RE: Government recommends lying to children

[Guest guest]

I say let's hide mom and dad's junk food and let them look for it - last

time I saw 2/3 of adults were overweight :-) When we play " peek " and say

" Where is mommy " - I guess I lied all those times because I was right there

behind my hands :-)

> **

>

>

> Two things:

> One - if I ask my daughter to find my purse somewhere in the house I am NOT

> lying. I simply can't remember where I put anything anymore.

> Two - My children & I participated in Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy (am

> I missing any?) and we all grew up fine.

>

> In humorous regard,

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

> utnutritionprof

> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:21 PM

>

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

>

> I admit it - I am evil - I actually let my kids believe that Santa was

> REAL.

>

> Lets practice those American values.

>

> Let me be free to interpret this as a mom pretends to lose her purse. If

> you want to see it that she is lying - you are free to see it that way too.

>

> Debra

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way

> to

> > > get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a

> day, and

> > > keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a

> one

> > > time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be

> effective.

> > > Just take the kid on a nature walk

> > > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> > > running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on

> purpose.

> > > Why didn't they do a commercial on

> > > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> > > washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > > >

> > > > jpress50@

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > i

> > >

> > > pre

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I say let's hide mom and dad's junk food and let them look for it - last

time I saw 2/3 of adults were overweight :-) When we play " peek " and say

" Where is mommy " - I guess I lied all those times because I was right there

behind my hands :-)

> **

>

>

> Two things:

> One - if I ask my daughter to find my purse somewhere in the house I am NOT

> lying. I simply can't remember where I put anything anymore.

> Two - My children & I participated in Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy (am

> I missing any?) and we all grew up fine.

>

> In humorous regard,

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

> utnutritionprof

> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:21 PM

>

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

>

> I admit it - I am evil - I actually let my kids believe that Santa was

> REAL.

>

> Lets practice those American values.

>

> Let me be free to interpret this as a mom pretends to lose her purse. If

> you want to see it that she is lying - you are free to see it that way too.

>

> Debra

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way

> to

> > > get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a

> day, and

> > > keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a

> one

> > > time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be

> effective.

> > > Just take the kid on a nature walk

> > > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> > > running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on

> purpose.

> > > Why didn't they do a commercial on

> > > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> > > washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > > >

> > > > jpress50@

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > i

> > >

> > > pre

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Wow , that's awesome!!! What a great role model you are. Is your eldest

son still competing? Are they interested in hunting too?

Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

The NATURAL dietitian

Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

jpress50@...

If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

Re: Government recommends lying to children

why is it teaching the value of exercise? Being fit and controlling weight is

much more than taking a nature walk. In fact - just increasing daily activity is

valuable in addition to planned physical activity. There is recent research to

show that sitting is a risk factor for heart disease even if there is daily

exercise. So having kids run around - just for activity is what they need to do.

and please tell me why we have to make it about exercise? why can't it be a

game? why can't we pretend?

I guess there will always be people who are critical and see the " plots " and

unfairness and the dark side of things.

personally I choose to see the giggles and laughter - I choose to Lighten Up!

Debra Boardley, PhD, RD

Department of Public Health

University of Toledo

>

> Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to get a

person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and keep

thinking of new tricks?

> How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one time

thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just take

the kid on a nature walk

> for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than running

around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why didn't

they do a commercial on

> a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store, washing

the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

>

>

> Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

>

>

>

>

> Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> The NATURAL dietitian

> Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

>

> jpress50@...

>

>

i

pre

[Guest guest]

Wow , that's awesome!!! What a great role model you are. Is your eldest

son still competing? Are they interested in hunting too?

Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

The NATURAL dietitian

Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

jpress50@...

If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

Re: Government recommends lying to children

why is it teaching the value of exercise? Being fit and controlling weight is

much more than taking a nature walk. In fact - just increasing daily activity is

valuable in addition to planned physical activity. There is recent research to

show that sitting is a risk factor for heart disease even if there is daily

exercise. So having kids run around - just for activity is what they need to do.

and please tell me why we have to make it about exercise? why can't it be a

game? why can't we pretend?

I guess there will always be people who are critical and see the " plots " and

unfairness and the dark side of things.

personally I choose to see the giggles and laughter - I choose to Lighten Up!

Debra Boardley, PhD, RD

Department of Public Health

University of Toledo

>

> Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to get a

person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and keep

thinking of new tricks?

> How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one time

thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just take

the kid on a nature walk

> for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than running

around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why didn't

they do a commercial on

> a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store, washing

the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

>

>

> Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

>

>

>

>

> Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> The NATURAL dietitian

> Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

>

> jpress50@...

>

>

i

pre

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean. I could hide my own Easter eggs and still not find them.

W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT

Long Term Care Consulting

Montana State Hospital

Montana Developmental Center

Certified LEAP Therapist

Owner, InfoSites

www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net/>

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com/>

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Boehme,

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:28 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Two things:

One - if I ask my daughter to find my purse somewhere in the house I am NOT

lying. I simply can't remember where I put anything anymore.

Two - My children & I participated in Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy (am I

missing any?) and we all grew up fine.

In humorous regard,

From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:21 PM

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

I admit it - I am evil - I actually let my kids believe that Santa was REAL.

Lets practice those American values.

Let me be free to interpret this as a mom pretends to lose her purse. If you

want to see it that she is lying - you are free to see it that way too.

Debra

> > >

> > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to

> > get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and

> > keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one

> > time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective.

> > Just take the kid on a nature walk

> > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> > running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose.

> > Why didn't they do a commercial on

> > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> > washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > >

> > > jpress50@

> > >

> > >

> >

> > i

> >

> > pre

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

2 words.... I'm Jewish LOL

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

A dietitian, not the food police.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

" Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that

take your breath away. " - Carlin

" People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary

Road)

> To: rd-usa

> From: shelby.martin@...

> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:00:17 -0500

> Subject: Re: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

> Two words: Santa Claus.

>

>

>

>

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Everyone " lightens up " in their own way! I like to laugh a lot too, but I

> > like to be realistic, and I happen to think that " pretend " is not a good way

> > to teach. It's ok to pretend

> > if you let children KNOW you are pretending, but what's the purpose when it

> > comes to exercise? You say " why do we have to make it about exercise " , and I

> > don't understand

> > what you mean. Exercise also means doing things - even raking leaves,

> > planting flowers, playing catch outside, hiking, swimming, walking, playing

> > tag, playing volleyball, tennis, hide and seek , etc.

> > Just moving around - getting a different focus. Kids sit around the

> > computer and TV because the parents are not comfortable sending them outside

> > to play (for safety reasons). The parents should be getting involved

> > in spending time outdoors with the children. Summer activities and winter

> > activities. There are tons of things to do! Kids are losing touch with the

> > outdoors and that's

> > critical because they are our future for the environment. Statistics show

> > that if they are not interested in the environment, then they won't see the

> > merit in protecting the environment.

> >

> > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > The NATURAL dietitian

> > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> >

> > jpress50@...

> >

> >

> > If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

> >

> > Re: Government recommends lying to children

> >

> > why is it teaching the value of exercise? Being fit and controlling weight

> > is much more than taking a nature walk. In fact - just increasing daily

> > activity is valuable in addition to planned physical activity. There is

> > recent research to show that sitting is a risk factor for heart disease even

> > if there is daily exercise. So having kids run around - just for activity is

> > what they need to do.

> >

> > and please tell me why we have to make it about exercise? why can't it be a

> > game? why can't we pretend?

> >

> > I guess there will always be people who are critical and see the " plots "

> > and unfairness and the dark side of things.

> >

> > personally I choose to see the giggles and laughter - I choose to Lighten

> > Up!

> >

> > Debra Boardley, PhD, RD

> > Department of Public Health

> > University of Toledo

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to

> > get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and

> > keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one

> > time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective.

> > Just take the kid on a nature walk

> > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> > running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose.

> > Why didn't they do a commercial on

> > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> > washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > >

> > > jpress50@...

> > >

> > >

> >

> > i

> >

> > pre

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

2 words.... I'm Jewish LOL

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

A dietitian, not the food police.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

" Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that

take your breath away. " - Carlin

" People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary

Road)

> To: rd-usa

> From: shelby.martin@...

> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:00:17 -0500

> Subject: Re: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

> Two words: Santa Claus.

>

>

>

>

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Everyone " lightens up " in their own way! I like to laugh a lot too, but I

> > like to be realistic, and I happen to think that " pretend " is not a good way

> > to teach. It's ok to pretend

> > if you let children KNOW you are pretending, but what's the purpose when it

> > comes to exercise? You say " why do we have to make it about exercise " , and I

> > don't understand

> > what you mean. Exercise also means doing things - even raking leaves,

> > planting flowers, playing catch outside, hiking, swimming, walking, playing

> > tag, playing volleyball, tennis, hide and seek , etc.

> > Just moving around - getting a different focus. Kids sit around the

> > computer and TV because the parents are not comfortable sending them outside

> > to play (for safety reasons). The parents should be getting involved

> > in spending time outdoors with the children. Summer activities and winter

> > activities. There are tons of things to do! Kids are losing touch with the

> > outdoors and that's

> > critical because they are our future for the environment. Statistics show

> > that if they are not interested in the environment, then they won't see the

> > merit in protecting the environment.

> >

> > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > The NATURAL dietitian

> > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> >

> > jpress50@...

> >

> >

> > If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

> >

> > Re: Government recommends lying to children

> >

> > why is it teaching the value of exercise? Being fit and controlling weight

> > is much more than taking a nature walk. In fact - just increasing daily

> > activity is valuable in addition to planned physical activity. There is

> > recent research to show that sitting is a risk factor for heart disease even

> > if there is daily exercise. So having kids run around - just for activity is

> > what they need to do.

> >

> > and please tell me why we have to make it about exercise? why can't it be a

> > game? why can't we pretend?

> >

> > I guess there will always be people who are critical and see the " plots "

> > and unfairness and the dark side of things.

> >

> > personally I choose to see the giggles and laughter - I choose to Lighten

> > Up!

> >

> > Debra Boardley, PhD, RD

> > Department of Public Health

> > University of Toledo

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to

> > get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and

> > keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one

> > time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective.

> > Just take the kid on a nature walk

> > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> > running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose.

> > Why didn't they do a commercial on

> > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> > washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > >

> > > jpress50@...

> > >

> > >

> >

> > i

> >

> > pre

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Diane

I guess I can be personal if you want to

go back and read my posts - you are attributing words to me that I did not say

> > >

> > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to

get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and

keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one

time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just

take the kid on a nature walk

> > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why

didn't they do a commercial on

> > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > >

> > > jpress50@

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Diane

I guess I can be personal if you want to

go back and read my posts - you are attributing words to me that I did not say

> > >

> > > Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to

get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and

keep thinking of new tricks?

> > > How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one

time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just

take the kid on a nature walk

> > > for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why

didn't they do a commercial on

> > > a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> > > The NATURAL dietitian

> > > Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> > > and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> > > Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> > > Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

> > >

> > > jpress50@

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies for Santa,

grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats for the 3 Kings & their

camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake eggs the Easter bunny laid during the

night so our kids can find them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby

tooth the tooth fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids?

Losing a set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down the

stairs instead of watching a TV show.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Jacqui

Pressly

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to get a

person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and keep

thinking of new tricks?

How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one time

thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just take

the kid on a nature walk

for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than running

around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why didn't

they do a commercial on

a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store, washing the

car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

The NATURAL dietitian

Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

jpress50@... <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

Government recommends lying to children

Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was the URL

- I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the stairs and all

over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by her -

just to have the kid to get exercise.

So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay to LIE

to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But, then,

our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corp.

Telecommuting Nationwide

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the

Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

[Guest guest]

So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies for Santa,

grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats for the 3 Kings & their

camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake eggs the Easter bunny laid during the

night so our kids can find them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby

tooth the tooth fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids?

Losing a set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down the

stairs instead of watching a TV show.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Jacqui

Pressly

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to get a

person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and keep

thinking of new tricks?

How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one time

thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just take

the kid on a nature walk

for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than running

around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why didn't

they do a commercial on

a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store, washing the

car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

The NATURAL dietitian

Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

jpress50@... <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

Government recommends lying to children

Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was the URL

- I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the stairs and all

over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by her -

just to have the kid to get exercise.

So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay to LIE

to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But, then,

our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corp.

Telecommuting Nationwide

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the

Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

[Guest guest]

Digna, You must be Catholic:) I celebrate the 12 days of Christmas

with Jan 6th as " Little Christmas " when the wisemen gift the infant

Christ! So sweet of you to leave food for those kings and their

transportation!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:45 PM, " Digna Cassens " <dignacassens@...

> wrote:

> So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies

> for Santa, grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats

> for the 3 Kings & their camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake

> eggs the Easter bunny laid during the night so our kids can find

> them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby tooth the tooth

> fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids? Losing a

> set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down

> the stairs instead of watching a TV show.

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On

> Behalf Of Jacqui Pressly

> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

> Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive

> way to get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several

> times a day, and keep thinking of new tricks?

> How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a

> one time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be

> effective. Just take the kid on a nature walk

> for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on

> purpose. Why didn't they do a commercial on

> a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

>

> Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

>

> Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> The NATURAL dietitian

> Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

>

> jpress50@... <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

>

> If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

>

> Government recommends lying to children

>

> Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was

> the URL

> - I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

>

> So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

> telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the

> stairs and all

> over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by

> her -

> just to have the kid to get exercise.

>

> So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay

> to LIE

> to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But,

> then,

> our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

> contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

>

> Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-

> author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Digna, You must be Catholic:) I celebrate the 12 days of Christmas

with Jan 6th as " Little Christmas " when the wisemen gift the infant

Christ! So sweet of you to leave food for those kings and their

transportation!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:45 PM, " Digna Cassens " <dignacassens@...

> wrote:

> So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies

> for Santa, grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats

> for the 3 Kings & their camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake

> eggs the Easter bunny laid during the night so our kids can find

> them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby tooth the tooth

> fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids? Losing a

> set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down

> the stairs instead of watching a TV show.

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On

> Behalf Of Jacqui Pressly

> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

> Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive

> way to get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several

> times a day, and keep thinking of new tricks?

> How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a

> one time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be

> effective. Just take the kid on a nature walk

> for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on

> purpose. Why didn't they do a commercial on

> a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

>

> Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

>

> Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> The NATURAL dietitian

> Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

>

> jpress50@... <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

>

> If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

>

> Government recommends lying to children

>

> Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was

> the URL

> - I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

>

> So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

> telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the

> stairs and all

> over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by

> her -

> just to have the kid to get exercise.

>

> So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay

> to LIE

> to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But,

> then,

> our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

> contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

>

> Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-

> author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

>

[Guest guest]

No food, no gifts, since they would all stop and eat. My g/father used to even

bring cow and horse pucky from the farm and drop in on the street in front of

our house. Geez! I wonder if that was politically correct?

My cousins always spent the night before Epiphany as children at our house, and

it was such a thrill to receive the “good†gifts. My g;/mother, being a very

devout Catholic, always gave the best on 3 Kings Day. And yes, we were all

raised Catholic, although since then some of us have wandered off somewhat.

J

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Weaver

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:03 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Digna, You must be Catholic:) I celebrate the 12 days of Christmas

with Jan 6th as " Little Christmas " when the wisemen gift the infant

Christ! So sweet of you to leave food for those kings and their

transportation!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:45 PM, " Digna Cassens " <dignacassens@...

<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>

> wrote:

> So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies

> for Santa, grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats

> for the 3 Kings & their camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake

> eggs the Easter bunny laid during the night so our kids can find

> them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby tooth the tooth

> fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids? Losing a

> set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down

> the stairs instead of watching a TV show.

>

> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

> Behalf Of Jacqui Pressly

> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

> Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive

> way to get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several

> times a day, and keep thinking of new tricks?

> How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a

> one time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be

> effective. Just take the kid on a nature walk

> for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on

> purpose. Why didn't they do a commercial on

> a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

>

> Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

>

> Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> The NATURAL dietitian

> Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

>

> jpress50@... <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com> <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

>

> If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

>

> Government recommends lying to children

>

> Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was

> the URL

> - I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

>

> So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

> telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the

> stairs and all

> over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by

> her -

> just to have the kid to get exercise.

>

> So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay

> to LIE

> to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But,

> then,

> our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

> contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

>

> Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-

> author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

>

[Guest guest]

No food, no gifts, since they would all stop and eat. My g/father used to even

bring cow and horse pucky from the farm and drop in on the street in front of

our house. Geez! I wonder if that was politically correct?

My cousins always spent the night before Epiphany as children at our house, and

it was such a thrill to receive the “good†gifts. My g;/mother, being a very

devout Catholic, always gave the best on 3 Kings Day. And yes, we were all

raised Catholic, although since then some of us have wandered off somewhat.

J

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Weaver

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:03 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Digna, You must be Catholic:) I celebrate the 12 days of Christmas

with Jan 6th as " Little Christmas " when the wisemen gift the infant

Christ! So sweet of you to leave food for those kings and their

transportation!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:45 PM, " Digna Cassens " <dignacassens@...

<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>

> wrote:

> So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies

> for Santa, grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats

> for the 3 Kings & their camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake

> eggs the Easter bunny laid during the night so our kids can find

> them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby tooth the tooth

> fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids? Losing a

> set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down

> the stairs instead of watching a TV show.

>

> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

> Behalf Of Jacqui Pressly

> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

> Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive

> way to get a person moving. So are you supposed to do this several

> times a day, and keep thinking of new tricks?

> How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a

> one time thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be

> effective. Just take the kid on a nature walk

> for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than

> running around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on

> purpose. Why didn't they do a commercial on

> a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store,

> washing the car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

>

> Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

>

> Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

> The NATURAL dietitian

> Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

> and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

> Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

> Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

>

> jpress50@... <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com> <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

>

> If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

>

> Government recommends lying to children

>

> Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was

> the URL

> - I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

>

> So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

> telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the

> stairs and all

> over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by

> her -

> just to have the kid to get exercise.

>

> So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay

> to LIE

> to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But,

> then,

> our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

> contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

>

> Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-

> author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Let’s see, “the end justifies the meansâ€. Not necessarily.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna

Cassens

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:46 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Government recommends lying to children

So, when my kids and g/kids were little we put out milk & cookies for Santa,

grass for the reindeers on Dec 24th, and the same treats for the 3 Kings & their

camels on Jan 6th. At Easter we hide fake eggs the Easter bunny laid during the

night so our kids can find them Easter Sunday. Every time a kid loses a baby

tooth the tooth fairy leaves them money. How’s that for lying to our kids?

Losing a set of keys is nothing you guys. It got the kid running up and down the

stairs instead of watching a TV show.

From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

Jacqui Pressly

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:36 AM

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Jan, I do agree with you and feel that trickery is not a positive way to get a

person moving. So are you supposed to do this several times a day, and keep

thinking of new tricks?

How does that teach the value of exercise? The commercial was just a one time

thing, but this has to go on daily in order for it to be effective. Just take

the kid on a nature walk

for heavens sake, and have it be a learning experience rather than running

around the house looking for a purse that's semi-hidden on purpose. Why didn't

they do a commercial on

a family hiking, playing in the park together, walking to the store, washing the

car, etc? Teach the children the values of staying busy!

Everyone else seems to think this is cute, and I'm not sure why.

Jacquelyn A. Pressly, RD, CLT

The NATURAL dietitian

Specializing in Wellness and Prevention, Personal Nutrition Coaching

and Designer Lifestyle Plans to help you get on the health track

Northeast Ohio & Western Pennsylvania

Internet and telecounseling available for distance clients

jpress50@...<mailto:jpress50%40aol.com> <mailto:jpress50%40aol.com>

If you are what you eat, then dietitians are the doctors of the future

Government recommends lying to children

Anybody hear a recent " getmoving.gov " commercial? (I think that was the URL

- I'm in the car, just heard the commercial on the radio.)

So, this commercial, paid for by our government dollars, has a mother

telling her kid to look for her purse, running up and down the stairs and all

over the house to find it, knowing full well her purse was right by her -

just to have the kid to get exercise.

So, in essence, our government advertising is suggesting it's okay to LIE

to kids to get them moving. That's just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. But, then,

our government lies to us all the time, so why would the government

contractors that wrote the commercial think it was inappropriate?

Anybody else have a problem with this? I think I'll be emailing them!

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corp.

Telecommuting Nationwide

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the

Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

[Guest guest]

-

you are totally missing the point.

I wish that open mindedness went in both directions.

I am a scientist. I like data. That said, I like to think that science is a

process we don't have data when something is new. Take LEAP for example. I

have reservations, and want data to support, but I have had several contacts

with Michal Hogan and have much respect for her. I have referred people to her.

One woman was helped so much that she contacted me to thank me for the referral.

This started when a post was made about the advertisement. If we are honest -

lets get the facts. A post was made that the government recommends lying to

children. unlike most of the people who have commented in this thread, I

actually KNOW something about this ad. This is not an audio advertisement - it

is a TV and relies on visuals (the little girl running and jumping). If someone

heard it on the radio, it was not delivered in the manner that it was intended.

Remember the game " Telephone " ? In my opinion, the post did not reflect the

intent.

Kids pretend all the time. I gave my example about hot potato. that is a game

where kids pretend.

you might now like the approach - but you should be able to appreciate that not

everyone would see this a lying. Some people would see this as pretending.

American values must certainly include allowing different opinions and

interpretation. If not, we are meeting the definition of communism - which

includes the definition " a system of social organization in which all social

activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and

self-perpetuating political party "

Debra

[Guest guest]

I think I made it quite clear that I have been talking about the value of

honesty over lying. The discussion about the ad eventually went that direction.

That is the point that I have focused on. I don't care about the ad, but about

the topic of honesty vs. lying to encourage positive behavior. I have repeated

that several times. Now, who's missing the point?

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Owner, InfoSites: Content-rich Website Development

www.elk-hunting-tips.net

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

-

you are totally missing the point.

I wish that open mindedness went in both directions.

I am a scientist. I like data. That said, I like to think that science is a

process we don't have data when something is new. Take LEAP for example. I have

reservations, and want data to support, but I have had several contacts with

Michal Hogan and have much respect for her. I have referred people to her. One

woman was helped so much that she contacted me to thank me for the referral.

This started when a post was made about the advertisement. If we are honest -

lets get the facts. A post was made that the government recommends lying to

children. unlike most of the people who have commented in this thread, I

actually KNOW something about this ad. This is not an audio advertisement - it

is a TV and relies on visuals (the little girl running and jumping). If someone

heard it on the radio, it was not delivered in the manner that it was intended.

Remember the game " Telephone " ? In my opinion, the post did not reflect the

intent.

Kids pretend all the time. I gave my example about hot potato. that is a game

where kids pretend.

you might now like the approach - but you should be able to appreciate that not

everyone would see this a lying. Some people would see this as pretending.

American values must certainly include allowing different opinions and

interpretation. If not, we are meeting the definition of communism - which

includes the definition " a system of social organization in which all social

activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and

self-perpetuating political party "

Debra

[Guest guest]

Thanks , now I understand.

I continued to discuss the get moving ad - which is related to nutrition and is

within my scope of interest and expertise.

but now you state that you changed the topic to a discussion about the value of

honesty.

although a supporter of that value, I am not a ethicist, sociologist, etc and so

that discussion appears to be outside my scope as a nutrition expert.

Perhaps in the future when you change the discussion, you could change the

subject line so that we could then follow the change.

thank you for pointing out that this topic has been changed and is no longer of

interest to me. Deleting will be easier now

Debra

>

> I think I made it quite clear that I have been talking about the value of

honesty over lying. The discussion about the ad eventually went that direction.

That is the point that I have focused on. I don't care about the ad, but about

the topic of honesty vs. lying to encourage positive behavior. I have repeated

that several times. Now, who's missing the point?

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN

> Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> Certified LEAP Therapist

> Owner, InfoSites: Content-rich Website Development

> www.elk-hunting-tips.net

> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com

>

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38 AM

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

>

>

> -

> you are totally missing the point.

>

> I wish that open mindedness went in both directions.

>

> I am a scientist. I like data. That said, I like to think that science is a

process we don't have data when something is new. Take LEAP for example. I have

reservations, and want data to support, but I have had several contacts with

Michal Hogan and have much respect for her. I have referred people to her. One

woman was helped so much that she contacted me to thank me for the referral.

>

> This started when a post was made about the advertisement. If we are honest -

lets get the facts. A post was made that the government recommends lying to

children. unlike most of the people who have commented in this thread, I

actually KNOW something about this ad. This is not an audio advertisement - it

is a TV and relies on visuals (the little girl running and jumping). If someone

heard it on the radio, it was not delivered in the manner that it was intended.

Remember the game " Telephone " ? In my opinion, the post did not reflect the

intent.

>

> Kids pretend all the time. I gave my example about hot potato. that is a game

where kids pretend.

>

> you might now like the approach - but you should be able to appreciate that

not everyone would see this a lying. Some people would see this as pretending.

>

> American values must certainly include allowing different opinions and

interpretation. If not, we are meeting the definition of communism - which

includes the definition " a system of social organization in which all social

activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and

self-perpetuating political party "

>

> Debra

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, ma'am. I do change the topic pretty often. On another note, I often get the

identity of those commenting mixed up in the course of conversation. I forget

which of you invisible ladies said what! It's easier for you all to keep my

comments identified with me. There aren't many men on the list!

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Owner, InfoSites: Content-rich Website Development

www.elk-hunting-tips.net

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:59 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Thanks , now I understand.

I continued to discuss the get moving ad - which is related to nutrition and is

within my scope of interest and expertise.

but now you state that you changed the topic to a discussion about the value of

honesty.

although a supporter of that value, I am not a ethicist, sociologist, etc and so

that discussion appears to be outside my scope as a nutrition expert.

Perhaps in the future when you change the discussion, you could change the

subject line so that we could then follow the change.

thank you for pointing out that this topic has been changed and is no longer of

interest to me. Deleting will be easier now

Debra

>

> I think I made it quite clear that I have been talking about the value of

honesty over lying. The discussion about the ad eventually went that direction.

That is the point that I have focused on. I don't care about the ad, but about

the topic of honesty vs. lying to encourage positive behavior. I have repeated

that several times. Now, who's missing the point?

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN

> Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> Certified LEAP Therapist

> Owner, InfoSites: Content-rich Website Development

> www.elk-hunting-tips.net

> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com

>

>

> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38 AM

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

>

>

> -

> you are totally missing the point.

>

> I wish that open mindedness went in both directions.

>

> I am a scientist. I like data. That said, I like to think that science is a

process we don't have data when something is new. Take LEAP for example. I have

reservations, and want data to support, but I have had several contacts with

Michal Hogan and have much respect for her. I have referred people to her. One

woman was helped so much that she contacted me to thank me for the referral.

>

> This started when a post was made about the advertisement. If we are honest -

lets get the facts. A post was made that the government recommends lying to

children. unlike most of the people who have commented in this thread, I

actually KNOW something about this ad. This is not an audio advertisement - it

is a TV and relies on visuals (the little girl running and jumping). If someone

heard it on the radio, it was not delivered in the manner that it was intended.

Remember the game " Telephone " ? In my opinion, the post did not reflect the

intent.

>

> Kids pretend all the time. I gave my example about hot potato. that is a game

where kids pretend.

>

> you might now like the approach - but you should be able to appreciate that

not everyone would see this a lying. Some people would see this as pretending.

>

> American values must certainly include allowing different opinions and

interpretation. If not, we are meeting the definition of communism - which

includes the definition " a system of social organization in which all social

activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and

self-perpetuating political party "

>

> Debra

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, ma'am. I do change the topic pretty often. On another note, I often get the

identity of those commenting mixed up in the course of conversation. I forget

which of you invisible ladies said what! It's easier for you all to keep my

comments identified with me. There aren't many men on the list!

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

Certified LEAP Therapist

Owner, InfoSites: Content-rich Website Development

www.elk-hunting-tips.net

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:59 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

Thanks , now I understand.

I continued to discuss the get moving ad - which is related to nutrition and is

within my scope of interest and expertise.

but now you state that you changed the topic to a discussion about the value of

honesty.

although a supporter of that value, I am not a ethicist, sociologist, etc and so

that discussion appears to be outside my scope as a nutrition expert.

Perhaps in the future when you change the discussion, you could change the

subject line so that we could then follow the change.

thank you for pointing out that this topic has been changed and is no longer of

interest to me. Deleting will be easier now

Debra

>

> I think I made it quite clear that I have been talking about the value of

honesty over lying. The discussion about the ad eventually went that direction.

That is the point that I have focused on. I don't care about the ad, but about

the topic of honesty vs. lying to encourage positive behavior. I have repeated

that several times. Now, who's missing the point?

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN

> Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> Certified LEAP Therapist

> Owner, InfoSites: Content-rich Website Development

> www.elk-hunting-tips.net

> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com

>

>

> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

utnutritionprof

> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38 AM

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Government recommends lying to children

>

>

>

> -

> you are totally missing the point.

>

> I wish that open mindedness went in both directions.

>

> I am a scientist. I like data. That said, I like to think that science is a

process we don't have data when something is new. Take LEAP for example. I have

reservations, and want data to support, but I have had several contacts with

Michal Hogan and have much respect for her. I have referred people to her. One

woman was helped so much that she contacted me to thank me for the referral.

>

> This started when a post was made about the advertisement. If we are honest -

lets get the facts. A post was made that the government recommends lying to

children. unlike most of the people who have commented in this thread, I

actually KNOW something about this ad. This is not an audio advertisement - it

is a TV and relies on visuals (the little girl running and jumping). If someone

heard it on the radio, it was not delivered in the manner that it was intended.

Remember the game " Telephone " ? In my opinion, the post did not reflect the

intent.

>

> Kids pretend all the time. I gave my example about hot potato. that is a game

where kids pretend.

>

> you might now like the approach - but you should be able to appreciate that

not everyone would see this a lying. Some people would see this as pretending.

>

> American values must certainly include allowing different opinions and

interpretation. If not, we are meeting the definition of communism - which

includes the definition " a system of social organization in which all social

activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and

self-perpetuating political party "

>

> Debra

>

>

>

>