Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 D. Thank you so very much for your informative post. You are a living breathing example of a person who manages thier own healthcare. There have been other people on this board who got the diagnosis IPF that have continued searching and found that they are dealing with another disease. I was told that I had bronchitis, virus, infection, inflamation, and TB. They then said it was the connective tissue disease affecting my lungs (no mention of PF) and the pulmos turned me back over to the rheumatologist....who told me to go home and pray. Like you, I searched out answers. I did do biopsy and many tests and scans. I finally found a doc who cares if I live or die. I changed rheumatologists also. I am now 10 years out from Biopsy and a death sentence. I am so glad that you are getting proper medical care. You are an inspiration! I pray that your disease can be stablized or brought into remission. Thanks for sharing. It may save a life. Hugs, Joyce D.PULMONARY FIBROSIS/LUPUS 1997 BRONCHIECTASIS 2004 INDIANA 2 COR. 12:10 ....when I am weak, then I am strong. >> I've been on this board for a few months but only posted one other > time when my pulmonologist wanted to put me on steroids. Based on > all I read and the input I received from this board I decided not to > do steroids. I also opted not to do a biopsy since naming whatever I > had wasn't that important to me. > > I had completed all blood work – with no clarification of what > disease we were dealing with. Another second or third round of blood > work then showed ANA antibodies present at 320 (>40 is considered > positive) indicating an autoimmune disease. The next round of blood > testing only 2 months later ANA was up to 640. In addition, I then > tested positive for anti-SCL-70 antigens, apparently specific for > diffuse systemic scleroderma. The difference in this type of > scleroderma is that it vigorously attacks internal organs with > necessarily showing skin involvement. > > At that time, I still refused to accept that diagnosis. I have > absolutely no scleroderma present externally and thought my Dr was > crazy. A visit to a rheumotologist confirmed the diagnosis. Since I > still wasn't ready to accept that diagnosis, I did some research and > found there were 17 scleroderma centers in the US that specialize in > this disease. One is a mere mile from my work location at > Woods University Hosp.. After my arguing with them (they > didn't want to accept me into program because I wasn't recommended > by a Dr) , I finally got an app't in May. Of course they confirmed > what other Drs have been telling me with even more detail. > > Bottom line: I have diffuse systemic scleroderma with pulmonary > fibrosis secondary. I am what they consider an ideal candidate for > pulmonary hypertension since I have a high lung capacity with poor > diffusion (43% last test – next test scheduled for August). My > kidneys and esophagus are also involved; however, I don't really feel > all that poorly. I have started chemo (Cyclophosphamide infusion) and > hope to stop the active inflammation that seems to be pretty > aggressive at the moment based on the last CAT scan. > > I am 60 years old, married with two grown children. Daughter married > with 16 month old twins (boy/girl). Son getting married on Sept 1. > Overall, I consider myself in good health (all things considered) > still working – manager of a commercial testing laboratory that > specializes in pharmaceutical testing. > > I have found the board to be very informative and helpful even though > I don't have the time to post frequently. Does anyone out there have > this same diagnosis. I'd be really interested in exchanging > experiences, etc. Sorry this is so long, I guess that's what happens > when you only post every 4 months. > > Dunn – New Jersey – Diffuse Systemic Scleroderma, Feb 07> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 D., I second what Joyce D. wrote. Thank you for your post. People sharing their stories and journeys here helps so many people and we don't even realize it. We think we're going on and on about ourselves and often apologize for it, yet we have no idea how it affects others. What I got out of your post was that you were not symptomatic and so this testing was vital to searching out what was going on w/ your body. It was suggested to me just 2 weeks ago to have additional bloodwork and I said " ya, ya, I know many people have connective tissue disease or sarcoid or whatever and PF, but I don't have any of those problems/symptoms " . This friend of a friend who is a doctor said, " maybe you just didn't read the book " , which at first I didn't even get. It was her way of saying not all people present w/ the textbook case. She said it's like the person who has a heart attack, but didn't have any chest pain or any of the symptoms. These things happen and if we gather nothing else on this site it's that though we do have a lot of shared symptoms and struggles we all seem to have a different case. That may be the biggest problem w/ PF, there is no textbook. Thanks again for your post. I wish you the best of luck w/ your health and yes, please post more often. Kerry IPF '01 S. IN > > > > I've been on this board for a few months but only posted one other > > time when my pulmonologist wanted to put me on steroids. Based on > > all I read and the input I received from this board I decided not to > > do steroids. I also opted not to do a biopsy since naming whatever I > > had wasn't that important to me. > > > > I had completed all blood work – with no clarification of what > > disease we were dealing with. Another second or third round of blood > > work then showed ANA antibodies present at 320 (>40 is considered > > positive) indicating an autoimmune disease. The next round of blood > > testing only 2 months later ANA was up to 640. In addition, I then > > tested positive for anti-SCL-70 antigens, apparently specific for > > diffuse systemic scleroderma. The difference in this type of > > scleroderma is that it vigorously attacks internal organs with > > necessarily showing skin involvement. > > > > At that time, I still refused to accept that diagnosis. I have > > absolutely no scleroderma present externally and thought my Dr was > > crazy. A visit to a rheumotologist confirmed the diagnosis. Since I > > still wasn't ready to accept that diagnosis, I did some research and > > found there were 17 scleroderma centers in the US that specialize in > > this disease. One is a mere mile from my work location at > > Woods University Hosp.. After my arguing with them (they > > didn't want to accept me into program because I wasn't recommended > > by a Dr) , I finally got an app't in May. Of course they confirmed > > what other Drs have been telling me with even more detail. > > > > Bottom line: I have diffuse systemic scleroderma with pulmonary > > fibrosis secondary. I am what they consider an ideal candidate for > > pulmonary hypertension since I have a high lung capacity with poor > > diffusion (43% last test – next test scheduled for August). My > > kidneys and esophagus are also involved; however, I don't really feel > > all that poorly. I have started chemo (Cyclophosphamide infusion) and > > hope to stop the active inflammation that seems to be pretty > > aggressive at the moment based on the last CAT scan. > > > > I am 60 years old, married with two grown children. Daughter married > > with 16 month old twins (boy/girl). Son getting married on Sept 1. > > Overall, I consider myself in good health (all things considered) > > still working – manager of a commercial testing laboratory that > > specializes in pharmaceutical testing. > > > > I have found the board to be very informative and helpful even though > > I don't have the time to post frequently. Does anyone out there have > > this same diagnosis. I'd be really interested in exchanging > > experiences, etc. Sorry this is so long, I guess that's what happens > > when you only post every 4 months. > > > > Dunn – New Jersey – Diffuse Systemic Scleroderma, Feb 07 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > Hello, new here.. I have joined the group because my husband was just > diagnosed with prostate cancer.. The doctor's office called yesterday > regarding the biopsy. We know nothing about this, and need to learn > fast, I think. > > His age is 69, and his psa was 15.6. No Gleason yet. Appointment to go > in next Tuesday. I have some suggestions that will help to make well-informed decisions. Anecdotes contributed by other patients can be interesting, but should never, ever, be relied upon as authority for one's own decisions. In other words, what helps me might harm you and vice versa. " Find people who are more interested in helping you to learn than teaching you what *they* think you need to know. " -- Young, PCa Mentor Phoenix 5 There is a lot to do. (1) If applicable, I recommend having the biopsy specimens examined by a pathology lab that specializes in prostate cancer (PCa). Everything that is done from here on depends upon the accuracy of the Gleason scoring. Here is a list of such labs: Bostwick Laboratories [800] 214-6628 Dianon Laboratories [800] 328-2666 (select 5 for client services) Jon Epstein (s Hopkins) [410] 955-5043 or [410] 955-2162 Jon Oppenheimer (Tennessee) [800] 881-0470 Lucia (303)724-3470 This is a " second opinion " and should be covered by insurance/Medicare. The cost, last I heard, was about $500. More if further tests, which might be prudent, are ordered. The chosen lab can give instructions on shipment arrangements. In civilized jurisdictions, those specimens are the property of the patient and not the medic, not the lab. Sometimes it is necessary to educate them on that point. (2) The authoritative website of the Prostate Cancer Research Institute (PCRI) at http://prostate-cancer.org/index.html is an excellent beginning. See also http://prostate-cancer.org/education/education.html#newly_diagnosed Some medics who specialize in treatment (tx) of PCa are listed via this portal: http://prostate-cancer.org/resource/find-a-physician.html If a particular medic is not suitable due to distance (but there are men who travel thousands of miles for treatment) or otherwise, there is no harm and much possible gain in simply asking for a referral. There are also men whose primary medic is some distance away, but who receive their routine treatment (tx) near home. (3) I heartily recommend this comprehensive text on PCa: _A Primer on Prostate Cancer_ 2nd ed., subtitled " The Empowered Patient's Guide " by medical oncologist and PCa specialist B. Strum, MD and PCa warrior Donna Pogliano. It is available from the PCRI website and the like, as well as Amazon (30+ five-star reviews), & Noble, and bookstores. A lifesaver, as I very well know. (4) Personal contact with other patients can be very helpful. Local chapters of the international support group Us Too can be found via their website at http://www.ustoo.com/chapter_nearyou.asp Regards, Steve J " Empowerment: taking responsibility for and authority over one's own outcomes based on education and knowledge of the consequences and contingencies involved in one's own decisions. This focus provides the uplifting energy that can sustain in the face of crisis. " --Donna Pogliano, co-author of _A Primer on Prostate Cancer_, subtitled " The Empowered Patient's Guide. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > Hello, new here.. I have joined the group because my husband was just > diagnosed with prostate cancer.. The doctor's office called yesterday > regarding the biopsy. We know nothing about this, and need to learn > fast, I think. > > His age is 69, and his psa was 15.6. No Gleason yet. Appointment to go > in next Tuesday. I have some suggestions that will help to make well-informed decisions. Anecdotes contributed by other patients can be interesting, but should never, ever, be relied upon as authority for one's own decisions. In other words, what helps me might harm you and vice versa. " Find people who are more interested in helping you to learn than teaching you what *they* think you need to know. " -- Young, PCa Mentor Phoenix 5 There is a lot to do. (1) If applicable, I recommend having the biopsy specimens examined by a pathology lab that specializes in prostate cancer (PCa). Everything that is done from here on depends upon the accuracy of the Gleason scoring. Here is a list of such labs: Bostwick Laboratories [800] 214-6628 Dianon Laboratories [800] 328-2666 (select 5 for client services) Jon Epstein (s Hopkins) [410] 955-5043 or [410] 955-2162 Jon Oppenheimer (Tennessee) [800] 881-0470 Lucia (303)724-3470 This is a " second opinion " and should be covered by insurance/Medicare. The cost, last I heard, was about $500. More if further tests, which might be prudent, are ordered. The chosen lab can give instructions on shipment arrangements. In civilized jurisdictions, those specimens are the property of the patient and not the medic, not the lab. Sometimes it is necessary to educate them on that point. (2) The authoritative website of the Prostate Cancer Research Institute (PCRI) at http://prostate-cancer.org/index.html is an excellent beginning. See also http://prostate-cancer.org/education/education.html#newly_diagnosed Some medics who specialize in treatment (tx) of PCa are listed via this portal: http://prostate-cancer.org/resource/find-a-physician.html If a particular medic is not suitable due to distance (but there are men who travel thousands of miles for treatment) or otherwise, there is no harm and much possible gain in simply asking for a referral. There are also men whose primary medic is some distance away, but who receive their routine treatment (tx) near home. (3) I heartily recommend this comprehensive text on PCa: _A Primer on Prostate Cancer_ 2nd ed., subtitled " The Empowered Patient's Guide " by medical oncologist and PCa specialist B. Strum, MD and PCa warrior Donna Pogliano. It is available from the PCRI website and the like, as well as Amazon (30+ five-star reviews), & Noble, and bookstores. A lifesaver, as I very well know. (4) Personal contact with other patients can be very helpful. Local chapters of the international support group Us Too can be found via their website at http://www.ustoo.com/chapter_nearyou.asp Regards, Steve J " Empowerment: taking responsibility for and authority over one's own outcomes based on education and knowledge of the consequences and contingencies involved in one's own decisions. This focus provides the uplifting energy that can sustain in the face of crisis. " --Donna Pogliano, co-author of _A Primer on Prostate Cancer_, subtitled " The Empowered Patient's Guide. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > > Hello, new here.. I have joined the group because my husband was just diagnosed with prostate cancer.. The doctor's office called yesterday regarding the biopsy. We know nothing about this, and need to learn fast, I think. > > His age is 69, and his psa was 15.6. No Gleason yet. Appointment to go in next Tuesday. He has no symptoms, other than a slight backache which probably isn't related.. his back has given trouble for years. > > Terry, many thanks for the email. Lots to read there today. > > Dolores > Hi Dolores, My husband was treated with IMRT treatment. My suggestion to you is just seek out as much information as possible. Look at all your options and choose the one that is best for the both of you. We saw five different specialists and all said my husband needed radiation...that's the only thing they agreed on. We tried to get Proton Beam Radiation. It's only available in certain hospitals, but we felt that was the best option. But when we saw the specialist for Proton Beam he said my husband's lymph nodes had to be radiated as well. We wanted Proton Beam because of the few side effects. I'll be praying for you..it's not an easy time. Best Wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > > Hello, new here.. I have joined the group because my husband was just diagnosed with prostate cancer.. The doctor's office called yesterday regarding the biopsy. We know nothing about this, and need to learn fast, I think. > > His age is 69, and his psa was 15.6. No Gleason yet. Appointment to go in next Tuesday. He has no symptoms, other than a slight backache which probably isn't related.. his back has given trouble for years. > > Terry, many thanks for the email. Lots to read there today. > > Dolores > Hi Dolores, My husband was treated with IMRT treatment. My suggestion to you is just seek out as much information as possible. Look at all your options and choose the one that is best for the both of you. We saw five different specialists and all said my husband needed radiation...that's the only thing they agreed on. We tried to get Proton Beam Radiation. It's only available in certain hospitals, but we felt that was the best option. But when we saw the specialist for Proton Beam he said my husband's lymph nodes had to be radiated as well. We wanted Proton Beam because of the few side effects. I'll be praying for you..it's not an easy time. Best Wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hi Dolores Welcome to the club no one wants to be a part of. I am sorry to hear of your husbands situation. I did want to mention, that you should always get copies of your husbands test results especially the pathologist's biopsy report. Just ask and they will provide it. In addition to Dr. Strums book, I found that Dr. Walsh's Book "Surviving Prostate Cancer" is also excellent" It is well written and in language that a lay person can understand. It is available at and Noble and probably at Amazon.com. I had my biopsy read by Dr Epstein at 's Hopkins it cost under $300 my insurance did not cover it but I thought it was a reasonable price for an expert second opinion. I know it is frustrating that it falls to the patient to determine which procedure to choose but no doctor in my experience will tell you what to choose so self education is the avenue we have all had to follow. Try to keep positive easy to say but hard to do. I wish you both all the best. Harry Subject: New DiagnosisTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:32 AM Hello, new here.. I have joined the group because my husband was just diagnosed with prostate cancer.. The doctor's office called yesterday regarding the biopsy. We know nothing about this, and need to learn fast, I think.His age is 69, and his psa was 15.6. No Gleason yet. Appointment to go in next Tuesday. He has no symptoms, other than a slight backache which probably isn't related.. his back has given trouble for years.Terry, many thanks for the email. Lots to read there today.Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hi Dolores Welcome to the club no one wants to be a part of. I am sorry to hear of your husbands situation. I did want to mention, that you should always get copies of your husbands test results especially the pathologist's biopsy report. Just ask and they will provide it. In addition to Dr. Strums book, I found that Dr. Walsh's Book "Surviving Prostate Cancer" is also excellent" It is well written and in language that a lay person can understand. It is available at and Noble and probably at Amazon.com. I had my biopsy read by Dr Epstein at 's Hopkins it cost under $300 my insurance did not cover it but I thought it was a reasonable price for an expert second opinion. I know it is frustrating that it falls to the patient to determine which procedure to choose but no doctor in my experience will tell you what to choose so self education is the avenue we have all had to follow. Try to keep positive easy to say but hard to do. I wish you both all the best. Harry Subject: New DiagnosisTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:32 AM Hello, new here.. I have joined the group because my husband was just diagnosed with prostate cancer.. The doctor's office called yesterday regarding the biopsy. We know nothing about this, and need to learn fast, I think.His age is 69, and his psa was 15.6. No Gleason yet. Appointment to go in next Tuesday. He has no symptoms, other than a slight backache which probably isn't related.. his back has given trouble for years.Terry, many thanks for the email. Lots to read there today.Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > In addition to Dr. Strums book, I found that Dr. > Walsh's Book " Surviving Prostate Cancer " is also excellent " It > is well written and in language that a lay person can > understand. It is available at and Noble and probably at > Amazon.com. Since we're recommending books here, I'll also mention _Prostate Cancer for Dummies_. In spite of the demeaning title and the fact that many books in this series are pretty bad, I thought this one was actually quite good. Another source of very authoritative information is: http://www.cancer.gov Best of luck. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > In addition to Dr. Strums book, I found that Dr. > Walsh's Book " Surviving Prostate Cancer " is also excellent " It > is well written and in language that a lay person can > understand. It is available at and Noble and probably at > Amazon.com. Since we're recommending books here, I'll also mention _Prostate Cancer for Dummies_. In spite of the demeaning title and the fact that many books in this series are pretty bad, I thought this one was actually quite good. Another source of very authoritative information is: http://www.cancer.gov Best of luck. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 My dad found out today he has prostate cancer. His is staged T3 with a Gleason scale of 4+5=9/10. The report also says grade 5 tumor necrosis and stromal desmoplasia are present in the left base. Most of his biopsy samples were malignant, the only benign section was the right mid. Not sure what we are going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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