Re: Is this formula have a name?

[Guest guest]

The simplified formula was tested vs the standard harris-benedict formula and vs

indirect calorimetry. There is no significant difference between using the rule

of the thumb (that is what we call that formula here in europe) and estimated

energy needs by indirect calorimetry and harris-benedict. ESPEN recommends it

and from my knowledge also GANEP (Brazilian office of parenteral and enteral

nutrition). There are several studies published with the comparison you can find

those references in ESPEN guidelines.

Cátia Borges, nutricionista

ARS Norte, Portugal

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> Hi All and sorry for the cross-posting,

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> We are all using the formula for estimating needs : 25-30 Kcal/kg etc.

> Does this formula has a name?

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> Thanks

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> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG

> A dietitian, not the food police.

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> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

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> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

that take your breath away. " - Carlin

> " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

(Revolutionary Road)

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[Guest guest]

Except I've read for years that -Benedict has poor correlation to direct

calorimetry. So it's very low on the ADA's evidence-analysis library list of

predictive equations.

I think I've heard that name before " rule of thumb " . Haven't seen published

studies validating it yet. But Europe & America often do things differently.

Holly

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Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

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>To: rd-usa

>Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:46 AM

>Subject: Re: Is this formula have a name?

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>The simplified formula was tested vs the standard harris-benedict formula and

vs indirect calorimetry. There is no significant difference between using the

rule of the thumb (that is what we call that formula here in europe) and

estimated energy needs by indirect calorimetry and harris-benedict. ESPEN

recommends it and from my knowledge also GANEP (Brazilian office of parenteral

and enteral nutrition). There are several studies published with the comparison

you can find those references in ESPEN guidelines.

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>Cátia Borges, nutricionista

>ARS Norte, Portugal

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>>

>> Hi All and sorry for the cross-posting,

>>

>> We are all using the formula for estimating needs : 25-30 Kcal/kg etc.

>> Does this formula has a name?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG

>> A dietitian, not the food police.

>>

>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

that take your breath away. " - Carlin

>> " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

(Revolutionary Road)

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Except I've read for years that -Benedict has poor correlation to direct

calorimetry. So it's very low on the ADA's evidence-analysis library list of

predictive equations.

I think I've heard that name before " rule of thumb " . Haven't seen published

studies validating it yet. But Europe & America often do things differently.

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

>________________________________

>

>To: rd-usa

>Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:46 AM

>Subject: Re: Is this formula have a name?

>

>

>

> 

>

>

>The simplified formula was tested vs the standard harris-benedict formula and

vs indirect calorimetry. There is no significant difference between using the

rule of the thumb (that is what we call that formula here in europe) and

estimated energy needs by indirect calorimetry and harris-benedict. ESPEN

recommends it and from my knowledge also GANEP (Brazilian office of parenteral

and enteral nutrition). There are several studies published with the comparison

you can find those references in ESPEN guidelines.

>

>Cátia Borges, nutricionista

>ARS Norte, Portugal

>

>>

>>

>> Hi All and sorry for the cross-posting,

>>

>> We are all using the formula for estimating needs : 25-30 Kcal/kg etc.

>> Does this formula has a name?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG

>> A dietitian, not the food police.

>>

>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

that take your breath away. " - Carlin

>> " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

(Revolutionary Road)

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Except I've read for years that -Benedict has poor correlation to direct

calorimetry. So it's very low on the ADA's evidence-analysis library list of

predictive equations.

I think I've heard that name before " rule of thumb " . Haven't seen published

studies validating it yet. But Europe & America often do things differently.

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

>________________________________

>

>To: rd-usa

>Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:46 AM

>Subject: Re: Is this formula have a name?

>

>

>

> 

>

>

>The simplified formula was tested vs the standard harris-benedict formula and

vs indirect calorimetry. There is no significant difference between using the

rule of the thumb (that is what we call that formula here in europe) and

estimated energy needs by indirect calorimetry and harris-benedict. ESPEN

recommends it and from my knowledge also GANEP (Brazilian office of parenteral

and enteral nutrition). There are several studies published with the comparison

you can find those references in ESPEN guidelines.

>

>Cátia Borges, nutricionista

>ARS Norte, Portugal

>

>>

>>

>> Hi All and sorry for the cross-posting,

>>

>> We are all using the formula for estimating needs : 25-30 Kcal/kg etc.

>> Does this formula has a name?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG

>> A dietitian, not the food police.

>>

>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

that take your breath away. " - Carlin

>> " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

(Revolutionary Road)

>>

>>

>>

>>