Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Darrin, Your T4 has also dropped a bit.... and your T3 is pretty low.... has anything else changed between tests? You do have Hashi's and levels will fluctuate.. that is normal... the bottom line is how you feel.. if you are feeling good.... and your pulse and such are staying pretty steady and in a good range... I don't know if I'd be too concerned.... The labs values are only guidelines... the true measure is how you feel..... You say you're feeling pretty good? High five gal, High five! Topper () On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:14:23 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Hi All-Got my test results today and was wondering if they look ok to any ofyou or if you see anything off. Here's some background on how I was feeling around testing time: Theday before the test my pulse rate and blood pressure was unusuallylow, and the day after I took the test I got my period. We evacuatedfor hurricane Frances and after my period I was extremely irritable. Since Saturday I felt better for the first time in months, even HAPPY,and I am still feeling pretty good and happy. I have even beenexercising since Saturday.Free T4, 1.09 (ref. range 0.80 - 1.90 ng/dl)Free T3, 264 (ref. range 230-420 pg/dl)TSH, 1.12 (ref. range 0.5-6.0 uIU/ml)A month ago my test results were:Free T4, 1.43 (ref. range 0.80-1.90)TSH, 1.64 (ref. range 0.5-6.0) I am happy to see the TSH going down (even though I really don't put awhole lot of stock in the TSH test). I value all of your opinions andadvice and am looking forward to seeing what you think.Your hopeful, balding list friend and Hashi's survivor, Darrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Darrin, Your T4 has also dropped a bit.... and your T3 is pretty low.... has anything else changed between tests? You do have Hashi's and levels will fluctuate.. that is normal... the bottom line is how you feel.. if you are feeling good.... and your pulse and such are staying pretty steady and in a good range... I don't know if I'd be too concerned.... The labs values are only guidelines... the true measure is how you feel..... You say you're feeling pretty good? High five gal, High five! Topper () On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:14:23 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Hi All-Got my test results today and was wondering if they look ok to any ofyou or if you see anything off. Here's some background on how I was feeling around testing time: Theday before the test my pulse rate and blood pressure was unusuallylow, and the day after I took the test I got my period. We evacuatedfor hurricane Frances and after my period I was extremely irritable. Since Saturday I felt better for the first time in months, even HAPPY,and I am still feeling pretty good and happy. I have even beenexercising since Saturday.Free T4, 1.09 (ref. range 0.80 - 1.90 ng/dl)Free T3, 264 (ref. range 230-420 pg/dl)TSH, 1.12 (ref. range 0.5-6.0 uIU/ml)A month ago my test results were:Free T4, 1.43 (ref. range 0.80-1.90)TSH, 1.64 (ref. range 0.5-6.0) I am happy to see the TSH going down (even though I really don't put awhole lot of stock in the TSH test). I value all of your opinions andadvice and am looking forward to seeing what you think.Your hopeful, balding list friend and Hashi's survivor, Darrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Thanks , I think that was my first T3 test in a long time. For some reason my old endo. didn't think it was necessary. Anyhow, I know that the TSH has a broad ref. range that you can't really go by so was wondering if it's the same for T4 and T3 ref. ranges. If the free T3 is low, does that mean my body is having trouble converting the T4? I'm happily taking Armour 1/2 grain now, sublingually. Is it possible I could feel even better if I take more T3? I know my doc. won't go for that since I'm in the ref. ranges, but I have extra Armour from Mexico I am saving for situations like this. Just wondering what your opinion is. Are we associated with a hormone group now? Seem to remember some posting earlier about that. Thanks again!, Darrin (soon will change my name to Baldy) > Darrin, > > Your T4 has also dropped a bit.... and your T3 is pretty low.... has > anything else changed between tests? You do have Hashi's and levels will > fluctuate.. that is normal... the bottom line is how you feel.. if you > are feeling good.... and your pulse and such are staying pretty steady > and in a good range... I don't know if I'd be too concerned.... The labs > values are only guidelines... the true measure is how you feel..... > > You say you're feeling pretty good? High five gal, High five! > > Topper () > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Thanks , I think that was my first T3 test in a long time. For some reason my old endo. didn't think it was necessary. Anyhow, I know that the TSH has a broad ref. range that you can't really go by so was wondering if it's the same for T4 and T3 ref. ranges. If the free T3 is low, does that mean my body is having trouble converting the T4? I'm happily taking Armour 1/2 grain now, sublingually. Is it possible I could feel even better if I take more T3? I know my doc. won't go for that since I'm in the ref. ranges, but I have extra Armour from Mexico I am saving for situations like this. Just wondering what your opinion is. Are we associated with a hormone group now? Seem to remember some posting earlier about that. Thanks again!, Darrin (soon will change my name to Baldy) > Darrin, > > Your T4 has also dropped a bit.... and your T3 is pretty low.... has > anything else changed between tests? You do have Hashi's and levels will > fluctuate.. that is normal... the bottom line is how you feel.. if you > are feeling good.... and your pulse and such are staying pretty steady > and in a good range... I don't know if I'd be too concerned.... The labs > values are only guidelines... the true measure is how you feel..... > > You say you're feeling pretty good? High five gal, High five! > > Topper () > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Thanks , I think that was my first T3 test in a long time. For some reason my old endo. didn't think it was necessary. Anyhow, I know that the TSH has a broad ref. range that you can't really go by so was wondering if it's the same for T4 and T3 ref. ranges. If the free T3 is low, does that mean my body is having trouble converting the T4? I'm happily taking Armour 1/2 grain now, sublingually. Is it possible I could feel even better if I take more T3? I know my doc. won't go for that since I'm in the ref. ranges, but I have extra Armour from Mexico I am saving for situations like this. Just wondering what your opinion is. Are we associated with a hormone group now? Seem to remember some posting earlier about that. Thanks again!, Darrin (soon will change my name to Baldy) > Darrin, > > Your T4 has also dropped a bit.... and your T3 is pretty low.... has > anything else changed between tests? You do have Hashi's and levels will > fluctuate.. that is normal... the bottom line is how you feel.. if you > are feeling good.... and your pulse and such are staying pretty steady > and in a good range... I don't know if I'd be too concerned.... The labs > values are only guidelines... the true measure is how you feel..... > > You say you're feeling pretty good? High five gal, High five! > > Topper () > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'd try for boosting conversion, first... Small frequent meals Selenium (up to 400 mcg per day) Oh... another question.. How much time between taking your dose and having the blood draw? One thing I do to keep my levels as even as possible is multi-dosing the natural thyroid... every three to 4 hours.... You have to find a way that fits with your schedule...and still helps your body to work the best so that you feel your best.... Takes a bit of figuring... but it's worth it... Topper () On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:05:07 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Thanks , I think that was my first T3 test in a long time. For some reason myold endo. didn't think it was necessary. Anyhow, I know that the TSHhas a broad ref. range that you can't really go by so was wondering ifit's the same for T4 and T3 ref. ranges. If the free T3 is low, doesthat mean my body is having trouble converting the T4? I'm happilytaking Armour 1/2 grain now, sublingually. Is it possible I couldfeel even better if I take more T3? I know my doc. won't go for thatsince I'm in the ref. ranges, but I have extra Armour from Mexico I amsaving for situations like this. Just wondering what your opinion is.Are we associated with a hormone group now? Seem to remember someposting earlier about that. Thanks again!, Darrin (soon will change my name to Baldy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'd try for boosting conversion, first... Small frequent meals Selenium (up to 400 mcg per day) Oh... another question.. How much time between taking your dose and having the blood draw? One thing I do to keep my levels as even as possible is multi-dosing the natural thyroid... every three to 4 hours.... You have to find a way that fits with your schedule...and still helps your body to work the best so that you feel your best.... Takes a bit of figuring... but it's worth it... Topper () On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:05:07 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Thanks , I think that was my first T3 test in a long time. For some reason myold endo. didn't think it was necessary. Anyhow, I know that the TSHhas a broad ref. range that you can't really go by so was wondering ifit's the same for T4 and T3 ref. ranges. If the free T3 is low, doesthat mean my body is having trouble converting the T4? I'm happilytaking Armour 1/2 grain now, sublingually. Is it possible I couldfeel even better if I take more T3? I know my doc. won't go for thatsince I'm in the ref. ranges, but I have extra Armour from Mexico I amsaving for situations like this. Just wondering what your opinion is.Are we associated with a hormone group now? Seem to remember someposting earlier about that. Thanks again!, Darrin (soon will change my name to Baldy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'd try for boosting conversion, first... Small frequent meals Selenium (up to 400 mcg per day) Oh... another question.. How much time between taking your dose and having the blood draw? One thing I do to keep my levels as even as possible is multi-dosing the natural thyroid... every three to 4 hours.... You have to find a way that fits with your schedule...and still helps your body to work the best so that you feel your best.... Takes a bit of figuring... but it's worth it... Topper () On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:05:07 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Thanks , I think that was my first T3 test in a long time. For some reason myold endo. didn't think it was necessary. Anyhow, I know that the TSHhas a broad ref. range that you can't really go by so was wondering ifit's the same for T4 and T3 ref. ranges. If the free T3 is low, doesthat mean my body is having trouble converting the T4? I'm happilytaking Armour 1/2 grain now, sublingually. Is it possible I couldfeel even better if I take more T3? I know my doc. won't go for thatsince I'm in the ref. ranges, but I have extra Armour from Mexico I amsaving for situations like this. Just wondering what your opinion is.Are we associated with a hormone group now? Seem to remember someposting earlier about that. Thanks again!, Darrin (soon will change my name to Baldy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks - I already take Selenium and have small frequent meals (have been doing that for years!) I remember taking the test about 6 to 7 hours after taking my Armour. I'll try multi-dosing tomorrow and will see if that makes a difference. Right now I work my schedule to suit my health (and my son), so that's no prob. Thanks again for looking at my test results and for all your encouragement. I REALLY appreciate this group, and your help. Darrin > I'd try for boosting conversion, first... > > Small frequent meals > Selenium (up to 400 mcg per day) > > Oh... another question.. How much time between taking your dose and > having the blood draw? > > One thing I do to keep my levels as even as possible is multi-dosing the > natural thyroid... every three to 4 hours.... > > You have to find a way that fits with your schedule...and still helps > your body to work the best so that you feel your best.... > > Takes a bit of figuring... but it's worth it... > > Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks - I already take Selenium and have small frequent meals (have been doing that for years!) I remember taking the test about 6 to 7 hours after taking my Armour. I'll try multi-dosing tomorrow and will see if that makes a difference. Right now I work my schedule to suit my health (and my son), so that's no prob. Thanks again for looking at my test results and for all your encouragement. I REALLY appreciate this group, and your help. Darrin > I'd try for boosting conversion, first... > > Small frequent meals > Selenium (up to 400 mcg per day) > > Oh... another question.. How much time between taking your dose and > having the blood draw? > > One thing I do to keep my levels as even as possible is multi-dosing the > natural thyroid... every three to 4 hours.... > > You have to find a way that fits with your schedule...and still helps > your body to work the best so that you feel your best.... > > Takes a bit of figuring... but it's worth it... > > Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks - I already take Selenium and have small frequent meals (have been doing that for years!) I remember taking the test about 6 to 7 hours after taking my Armour. I'll try multi-dosing tomorrow and will see if that makes a difference. Right now I work my schedule to suit my health (and my son), so that's no prob. Thanks again for looking at my test results and for all your encouragement. I REALLY appreciate this group, and your help. Darrin > I'd try for boosting conversion, first... > > Small frequent meals > Selenium (up to 400 mcg per day) > > Oh... another question.. How much time between taking your dose and > having the blood draw? > > One thing I do to keep my levels as even as possible is multi-dosing the > natural thyroid... every three to 4 hours.... > > You have to find a way that fits with your schedule...and still helps > your body to work the best so that you feel your best.... > > Takes a bit of figuring... but it's worth it... > > Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 How much Selenium are you taking now? Selenium is best taken with food.. it has to do with the say it combines with amino acids in the food.... I forgot to mention that. Let me know how it goes... it's a bit of a trick to get your own body figured out and what is best for it... but don't give up... you're worth it and your son needs you! Topper () On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:18:49 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Thanks -I already take Selenium and have small frequent meals (have been doingthat for years!) I remember taking the test about 6 to 7 hours aftertaking my Armour. I'll try multi-dosing tomorrow and will see if thatmakes a difference. Right now I work my schedule to suit my health(and my son), so that's no prob.Thanks again for looking at my test results and for all yourencouragement. I REALLY appreciate this group, and your help.Darrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 How much Selenium are you taking now? Selenium is best taken with food.. it has to do with the say it combines with amino acids in the food.... I forgot to mention that. Let me know how it goes... it's a bit of a trick to get your own body figured out and what is best for it... but don't give up... you're worth it and your son needs you! Topper () On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:18:49 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Thanks -I already take Selenium and have small frequent meals (have been doingthat for years!) I remember taking the test about 6 to 7 hours aftertaking my Armour. I'll try multi-dosing tomorrow and will see if thatmakes a difference. Right now I work my schedule to suit my health(and my son), so that's no prob.Thanks again for looking at my test results and for all yourencouragement. I REALLY appreciate this group, and your help.Darrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 How much Selenium are you taking now? Selenium is best taken with food.. it has to do with the say it combines with amino acids in the food.... I forgot to mention that. Let me know how it goes... it's a bit of a trick to get your own body figured out and what is best for it... but don't give up... you're worth it and your son needs you! Topper () On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:18:49 -0000 "darringirl" writes: Thanks -I already take Selenium and have small frequent meals (have been doingthat for years!) I remember taking the test about 6 to 7 hours aftertaking my Armour. I'll try multi-dosing tomorrow and will see if thatmakes a difference. Right now I work my schedule to suit my health(and my son), so that's no prob.Thanks again for looking at my test results and for all yourencouragement. I REALLY appreciate this group, and your help.Darrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? What dose are you on now, and for how long? Sorry for forgetting.. but I just can't keep everyone straight in my head.... *blush* Topper () On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:56:08 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: hhhmmm.... Well I got my test results over the phone from a busy Dr. who barely would take time to give me numbers, but not ranges. So, until I can look them up online, or get a hard copy, that part is missing. He ran the standard hypo panel, and said that all were fine excpet for my total T4 which was low... so he's increasing my dose to 1 1/2 tablets? That would only be 3/4 of a grain.... is that even a dose? I can't believe it would be a problem to just take a WHOLE grain. I may end up self dosing. Or seeing the Dr in Spokane I need to take my son to. So.... my TSH was 1.89 ... definitely too high for me, though technically normal my T4 was 4.6 ( I thought the range for that was about 4.5-12.5 or something like that) my free T3 he said was 2.9. I know Free levels are measuring like 100-250... so I have a feeling this was total T3 in fact, not free T3 like he said. He claimed it was normal, but I'm not sure on the range on this one. Anyways, that's all I got. I'd rather just self dose beginning at 1 gr than do 3/4. Sisemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? What dose are you on now, and for how long? Sorry for forgetting.. but I just can't keep everyone straight in my head.... *blush* Topper () On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:56:08 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: hhhmmm.... Well I got my test results over the phone from a busy Dr. who barely would take time to give me numbers, but not ranges. So, until I can look them up online, or get a hard copy, that part is missing. He ran the standard hypo panel, and said that all were fine excpet for my total T4 which was low... so he's increasing my dose to 1 1/2 tablets? That would only be 3/4 of a grain.... is that even a dose? I can't believe it would be a problem to just take a WHOLE grain. I may end up self dosing. Or seeing the Dr in Spokane I need to take my son to. So.... my TSH was 1.89 ... definitely too high for me, though technically normal my T4 was 4.6 ( I thought the range for that was about 4.5-12.5 or something like that) my free T3 he said was 2.9. I know Free levels are measuring like 100-250... so I have a feeling this was total T3 in fact, not free T3 like he said. He claimed it was normal, but I'm not sure on the range on this one. Anyways, that's all I got. I'd rather just self dose beginning at 1 gr than do 3/4. Sisemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? What dose are you on now, and for how long? Sorry for forgetting.. but I just can't keep everyone straight in my head.... *blush* Topper () On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:56:08 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: hhhmmm.... Well I got my test results over the phone from a busy Dr. who barely would take time to give me numbers, but not ranges. So, until I can look them up online, or get a hard copy, that part is missing. He ran the standard hypo panel, and said that all were fine excpet for my total T4 which was low... so he's increasing my dose to 1 1/2 tablets? That would only be 3/4 of a grain.... is that even a dose? I can't believe it would be a problem to just take a WHOLE grain. I may end up self dosing. Or seeing the Dr in Spokane I need to take my son to. So.... my TSH was 1.89 ... definitely too high for me, though technically normal my T4 was 4.6 ( I thought the range for that was about 4.5-12.5 or something like that) my free T3 he said was 2.9. I know Free levels are measuring like 100-250... so I have a feeling this was total T3 in fact, not free T3 like he said. He claimed it was normal, but I'm not sure on the range on this one. Anyways, that's all I got. I'd rather just self dose beginning at 1 gr than do 3/4. Sisemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? ONLY 1/4 of a grain What dose are you on now, and for how long? I apologize! I should've included that, but just zipped it off too quickly! I've been taking 1/2 g of Armour for about 5 weeks now. I was really hoping to go to a full grain now. Do they even make 3/4 g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? ONLY 1/4 of a grain What dose are you on now, and for how long? I apologize! I should've included that, but just zipped it off too quickly! I've been taking 1/2 g of Armour for about 5 weeks now. I was really hoping to go to a full grain now. Do they even make 3/4 g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? ONLY 1/4 of a grain What dose are you on now, and for how long? I apologize! I should've included that, but just zipped it off too quickly! I've been taking 1/2 g of Armour for about 5 weeks now. I was really hoping to go to a full grain now. Do they even make 3/4 g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 No, they don't make a 3/4 grain.. here's the chart Armour ® Thyroid T3 (mcg) T4 (mcg) ¼ grain (15 mg) 2.25 9.50 1/2 grain (30 mg) 4.50 19.00 1 grain (60 mg) 9.00 38.00 1 ½ grains (90 mg) 13.50 57.00 2 grains (120 mg) 18.00 76.00 3 grains (180 mg) 27.00 114.00 4 grains (240 mg) 36.00 152.00 5 grains (300 mg) 45.00 190.00 Normally you'd take a 1/2 grain plus a 1/4 grain... or you'd split your 1/2 and take a half tab to make the quarter grain dose. You might do just fine jumping from 1/2 grain to 1 grain... I'd be chicken myself... If you want to go that way.. take 1/2 grain in the morning... and the second half in the afternoon.. so that you don't get so much T3 at one shot.. that is what your body will be reacting to... Again, my opinion... if you split the tabs.. and take a half tab four times a day.. it will reduce the stress to your heart in adjusting to the T3 and still get the extra into your system over the day's time. Remember... T4 takes 4 to 6 weeks to build in your tissues and reach it's full affect... T3 hits you pretty much right away and is 95% used up 4 hours after taking it. So the logic in dosing four times a day is that the T3 will stay more even in your system then taking it only once or twice... You still have to decide what is best for you... I'm just a worry wart after having gone mildly hyper after increasing faster than what my body could handle. The first time I had to lower my meds for about a month before bringing it back up to the good dose... the second time I tried (I was working on going from 2 1/2 grain to 3) I watched my symptoms closer and didn't get so messed up (the first time morning pulse was over 100 hundred and got worse during the day) so I just dropped back to 2 1/2. This spring, when my legs got bad I tried for 3 grain again and it took just fine... Now I'm contemplating 3 1/4... but I'm not sure... My basals are good, and until I can get a ride to the clinic, I won't know how my labs look... so I may just wait until I can get the labs to verify what I've been doing with dosing by symptoms is hunky dorey. It's not that I doubt myself... it's that I'm doing pretty good now, thyroid wise.. I don't know if I want to mess it up... .... and having said that.. winter is coming and there has been a lot of discussion about more hormone being needed during cold weather... Hmmmm, maybe I will reconsider the extra 1/4 grain..... Topper () On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:31:23 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? ONLY 1/4 of a grain What dose are you on now, and for how long? I apologize! I should've included that, but just zipped it off too quickly! I've been taking 1/2 g of Armour for about 5 weeks now. I was really hoping to go to a full grain now. Do they even make 3/4 g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 No, they don't make a 3/4 grain.. here's the chart Armour ® Thyroid T3 (mcg) T4 (mcg) ¼ grain (15 mg) 2.25 9.50 1/2 grain (30 mg) 4.50 19.00 1 grain (60 mg) 9.00 38.00 1 ½ grains (90 mg) 13.50 57.00 2 grains (120 mg) 18.00 76.00 3 grains (180 mg) 27.00 114.00 4 grains (240 mg) 36.00 152.00 5 grains (300 mg) 45.00 190.00 Normally you'd take a 1/2 grain plus a 1/4 grain... or you'd split your 1/2 and take a half tab to make the quarter grain dose. You might do just fine jumping from 1/2 grain to 1 grain... I'd be chicken myself... If you want to go that way.. take 1/2 grain in the morning... and the second half in the afternoon.. so that you don't get so much T3 at one shot.. that is what your body will be reacting to... Again, my opinion... if you split the tabs.. and take a half tab four times a day.. it will reduce the stress to your heart in adjusting to the T3 and still get the extra into your system over the day's time. Remember... T4 takes 4 to 6 weeks to build in your tissues and reach it's full affect... T3 hits you pretty much right away and is 95% used up 4 hours after taking it. So the logic in dosing four times a day is that the T3 will stay more even in your system then taking it only once or twice... You still have to decide what is best for you... I'm just a worry wart after having gone mildly hyper after increasing faster than what my body could handle. The first time I had to lower my meds for about a month before bringing it back up to the good dose... the second time I tried (I was working on going from 2 1/2 grain to 3) I watched my symptoms closer and didn't get so messed up (the first time morning pulse was over 100 hundred and got worse during the day) so I just dropped back to 2 1/2. This spring, when my legs got bad I tried for 3 grain again and it took just fine... Now I'm contemplating 3 1/4... but I'm not sure... My basals are good, and until I can get a ride to the clinic, I won't know how my labs look... so I may just wait until I can get the labs to verify what I've been doing with dosing by symptoms is hunky dorey. It's not that I doubt myself... it's that I'm doing pretty good now, thyroid wise.. I don't know if I want to mess it up... .... and having said that.. winter is coming and there has been a lot of discussion about more hormone being needed during cold weather... Hmmmm, maybe I will reconsider the extra 1/4 grain..... Topper () On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:31:23 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? ONLY 1/4 of a grain What dose are you on now, and for how long? I apologize! I should've included that, but just zipped it off too quickly! I've been taking 1/2 g of Armour for about 5 weeks now. I was really hoping to go to a full grain now. Do they even make 3/4 g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 No, they don't make a 3/4 grain.. here's the chart Armour ® Thyroid T3 (mcg) T4 (mcg) ¼ grain (15 mg) 2.25 9.50 1/2 grain (30 mg) 4.50 19.00 1 grain (60 mg) 9.00 38.00 1 ½ grains (90 mg) 13.50 57.00 2 grains (120 mg) 18.00 76.00 3 grains (180 mg) 27.00 114.00 4 grains (240 mg) 36.00 152.00 5 grains (300 mg) 45.00 190.00 Normally you'd take a 1/2 grain plus a 1/4 grain... or you'd split your 1/2 and take a half tab to make the quarter grain dose. You might do just fine jumping from 1/2 grain to 1 grain... I'd be chicken myself... If you want to go that way.. take 1/2 grain in the morning... and the second half in the afternoon.. so that you don't get so much T3 at one shot.. that is what your body will be reacting to... Again, my opinion... if you split the tabs.. and take a half tab four times a day.. it will reduce the stress to your heart in adjusting to the T3 and still get the extra into your system over the day's time. Remember... T4 takes 4 to 6 weeks to build in your tissues and reach it's full affect... T3 hits you pretty much right away and is 95% used up 4 hours after taking it. So the logic in dosing four times a day is that the T3 will stay more even in your system then taking it only once or twice... You still have to decide what is best for you... I'm just a worry wart after having gone mildly hyper after increasing faster than what my body could handle. The first time I had to lower my meds for about a month before bringing it back up to the good dose... the second time I tried (I was working on going from 2 1/2 grain to 3) I watched my symptoms closer and didn't get so messed up (the first time morning pulse was over 100 hundred and got worse during the day) so I just dropped back to 2 1/2. This spring, when my legs got bad I tried for 3 grain again and it took just fine... Now I'm contemplating 3 1/4... but I'm not sure... My basals are good, and until I can get a ride to the clinic, I won't know how my labs look... so I may just wait until I can get the labs to verify what I've been doing with dosing by symptoms is hunky dorey. It's not that I doubt myself... it's that I'm doing pretty good now, thyroid wise.. I don't know if I want to mess it up... .... and having said that.. winter is coming and there has been a lot of discussion about more hormone being needed during cold weather... Hmmmm, maybe I will reconsider the extra 1/4 grain..... Topper () On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:31:23 -0700 "J Sisemore" writes: Watch your basals... what will be the total increase? ONLY 1/4 of a grain What dose are you on now, and for how long? I apologize! I should've included that, but just zipped it off too quickly! I've been taking 1/2 g of Armour for about 5 weeks now. I was really hoping to go to a full grain now. Do they even make 3/4 g?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Sorry if this is duplicated, I can't find my post. Currently on: Isocort 10mcg/10/5/5, Cytomel: 10mcg/10/10/10. I first posted the following: TSH 0.009 (.450-4.500) T4 Free (direct) .40 (.61-1.76) T3 Free 3.4 (2.3-4.2) Reverse T3 <17 (90-350) DHEA 328 (110-554) D 25 Hydroxy 36 (32-100) Estradiol 99 (44-196) Progesterone 8.8 (4.4-28) Testosterone 25 (14-76) You said I was having a conversion problem, maybe Ferritin and I had the following test done: Iodine 227 (100-460) Cortisol 9:00am-9.6, Noon 17.9, 5:00 18.5 Renin .68 (1.31-3.95) Aldosterone 25.8 (1.0-16.0) B12 768 (211-911) Ferritin 33 (10-291) What do you think? I just thought of this, for the cortisol test on the noon and 5:00 I walked the stairs to the 2nd floor, would it effect cortisol that quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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