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In a message dated 09/15/2000 8:52:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mark_sarmac@... writes:

<< HEAR, HEAR, MARK!<====no pun intended I hope June? =P woka woka woka jk

Mark >>

OH MY GOSH, MARK! I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT I WROTE. NO, NO PUN INTENDED :o(

June

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I would give my child hearing if he/she were born deaf. Perhaps Mark would too.

BUT there are born deaf adults with born deaf children who will not give their

children hearing if they could. Personally, I think it's crazy but they don't

see deafness as a disability. Who am I to dictate what they do with their lives

and the lives of their children? I can see their arguement and I don't feel this

is child abuse (although you can present a good arguement for it!).

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From: and Christi Waldrip

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:18 AM

To: NF2_Crewegroups

Subject: Re: IMPLANTS !

Mark, if you had a kid who was born deaf, and you had

the chance to give the child hearing, are you telling

me you wouldn't?

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We are all born without the power to talk, so are parents not supposed to teach

us to talk?

I also have watched programmes on T.V. a born deaf child has had the Cochlea

switched on, and the

look of joy and surprise at being able to her brings tears to so many of us.

The more of us that are fitted with Implants, the more feedback the manufactures

get, thus as with

the ABI, later models are much better than the early ones.

Just think of speech processing on computers, years ago when Star Trek was 1st

released people

thought it a miracle that would never happen, to be able to talk to a computer,

and now every person

has the ability to be able to do just that, those who have been taught to speak

that is!

So I say, please don't try force any parents in either direction, or influence

them in any way, a

family is a unit which no outsider should try to control.

2 pennies from

Re: IMPLANTS !

> HEAR, HEAR, MARK! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING!

>

> June

>

>

>

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We are all born without the power to talk, so are parents not supposed to teach

us to talk?

I also have watched programmes on T.V. a born deaf child has had the Cochlea

switched on, and the

look of joy and surprise at being able to her brings tears to so many of us.

The more of us that are fitted with Implants, the more feedback the manufactures

get, thus as with

the ABI, later models are much better than the early ones.

Just think of speech processing on computers, years ago when Star Trek was 1st

released people

thought it a miracle that would never happen, to be able to talk to a computer,

and now every person

has the ability to be able to do just that, those who have been taught to speak

that is!

So I say, please don't try force any parents in either direction, or influence

them in any way, a

family is a unit which no outsider should try to control.

2 pennies from

Re: IMPLANTS !

> HEAR, HEAR, MARK! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING!

>

> June

>

>

>

>

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June

<<jk>> means just kidding

At 04:00 PM 9/15/00 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 09/15/2000 8:52:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>mark_sarmac@... writes:

>

><< jk >>

>

>ummm...I don't want to seem like a dummy, but what is " jk " ?

>

>June

>

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In a message dated 09/15/2000 9:03:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

marcusmc@... writes:

HMMM...Marcus,

I didn't want you to get the wrong idea! My response wasn't an attack on

you, personally. I guess I just got fed up with people saying that Deaf

people can't do as much as Hearing people. I know that's not true. Heck,

look at people on the Crew. Look at YOU!!!! I think what you do is just

AMAZING!!!

A very humble, June

<< Well June !! Hmmm

Wasn't meaning to get under your skin here. By saying we LATE DEAFENED have

a chance to get an education I was trying to be MIDDLE OF THE ROAD . Not

every one achieves academically, so I was just trying to be nice... Am I on

the right track here ??? Hope so. Whatever doesn't offend then Id say it if

I could think of it....

Totally confused Marcus

Re: IMPLANTS !

> In a message dated 09/14/2000 4:49:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marcusmc@... writes:

>

> << in most cases get an education to some degree. >>

>

> HEY MARCUS!!!!!

>

> I have a BS in Business and a BA in Communications from Gallaudet

University

> (a University for deaf people in DC). I used the degrees when I worked

for

> about 6 years before my NF2 problems became detrimental to the job and

> possibly my health. Heck, I've met Deaf Drs (not medical, though I

suspect

> that there will be some some day :o) So, Deaf people CAN get " higher "

> educations.

>

> And. NO, they need not be culturally Deaf to do so.

>

> June

>

> >>

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In a message dated 09/15/2000 9:03:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

marcusmc@... writes:

HMMM...Marcus,

I didn't want you to get the wrong idea! My response wasn't an attack on

you, personally. I guess I just got fed up with people saying that Deaf

people can't do as much as Hearing people. I know that's not true. Heck,

look at people on the Crew. Look at YOU!!!! I think what you do is just

AMAZING!!!

A very humble, June

<< Well June !! Hmmm

Wasn't meaning to get under your skin here. By saying we LATE DEAFENED have

a chance to get an education I was trying to be MIDDLE OF THE ROAD . Not

every one achieves academically, so I was just trying to be nice... Am I on

the right track here ??? Hope so. Whatever doesn't offend then Id say it if

I could think of it....

Totally confused Marcus

Re: IMPLANTS !

> In a message dated 09/14/2000 4:49:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marcusmc@... writes:

>

> << in most cases get an education to some degree. >>

>

> HEY MARCUS!!!!!

>

> I have a BS in Business and a BA in Communications from Gallaudet

University

> (a University for deaf people in DC). I used the degrees when I worked

for

> about 6 years before my NF2 problems became detrimental to the job and

> possibly my health. Heck, I've met Deaf Drs (not medical, though I

suspect

> that there will be some some day :o) So, Deaf people CAN get " higher "

> educations.

>

> And. NO, they need not be culturally Deaf to do so.

>

> June

>

> >>

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