Re: Sleep difficulty supplements

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Histadine is the amino acid that makes the histamine reaction in allergies. I have never had allergies, until I took adrecor for a week. I stopped but my symptoms didnt go away. I believe that the histadine flipped on a switch inside that just created this response. I am taking several natural supplements to stop the symptoms and also a candida cleanse.

When I spoke with the company neurorelief..they responded by saying that they hadnt "heard" of that problem. I feel that the addition of histadine in the adrecor product is pretty thoughtless, and am pretty sure that others have also had my experience.

If you do decide to stop the product, I encourage you to call the company and ask for a refund! I did, and they need to know this is happening.

Im guessing that your doc will will be perfectly fine with the rhodiola and tyrosine, as they are already in what your taking.

Subject: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:33 PM

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> I do have one question tho; could this cause BP to go up some, >because mine

was alot higher last nite and this morning. Or do you >think it might be that I

need to go down some more on my cortisol?

I found soreness around eyes from too much HC. BP also I think could be from too

much HC. I don't know about the other symptoms.

Dorothy

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> I do have one question tho; could this cause BP to go up some, >because mine

was alot higher last nite and this morning. Or do you >think it might be that I

need to go down some more on my cortisol?

I found soreness around eyes from too much HC. BP also I think could be from too

much HC. I don't know about the other symptoms.

Dorothy

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> I do have one question tho; could this cause BP to go up some, >because mine

was alot higher last nite and this morning. Or do you >think it might be that I

need to go down some more on my cortisol?

I found soreness around eyes from too much HC. BP also I think could be from too

much HC. I don't know about the other symptoms.

Dorothy

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but do you have low norepinaphrine like she does?

Subject: Re: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:25 AM

I get caffeine like effects from Tyrosine.sol> Just emailed my doc to tell her and see if she goes along with tyrosine and rhodiola. ------------------------------------

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but do you have low norepinaphrine like she does?

Subject: Re: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:25 AM

I get caffeine like effects from Tyrosine.sol> Just emailed my doc to tell her and see if she goes along with tyrosine and rhodiola. ------------------------------------

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Hi n,

you know, I dont know anything about HC at all. The tyrosine..you should start at 500 if your dopa,nor, epin were low but not drastically. You can start at 1000 if they were lower. If youd rather, you can start with the 500..after 3 days and you dont feel much, then you can raise..you can take 2 doses of 500. Early am then a bit later, say noon.

Thyrptophan makes most people sleepy in about 20 minutes, so you should take it right before your ready to sleep.Also your less likely to have any protiens in your stomach then.

I do not think adrecor was an hr before bed? never the less, your not taking it anymore.

Leisa

Subject: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM

Hi Leisa. I went and bought the tyrosine today. Will start it tomorrow. I started rhodiola today. 500mg. Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? Also I want to ask about the tryptophan. I have been taking 1500 as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it? The AdreCor was to be one hour before bed. Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting. Should I ask Val about that? Thanks for your help------------------------------------

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Hi n,

you know, I dont know anything about HC at all. The tyrosine..you should start at 500 if your dopa,nor, epin were low but not drastically. You can start at 1000 if they were lower. If youd rather, you can start with the 500..after 3 days and you dont feel much, then you can raise..you can take 2 doses of 500. Early am then a bit later, say noon.

Thyrptophan makes most people sleepy in about 20 minutes, so you should take it right before your ready to sleep.Also your less likely to have any protiens in your stomach then.

I do not think adrecor was an hr before bed? never the less, your not taking it anymore.

Leisa

Subject: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM

Hi Leisa. I went and bought the tyrosine today. Will start it tomorrow. I started rhodiola today. 500mg. Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? Also I want to ask about the tryptophan. I have been taking 1500 as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it? The AdreCor was to be one hour before bed. Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting. Should I ask Val about that? Thanks for your help------------------------------------

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marion, yes, cut back to 500 on the tyrosine, and see how you feel. Thanks for reposting your labs...as there was another guy who had low dopamine....But yeah your epin, norepin and serotonin are all low. How are feeling with the thyrptophan?

Subject: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 10:31 AM

> > > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements> To: RT3_T3 > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM> > > Hi Leisa. I went and bought the tyrosine today. Will start it tomorrow. I started rhodiola today. 500mg. Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? Also I want to ask about the tryptophan. I have been taking 1500 as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it? The AdreCor was to be one hour before bed. Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting. Should I ask Val about that? Thanks for your help> > > > ------------------------------------> >

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marion, yes, cut back to 500 on the tyrosine, and see how you feel. Thanks for reposting your labs...as there was another guy who had low dopamine....But yeah your epin, norepin and serotonin are all low. How are feeling with the thyrptophan?

Subject: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 10:31 AM

> > > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements> To: RT3_T3 > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM> > > Hi Leisa. I went and bought the tyrosine today. Will start it tomorrow. I started rhodiola today. 500mg. Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? Also I want to ask about the tryptophan. I have been taking 1500 as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it? The AdreCor was to be one hour before bed. Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting. Should I ask Val about that? Thanks for your help> > > > ------------------------------------> >

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> > Hi Leisa.  I went and bought the tyrosine today.  Will start it tomorrow.  I

started rhodiola today. 500mg.  Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? 

Also I want to ask about the tryptophan.  I have been taking 1500 as you

suggested, but how long before bed should I take it?  The AdreCor was to be one

hour before bed.  Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has

come up some along with my eyes hurting.  Should I ask Val about that?  Thanks

for your help

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> > Hi Leisa.  I went and bought the tyrosine today.  Will start it tomorrow.  I

started rhodiola today. 500mg.  Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? 

Also I want to ask about the tryptophan.  I have been taking 1500 as you

suggested, but how long before bed should I take it?  The AdreCor was to be one

hour before bed.  Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has

come up some along with my eyes hurting.  Should I ask Val about that?  Thanks

for your help

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> > > From: n <kadmom7@>

> > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements

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> > > Hi Leisa.  I went and bought the tyrosine today.  Will start it tomorrow. 

I started rhodiola today. 500mg.  Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? 

Also I want to ask about the tryptophan.  I have been taking 1500 as you

suggested, but how long before bed should I take it?  The AdreCor was to be one

hour before bed.  Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has

come up some along with my eyes hurting.  Should I ask Val about that?  Thanks

for your help

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> > > From: n <kadmom7@>

> > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements

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> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM

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> > > Hi Leisa.  I went and bought the tyrosine today.  Will start it tomorrow. 

I started rhodiola today. 500mg.  Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? 

Also I want to ask about the tryptophan.  I have been taking 1500 as you

suggested, but how long before bed should I take it?  The AdreCor was to be one

hour before bed.  Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has

come up some along with my eyes hurting.  Should I ask Val about that?  Thanks

for your help

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I dont think thyrptophan would make you lose wieght so quickly...but goog if your feel good on 1500, stay with it, as it takes awhile for it to go up.

If you have any question about the rhodiola and tyrosine, I would take only one for 2 days...and then take the other one..and notice the difference.

Gosh, I just cannot say about the HC...as it did give me a headache so I didnt take it...but Val will know what its likely from.

hang in there, leisa

Subject: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

> > > > > > > > > From: n <kadmom7@>> > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements> > > To: RT3_T3 > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi Leisa. I went and bought the tyrosine today. Will start it tomorrow. I started rhodiola today. 500mg. Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? Also I want to ask about the tryptophan. I have been taking

1500 as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it? The AdreCor was to be one hour before bed. Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting. Should I ask Val about that? Thanks for your help> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > >

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I dont think thyrptophan would make you lose wieght so quickly...but goog if your feel good on 1500, stay with it, as it takes awhile for it to go up.

If you have any question about the rhodiola and tyrosine, I would take only one for 2 days...and then take the other one..and notice the difference.

Gosh, I just cannot say about the HC...as it did give me a headache so I didnt take it...but Val will know what its likely from.

hang in there, leisa

Subject: Re: Sleep difficulty supplementsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:14 PM

> > > > > > > > > From: n <kadmom7@>> > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements> > > To: RT3_T3 > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi Leisa. I went and bought the tyrosine today. Will start it tomorrow. I started rhodiola today. 500mg. Did you say to start tyrosine at 1000 or 500? Also I want to ask about the tryptophan. I have been taking

1500 as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it? The AdreCor was to be one hour before bed. Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting. Should I ask Val about that? Thanks for your help> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > >

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> > > > From: n <kadmom7@>

> > > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements

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> > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM

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> > > > Hi Leisa.  I went and bought the tyrosine today.  Will start it

tomorrow.  I started rhodiola today. 500mg.  Did you say to start tyrosine at

1000 or 500?  Also I want to ask about the tryptophan.  I have been taking 1500

as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it?  The AdreCor was to

be one hour before bed.  Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my

BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting.  Should I ask Val about that? 

Thanks for your help

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> > > > From: n <kadmom7@>

> > > > Subject: Sleep difficulty supplements

> > > > To: RT3_T3

> > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:18 PM

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> > > > Hi Leisa.  I went and bought the tyrosine today.  Will start it

tomorrow.  I started rhodiola today. 500mg.  Did you say to start tyrosine at

1000 or 500?  Also I want to ask about the tryptophan.  I have been taking 1500

as you suggested, but how long before bed should I take it?  The AdreCor was to

be one hour before bed.  Should I try to come down on the HC another 2.5 as my

BP has come up some along with my eyes hurting.  Should I ask Val about that? 

Thanks for your help

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n

I read that Rhodiola has dopamine enhencing effect so taking rhodiola and

tyrosine might cause the problem. Also read somewhere that taking dopamine

enhencing supplements while low on serotonine might cause hypomania

symptoms. So, it might be good idea to go slow. If i were you i would stop

tyrosine for a while and see how it goes. If no change i would also stop

rhodiola for a while

cindi

Leisa I think I will go back up to 1500 tryptophan tonite. I slept much

better last nite, woke up okay. But noticed that my back, legs and even my

fingers were a little sore today, not like they had been. I have a headache

around eyes all day today. Don't know for sure what it is from. Do you have

any idea? I am taking 500 apiece of tyrosine and rhodiola. Don't seem to be

too nervous. I wonder if it is the cortisol giving headache? One good thing

is I have lost a fews pounds. Is that from the tryptophan or which one?

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n

I read that Rhodiola has dopamine enhencing effect so taking rhodiola and

tyrosine might cause the problem. Also read somewhere that taking dopamine

enhencing supplements while low on serotonine might cause hypomania

symptoms. So, it might be good idea to go slow. If i were you i would stop

tyrosine for a while and see how it goes. If no change i would also stop

rhodiola for a while

cindi

Leisa I think I will go back up to 1500 tryptophan tonite. I slept much

better last nite, woke up okay. But noticed that my back, legs and even my

fingers were a little sore today, not like they had been. I have a headache

around eyes all day today. Don't know for sure what it is from. Do you have

any idea? I am taking 500 apiece of tyrosine and rhodiola. Don't seem to be

too nervous. I wonder if it is the cortisol giving headache? One good thing

is I have lost a fews pounds. Is that from the tryptophan or which one?

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I live in NC and the pollen here has been awful...My son's congestion was so bad

that he ended up with a true sinus infection and a fever of 103.5(and his temps

run at least a degree low...but the doctors could care less!)...He is on

Amoxicillan for 10 days...Ugh! If his fever hadn't gone so high I would have

bypassed the medicine as antibiotics themselves can cause so many problems! I am

a big believer in taking Probiotics, especially after taking an anitibotic!!

Beth J.

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> headaches often have to do with fluid balance so sodium increase can

> help, but also thye can be from hypothyroid or sinus or allergy. How is

> the pollen count in yuour area? It has vbeen very high here this year

> and I am noticing some allergy type symtpmos that I usually do nto have.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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I live in NC and the pollen here has been awful...My son's congestion was so bad

that he ended up with a true sinus infection and a fever of 103.5(and his temps

run at least a degree low...but the doctors could care less!)...He is on

Amoxicillan for 10 days...Ugh! If his fever hadn't gone so high I would have

bypassed the medicine as antibiotics themselves can cause so many problems! I am

a big believer in taking Probiotics, especially after taking an anitibotic!!

Beth J.

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> headaches often have to do with fluid balance so sodium increase can

> help, but also thye can be from hypothyroid or sinus or allergy. How is

> the pollen count in yuour area? It has vbeen very high here this year

> and I am noticing some allergy type symtpmos that I usually do nto have.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

I live in NC and the pollen here has been awful...My son's congestion was so bad

that he ended up with a true sinus infection and a fever of 103.5(and his temps

run at least a degree low...but the doctors could care less!)...He is on

Amoxicillan for 10 days...Ugh! If his fever hadn't gone so high I would have

bypassed the medicine as antibiotics themselves can cause so many problems! I am

a big believer in taking Probiotics, especially after taking an anitibotic!!

Beth J.

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> headaches often have to do with fluid balance so sodium increase can

> help, but also thye can be from hypothyroid or sinus or allergy. How is

> the pollen count in yuour area? It has vbeen very high here this year

> and I am noticing some allergy type symtpmos that I usually do nto have.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Val as you have probably been reading I have been having headaches. I cut out

the tyrosine today and took only rhodiola 500 mg. Headache still persisted and

still have some tonite. The pollen count is high also here. I have come down

from 40mg hc end of January, I am now down to 22.5 mg. I have not changed my

Armour of 90mg and 25mcg of Cytomel. My last blood test in March was 3.6

(2.4-4.9)and 0.6 T4 (0.6-1.2) and I haven't changed it because of starting the

supplements for the neurotransmitters. I was low in epinephrine,

norepinephrine, and very low in serotonin. I am now taking 1500 of tryptophan

at nite, and 500 rhodiola. Was also taking 500 tyrosine until today. Could it

be the thyroid causing this then? Should I up my armour 30mgs or should I just

wait till I get the results back of the blood test I need to take May 11th? I

need your expertise here Val, I trust you cause you know more about the HC &

thyroid than most. The other girls have been loads of help also, thanks girls.

Oh I am still taking sea salt, so my sodium should be fine, it wasn't far off in

January.

> headaches often have to do with fluid balance so sodium increase can

> help, but also thye can be from hypothyroid or sinus or allergy. How is

> the pollen count in yuour area? It has vbeen very high here this year

> and I am noticing some allergy type symtpmos that I usually do nto have.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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