Re: Using progesterone cream while on HC and Armour

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Val – Is it safe to use progesterone cream while on HC

and Armour? I thought Mercola said that if the adrenal

and thyroid were treated first, the progesterone and

other female hormones will fall into place (balance

out) and that it could make one’s condition worse if

they really didn’t need it and was taking it anyway.

--- E Silver wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " danamarie39 "

>

> Hi Dana,

>

> Am jumping in here 'cause I just pulled my saliva

> report to take with to

> GYN, and a number of things you said rang a bell

> with the comments and

> symptom chart that was included with my report from

> Zava of ZRT.

>

>

> I am going to drop down to

> > 27.5 HC this week and see if these headaches go

> away.

>

>

> Headaches from hormonal causes are listed as coming

> from Estrogen

> Dominence/Progesterone Deficency and/or Low

> Androgens (DHEA/Testosterone)

> and/or High Insulin.

>

>

> > return of super HAIR LOSS and it is really

> depressing me.....my hair

> > is dry again too. The only time I felt good was

> when I was at around

> > 25 hc and I felt that the thyroid was finally

> starting to get eaten

> > up.

>

>

> I too have felt better at various HC dosage stages

> when the cells opened up

> and got more thyroid, and have never had a thyroid

> dump. Too bad we can't

> just go straight to our optimum Armour dose and get

> rid of this Hypo

> already!!! But, that would be too hard on the

> adrenals, and they need to be

> fixed first.

>

> ......Has anyone

> > experienced symptoms of too much HC and what

> symptoms did you have?

>

>

> High cortisol (too much HC) symptoms, as listed on

> my report chart, are

>

> 1) High Blood Pressure

> 2) Rapid Heart Beat

> 3) Infertility Problems

> 4) Thinning Skin

> 5) Rapid Aging

> 6) Decreased Muscle Size

> 7) Uterine Fibroids

> 8) Anxiety

> 9) Irritable

> 10) Nervous

> 11) Weight Gain - Waist

> 12) Stress

> 13) Sleep Disturbed

> 14) Bone Loss

> 15) Depressed

> 16) Memory Lapse

> 17) Foggy Thinking

> 18) Night Sweats

> 19) Hot Flashes

>

> Many of these symptoms overlap into other areas (ie,

> Uterine Fibroids are

> also symptomatic of Estrogen Dominance/Progesterone

> Deficiency and/or Low

> Thyroid), so the constellation of symptoms needs to

> be looked at, or

> symptoms that don't overlap as much need to be used

> as guidelines. To me,

> the best guide for too much HC is blood pressure, as

> mine isn't usually high

> nor do I have recognized Insulin problems.

>

>

>

> > I am sure that I am estrogen dominate but, really

> don't want to do

> > the progest. cream and mess up everything there.

> I react strongly to

> > the cream the first few months......

>

> > p.s. I am considering a Hyster. bc of my horrible

> periods....I am

> > sick of the pain and bleeding and cannot imagine

> going thru this for

> > another 10 years.

>

> My doc found a 3 centimeter cyst on my right ovary

> and for

> > some reason that ovary hurts almost all the time,

> esp. during my

> > period....I think I have endo. bigtime

>

>

> All of the above sounds to me like your body is

> screaming Estrogen

> Dominance/Progesterone Deficiency, and I would leave

> my HC and Armour as is

> for now and would start supplementing with bio-id

> Progesterone pronto. If

> the creme can not be tolerated, I would look into

> having a compounding

> pharmacy make me up some time-release tablets.

>

> Just my 2 cents,

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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Val – Is it safe to use progesterone cream while on HC

and Armour? I thought Mercola said that if the adrenal

and thyroid were treated first, the progesterone and

other female hormones will fall into place (balance

out) and that it could make one’s condition worse if

they really didn’t need it and was taking it anyway.

--- E Silver wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " danamarie39 "

>

> Hi Dana,

>

> Am jumping in here 'cause I just pulled my saliva

> report to take with to

> GYN, and a number of things you said rang a bell

> with the comments and

> symptom chart that was included with my report from

> Zava of ZRT.

>

>

> I am going to drop down to

> > 27.5 HC this week and see if these headaches go

> away.

>

>

> Headaches from hormonal causes are listed as coming

> from Estrogen

> Dominence/Progesterone Deficency and/or Low

> Androgens (DHEA/Testosterone)

> and/or High Insulin.

>

>

> > return of super HAIR LOSS and it is really

> depressing me.....my hair

> > is dry again too. The only time I felt good was

> when I was at around

> > 25 hc and I felt that the thyroid was finally

> starting to get eaten

> > up.

>

>

> I too have felt better at various HC dosage stages

> when the cells opened up

> and got more thyroid, and have never had a thyroid

> dump. Too bad we can't

> just go straight to our optimum Armour dose and get

> rid of this Hypo

> already!!! But, that would be too hard on the

> adrenals, and they need to be

> fixed first.

>

> ......Has anyone

> > experienced symptoms of too much HC and what

> symptoms did you have?

>

>

> High cortisol (too much HC) symptoms, as listed on

> my report chart, are

>

> 1) High Blood Pressure

> 2) Rapid Heart Beat

> 3) Infertility Problems

> 4) Thinning Skin

> 5) Rapid Aging

> 6) Decreased Muscle Size

> 7) Uterine Fibroids

> 8) Anxiety

> 9) Irritable

> 10) Nervous

> 11) Weight Gain - Waist

> 12) Stress

> 13) Sleep Disturbed

> 14) Bone Loss

> 15) Depressed

> 16) Memory Lapse

> 17) Foggy Thinking

> 18) Night Sweats

> 19) Hot Flashes

>

> Many of these symptoms overlap into other areas (ie,

> Uterine Fibroids are

> also symptomatic of Estrogen Dominance/Progesterone

> Deficiency and/or Low

> Thyroid), so the constellation of symptoms needs to

> be looked at, or

> symptoms that don't overlap as much need to be used

> as guidelines. To me,

> the best guide for too much HC is blood pressure, as

> mine isn't usually high

> nor do I have recognized Insulin problems.

>

>

>

> > I am sure that I am estrogen dominate but, really

> don't want to do

> > the progest. cream and mess up everything there.

> I react strongly to

> > the cream the first few months......

>

> > p.s. I am considering a Hyster. bc of my horrible

> periods....I am

> > sick of the pain and bleeding and cannot imagine

> going thru this for

> > another 10 years.

>

> My doc found a 3 centimeter cyst on my right ovary

> and for

> > some reason that ovary hurts almost all the time,

> esp. during my

> > period....I think I have endo. bigtime

>

>

> All of the above sounds to me like your body is

> screaming Estrogen

> Dominance/Progesterone Deficiency, and I would leave

> my HC and Armour as is

> for now and would start supplementing with bio-id

> Progesterone pronto. If

> the creme can not be tolerated, I would look into

> having a compounding

> pharmacy make me up some time-release tablets.

>

> Just my 2 cents,

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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Val – Is it safe to use progesterone cream while on HC

and Armour? I thought Mercola said that if the adrenal

and thyroid were treated first, the progesterone and

other female hormones will fall into place (balance

out) and that it could make one’s condition worse if

they really didn’t need it and was taking it anyway.

--- E Silver wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " danamarie39 "

>

> Hi Dana,

>

> Am jumping in here 'cause I just pulled my saliva

> report to take with to

> GYN, and a number of things you said rang a bell

> with the comments and

> symptom chart that was included with my report from

> Zava of ZRT.

>

>

> I am going to drop down to

> > 27.5 HC this week and see if these headaches go

> away.

>

>

> Headaches from hormonal causes are listed as coming

> from Estrogen

> Dominence/Progesterone Deficency and/or Low

> Androgens (DHEA/Testosterone)

> and/or High Insulin.

>

>

> > return of super HAIR LOSS and it is really

> depressing me.....my hair

> > is dry again too. The only time I felt good was

> when I was at around

> > 25 hc and I felt that the thyroid was finally

> starting to get eaten

> > up.

>

>

> I too have felt better at various HC dosage stages

> when the cells opened up

> and got more thyroid, and have never had a thyroid

> dump. Too bad we can't

> just go straight to our optimum Armour dose and get

> rid of this Hypo

> already!!! But, that would be too hard on the

> adrenals, and they need to be

> fixed first.

>

> ......Has anyone

> > experienced symptoms of too much HC and what

> symptoms did you have?

>

>

> High cortisol (too much HC) symptoms, as listed on

> my report chart, are

>

> 1) High Blood Pressure

> 2) Rapid Heart Beat

> 3) Infertility Problems

> 4) Thinning Skin

> 5) Rapid Aging

> 6) Decreased Muscle Size

> 7) Uterine Fibroids

> 8) Anxiety

> 9) Irritable

> 10) Nervous

> 11) Weight Gain - Waist

> 12) Stress

> 13) Sleep Disturbed

> 14) Bone Loss

> 15) Depressed

> 16) Memory Lapse

> 17) Foggy Thinking

> 18) Night Sweats

> 19) Hot Flashes

>

> Many of these symptoms overlap into other areas (ie,

> Uterine Fibroids are

> also symptomatic of Estrogen Dominance/Progesterone

> Deficiency and/or Low

> Thyroid), so the constellation of symptoms needs to

> be looked at, or

> symptoms that don't overlap as much need to be used

> as guidelines. To me,

> the best guide for too much HC is blood pressure, as

> mine isn't usually high

> nor do I have recognized Insulin problems.

>

>

>

> > I am sure that I am estrogen dominate but, really

> don't want to do

> > the progest. cream and mess up everything there.

> I react strongly to

> > the cream the first few months......

>

> > p.s. I am considering a Hyster. bc of my horrible

> periods....I am

> > sick of the pain and bleeding and cannot imagine

> going thru this for

> > another 10 years.

>

> My doc found a 3 centimeter cyst on my right ovary

> and for

> > some reason that ovary hurts almost all the time,

> esp. during my

> > period....I think I have endo. bigtime

>

>

> All of the above sounds to me like your body is

> screaming Estrogen

> Dominance/Progesterone Deficiency, and I would leave

> my HC and Armour as is

> for now and would start supplementing with bio-id

> Progesterone pronto. If

> the creme can not be tolerated, I would look into

> having a compounding

> pharmacy make me up some time-release tablets.

>

> Just my 2 cents,

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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I've been on Armour and HC for a year now, and am now using estriol and

progesterone.

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> Val - Is it safe to use progesterone cream while on HC

> and Armour? I thought Mercola said that if the adrenal

> and thyroid were treated first, the progesterone and

> other female hormones will fall into place (balance

> out) and that it could make one's condition worse if

> they really didn't need it and was taking it anyway.

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I used it for the first year of HC treatment but then found I no longer

needed it.

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I used it for the first year of HC treatment but then found I no longer

needed it.

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I used it for the first year of HC treatment but then found I no longer

needed it.

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[Guest guest]

If you search Mercola's site, you will also see that he says he no

longer treats adrenals, but suggests that you discover the stressors

that are affecting your adrenals & eliminate those.

Ummmm...sure, get rid of your stressors...but what if your stressor is

that you were hypothyroid for years?

I don't know that I'd wait for his approach to work, be it with

adrenals or progesterone.

Warmly,

>

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " danamarie39 "

> >

> > Hi Dana,

> >

> > Am jumping in here 'cause I just pulled my saliva

> > report to take with to

> > GYN, and a number of things you said rang a bell

> > with the comments and

> > symptom chart that was included with my report from

> > Zava of ZRT.

> >

> >

> > I am going to drop down to

> > > 27.5 HC this week and see if these headaches go

> > away.

> >

> >

> > Headaches from hormonal causes are listed as coming

> > from Estrogen

> > Dominence/Progesterone Deficency and/or Low

> > Androgens (DHEA/Testosterone)

> > and/or High Insulin.

> >

> >

> > > return of super HAIR LOSS and it is really

> > depressing me.....my hair

> > > is dry again too. The only time I felt good was

> > when I was at around

> > > 25 hc and I felt that the thyroid was finally

> > starting to get eaten

> > > up.

> >

> >

> > I too have felt better at various HC dosage stages

> > when the cells opened up

> > and got more thyroid, and have never had a thyroid

> > dump. Too bad we can't

> > just go straight to our optimum Armour dose and get

> > rid of this Hypo

> > already!!! But, that would be too hard on the

> > adrenals, and they need to be

> > fixed first.

> >

> > ......Has anyone

> > > experienced symptoms of too much HC and what

> > symptoms did you have?

> >

> >

> > High cortisol (too much HC) symptoms, as listed on

> > my report chart, are

> >

> > 1) High Blood Pressure

> > 2) Rapid Heart Beat

> > 3) Infertility Problems

> > 4) Thinning Skin

> > 5) Rapid Aging

> > 6) Decreased Muscle Size

> > 7) Uterine Fibroids

> > 8) Anxiety

> > 9) Irritable

> > 10) Nervous

> > 11) Weight Gain - Waist

> > 12) Stress

> > 13) Sleep Disturbed

> > 14) Bone Loss

> > 15) Depressed

> > 16) Memory Lapse

> > 17) Foggy Thinking

> > 18) Night Sweats

> > 19) Hot Flashes

> >

> > Many of these symptoms overlap into other areas (ie,

> > Uterine Fibroids are

> > also symptomatic of Estrogen Dominance/Progesterone

> > Deficiency and/or Low

> > Thyroid), so the constellation of symptoms needs to

> > be looked at, or

> > symptoms that don't overlap as much need to be used

> > as guidelines. To me,

> > the best guide for too much HC is blood pressure, as

> > mine isn't usually high

> > nor do I have recognized Insulin problems.

> >

> >

> >

> > > I am sure that I am estrogen dominate but, really

> > don't want to do

> > > the progest. cream and mess up everything there.

> > I react strongly to

> > > the cream the first few months......

> >

> > > p.s. I am considering a Hyster. bc of my horrible

> > periods....I am

> > > sick of the pain and bleeding and cannot imagine

> > going thru this for

> > > another 10 years.

> >

> > My doc found a 3 centimeter cyst on my right ovary

> > and for

> > > some reason that ovary hurts almost all the time,

> > esp. during my

> > > period....I think I have endo. bigtime

> >

> >

> > All of the above sounds to me like your body is

> > screaming Estrogen

> > Dominance/Progesterone Deficiency, and I would leave

> > my HC and Armour as is

> > for now and would start supplementing with bio-id

> > Progesterone pronto. If

> > the creme can not be tolerated, I would look into

> > having a compounding

> > pharmacy make me up some time-release tablets.

> >

> > Just my 2 cents,

> >

> > Liz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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