Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 > AF arrived bright and early at my house this morning, on what would > have been CD 33. {{{{{{Kate}}}}}} I'm so sorry. I was sure you were pregnant. Evap lines are not common. > Question: the IUI was done on CD 16 (after the positive OPK). Does > AF's arrival on 33 mean I didn't actually ovulate until CD 20? This is possible, but the simplest explanation that fits the facts is that your luteal phase was 17 days long because you were pregnant but the implantation was not successful. This has happened to me a couple of times. I'd get a positive HPT one day and the next it would turn negative. The period would be delayed by a day or two. The average luteal phase is 14 days long, but anything from 11 to 16 days is possible. A nonpregnant woman only varies by a day, month to month. For instance, mine is usually 14 days long, but sometimes is 13 days long. Never 12, and never 15. Another possibility is that menstruation was delayed because of progesterone supplementation. Did you take any this month? Whenever I use it, I will not get my period until a day or two after I stop the suppositories. Now that I am taking it, it adds a few days onto my cycle. How certain were you that you were ovulating on CD 16? Did you take your temperature? Did you have US monitoring and bloodwork from the doc? You might have ovulated on CD 20 (in which case the IUI was way too early [happened to me once]). If this is the case, you need to talk to your doctor's office about ways to time the IUI better. There are several possibilities. If you are unsure about how to use an OPK, there are some dandy FAQs listed in the `TTC' folder of our bookmarks section, including one about OPKs. > I've > been understanding that if not pg, a new cycle starts 14 days after > ovulation, or is that not accurate? Or can other things delay a new > cycle, longer than 14 days past ovulation? Please see above. >I'd never paid much > attention to the science of fertility and my cycle, until these past > few months. And every day I seem to learn something new! Have you tried Fertility Friend yet? Those folks will give you a free trial membership and hold your hand through charting. Their regular `VIP' service costs only $10 per month. Here is my chart, as an example: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fb82/ Good luck. Enjoy those white-choclate covered Cheetos as you gather strength for the next cycle. I know what an ugly, unwelcome guest AF can be. Cheetos are The Answer. Beth SU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need > progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, > considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. > During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep > menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and > start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. Beth, I agree with you that I may need supplements to support my luteal phase. Hope my Doc will agree and I plan to show her all of my charts at my next appt. Even though my postcoital test and prog. test results are considered normal, I think I still need supplements to " rev up " my engine because my luteal phase and cycles seem to vary too widely. Thanks for sharing your insights. Take care. Rita TTC#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need > progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, > considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. > During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep > menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and > start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. Beth, I agree with you that I may need supplements to support my luteal phase. Hope my Doc will agree and I plan to show her all of my charts at my next appt. Even though my postcoital test and prog. test results are considered normal, I think I still need supplements to " rev up " my engine because my luteal phase and cycles seem to vary too widely. Thanks for sharing your insights. Take care. Rita TTC#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > My Luteal phase seems to vary between 11 and 14 days for the last 4 cycles, but 13 days are the most common. My cycles also vary from 28 to 34 days. Do you think they are irregular? I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. 28-34 days is also a little irregular. I always heard that if your cycle length varies by more than 5 days, you are officially irregular. Even so, a highly variable follicular (preovulatory) phase is a lot better than a highly variable luteal phase. For reference, my cycle varies between 31 and 34 days, but is not technically irregular. Since you have been charting for four months, you have good documentation to show your doctor. Clomid might be all you need to " rev " up the engine and have a good luteal phase. Glad you collected these clues to show your doc. And I hope that you're pg this month! Taking an Answer at night at 13 dpo is almost begging for a false negative! Take care, Beth SU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > My Luteal phase seems to vary between 11 and 14 days for the last 4 cycles, but 13 days are the most common. My cycles also vary from 28 to 34 days. Do you think they are irregular? I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. 28-34 days is also a little irregular. I always heard that if your cycle length varies by more than 5 days, you are officially irregular. Even so, a highly variable follicular (preovulatory) phase is a lot better than a highly variable luteal phase. For reference, my cycle varies between 31 and 34 days, but is not technically irregular. Since you have been charting for four months, you have good documentation to show your doctor. Clomid might be all you need to " rev " up the engine and have a good luteal phase. Glad you collected these clues to show your doc. And I hope that you're pg this month! Taking an Answer at night at 13 dpo is almost begging for a false negative! Take care, Beth SU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > My Luteal phase seems to vary between 11 and 14 days for the last 4 cycles, but 13 days are the most common. My cycles also vary from 28 to 34 days. Do you think they are irregular? I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. 28-34 days is also a little irregular. I always heard that if your cycle length varies by more than 5 days, you are officially irregular. Even so, a highly variable follicular (preovulatory) phase is a lot better than a highly variable luteal phase. For reference, my cycle varies between 31 and 34 days, but is not technically irregular. Since you have been charting for four months, you have good documentation to show your doctor. Clomid might be all you need to " rev " up the engine and have a good luteal phase. Glad you collected these clues to show your doc. And I hope that you're pg this month! Taking an Answer at night at 13 dpo is almost begging for a false negative! Take care, Beth SU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. > Beth, > > I agree with you that I may need supplements to support my luteal phase. > Hope my Doc will agree and I plan to show her all of my charts at my next > appt. > > Even though my postcoital test and prog. test results are considered > normal, I think I still need supplements to " rev up " my engine because my > luteal phase and cycles seem to vary too widely. > > Thanks for sharing your insights. > > Take care. > > Rita > TTC#1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. > Beth, > > I agree with you that I may need supplements to support my luteal phase. > Hope my Doc will agree and I plan to show her all of my charts at my next > appt. > > Even though my postcoital test and prog. test results are considered > normal, I think I still need supplements to " rev up " my engine because my > luteal phase and cycles seem to vary too widely. > > Thanks for sharing your insights. > > Take care. > > Rita > TTC#1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 I think that your luteal phase is too variable. Maybe you need progesterone support. 11 days is " doable " but kind of short, considering that implantation can take 10-11 days to complete. During that time, a baby needs the luteal support to keep menstruation from happening until it can finish implantation and start producing its own hormone to prevent menstruation. > Beth, > > I agree with you that I may need supplements to support my luteal phase. > Hope my Doc will agree and I plan to show her all of my charts at my next > appt. > > Even though my postcoital test and prog. test results are considered > normal, I think I still need supplements to " rev up " my engine because my > luteal phase and cycles seem to vary too widely. > > Thanks for sharing your insights. > > Take care. > > Rita > TTC#1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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