Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 yes my husband had his pilots liscense and also a degree in aerodynamic engineneering. Shirley(michigan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 yes my husband had his pilots liscense and also a degree in aerodynamic engineneering. Shirley(michigan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 yes my husband had his pilots liscense and also a degree in aerodynamic engineneering. Shirley(michigan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Neither me nor my parents have worked around airplanes A question for all PLSers Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of planes. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Neither me nor my parents have worked around airplanes A question for all PLSers Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of planes. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Neither me nor my parents have worked around airplanes A question for all PLSers Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of planes. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 i was dx with als on may 29. I worked at jfk from 1976 to 1980 for pan am in their communications . i would be very interested if there is a tie in . also i found a als group on msn called als and the airforce . They are looking for people who were stationed at raf alconbury in england . I am still waiting to hear from them Again i found this interesting . --- lldesigninfo@... wrote: > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to > getting PLS? I read > about an airport that was shut down because so many > of the workers developed > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the > details from the story. > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My > father worked for Pan > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic > fixing the body of > planes. > Liz > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Dear Commander, I am sorry about your diagnosis. Were you told you had PLS before this? I am also interested to see how many respond to the airplane theory. I believe there is a common thread to something environmental. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Liz, No not around airplanes but my father had his own company that had heavy equipment and I was around all of the fuel, grease, etc. Jane Anne King A question for all PLSers Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of planes. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Liz & Commander, I too believe some of our symptoms are due to environmential surrounding. Look at J. Fox four of his movie crew members have Parkinson when he was in Canada. I worked in a offices that had asbestos ceiling panels early in 1987 and then 1991 I found out the floor tile was that old asbestos. I ask my neurologist about it but he couldn't say it was or wasn't. ...........Flora/Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Liz & Commander, I too believe some of our symptoms are due to environmential surrounding. Look at J. Fox four of his movie crew members have Parkinson when he was in Canada. I worked in a offices that had asbestos ceiling panels early in 1987 and then 1991 I found out the floor tile was that old asbestos. I ask my neurologist about it but he couldn't say it was or wasn't. ...........Flora/Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 I was told it was pls with possible borderline als . i beleive it is called upper motor nuteron dominant als. My progness is very good i am told . I guess now i have a millon questions of how i got it . I also found out a equity trader on my trading floor has had als since dec 2000 and now is in a wheelchair. My question is what chances of 2 people in the same office building in nyc having this disease . if i was feeling lucky maybe i should play lotto . pls let me know if u have any luck in this theory. regards to your father tom --- lldesigninfo@... wrote: > Dear Commander, > I am sorry about your diagnosis. Were you told you > had PLS before this? I > am also interested to see how many respond to the > airplane theory. I believe > there is a common thread to something environmental. > Liz > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 I got my PLS dx (replacing MS) primarily due to the fact that my MRI's (8) show no abnormalities. I do have pretty severe imbalance, leg weakness, swallowing and talking problems. But I have never been around airplanes, airports, auto repair garages nor any polluted environments (knowingly). Vaughn Hickman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 I got my PLS dx (replacing MS) primarily due to the fact that my MRI's (8) show no abnormalities. I do have pretty severe imbalance, leg weakness, swallowing and talking problems. But I have never been around airplanes, airports, auto repair garages nor any polluted environments (knowingly). Vaughn Hickman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Liz: My Dad was in the forces but, to my knowledge, didn't work on or around airplanes, I'll have to check with him on that though to make sure. He did however do alot of mechanical work on cars, etc. while I was growing up, in fact this was almost a constant around our home between him and my brothers...don't know if there could be any connection there. Take care. Jen > >Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS >To: <PLS-FRIENDS > >Subject: Re: A question for all PLSers >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:35:25 -0400 > >Liz, > > No not around airplanes but my father had his own company that had >heavy equipment and I was around all of the fuel, grease, etc. > > Jane Anne King > A question for all PLSers > > > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I >read > about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers >developed > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the >story. > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of > planes. > Liz > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Liz: My Dad was in the forces but, to my knowledge, didn't work on or around airplanes, I'll have to check with him on that though to make sure. He did however do alot of mechanical work on cars, etc. while I was growing up, in fact this was almost a constant around our home between him and my brothers...don't know if there could be any connection there. Take care. Jen > >Reply-To: PLS-FRIENDS >To: <PLS-FRIENDS > >Subject: Re: A question for all PLSers >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:35:25 -0400 > >Liz, > > No not around airplanes but my father had his own company that had >heavy equipment and I was around all of the fuel, grease, etc. > > Jane Anne King > A question for all PLSers > > > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I >read > about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers >developed > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the >story. > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of > planes. > Liz > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Jen, While working at Pan Am as a metal mechanic on planes, my father also did body work on cars at home as a side job. This was also a constant in my house my whole childhood. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Jen, While working at Pan Am as a metal mechanic on planes, my father also did body work on cars at home as a side job. This was also a constant in my house my whole childhood. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Liz, I never worked around airplanes. Although it is conceivable that environmental factors cause (or contribute to) PLS and ALS, no such causes have been found to date. And people have tried--at least for ALS. Currently, scientists are examining why US servicemen and women who served in Operation Desert Storm have a significantly higher incidence than normal of ALS. Also, why service men and women from other countries who served in the same military action, and even in the same geographic areas, do not have a high incidence of ALS. (Note: those foreigners weren't given the shots that our service mena and women were given prior to going to the Middle East.) Other studies have been done in the past--why several members of 1 national football team, who all played together, developed ALS; why geographic pockets of ALS cases exist. (I vaguely remember an article about a higher than normal incidence of ALS among Vermont diary farmers.) The options for these strange occurances are: 1) statistical flukes, 2) either chemical or biological causes, or 3) a genetic condition that predisposes one to ALS (or PLS), but requires exposure to either a chemical or biological agent before the disorder begins A combination of genetic and environmental factors). Attempts to track down causes have so far come up dry. (Yes--I'm fully aware that sometimes studies are done with the actual intent of not finding anything. I've seen it done. I worked as an organizer/lobbyist for an environmental group working on hazardous waste issues in the early 1980's and saw it done in Woburn, MA, Love Canal (Niagara Falls, NY), and Canton, MA) But some of the people working on environmental causes of motor neuron diseases actually want to find an environmental cause. The task is daunting. Try to figure out all of the exposures that people in an affected group have in common. (There will probably be hundreds of them.) Then try to determine which one(s) are the culprits. Mark > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read > about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of > planes. > Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Liz, I never worked around airplanes. Although it is conceivable that environmental factors cause (or contribute to) PLS and ALS, no such causes have been found to date. And people have tried--at least for ALS. Currently, scientists are examining why US servicemen and women who served in Operation Desert Storm have a significantly higher incidence than normal of ALS. Also, why service men and women from other countries who served in the same military action, and even in the same geographic areas, do not have a high incidence of ALS. (Note: those foreigners weren't given the shots that our service mena and women were given prior to going to the Middle East.) Other studies have been done in the past--why several members of 1 national football team, who all played together, developed ALS; why geographic pockets of ALS cases exist. (I vaguely remember an article about a higher than normal incidence of ALS among Vermont diary farmers.) The options for these strange occurances are: 1) statistical flukes, 2) either chemical or biological causes, or 3) a genetic condition that predisposes one to ALS (or PLS), but requires exposure to either a chemical or biological agent before the disorder begins A combination of genetic and environmental factors). Attempts to track down causes have so far come up dry. (Yes--I'm fully aware that sometimes studies are done with the actual intent of not finding anything. I've seen it done. I worked as an organizer/lobbyist for an environmental group working on hazardous waste issues in the early 1980's and saw it done in Woburn, MA, Love Canal (Niagara Falls, NY), and Canton, MA) But some of the people working on environmental causes of motor neuron diseases actually want to find an environmental cause. The task is daunting. Try to figure out all of the exposures that people in an affected group have in common. (There will probably be hundreds of them.) Then try to determine which one(s) are the culprits. Mark > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read > about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of > planes. > Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Yes, I've read about the increased incidence of ALS in Gulf War Vets, too. Recently there was an article (I think in the NY Times) reporting an increased ALS incidence in athletes in general--baseball players, for instance. They suggest a link between physically fit, slender folks and ALS. Dolores Re: A question for all PLSers > Liz, > > I never worked around airplanes. > > Although it is conceivable that environmental factors cause (or > contribute to) PLS and ALS, no such causes have been found to date. > And people have tried--at least for ALS. > > Currently, scientists are examining why US servicemen and women who > served in Operation Desert Storm have a significantly higher incidence > than normal of ALS. Also, why service men and women from other > countries who served in the same military action, and even in the same > geographic areas, do not have a high incidence of ALS. (Note: those > foreigners weren't given the shots that our service mena and women > were given prior to going to the Middle East.) > > Other studies have been done in the past--why several members of 1 > national football team, who all played together, developed ALS; why > geographic pockets of ALS cases exist. (I vaguely remember an article > about a higher than normal incidence of ALS among Vermont diary farmers.) > > The options for these strange occurances are: 1) statistical flukes, > 2) either chemical or biological causes, or 3) a genetic condition > that predisposes one to ALS (or PLS), but requires exposure to either > a chemical or biological agent before the disorder begins A > combination of genetic and environmental factors). > > Attempts to track down causes have so far come up dry. (Yes--I'm > fully aware that sometimes studies are done with the actual intent of > not finding anything. I've seen it done. I worked as an > organizer/lobbyist for an environmental group working on hazardous > waste issues in the early 1980's and saw it done in Woburn, MA, Love > Canal (Niagara Falls, NY), and Canton, MA) > > But some of the people working on environmental causes of motor neuron > diseases actually want to find an environmental cause. > > The task is daunting. Try to figure out all of the exposures that > people in an affected group have in common. (There will probably be > hundreds of them.) Then try to determine which one(s) are the culprits. > > Mark > > > > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I > read > > about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers > developed > > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the > story. > > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan > > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of > > planes. > > Liz > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Yes, I've read about the increased incidence of ALS in Gulf War Vets, too. Recently there was an article (I think in the NY Times) reporting an increased ALS incidence in athletes in general--baseball players, for instance. They suggest a link between physically fit, slender folks and ALS. Dolores Re: A question for all PLSers > Liz, > > I never worked around airplanes. > > Although it is conceivable that environmental factors cause (or > contribute to) PLS and ALS, no such causes have been found to date. > And people have tried--at least for ALS. > > Currently, scientists are examining why US servicemen and women who > served in Operation Desert Storm have a significantly higher incidence > than normal of ALS. Also, why service men and women from other > countries who served in the same military action, and even in the same > geographic areas, do not have a high incidence of ALS. (Note: those > foreigners weren't given the shots that our service mena and women > were given prior to going to the Middle East.) > > Other studies have been done in the past--why several members of 1 > national football team, who all played together, developed ALS; why > geographic pockets of ALS cases exist. (I vaguely remember an article > about a higher than normal incidence of ALS among Vermont diary farmers.) > > The options for these strange occurances are: 1) statistical flukes, > 2) either chemical or biological causes, or 3) a genetic condition > that predisposes one to ALS (or PLS), but requires exposure to either > a chemical or biological agent before the disorder begins A > combination of genetic and environmental factors). > > Attempts to track down causes have so far come up dry. (Yes--I'm > fully aware that sometimes studies are done with the actual intent of > not finding anything. I've seen it done. I worked as an > organizer/lobbyist for an environmental group working on hazardous > waste issues in the early 1980's and saw it done in Woburn, MA, Love > Canal (Niagara Falls, NY), and Canton, MA) > > But some of the people working on environmental causes of motor neuron > diseases actually want to find an environmental cause. > > The task is daunting. Try to figure out all of the exposures that > people in an affected group have in common. (There will probably be > hundreds of them.) Then try to determine which one(s) are the culprits. > > Mark > > > > Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I > read > > about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers > developed > > motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the > story. > > Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan > > American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of > > planes. > > Liz > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Hi! I just thought I would share and if there is a researcher out there I would like them to at least read this. I have been in a decline the past two weeks. I went to have an increase in my pump yesterday and was asked if anything different had happened to me that may have caused this, I couldn't think of anything then. I am very sensitive to all drugs. Last night I stared getting very spastic again and I was having hot flashes (you know ladies the ones you get when you need to jump into the freezer). The pharmacy had change manufactures on my hormone replacements. I started having trouble with hot flashes shortly after the taking this new med.. My son brought me ice packs and I took another Estradiol and about two hours later the spasticity started to decrease. I started falling etc.. after having a hysterectomy in 1997. The PLS progressed very slowly but steadily from that point tell now. After my son and daughter were born I had problems with muscle cramps and weakness in my left foot and right hand. There were other times when I had hormone imbalances and also had PLS symptoms. Couldn't hormone imbalances be caused by environmental factors, illnesses, STRESS etc.. Just something to think about. B. Oregon ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Hi! I just thought I would share and if there is a researcher out there I would like them to at least read this. I have been in a decline the past two weeks. I went to have an increase in my pump yesterday and was asked if anything different had happened to me that may have caused this, I couldn't think of anything then. I am very sensitive to all drugs. Last night I stared getting very spastic again and I was having hot flashes (you know ladies the ones you get when you need to jump into the freezer). The pharmacy had change manufactures on my hormone replacements. I started having trouble with hot flashes shortly after the taking this new med.. My son brought me ice packs and I took another Estradiol and about two hours later the spasticity started to decrease. I started falling etc.. after having a hysterectomy in 1997. The PLS progressed very slowly but steadily from that point tell now. After my son and daughter were born I had problems with muscle cramps and weakness in my left foot and right hand. There were other times when I had hormone imbalances and also had PLS symptoms. Couldn't hormone imbalances be caused by environmental factors, illnesses, STRESS etc.. Just something to think about. B. Oregon ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 Liz, Grissom Air Force Reserve Base is just about 15 miles from here. It was an Air Force Base until it was closed a few years back. I knew several people who worked there and some who still do. As far as I know, none of them have developed any neurological problems, just a few with attitude problems. One in particular has been there at least 20 years and is responsible for one EC-135, a tanker. It is similar to the smaller planes the airlines use, which are still large. I would wonder what other variable was present at the facility where your father worked. If working on planes was a major variable, then there would be an extremely large pool of MND's to work from as the Air Force and airlines have been in operation longer than I have been alive. Mike Gray, Logansport IN At 10:50 PM 6/25/02 -0400, you wrote: >Have any of you ever worke around airplanes prior to getting PLS? I read >about an airport that was shut down because so many of the workers developed >motor neuron disease. I can't remember all of the details from the story. >Have any of you heard of this? Just curious. My father worked for Pan >American Airlines for many years as a metal mechanic fixing the body of >planes. >Liz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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