Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 Marcus, you are so right. as for myself, I take colostrum. its considered a food, not a drug. its lifes 1st food. its whts in mothers breast milk the 1st 48 hrs after birth, it super boosts the newborns immune wsystem. adults can benefit from it to, especially those with low immune systems. it is expensive but i really believe in it. you can read abt it hee http://www.colostrum.org/ here is an excerpt: Colostrum is "Nature's Healing Miracle", according to prominent medical doctor . Medical Research shows that Colostrum is possibly the one supplement that can help everyone that’s ill. And the most important preventative you’ll ever find. What is Colostrum ? It has been called mother's gold-colostrum, a thick, yellow substance that is produced toward the end of a female's pregnancy and is emitted by her mammary glands during the first 48 hours after giving birth. While humans produce small amounts of colostrum, a cow produces approximately nine gallons during the first thirty-six hours after giving birth. Each drop contains the promise of life: immunoglobulins, growth factors, antibodies, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, amino acids, and other special substances designed to "prime" the body to face a lifetime of invasion by various microorganisms and environmental toxins bent on destruction. Why is Colostrum Exceptional? As we age, we notice it takes us a little longer to fight off a cold or flu, something aches, our energy and enthusiasm have lessened, our skin loses its elasticity and gravity takes its toll on our bodies. Our focus turns to health and anti aging products and knowledge. We each balance our own vitamins, minerals and herbs.. many times unaware of dangerous doses and combinations. We’ve looked everywhere for an answer. We’ve asked plants and minerals for something they’re unable to provide because they don’t have immune systems to produce immune factors and immunoglobulins and they don’t have growth factors for muscle, skin and bone.. With killer bugs at our doorstep, we need to look to what was designed specifically for the survival of our species. Aging, illness and death occur with the loss of immune and growth factors in our bodies. Medical science has shown in hundreds of published reports worldwide that these can possibly be replaced in the human body....with bovine colostrum. Why do I Need Colostrum as an Adult? Research has shown that once we pass puberty, our bodies gradually produce less of the immune and growth factors that help our bodies fight off disease and heal damaged body tissue. With the loss of these vital components, we age and die. In addition, the body is in constant battle with the toxins of society today. Due to the air we breathe, the food we eat, and the environment that we live in, vital nutrients are always being lost and Colostrum is the only source of these life-giving components (immune factors and growth factors). Unlike other supplements that isolate and sometimes overdose the body in unbalanced ways, Colostrum is always a perfect combination. Research has shown that Colostrum has the demonstrated ability to kill bacteria and viral invaders, stimulate tissue repair (particularly the bowel lining), stimulate fat utilization for fuel and optimize cellular reproduction (anti-aging). No other substance on the planet can provide all of these marvelous benefits. What's in Bovine Colostrum ? IMMUNE FACTORS: Medical and clinical studies show immune factors in colostrum fight Viruses, Bacteria, Yeast, Fungus, Allergens and Toxins. IMMUNOGLOBULINS: Have been shown to provide a superior defense in both treatment and prevention of viral infections.... bacteria and yeast. High quality Colstrum must be certified to contain a minimum of 16% immunoglobulins. ANTIBODIES: Colostrum has been shown to contain specific antibodies that may help our body in its fight against specific diseases such as pneumonia, RVS, dysentery, candida, flu, and numerous other illnesses.. PRP (Proline-rich Polypeptide): Shown to possibly support and regulate the Thymus Gland (bodies’ central command for the immune system)... may help calm an overactive immune system and stimulate an underactive immune system LACTOFERRIN: A protein that has been shown to transport essential iron to our red blood cells and also keeps harmful bacteria and viruses from getting the iron they need to grow on. GLYCOPROTEINS: (Protease inhibitors) A digestive factor that has been shown to help immune and growth factors survive the passage through the highly acidic digestive system. LACTALBUMINS: Research indicates tremendous possibilities that Lactalbumins can be highly effective against numerous forms of cancer and viruses. LACTOBACILLUS BIFIDUS ACIDOPHILUS: And other friendly flora necessary for the digestion of food and in the reduction of the growth of harmful bacterial in the digestive system. Shown to effectively combat candida albicans. CYTOKINE’S: INTERLUKIN 1 & 6, INTERFERON Y AND LYMPHOKINES: Shown to stimulate the lymph gland and are thought to be highly effective antiviral immune. GROWTH FACTORS: Growth Factors: Medical studies have shown that the vital growth factors IgF-1 and TgF A & B and nucleotides from bovine colostrum are practically identical to human colostrum in composition. Furthermore, it has been shown that growth factors stimulate normal growth, as well as help regenerate and accelerate the repair of aged or injured muscle, skin collagen, bone, cartilage and nerve tissues. Growth factors also stimulate the body to burn fat for fuel instead of the body's own muscle tissue in times of fasting (diet). Growth factors also help build lean muscle. IGF-1 is one of the few substances known that can stimulate the repair and growth of DNA and RNA. These growth factors help balance blood sugar levels as well as help control mood swings. In addition, growth factors can be used as an effective topical application for burns, injuries and skin rejuvenation. VITAMINS AND MINERALS: Colostrum is not a supplement... it is the whole food for the newborn... its combination of vitamins and minerals are naturally occurring and in perfect combination. Marcus wrote: Maybe we all need to have a chat about PNEUMONIA . Ways to help prevent it not just after surgery of course. Hate to have to say it here, but its a killer when we are weak or ill so lets get our heads together, get some advice ! Tired of loosing friends to it. 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Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 Marcus, you are so right. as for myself, I take colostrum. its considered a food, not a drug. its lifes 1st food. its whts in mothers breast milk the 1st 48 hrs after birth, it super boosts the newborns immune wsystem. adults can benefit from it to, especially those with low immune systems. it is expensive but i really believe in it. you can read abt it hee http://www.colostrum.org/ here is an excerpt: Colostrum is "Nature's Healing Miracle", according to prominent medical doctor . Medical Research shows that Colostrum is possibly the one supplement that can help everyone that’s ill. And the most important preventative you’ll ever find. What is Colostrum ? It has been called mother's gold-colostrum, a thick, yellow substance that is produced toward the end of a female's pregnancy and is emitted by her mammary glands during the first 48 hours after giving birth. While humans produce small amounts of colostrum, a cow produces approximately nine gallons during the first thirty-six hours after giving birth. Each drop contains the promise of life: immunoglobulins, growth factors, antibodies, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, amino acids, and other special substances designed to "prime" the body to face a lifetime of invasion by various microorganisms and environmental toxins bent on destruction. Why is Colostrum Exceptional? As we age, we notice it takes us a little longer to fight off a cold or flu, something aches, our energy and enthusiasm have lessened, our skin loses its elasticity and gravity takes its toll on our bodies. Our focus turns to health and anti aging products and knowledge. We each balance our own vitamins, minerals and herbs.. many times unaware of dangerous doses and combinations. We’ve looked everywhere for an answer. We’ve asked plants and minerals for something they’re unable to provide because they don’t have immune systems to produce immune factors and immunoglobulins and they don’t have growth factors for muscle, skin and bone.. With killer bugs at our doorstep, we need to look to what was designed specifically for the survival of our species. Aging, illness and death occur with the loss of immune and growth factors in our bodies. Medical science has shown in hundreds of published reports worldwide that these can possibly be replaced in the human body....with bovine colostrum. Why do I Need Colostrum as an Adult? Research has shown that once we pass puberty, our bodies gradually produce less of the immune and growth factors that help our bodies fight off disease and heal damaged body tissue. With the loss of these vital components, we age and die. In addition, the body is in constant battle with the toxins of society today. Due to the air we breathe, the food we eat, and the environment that we live in, vital nutrients are always being lost and Colostrum is the only source of these life-giving components (immune factors and growth factors). Unlike other supplements that isolate and sometimes overdose the body in unbalanced ways, Colostrum is always a perfect combination. Research has shown that Colostrum has the demonstrated ability to kill bacteria and viral invaders, stimulate tissue repair (particularly the bowel lining), stimulate fat utilization for fuel and optimize cellular reproduction (anti-aging). No other substance on the planet can provide all of these marvelous benefits. What's in Bovine Colostrum ? IMMUNE FACTORS: Medical and clinical studies show immune factors in colostrum fight Viruses, Bacteria, Yeast, Fungus, Allergens and Toxins. IMMUNOGLOBULINS: Have been shown to provide a superior defense in both treatment and prevention of viral infections.... bacteria and yeast. High quality Colstrum must be certified to contain a minimum of 16% immunoglobulins. ANTIBODIES: Colostrum has been shown to contain specific antibodies that may help our body in its fight against specific diseases such as pneumonia, RVS, dysentery, candida, flu, and numerous other illnesses.. PRP (Proline-rich Polypeptide): Shown to possibly support and regulate the Thymus Gland (bodies’ central command for the immune system)... may help calm an overactive immune system and stimulate an underactive immune system LACTOFERRIN: A protein that has been shown to transport essential iron to our red blood cells and also keeps harmful bacteria and viruses from getting the iron they need to grow on. GLYCOPROTEINS: (Protease inhibitors) A digestive factor that has been shown to help immune and growth factors survive the passage through the highly acidic digestive system. LACTALBUMINS: Research indicates tremendous possibilities that Lactalbumins can be highly effective against numerous forms of cancer and viruses. LACTOBACILLUS BIFIDUS ACIDOPHILUS: And other friendly flora necessary for the digestion of food and in the reduction of the growth of harmful bacterial in the digestive system. Shown to effectively combat candida albicans. CYTOKINE’S: INTERLUKIN 1 & 6, INTERFERON Y AND LYMPHOKINES: Shown to stimulate the lymph gland and are thought to be highly effective antiviral immune. GROWTH FACTORS: Growth Factors: Medical studies have shown that the vital growth factors IgF-1 and TgF A & B and nucleotides from bovine colostrum are practically identical to human colostrum in composition. Furthermore, it has been shown that growth factors stimulate normal growth, as well as help regenerate and accelerate the repair of aged or injured muscle, skin collagen, bone, cartilage and nerve tissues. Growth factors also stimulate the body to burn fat for fuel instead of the body's own muscle tissue in times of fasting (diet). Growth factors also help build lean muscle. IGF-1 is one of the few substances known that can stimulate the repair and growth of DNA and RNA. These growth factors help balance blood sugar levels as well as help control mood swings. In addition, growth factors can be used as an effective topical application for burns, injuries and skin rejuvenation. VITAMINS AND MINERALS: Colostrum is not a supplement... it is the whole food for the newborn... its combination of vitamins and minerals are naturally occurring and in perfect combination. Marcus wrote: Maybe we all need to have a chat about PNEUMONIA . Ways to help prevent it not just after surgery of course. Hate to have to say it here, but its a killer when we are weak or ill so lets get our heads together, get some advice ! Tired of loosing friends to it. 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2000 Report Share Posted October 21, 2000 I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. Marcus > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > there is actually a vaccine for this! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2000 Report Share Posted October 21, 2000 I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. Marcus > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > there is actually a vaccine for this! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2000 Report Share Posted October 21, 2000 I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. Marcus > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > there is actually a vaccine for this! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 WellJust a question.If you take this vaccine to stop the pnemonia,then wouldn't you be eliminating on of the biggest(not pleasent)warning signs that food is going into your lungs?.I mean,The vaccine wouldn't stop tha,and that kills too. Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 the one good for this when it happens is pucheen or moonshine with the hillbillies and it does work it can kill of any infection and a good glass of water the next morning it repeats the process wildddd stuff J.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Yeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed our friends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know my very best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in the hospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but I think i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the most common and lethal forms od pneumonia. Marcus wrote: > I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. > Marcus > > > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > > there is actually a vaccine for this! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Yeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed our friends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know my very best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in the hospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but I think i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the most common and lethal forms od pneumonia. Marcus wrote: > I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. > Marcus > > > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > > there is actually a vaccine for this! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Yeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed our friends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know my very best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in the hospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but I think i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the most common and lethal forms od pneumonia. Marcus wrote: > I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. > Marcus > > > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > > there is actually a vaccine for this! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Thanks for the most informative link rosemary. i'm going to ask my md also, maybe he can shed some light. When i 1st started taking colostrum, i felt icky, but i am very honest when i say abt 2 weeks later and thereafter i felt the best i felt in ages. this was RIGHT before my C5 surgery also which went off without a hitch and i was home in 3 days, healed fast. Prowse wrote: > dear cindi, > thanks for your pneumonia post! > RE;colostrum: I recommend you read about growth factors at > http://www.cancergenetics.org/cagf.htm > I actually recommend reading through the whole site > Nf2 is a cancer gene (albeit in the tumor-suppresor class). > got heavy flu symptoms from the colostrum as they indicate. > rosemary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Marcus: You only have to have the pneumonia shot once in your life I believe -- I'm going to get it this year when I get my flu shot and find out for sure. Charlotte Re: pneumonia > I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. > Marcus > > > > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > > there is actually a vaccine for this! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Marcus: You only have to have the pneumonia shot once in your life I believe -- I'm going to get it this year when I get my flu shot and find out for sure. Charlotte Re: pneumonia > I would think this a MUST have item before serious surgery.. > Marcus > > > > I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting > > there is actually a vaccine for this! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Hi There sure is, I had my shot last week along with one for Flu. My family doctor agreed with me that it could be very dangerous for me to catch Flu so close to my operation, and researched about how we are so much at risk from pneumonia. . pneumonia I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting there is actually a vaccine for this! PREVENTING PNEUMONIA IS POSSIBLE Because pneumonia is a common complication of influenza (flu), getting a flu shot every fall is good pneumonia prevention. Vaccine is also available to help fight pneumococcal pneumonia, one type of bacterial pneumonia. Your doctor can help you decide if you, or a member of your family, needs the vaccine against pneumococcal pneumonia. It is usually given only to people at high risk of getting the disease and its life-threatening complications. The greatest risk of pneumococcal pneumonia is usually among people who: . Have chronic illnesses such as lung disease, heart disease, kidney disorders, sickle cell anemia, or diabetes. . Are recovering from severe illness . Are in nursing homes or other chronic care facilities . Are age 65 or older If you are at risk, ask your doctor for the vaccine. The vaccine is generally given only once. Ask your doctor about any revaccination recommendations. The vaccine is not recommended for pregnant women or children under age two. Since pneumonia often follows ordinary respiratory infections, the most important preventive measure is to be alert to any symptoms of respiratory trouble that linger more than a few days.Good health habits, proper diet and hygiene, rest, regular exercise, etc., increase resistance to all respiratory illnesses. They also help promote fast recovery when illness does occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Hi There sure is, I had my shot last week along with one for Flu. My family doctor agreed with me that it could be very dangerous for me to catch Flu so close to my operation, and researched about how we are so much at risk from pneumonia. . pneumonia I been researching thing, guess its my latest fear. Found it interesting there is actually a vaccine for this! PREVENTING PNEUMONIA IS POSSIBLE Because pneumonia is a common complication of influenza (flu), getting a flu shot every fall is good pneumonia prevention. Vaccine is also available to help fight pneumococcal pneumonia, one type of bacterial pneumonia. Your doctor can help you decide if you, or a member of your family, needs the vaccine against pneumococcal pneumonia. It is usually given only to people at high risk of getting the disease and its life-threatening complications. The greatest risk of pneumococcal pneumonia is usually among people who: . Have chronic illnesses such as lung disease, heart disease, kidney disorders, sickle cell anemia, or diabetes. . Are recovering from severe illness . Are in nursing homes or other chronic care facilities . Are age 65 or older If you are at risk, ask your doctor for the vaccine. The vaccine is generally given only once. Ask your doctor about any revaccination recommendations. The vaccine is not recommended for pregnant women or children under age two. Since pneumonia often follows ordinary respiratory infections, the most important preventive measure is to be alert to any symptoms of respiratory trouble that linger more than a few days.Good health habits, proper diet and hygiene, rest, regular exercise, etc., increase resistance to all respiratory illnesses. They also help promote fast recovery when illness does occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 , Go to your Md armed with printouts about growth factors, the new life colostrum info etc. Sometimes their memories need a little jolt back to these areas they covered back in Med school. I did this last week, I have changed Md's to one that is also a naturapath, homeopath as well as a straight dr. i have no doubt about the benefits of colostrum for the immune system.. just want you to check out the impact of growth factors when you have mutated tumor-suppressor gene. they claim it only encourages good cell proliferation and have shown it to inhibit cancer growth....still check it out. If you have been on it for 8 months, have your MrI's shown any changes in rate of tumor growth? I also think it is worth mentioning re the liver enzymes, it could be a good sign. rosemary on 23/10/00 6:45 AM, Henrion at cinnyd@... wrote: > Thanks for the most informative link rosemary. i'm going to ask my md > also, maybe he can shed some light. When i 1st started taking > colostrum, i felt icky, but i am very honest when i say abt 2 weeks > later and thereafter i felt the best i felt in ages. this was RIGHT > before my C5 surgery also which went off without a hitch and i was home > in 3 days, healed fast. > > Prowse wrote: > >> dear cindi, >> thanks for your pneumonia post! >> RE;colostrum: I recommend you read about growth factors at >> http://www.cancergenetics.org/cagf.htm >> I actually recommend reading through the whole site >> Nf2 is a cancer gene (albeit in the tumor-suppresor class). >> got heavy flu symptoms from the colostrum as they indicate. >> rosemary. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 , Go to your Md armed with printouts about growth factors, the new life colostrum info etc. Sometimes their memories need a little jolt back to these areas they covered back in Med school. I did this last week, I have changed Md's to one that is also a naturapath, homeopath as well as a straight dr. i have no doubt about the benefits of colostrum for the immune system.. just want you to check out the impact of growth factors when you have mutated tumor-suppressor gene. they claim it only encourages good cell proliferation and have shown it to inhibit cancer growth....still check it out. If you have been on it for 8 months, have your MrI's shown any changes in rate of tumor growth? I also think it is worth mentioning re the liver enzymes, it could be a good sign. rosemary on 23/10/00 6:45 AM, Henrion at cinnyd@... wrote: > Thanks for the most informative link rosemary. i'm going to ask my md > also, maybe he can shed some light. When i 1st started taking > colostrum, i felt icky, but i am very honest when i say abt 2 weeks > later and thereafter i felt the best i felt in ages. this was RIGHT > before my C5 surgery also which went off without a hitch and i was home > in 3 days, healed fast. > > Prowse wrote: > >> dear cindi, >> thanks for your pneumonia post! >> RE;colostrum: I recommend you read about growth factors at >> http://www.cancergenetics.org/cagf.htm >> I actually recommend reading through the whole site >> Nf2 is a cancer gene (albeit in the tumor-suppresor class). >> got heavy flu symptoms from the colostrum as they indicate. >> rosemary. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 , Go to your Md armed with printouts about growth factors, the new life colostrum info etc. Sometimes their memories need a little jolt back to these areas they covered back in Med school. I did this last week, I have changed Md's to one that is also a naturapath, homeopath as well as a straight dr. i have no doubt about the benefits of colostrum for the immune system.. just want you to check out the impact of growth factors when you have mutated tumor-suppressor gene. they claim it only encourages good cell proliferation and have shown it to inhibit cancer growth....still check it out. If you have been on it for 8 months, have your MrI's shown any changes in rate of tumor growth? I also think it is worth mentioning re the liver enzymes, it could be a good sign. rosemary on 23/10/00 6:45 AM, Henrion at cinnyd@... wrote: > Thanks for the most informative link rosemary. i'm going to ask my md > also, maybe he can shed some light. When i 1st started taking > colostrum, i felt icky, but i am very honest when i say abt 2 weeks > later and thereafter i felt the best i felt in ages. this was RIGHT > before my C5 surgery also which went off without a hitch and i was home > in 3 days, healed fast. > > Prowse wrote: > >> dear cindi, >> thanks for your pneumonia post! >> RE;colostrum: I recommend you read about growth factors at >> http://www.cancergenetics.org/cagf.htm >> I actually recommend reading through the whole site >> Nf2 is a cancer gene (albeit in the tumor-suppresor class). >> got heavy flu symptoms from the colostrum as they indicate. >> rosemary. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 i'm sure it doesnt stop tht jimmy. and like i said, there are different types of pneumonia, vacine only foer one, the most common. Jimmy wrote: > WellJust a question.If you take this vaccine to stop the pnemonia,then > wouldn't you be eliminating on of the biggest(not pleasent)warning signs > that food is going into your lungs?.I mean,The vaccine wouldn't stop tha,and > that kills too. > Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 i'm sure it doesnt stop tht jimmy. and like i said, there are different types of pneumonia, vacine only foer one, the most common. Jimmy wrote: > WellJust a question.If you take this vaccine to stop the pnemonia,then > wouldn't you be eliminating on of the biggest(not pleasent)warning signs > that food is going into your lungs?.I mean,The vaccine wouldn't stop tha,and > that kills too. > Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 However, , I think much of the pneumonia that kills crew members is caused by aspirating (choking and swallowing in the lungs) on food. I don't think any sort of imunization or vaccination would help there. Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:42:49 -0400 Subject: Re: pneumoniaYeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed ourfriends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know myvery best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in thehospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but Ithink i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the mostcommon and lethal forms od pneumonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 However, , I think much of the pneumonia that kills crew members is caused by aspirating (choking and swallowing in the lungs) on food. I don't think any sort of imunization or vaccination would help there. Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:42:49 -0400 Subject: Re: pneumoniaYeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed ourfriends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know myvery best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in thehospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but Ithink i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the mostcommon and lethal forms od pneumonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 Good point. Marie Re: pneumoniaYeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed ourfriends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know myvery best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in thehospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but Ithink i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the mostcommon and lethal forms od pneumonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 Good point. Marie Re: pneumoniaYeah, I agree. I mean, look at the statistics, NF2 tumors have killed ourfriends ,but many many times pneumonia plays a huge part of it too. I know myvery best friend Ginger (jimmy's sis) had pneumonia several times while in thehospital and care facility before she died. There are different types, but Ithink i will inquire with my MD if this vaccine is good against the mostcommon and lethal forms od pneumonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 I hope Don feels better soon! Take care of yourself! Peace, and may all be auspicious, Ohm Ma Ni Pad Me Hum " May all beings have freedom from suffering and the causes of suffering. " pneumonia HI ALL. I'M JUST GETTING CAUGHT UP ON THE MAIL. DON HAS BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING AROUND THE LAST COUPLE DAYS. THOSE FEET JUST ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE ON THEIR OWN. THIS MORNING HE SPIKED A LITTLE FEVER. I ENDED UP TAKING HIM TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR EVAL. WELL THE LITTLE STINKER HAS COME DOWN WITH PNEUMONIA. THE KIDS ARE JUMPING IN TO HELP ME AND WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP HIM AT HOME. HOSPITAL SAID IT WAS MY CALL. THE ONLY THING THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS IF I COULD MOVE HIM. IF THERE IS TWO OF US WE CAN GET HIM WHERE EVER WE WANT. HAD TO BRING HIM HOME, HE WAS THERE ONLY A FEW HOURS WHILE THEY GAVE HIM IV MEDS AND WORKED HIM UP FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. LITERALLY. THEY COMPLEMENTED ME ON HIS CARE AND THE GOOD CONDITION HIS SKIN IS IN. I CAN'T TAKE ALL THE CREDIT. WE HAVE WONDERFUL HOME HEALTH CARE FROM EASTER SEALS THROUGH PASSPORT HERE IN OHIO. HE GETS ROM TO ALL EXTREMITIES EVERYDAY AND AN AID TO BATH HIM AND GET HIM SET UP FOR THE DAY. THAT IS THE HARDEST PART OF THE DAY.. T HEY ARE STARTING TO PROVIDE HIM WITH AN HOUR AT NIGHT TO GIVE ME A HAND TO GET HIM INTO BED. THIS ORDERLY IS SO GOOD THAT HE PUT HIM IN THE CAR FOR ME AND WENT TO THE HOSPITAL WITH US TO GET HIM OUT OF THE CAR. OUR SON AND DAUGHTER ARE KICKING IN MORE TIME FOR HIM NOW. WE HAVE THE GRANDKIDS MORE OFTEN AND DON JUST LOVES THAT. OUR DAUGHTER NEEDS MORE HELP SINCE HER HUSBAND HAS TAKEN OFF AGAIN AND IS NOT GIVING HER ANY SUPPORT. THEY HAD BEEN MARRIED BEFORE, DIVORCED AND REMARRIED. THE FIRST TIME WAS A MISTAKE SO NOW SHE HAS TWO KIDS A HOUSE SHE CAN'T AFFORD SHUT OFF NOTICES AND EXPECT TO SEE THEM HERE WITH US AGAIN BEFORE CHRISTMAS. THE BABY WILL SOON BE 16 MONTHS AND INTO EVERYTHING. WE HAVE BABY GATES ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE ARE SO NASTY. WE BLOCK THE LIVING ROOM WITH THE PLAYPEN SO SHE CAN'T GET OUT AND I DON'T HAVE TO PLAY CATCH ME IF YOU CAN. SHE'S LUCKY THAT I ONLY OCCASIONALLY PUT HER IN THE PLAYPEN FOR A TIME OUT. ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE TELLS ME TO SHUT UP WHEN I GO TO GET HER OUT OF SOMETHING. REMEMBER SOMETIME AGO WHEN I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE MOTHER'S CURSE. " I HOPE YOU HAVE ONE JUST LIKE YOU " AND I DOUBLED IT ON MY DAUGHTER. WELL SHE DID. LOVE TO ALL BONNIE & DON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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