Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide some clues. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 I am wondering if we should start another topic ie Live Cell Therapy or Human Growth Hormone? I for one am hugely interested in this therapy and how it affects CFS, Hashi, Andrenals etc. As I said I am about to start a course of HGH. Did you take it when you were sick? I have a cold ATM and am due to start on Tues. My Dr said that when taking it I won't need to bump up my thyroid as these hormones will be assisting the thyroid uptake. So I wonder if your Endo was saying the same thing in a different way eg when you stop the HGH then you would need to be taking more hormones for thyroid and adrenals. How much has the HGH affected your quality of life eg energy level etc? From what I have gathered this course (HGH) is rather 'alternative' to mainstream medicine ( I live in Australia). Is it the same in the USA? Thanks Geraldine I had > nothing but sleep problems and was even in a sleep study. I finally > > tried growth hormone injections and that really clears up the > sleep problems > > for me at least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss an email again! > > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it > out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 , I used to have sleep problems also. Have you ever investigated being deficient in magnesium? I found this was a major problem with me and starting supplementing it has been a godsend in the sleep department. I now have no trouble falling asleep or staying asleep. I was used to taking a calcium supplement everyday but did not realize that I had an imbalance between the two. I used to have a very difficult time relaxing enough to go to sleep and then once asleep I would awaken several times during the night, usually at least one of those time resulting in me being awake for a couple of hours during the night. I could never get comfortable, was constantly tossing and turning. I was exhausted, trying to take care of a child with a chronic illness on top of it. I now take approximately 1200 mgs of magnesium a day, in 3 different forms. The type I use at night is called Natural Calm, you mix it in hot water and drink like a tea. Here's a test to see if you're deficient in magenesium, http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/081501.htm. Try it, you might be surprised, I know I was. Linn > > Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide some clues. > > C. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 : Have you had your IGF1 levels checked? (for growth hormone deficiency) -- Re: lack of sleep Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide some clues. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Geraldine: My endo said that GH deficiencies go hand in hand with adrenal problems and thyroid. She later told me, after I was on GH for several years, that most of her GH patients end up needing cortisol and Armour at some point. That is all I know. I have looked for info on this but not found any. She did say it is an HPA axis that involves all 3. What is your starting dose? Yes I did start when I was sick. If you have any types of fever blister then it may get worse initially. When I started GH, I had just started dating the guy I mentioned that I recently broke up with. He had a bump on his lip and I point blank asked him if it was a fever blister (herpes) and he said 'no' it was a little thing he gets from shaving. WELL, I had NEVER had a fever blister before and I had just started the GH and got my first fever blister (from him I realized) and it turned into about 6 of them and I had to go to the doctor. It is possible that was my first break out having gotten it from him but I always thought the GH made it worse. Anyway, now I get a fever blister when I get sick or tired. Never had them ever. That is the only bad reaction I had. I immediately felt better and slept better. Just that horrible herpes break out. One of the reasons I left him is that he is not an honest person -- Re: lack of sleep I am wondering if we should start another topic ie Live Cell Therapy or Human Growth Hormone? I for one am hugely interested in this therapy and how it affects CFS, Hashi, Andrenals etc. As I said I am about to start a course of HGH. Did you take it when you were sick? I have a cold ATM and am due to start on Tues. My Dr said that when taking it I won't need to bump up my thyroid as these hormones will be assisting the thyroid uptake. So I wonder if your Endo was saying the same thing in a different way eg when you stop the HGH then you would need to be taking more hormones for thyroid and adrenals. How much has the HGH affected your quality of life eg energy level etc? From what I have gathered this course (HGH) is rather 'alternative' to mainstream medicine ( I live in Australia). Is it the same in the USA? Thanks Geraldine I had > nothing but sleep problems and was even in a sleep study. I finally > > tried growth hormone injections and that really clears up the > sleep problems > > for me at least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss an email again! > > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it > out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Do they check IGF1 levels by standard bloodwork? " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: : Have you had your IGF1 levels checked? (for growth hormone deficiency) -- Re: lack of sleep Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide some clues. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Do they check IGF1 levels by standard bloodwork? " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: : Have you had your IGF1 levels checked? (for growth hormone deficiency) -- Re: lack of sleep Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide some clues. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 No, they have to draw an extra tube (lavendar rubber stopper) and send it off to a lab that runs Somatomedin C or IGH1. It is not expensive but IGF1 must be requested. The results will come in about 2 weeks later than the rest of the blood work drawn on the same day. -- Re: lack of sleep Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide some clues. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Does anybody have any knowledge of the connection of iodine with sleep/circadian rhythm? Like I mentioned before, I have had severe insomnia for more than 10 years. I have been mega dosing of iodine (50 mgs) and it seems to be helping my insomnia. I wasn't taking it for that so it's sure not a placebo effect. I am able to stay in bed thru the night. In fact, I was able to stay in bed until 9 am this morning. That is a miracle for me. Thanks, Pamela --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Did you have any side effects after taking it or did it just help the sleep problem and that's it.? Bev > > I had nothing but sleep problems and was even in a sleep study. I finally > tried growth hormone injections and that really clears up the sleep problems > for me at least. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I had no side effects other than the herpes outbreak, which may not have been related to the GH but to having been exposed for the first time (oral herpes). It does change your nitrogen balance so you remain more hydrated. -- Re: lack of sleep Did you have any side effects after taking it or did it just help the sleep problem and that's it.? Bev > > I had nothing but sleep problems and was even in a sleep study. I finally > tried growth hormone injections and that really clears up the sleep problems > for me at least. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I had no side effects other than the herpes outbreak, which may not have been related to the GH but to having been exposed for the first time (oral herpes). It does change your nitrogen balance so you remain more hydrated. -- Re: lack of sleep Did you have any side effects after taking it or did it just help the sleep problem and that's it.? Bev > > I had nothing but sleep problems and was even in a sleep study. I finally > tried growth hormone injections and that really clears up the sleep problems > for me at least. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I am shokced to be reporting this, because I alwasy figured there isn't much difference between brands, but I ahd some Melatonin from Swanson's (online) and i had to break open the 3 mg capsule and take only about 1/3 of it. Then wehn I ran out, I got some Nature's Bounty brand melatonin from the local store. For whatever reason, a 3 mg tablet of that seems to do little to nothing.... ~Inga > Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and > short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried > EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, > melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work > for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide > some clues. > > C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I am shokced to be reporting this, because I alwasy figured there isn't much difference between brands, but I ahd some Melatonin from Swanson's (online) and i had to break open the 3 mg capsule and take only about 1/3 of it. Then wehn I ran out, I got some Nature's Bounty brand melatonin from the local store. For whatever reason, a 3 mg tablet of that seems to do little to nothing.... ~Inga > Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and > short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried > EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, > melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work > for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide > some clues. > > C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I take nine mgs of it a night. Re: Re: lack of sleep I am shokced to be reporting this, because I alwasy figured there isn't much difference between brands, but I ahd some Melatonin from Swanson's (online) and i had to break open the 3 mg capsule and take only about 1/3 of it. Then wehn I ran out, I got some Nature's Bounty brand melatonin from the local store. For whatever reason, a 3 mg tablet of that seems to do little to nothing.... ~Inga > Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and > short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried > EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, > melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work > for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide > some clues. > > C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I take nine mgs of it a night. Re: Re: lack of sleep I am shokced to be reporting this, because I alwasy figured there isn't much difference between brands, but I ahd some Melatonin from Swanson's (online) and i had to break open the 3 mg capsule and take only about 1/3 of it. Then wehn I ran out, I got some Nature's Bounty brand melatonin from the local store. For whatever reason, a 3 mg tablet of that seems to do little to nothing.... ~Inga > Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and > short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried > EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, > melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work > for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide > some clues. > > C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I had the same result a few years ago so now I always buy Life Extension melatonin because I know it works. Can't recall which brand(s) didn't work for me though but I found a big difference between brands. Ginger > > > Melatonin? I have tried 3 mgs. 1 mg. and 1/4 mg. Long term and > > short term. Nada. I even double the dose of 3 mgs. I have tried > > EVERYTHING for sleep as I have posted in the past. Drugs, herbs, > > melatonin, you name it. I am tired of trying things that don't work > > for me. I am hoping that the tests that are being run can provide > > some clues. > > > > C. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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