, or why

> doctors want to yank out the ovaries and then give

> women artificial

> hormones. I know several women in their 60's who

> are on HRT. Do doctors

> give this to women in their 70's or 80's? Do hot

> flashes persist forever or

> do they gradually end a few years after menopause?

> Couldn't weight lifting

> and calcium supplements be enough to prevent

> osteoporosis after menopause?

>

> Therese

>

__________________________________________________

December 21, 2001

OH and another thing... they use Lupron to treat

PROSTATE CANCER in men. Sounds like something good to

put in your body huh?

Kristi

--- Therese Barraco

wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of this?:

>

> I know of a 38 year old woman who had a hysterectomy

> for a fibroid uterus a

> few months ago. The doctor had wanted to remove her

> ovaries because she had

> endometriosis or adhesions (I'm not sure which), but

> she did not consent to

> this. Her recovery time was slower than expected,

> and she found that the

> hysterectomy did not relieve her pain, although the

> doctor cleaned up the

> endo/adhesions as much as he could. According to a

> relative of this woman,

> she regrets not having had her ovaries removed.

> This relative told me last

> month her doctor started her on a series of five

> shots of " something " to

> " kill her ovaries " because they were feeding

> estrogen to the endo/adhesions.

> Does this sound like Lupron?

>

> This woman's relative is under the impression that

> these shots will

> permanently shut down this woman's ovaries. If this

> is Lupron, what is the

> chance it will permanently shut down a 38 year old

> woman's ovaries? If a

> premenopausal woman goes on Lupron to shrink

> fibroids before a myo, is there

> a risk of permanently shutting down the ovaries?

> Doctors don't tell you

> these things. I don't understand the point of this

> woman's treatment at all.

> If this is just for temporary relief, why go through

> the potential side

> effects of Lupron - osteoporosis, hot flashes,

> memory loss? If this

> treatment permanently throws her into menopause,

> what will she do then to

> treat her menopausal symptoms, go on HRT? How does

> the doctor know that the

> endo/adhesions are the cause of her pain and not the

> hysterectomy itself?

> This doesn't sound like good medical advice to me.

>

> I just don't understand the point of going on HRT

> forever, either, or why

> doctors want to yank out the ovaries and then give

> women artificial

> hormones. I know several women in their 60's who

> are on HRT. Do doctors

> give this to women in their 70's or 80's? Do hot

> flashes persist forever or

> do they gradually end a few years after menopause?

> Couldn't weight lifting

> and calcium supplements be enough to prevent

> osteoporosis after menopause?

>

> Therese

>

__________________________________________________

December 21, 2001

OH and another thing... they use Lupron to treat

PROSTATE CANCER in men. Sounds like something good to

put in your body huh?

Kristi

--- Therese Barraco

wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of this?:

>

> I know of a 38 year old woman who had a hysterectomy

> for a fibroid uterus a

> few months ago. The doctor had wanted to remove her

> ovaries because she had

> endometriosis or adhesions (I'm not sure which), but

> she did not consent to

> this. Her recovery time was slower than expected,

> and she found that the

> hysterectomy did not relieve her pain, although the

> doctor cleaned up the

> endo/adhesions as much as he could. According to a

> relative of this woman,

> she regrets not having had her ovaries removed.

> This relative told me last

> month her doctor started her on a series of five

> shots of " something " to

> " kill her ovaries " because they were feeding

> estrogen to the endo/adhesions.

> Does this sound like Lupron?

>

> This woman's relative is under the impression that

> these shots will

> permanently shut down this woman's ovaries. If this

> is Lupron, what is the

> chance it will permanently shut down a 38 year old

> woman's ovaries? If a

> premenopausal woman goes on Lupron to shrink

> fibroids before a myo, is there

> a risk of permanently shutting down the ovaries?

> Doctors don't tell you

> these things. I don't understand the point of this

> woman's treatment at all.

> If this is just for temporary relief, why go through

> the potential side

> effects of Lupron - osteoporosis, hot flashes,

> memory loss? If this

> treatment permanently throws her into menopause,

> what will she do then to

> treat her menopausal symptoms, go on HRT? How does

> the doctor know that the

> endo/adhesions are the cause of her pain and not the

> hysterectomy itself?

> This doesn't sound like good medical advice to me.

>

> I just don't understand the point of going on HRT

> forever, either, or why

> doctors want to yank out the ovaries and then give

> women artificial

> hormones. I know several women in their 60's who

> are on HRT. Do doctors

> give this to women in their 70's or 80's? Do hot

> flashes persist forever or

> do they gradually end a few years after menopause?

> Couldn't weight lifting

> and calcium supplements be enough to prevent

> osteoporosis after menopause?

>

> Therese

>

__________________________________________________

December 22, 2001

Men have a captain of industry, former junk bond king

Milken....who was diagnosed with prostate cancer...and quickly

marshalled millions into the search for a cure for prostate cancer.

Made a nice splash on US NEWS & WORLD REPORT a couple

of years ago, and probably various other media.

A noble cause....would have done the same, sans prostate

cancer? Nevertheless, dollars are there for this disease--

<A

HREF= " http://www.cancerwise.org/archive/august_2001/cancer_newsline/nerve.html " >\

CancerWise - Nerve replacement surgery during prostatectomy is an option

for

http://www.capcure.org/aboutcapcure/

</A>impotence? nerve sparing procedures that enable men to continue their

erectile function for intercourse...is of course already available.... <A

HREF= " http://www.cancerwise.org/archive/august_2001/cancer_newsline/nerve.html " >

CancerWise - Nerve replacement surgery during prostatectomy is an option for

some men</A>

http://www.cancerwise.org/archive/august_2001/cancer_newsline/nerve.html

for women with fibroids, a public health epidemic... where is our captain of

industry....billionaire Oprah...did she have a myomectomy for fibroids?

if so, why is she mute? why did our pleas for help from her fall on deaf ears?

hysterectomy....nerve sparing surgery? it's not even on the radar of your

average surgeon with the exception of the Bermans at UCLA....

how long before the development of pelvic uterine nerve sparing surgery?

who knows.

just don't get me started on this topic.....i'm angry about the severe

disparities of women's and men's health care....

In a message dated 12/22/01 6:28:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cailleach@... writes:

> Another thing about prostate. I often think about this when women go

> overboard in saying there would be better treatment if this happened to

> men. Men over 50 are very prone to enlarged prostate glands, even moreso

> than women over 40 are prone to enlarged uteri. Like us, they suffer from

> the pressure on their bladders and they have the fear that the growth may

> be cancer. Rectal examination of the prostate gland is undignified and

> uncomfortable. Medical and surgical treatments for prostate conditions can

> have severe consequences such as incontinence and impotence. --- I don't

> deny the existence of misogyny but it isn't fair to blame all our problems

> with treatment for fibroids on a male-dominated profession treating a

> female condition.

>

December 22, 2001