Re: Still Exhausted, Unable to Raise SRT3

[Guest guest]

So, I upped my HC dose yesterday to 27.5mg and had a little more

energy. My basal temp this morning was 97.7 and my avg temp

yesterday was 98.6. My blood pressure today, sitting was 120/69,

standing was 92/65. I took it again a bit later and sitting was

113/69, standing was 97/63.

So judging from my BP readings, it looks like I may not be on my

optimal dose of HC and may need more???? Is this why my temps

aren't lowering to allow me to increase my SRT3??? Or maybe I need

to just split up some more SRT3 capsules and try taking a bit more

and see if I tolerate it and if it increases my energy......?? I'm

feeling a bit confounded here.

I would really appreciate any advice on how to proceed. Thanks so

much for any help you can give me.

ka

>

> Hi all,

>

> I upped my dose of SRT3 from 12.5mcg to 25mcg on 2/20 (12.5am,

> 12.5pm). Still taking 30mg Armour (15mg am, 15mg pm), per Val's

> advice and that of my Dr. Been on 25mg HC since 2/1 and I had to

> increase my HC from 25mg to 30mg for a couple days to help me

> tolerate the SRT3 raise, then went back down to 25mg by 2/24.

I've

> been diligently graphing my temps, waiting for them to drop again

so

> that I can raise the SRT3 again, but they're not dropping and I'm

> still completely exhausted.

>

> My temps have been pretty stable, with the exception of a couple

of

> days where they blipped higher (don't know why - not coming down

> with anything). Here are my temps, beginning with the ones from

> 2/24 when I went back down to 25mg HC.

>

> Basal - 98.0 - missed next day's - 98.1 - 98.0 - 98.0 - 97.9

> Avg Temps - 98.5 - 98.5 - 98.8 - 98.5 - 98.8

>

> Just took my blood pressure, sitting and standing. Sitting was

> 115/76, standing was 120/71.

>

> I've been dosing my HC as 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5 - 2.5. I'm

wondering

> if my fatigue means I need to raise my HC or it's just because I'm

> still on such a low dose of SRT3?? My fatigue is worst in the

> afternoons, so maybe I need to raise the second or third dose of

HC??

> Or should I try to increase the SRT3 even tho my temps aren't

> showing it's time???

>

> Lastly, I'm taking 50mg progesterone at night, as a sublingual

> troche. My doc prescribed it to help me sleep better.

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm re-posting my labs

> below for reference.

>

> ka

>

> Blood drawn on 1/19 around 8:30, before any thyroid meds or supps.

> Was

> on 75mg Armour and 15mg HC

> FT4 0.8 (range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL

> FT3 246 (range 230-420 pg/dL)

> RT3 14 (range 11-32 ng/dL)

> TSH 2.58 (range 0.40-4.50mIU/L)

> Ferritin 157 (range 10-232 ng/dL)

> Vitamin D 54 (range 20-100 ng/mL), although this was done by Quest

> so according to Vit D Council my standardized result would be 41.5

> Did not re-check antibodies as I already know I'm Hashi's

>

> I had a 24-hour saliva cortisol test done by ZRT Lab on 12/20/07

> with these results:

>

> Morning 4.9 (range 3.7-9.5, collected 9:15am)

> Noon 0.7 (range 1.2-3.0, collected 12:00pm)

> Evening 0.4 (range 0.6-1.9, collected 4:15pm)

> Night 0.1 (range 0.4-1.0, collected 10:30pm)

> At that time I was taking 50mg DHEA daily (divided into two

doses).

> Stopped DHEA around 2/7/09.

>

[Guest guest]

So, I upped my HC dose yesterday to 27.5mg and had a little more

energy. My basal temp this morning was 97.7 and my avg temp

yesterday was 98.6. My blood pressure today, sitting was 120/69,

standing was 92/65. I took it again a bit later and sitting was

113/69, standing was 97/63.

So judging from my BP readings, it looks like I may not be on my

optimal dose of HC and may need more???? Is this why my temps

aren't lowering to allow me to increase my SRT3??? Or maybe I need

to just split up some more SRT3 capsules and try taking a bit more

and see if I tolerate it and if it increases my energy......?? I'm

feeling a bit confounded here.

I would really appreciate any advice on how to proceed. Thanks so

much for any help you can give me.

ka

>

> Hi all,

>

> I upped my dose of SRT3 from 12.5mcg to 25mcg on 2/20 (12.5am,

> 12.5pm). Still taking 30mg Armour (15mg am, 15mg pm), per Val's

> advice and that of my Dr. Been on 25mg HC since 2/1 and I had to

> increase my HC from 25mg to 30mg for a couple days to help me

> tolerate the SRT3 raise, then went back down to 25mg by 2/24.

I've

> been diligently graphing my temps, waiting for them to drop again

so

> that I can raise the SRT3 again, but they're not dropping and I'm

> still completely exhausted.

>

> My temps have been pretty stable, with the exception of a couple

of

> days where they blipped higher (don't know why - not coming down

> with anything). Here are my temps, beginning with the ones from

> 2/24 when I went back down to 25mg HC.

>

> Basal - 98.0 - missed next day's - 98.1 - 98.0 - 98.0 - 97.9

> Avg Temps - 98.5 - 98.5 - 98.8 - 98.5 - 98.8

>

> Just took my blood pressure, sitting and standing. Sitting was

> 115/76, standing was 120/71.

>

> I've been dosing my HC as 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5 - 2.5. I'm

wondering

> if my fatigue means I need to raise my HC or it's just because I'm

> still on such a low dose of SRT3?? My fatigue is worst in the

> afternoons, so maybe I need to raise the second or third dose of

HC??

> Or should I try to increase the SRT3 even tho my temps aren't

> showing it's time???

>

> Lastly, I'm taking 50mg progesterone at night, as a sublingual

> troche. My doc prescribed it to help me sleep better.

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm re-posting my labs

> below for reference.

>

> ka

>

> Blood drawn on 1/19 around 8:30, before any thyroid meds or supps.

> Was

> on 75mg Armour and 15mg HC

> FT4 0.8 (range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL

> FT3 246 (range 230-420 pg/dL)

> RT3 14 (range 11-32 ng/dL)

> TSH 2.58 (range 0.40-4.50mIU/L)

> Ferritin 157 (range 10-232 ng/dL)

> Vitamin D 54 (range 20-100 ng/mL), although this was done by Quest

> so according to Vit D Council my standardized result would be 41.5

> Did not re-check antibodies as I already know I'm Hashi's

>

> I had a 24-hour saliva cortisol test done by ZRT Lab on 12/20/07

> with these results:

>

> Morning 4.9 (range 3.7-9.5, collected 9:15am)

> Noon 0.7 (range 1.2-3.0, collected 12:00pm)

> Evening 0.4 (range 0.6-1.9, collected 4:15pm)

> Night 0.1 (range 0.4-1.0, collected 10:30pm)

> At that time I was taking 50mg DHEA daily (divided into two

doses).

> Stopped DHEA around 2/7/09.

>

[Guest guest]

So, I upped my HC dose yesterday to 27.5mg and had a little more

energy. My basal temp this morning was 97.7 and my avg temp

yesterday was 98.6. My blood pressure today, sitting was 120/69,

standing was 92/65. I took it again a bit later and sitting was

113/69, standing was 97/63.

So judging from my BP readings, it looks like I may not be on my

optimal dose of HC and may need more???? Is this why my temps

aren't lowering to allow me to increase my SRT3??? Or maybe I need

to just split up some more SRT3 capsules and try taking a bit more

and see if I tolerate it and if it increases my energy......?? I'm

feeling a bit confounded here.

I would really appreciate any advice on how to proceed. Thanks so

much for any help you can give me.

ka

>

> Hi all,

>

> I upped my dose of SRT3 from 12.5mcg to 25mcg on 2/20 (12.5am,

> 12.5pm). Still taking 30mg Armour (15mg am, 15mg pm), per Val's

> advice and that of my Dr. Been on 25mg HC since 2/1 and I had to

> increase my HC from 25mg to 30mg for a couple days to help me

> tolerate the SRT3 raise, then went back down to 25mg by 2/24.

I've

> been diligently graphing my temps, waiting for them to drop again

so

> that I can raise the SRT3 again, but they're not dropping and I'm

> still completely exhausted.

>

> My temps have been pretty stable, with the exception of a couple

of

> days where they blipped higher (don't know why - not coming down

> with anything). Here are my temps, beginning with the ones from

> 2/24 when I went back down to 25mg HC.

>

> Basal - 98.0 - missed next day's - 98.1 - 98.0 - 98.0 - 97.9

> Avg Temps - 98.5 - 98.5 - 98.8 - 98.5 - 98.8

>

> Just took my blood pressure, sitting and standing. Sitting was

> 115/76, standing was 120/71.

>

> I've been dosing my HC as 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5 - 2.5. I'm

wondering

> if my fatigue means I need to raise my HC or it's just because I'm

> still on such a low dose of SRT3?? My fatigue is worst in the

> afternoons, so maybe I need to raise the second or third dose of

HC??

> Or should I try to increase the SRT3 even tho my temps aren't

> showing it's time???

>

> Lastly, I'm taking 50mg progesterone at night, as a sublingual

> troche. My doc prescribed it to help me sleep better.

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm re-posting my labs

> below for reference.

>

> ka

>

> Blood drawn on 1/19 around 8:30, before any thyroid meds or supps.

> Was

> on 75mg Armour and 15mg HC

> FT4 0.8 (range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL

> FT3 246 (range 230-420 pg/dL)

> RT3 14 (range 11-32 ng/dL)

> TSH 2.58 (range 0.40-4.50mIU/L)

> Ferritin 157 (range 10-232 ng/dL)

> Vitamin D 54 (range 20-100 ng/mL), although this was done by Quest

> so according to Vit D Council my standardized result would be 41.5

> Did not re-check antibodies as I already know I'm Hashi's

>

> I had a 24-hour saliva cortisol test done by ZRT Lab on 12/20/07

> with these results:

>

> Morning 4.9 (range 3.7-9.5, collected 9:15am)

> Noon 0.7 (range 1.2-3.0, collected 12:00pm)

> Evening 0.4 (range 0.6-1.9, collected 4:15pm)

> Night 0.1 (range 0.4-1.0, collected 10:30pm)

> At that time I was taking 50mg DHEA daily (divided into two

doses).

> Stopped DHEA around 2/7/09.

>

[Guest guest]

I think you need to have aldosterone tested. Seems liek when I see

unrealistically high temps with hypo/adrenal folks I also see aldosterone

issues.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

I think you need to have aldosterone tested. Seems liek when I see

unrealistically high temps with hypo/adrenal folks I also see aldosterone

issues.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

I think you need to have aldosterone tested. Seems liek when I see

unrealistically high temps with hypo/adrenal folks I also see aldosterone

issues.

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the reply, Val. I'll check with my doc about the

test.

ka

>

> I think you need to have aldosterone tested. Seems liek when I see

> unrealistically high temps with hypo/adrenal folks I also see

aldosterone

> issues.

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ka

For whatever its worth, I was on SRT3 from a really good pharmacy and it seemed

to have an odd reverse effect on me. I don't know if it was because I combined

it with cytomel, but as soon as I went on all cytomel I felt better. I have no

idea if that would be true for you, but if all else fails maybe you could try it

(unless you already have, which is a possibility)

Good luck!

>

> Hi all,

>

> I upped my dose of SRT3 from 12.5mcg to 25mcg on 2/20 (12.5am,

> 12.5pm). Still taking 30mg Armour (15mg am, 15mg pm), per Val's

> advice and that of my Dr. Been on 25mg HC since 2/1 and I had to

> increase my HC from 25mg to 30mg for a couple days to help me

> tolerate the SRT3 raise, then went back down to 25mg by 2/24. I've

> been diligently graphing my temps, waiting for them to drop again so

> that I can raise the SRT3 again, but they're not dropping and I'm

> still completely exhausted.

>

> My temps have been pretty stable, with the exception of a couple of

> days where they blipped higher (don't know why - not coming down

> with anything). Here are my temps, beginning with the ones from

> 2/24 when I went back down to 25mg HC.

>

> Basal - 98.0 - missed next day's - 98.1 - 98.0 - 98.0 - 97.9

> Avg Temps - 98.5 - 98.5 - 98.8 - 98.5 - 98.8

>

> Just took my blood pressure, sitting and standing. Sitting was

> 115/76, standing was 120/71.

>

> I've been dosing my HC as 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 - 2.5 - 2.5. I'm wondering

> if my fatigue means I need to raise my HC or it's just because I'm

> still on such a low dose of SRT3?? My fatigue is worst in the

> afternoons, so maybe I need to raise the second or third dose of HC??

> Or should I try to increase the SRT3 even tho my temps aren't

> showing it's time???

>

> Lastly, I'm taking 50mg progesterone at night, as a sublingual

> troche. My doc prescribed it to help me sleep better.

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm re-posting my labs

> below for reference.

>

> ka

>

> Blood drawn on 1/19 around 8:30, before any thyroid meds or supps.

> Was

> on 75mg Armour and 15mg HC

> FT4 0.8 (range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL

> FT3 246 (range 230-420 pg/dL)

> RT3 14 (range 11-32 ng/dL)

> TSH 2.58 (range 0.40-4.50mIU/L)

> Ferritin 157 (range 10-232 ng/dL)

> Vitamin D 54 (range 20-100 ng/mL), although this was done by Quest

> so according to Vit D Council my standardized result would be 41.5

> Did not re-check antibodies as I already know I'm Hashi's

>

> I had a 24-hour saliva cortisol test done by ZRT Lab on 12/20/07

> with these results:

>

> Morning 4.9 (range 3.7-9.5, collected 9:15am)

> Noon 0.7 (range 1.2-3.0, collected 12:00pm)

> Evening 0.4 (range 0.6-1.9, collected 4:15pm)

> Night 0.1 (range 0.4-1.0, collected 10:30pm)

> At that time I was taking 50mg DHEA daily (divided into two doses).

> Stopped DHEA around 2/7/09.

>

[Guest guest]

No, I haven't changed anything yet, as I'm waiting for aldosterone lab results

to come back. And I'll also be doing new thyroid labwork next week, which I bet

will show I'm still hypo since I'm still very tired all day. I'm hoping the

aldo test will give me some answers as to why my temps have been normal on such

a low dose of SRT3 and armour. If not and I'm showing really hypo on the new

thyroid labs, I'll probably ask my doc to switch me to cytomel, or back to

armour if my RT3 is under control. We'll see.....

Thanks for the suggestion,

ka

>

> Hi ka

> For whatever its worth, I was on SRT3 from a really good pharmacy and it

seemed to have an odd reverse effect on me. I don't know if it was because I

combined it with cytomel, but as soon as I went on all cytomel I felt better. I

have no idea if that would be true for you, but if all else fails maybe you

could try it (unless you already have, which is a possibility)

> Good luck!