Re: Splenda Question

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I am wondering what Splenda is?

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

[Guest guest]

I am wondering what Splenda is?

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

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Some kind of sugar substitute that is actually made of sugar, from what I deduce from others' comments. It is supposed to be really low calorie...in a single serving FREE but probably like FF Cool Whip, in a cupful there would be some points to consider.

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

[Guest guest]

Some kind of sugar substitute that is actually made of sugar, from what I deduce from others' comments. It is supposed to be really low calorie...in a single serving FREE but probably like FF Cool Whip, in a cupful there would be some points to consider.

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

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Great stuff...can cook and bake with it......http://www.splenda.com/living/main.html

Subject: Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

[Guest guest]

Great stuff...can cook and bake with it......http://www.splenda.com/living/main.html

Subject: Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

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Great site. Thanks so much for the information:)

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

[Guest guest]

Great site. Thanks so much for the information:)

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

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Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

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HI!

Splenda is WONDERFUL!! I have used it in several different recipes. I couldn't find any calorie count on it so I didn't count it.

The recipes tasted the same as if I had used sugar.

Lois

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

[Guest guest]

HI!

Splenda is WONDERFUL!! I have used it in several different recipes. I couldn't find any calorie count on it so I didn't count it.

The recipes tasted the same as if I had used sugar.

Lois

Splenda Question

I am thinking of trying the peach cobbler recipe that was on here the other day and wonder if it would be possible to substitute Splenda for the 1 c sugar. If so, how many points would the Splenda be for 1 cup? Would it reduce the total points to 3? It sounds really good.Constance

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

I'm 34 years old and have been diabetic for 15 years now.

Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog twice a day and lantus at bedtime along

with avandia twice a day.

I have a question.

I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in BSG but

when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars, does anyone

know why and is this happen to anyone else?

Sincerely, Vikki

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

I'm 34 years old and have been diabetic for 15 years now.

Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog twice a day and lantus at bedtime along

with avandia twice a day.

I have a question.

I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in BSG but

when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars, does anyone

know why and is this happen to anyone else?

Sincerely, Vikki

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

I'm 34 years old and have been diabetic for 15 years now.

Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog twice a day and lantus at bedtime along

with avandia twice a day.

I have a question.

I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in BSG but

when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars, does anyone

know why and is this happen to anyone else?

Sincerely, Vikki

[Guest guest]

Vikki wrote:

> Hello All,

>

> My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska. I'm 34 years old and have

> been diabetic for 15 years now. Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog

> twice a day and lantus at bedtime along with avandia twice a day.

>

Hi Vikki and welcome to the group! I will leave the Splenda question to

others as I don't really know much about it. I'm sure someone here will

be able to answer your question.

Rick

[Guest guest]

Vikki wrote:

> Hello All,

>

> My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska. I'm 34 years old and have

> been diabetic for 15 years now. Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog

> twice a day and lantus at bedtime along with avandia twice a day.

>

Hi Vikki and welcome to the group! I will leave the Splenda question to

others as I don't really know much about it. I'm sure someone here will

be able to answer your question.

Rick

[Guest guest]

Vikki wrote:

> Hello All,

>

> My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska. I'm 34 years old and have

> been diabetic for 15 years now. Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog

> twice a day and lantus at bedtime along with avandia twice a day.

>

Hi Vikki and welcome to the group! I will leave the Splenda question to

others as I don't really know much about it. I'm sure someone here will

be able to answer your question.

Rick

[Guest guest]

Hi, Vikki, welcome to the list. I'm interested in the dosing program your

doc put you on. It sounds like he has you on a standard dose of

Humalog...but the meals you eat are obviously not the same every day. The

way Humalog works best is to base the amount of H taken on carbs eaten at

that meal, and since it's a fast acting insulin, it is best taken about 15

minutes before eating. It generally stops acting within 3 to 4 hours. So I

don't understand why your doc has you taking it the way he prescribed. Is it

working that way? How often do you test?

Another thing...since you're already taking insulin, why does he have you

taking Avandia? I assume you're a type 1 (as I am and a few others here).

Pills generally don't work with type 1s. What have your A1Cs been? What

kind of a meal plan do you follow?

As far as your question...I haven't had that experience...but as we say here,

YMMV, your mileage might vary. What works for one doesn't work for another.

So if it raises your BGs, don't use it. Vicki

<<

My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

I'm 34 years old and have been diabetic for 15 years now.

Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog twice a day and lantus at bedtime

along with avandia twice a day.

I have a question.

I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in BSG

but when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars, does

anyone know why and is this happen to anyone else?

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Vikki, welcome to the list. I'm interested in the dosing program your

doc put you on. It sounds like he has you on a standard dose of

Humalog...but the meals you eat are obviously not the same every day. The

way Humalog works best is to base the amount of H taken on carbs eaten at

that meal, and since it's a fast acting insulin, it is best taken about 15

minutes before eating. It generally stops acting within 3 to 4 hours. So I

don't understand why your doc has you taking it the way he prescribed. Is it

working that way? How often do you test?

Another thing...since you're already taking insulin, why does he have you

taking Avandia? I assume you're a type 1 (as I am and a few others here).

Pills generally don't work with type 1s. What have your A1Cs been? What

kind of a meal plan do you follow?

As far as your question...I haven't had that experience...but as we say here,

YMMV, your mileage might vary. What works for one doesn't work for another.

So if it raises your BGs, don't use it. Vicki

<<

My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

I'm 34 years old and have been diabetic for 15 years now.

Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog twice a day and lantus at bedtime

along with avandia twice a day.

I have a question.

I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in BSG

but when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars, does

anyone know why and is this happen to anyone else?

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Vikki, welcome to the list. I'm interested in the dosing program your

doc put you on. It sounds like he has you on a standard dose of

Humalog...but the meals you eat are obviously not the same every day. The

way Humalog works best is to base the amount of H taken on carbs eaten at

that meal, and since it's a fast acting insulin, it is best taken about 15

minutes before eating. It generally stops acting within 3 to 4 hours. So I

don't understand why your doc has you taking it the way he prescribed. Is it

working that way? How often do you test?

Another thing...since you're already taking insulin, why does he have you

taking Avandia? I assume you're a type 1 (as I am and a few others here).

Pills generally don't work with type 1s. What have your A1Cs been? What

kind of a meal plan do you follow?

As far as your question...I haven't had that experience...but as we say here,

YMMV, your mileage might vary. What works for one doesn't work for another.

So if it raises your BGs, don't use it. Vicki

<<

My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

I'm 34 years old and have been diabetic for 15 years now.

Currently my Dr just put me on Humalog twice a day and lantus at bedtime

along with avandia twice a day.

I have a question.

I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in BSG

but when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars, does

anyone know why and is this happen to anyone else?

>>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/25/02 7:44:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

grltzzr@... writes:

> Hello All,

> My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

> I have a question.

> I am able to eat some artificial sweetners without any serious spikes in

> BSG but when I try items with Splenda it seems to always spike my sugars,

> does anyone know why and is this happen to anyone else?

> Sincerely, Vikki

Vikki,

First, Splenda (Sucralose) is a modified sugar (sucrose) molecule that the

body is not supposed to let into the blood as glucose. Guess what? It doesn't

work that way for everybody, and you may be one of those. That's a really

simplified statement of what happens, but is the essence of it. As they say,

YMMV!

Second, when you say " items with Splenda " are you talking about something

simple like diet cola, or something more complex such as a " baked " good

(cake, bread, etc).

If Splenda is used in a recipe with other items such as flour to make, for

instance, a " sugar-free " cake or cookie, then the carbs in the rest of the

ingredients may be what is affecting your bg's.

If it is the diet cola that is affecting you, then the Splenda is undoubtedly

the problem, and you will have to find another sugar substitute to use.

If it is some other item, then you need to scrutinize the product label for

other carbs in it. Look at the " Total Carbohydrates. " Be aware also that

there are come carb-like things such as sugar alchohols (malitol, sorbitol,

etc) that do not have to be reflected in the " total carbs " on the label, and

these may or may not affect bg levels, also YMMV. If it appears there are

things in the ingredient list that don't seem to be accounted for in the

" total carbs, " then there is a way to calculate these " missing carbs. "

I can go into all this further if you wish. Probably better via private

e-mail off the list.

, T2

Oregon

[Guest guest]

Hi, Vikki...how long have you been diabetic?

An A1C test is a test that should be given every three months. It gives the

cumulative BG count for that period of time, with more emphasis on the last

six weeks. If you've never had one, your doctor is not doing right by you.

All diabetics should have this test at least once or twice a year and

newbies should have it every three months until things are well managed. Is

your doc an internist? Does he have a lot of diabetic patients? Have you

been going to him for a long time?

I'd strongly suggest you read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solultions " by

K. Bernstein, M.D. It's one of the best books about diabetes I've

ever read and will answer lots of your questions. Here's how you can get the

paperback version for not too much $$:

Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " by Dr Bernstein

is available in paperback from Bayer Co. for $8.00

including postage which is about 1/3 of retail price for the

hardback. The paperback is only available from Bayer.

Call Bayer direct at 1- and request Part

#0441445. Their ordering lines are open 8

am - 5 pm eastern standard time. They take Visa or

MasterCard.

He also has a website with excerpts from the book and lots of other good

stuff. The URL is

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml

You didn't say whether you were a type 1 or 2. Assuming you're a type 2,

there's another excellent book I highly recommend...it's called " The First

Year - Type 2 Diabetes, an Essential Guilde for the Newly Diagnosed, " by

Gretchen Becker.

The BG readings you've been having are way too high and if you continue with

those kinds of numbers, complications are sure to accrue. We try to keep our

BGs as close to normal as possible -- 100 is our goal. And A1Cs below 6.

These are possible. Eating a lowcarb diet is one way to get your BGs down.

How often are you testing? Because foods affect each of us differently, the

best way to find out what works for you is to eat and test and keep good

notes. You should test first thing in the morning - before you get out of

bed even - then test before eah meal and one and two hours afterwards.

Avoid the " whites " -- breads, rice, potatos, pasta, cereal and grain

products - along with the usual sugar " no's " . Also, root veggies tend to be

carbier so we try to avoid those too. This still leaves you with plenty of

food for a varied diet. Dr. Bernstein recommends about 30 carbs a day. NOTE:

This is not " servings " as per the ADA plan. A serving, if you're using

their system, is 15 carbs each. The ADA recommendations are for a much

higher carb diet than Dr. Bernstein recommends and most of us here follow.

This is pretty stringent and a lot of us use a somewhat modified version. I

consider myself a moderate carber - about 100 a day. I'm also a type 1 and

use insulin - Ultralente twice a day and Humalog before meals, amount based

on carbs at that meal.

Feel free to ask any questions. We're here to help. Vicki

<<

Vicki,

Thank you for the warm welcome. I have found this a great list already.

I'll try to answer some of your questions but I'll tell you right now just

in what you asked me has me calling my Doc On Monday morning. What exactly is

an A1C? So I don't sound stupid when asked why he has never given me one to

my knowledge.

I take the H in the morning before I eat breakfast and before dinner and

then the Lantus before bed and it has brought my sugars down from the 400's

to now in the mid 200's. Before I was on 75/25 and was takin 100 units twice

a day along with R as well. And still had BS of 450. He says the Avandia will

work I just mostly do what he says, But in the last couple of days have been

wondering if I should watch my carb count. If so what should most diabetincs

stick too if you have an opinion.

Well That's all I know for now but thanks again for the *eye opener* and

I'll be more vocal with my Dr.

Vikki >>

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In a message dated 1/26/02 1:33:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,

grltzzr@... writes:

> Vicki,

> .. What exactly is an A1C? So I don't sound stupid when asked why he has

> never given me one to my knowledge.

> I take the H in the morning before I eat breakfast and before dinner and

> then the Lantus before bed and it has brought my sugars down from the 400's

> to now in the mid 200's. Before I was on 75/25 and was takin 100 units

> twice a day along with R as well. And still had BS of 450. He says the

> Avandia will work I just mostly do what he says, But in the last couple of

> days have been wondering if I should watch my carb count. If so what should

> most diabetincs stick too if you have an opinion.

> Well That's all I know for now but thanks again for the *eye opener* and

> I'll be more vocal with my Dr.

> Vikki

Vikki,

I am not Vicki, but on the " A1C " question.

What she is talking about is a lab test called the " Glycated Hemoglobin A1c "

test. This is a blood test that shows the level of blood glucose in the blood

for about the last 3 months, with emphasis on the past few weeks.

It is expressed in percent (%), and the range for normal non-diabetics is

4.5% to 6.0%. It is related to the bg readings you are used to as follows:

HbA1c of 7% is equal to bg of 150mg/dl, and each % above & below 7 is equal

to 30 points of bg. For instance, HbA1c of 6% = 120mg/dl, and HbA1c of 8% =

180mg/dl.

Just as a " for instance, " your bg's that are in the mid 200's (lets say

250mg/dl) are equal to a HbA1c of 10.33%, When you were in the 400's (lets

say just 400), that is equal to a HbA1c of 15.33%.

The importance of all this is that the HbA1c test result is the best

predictor of the risk of getting all those horrible complications that we

diabetics are subject to. It is in the best interest of all diabetics to

strive to be in the range of the normal non-diabetic, or if that is not as

possible then get as close as you can. The risk for complications increases

above 6% (some say even lower), and it gets worse at an increasing rate the

higher you go.

I don't mean to scare you, but at the over 200 levels your complication risk

is quite high, and it behooves you to do whatever is necessary to get it

down. I would have hoped that your DR or diabetes educator would have

explained all this to you, but then I know that doesn't happen in a large

number of cases. I would consider a DR that didn't give a person in your

situation a HbA1c test to be not doing their job, and would wonder if they

really understood diabetes treatment. Don't be afraid to challenge your DR

when what he says doesn't work or make sense to you.

This is a really quick & dirty explanation of what is going on. I would be

happy to delve further if you have questions, off the list privately if you

wish.

I am not a trained medical person, and can't say what will work for anyone

else, but have been dealing with my diabetes and researching it for almost 4

years now, and know what works for me and some of the important basics.

, T2

Oregon

[Guest guest]

Hi, Vikki! Welcome to the list :-)

Sandy

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> My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Vikki! Welcome to the list :-)

Sandy

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> My name is Vikki and I live in Nebraska.