I'm back!

[Guest guest]

It's been awhile since I've been on this board. I had gone no-mail during

the summer because I've been trying, in between all kinds of interruptions,

to archive everything on an old hard drive and change out to a new one after

ensuring I had everything I could possibly need. Time just got away from me

and here it is a new year already and time to start anew. Finally, it was

time to set some of these groups I'm on to receive them again and get back

into the swing of things.

I haven't seen some of the current mails so have lost track of what's going

on with the group and don't know who's actively involved in it. Are

and Harry still here?

As for me, man what a roller coaster I've been on. It seems like every few

years the body turns on the medications that have been working well and so

in my case, Actos had been keeping my sugars really well controlled.

Something changed and I don't know what. I kept gaining weight and my sugars

were just not where they should have been. Finally, I got my doc to try me

on Metformin which I have to take three times a day, and even that by itself

was only bringing my fasting down from 165 with no meds, to 135, and

eventually the Metformin kicked in a little and it was down to 125. Then a

few days ago I complained to the doc that the sugars were still high,

fasting 125, 2-hour postprandial 148, and he said " that's not so bad. " I

told him that I thought I had educated him better than that and that my

2-hour should be lower than that! He added Glyburide at the smallest dose to

my regimen taken twice a day.

Thankfully, with that combination, I'm starting to lose weight and my

fastings are 94, two-hour postprandial 128, and this is after only 2 days on

the Glyburide. Hopefully I'll see better sugars over the next week or two.

I've had to get a little more strict with my own eating habits and bring

myself back into line. No more evening snacks of any kind as that might

upset the sugar level, and that's hard to do at times but necessary. But as

always, keeping an eye on the total picture is a learning experience and

watching the numbers tells me how well I'm doing. The body won't lie to me

so I can tell if I'm doing well or blowing it.

Now here's some questions for someone who knows more about these meds than I

do.

Why does Actos cause weight gain? I wasn't having weight gain on it for a

long time and all of a sudden it just " turned " on me, what would cause that?

Just what does Metformin (Glucophage) do, and what does Glyburide do? Are

there things I should watch out for with either of these aside from possibly

really low sugars with the Glyburide?

Well now that I'm done with my novel it's time to sign off. I look forward

to receiving e-mails now from the group and hope I can contribute to someone

else's questions much as people on here have helped me.

Best regards,

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, glad that you aware back on list. I am new since you were on last.

My name is Nan and I live in Michigan. MY husband has been a diabetic for

ten years. He is on Actors, glucaphage also. He is very overweight and

struggles with his blood sugar. Can't get it below 145 on a regular basis. I

was diagnosed last month as pre diabetic. My blood sugar was 111 and the

doctor warned me if I don't watch what I eat I could become a diabetic. so I

went off the candy and cookies I love and watched the contents of sugars

and crabs. I took my sugar the other day and it was down to 97. So that was

much better. I don't want to become a diabetic.

I suggest that you go on the internet to find out about your medicines. Just

type in the medication and it will tell you everything you need to about

that medicine. I have done this and it is very helpful. I wish the best for

you in trying to control your diabetes. Nan

I'm back!

> It's been awhile since I've been on this board. I had gone no-mail during

> the summer because I've been trying, in between all kinds of

> interruptions,

> to archive everything on an old hard drive and change out to a new one

> after

> ensuring I had everything I could possibly need. Time just got away from

> me

> and here it is a new year already and time to start anew. Finally, it was

> time to set some of these groups I'm on to receive them again and get back

> into the swing of things.

>

> I haven't seen some of the current mails so have lost track of what's

> going

> on with the group and don't know who's actively involved in it. Are

> and Harry still here?

>

> As for me, man what a roller coaster I've been on. It seems like every few

> years the body turns on the medications that have been working well and so

> in my case, Actos had been keeping my sugars really well controlled.

> Something changed and I don't know what. I kept gaining weight and my

> sugars

> were just not where they should have been. Finally, I got my doc to try me

> on Metformin which I have to take three times a day, and even that by

> itself

> was only bringing my fasting down from 165 with no meds, to 135, and

> eventually the Metformin kicked in a little and it was down to 125. Then a

> few days ago I complained to the doc that the sugars were still high,

> fasting 125, 2-hour postprandial 148, and he said " that's not so bad. " I

> told him that I thought I had educated him better than that and that my

> 2-hour should be lower than that! He added Glyburide at the smallest dose

> to

> my regimen taken twice a day.

>

> Thankfully, with that combination, I'm starting to lose weight and my

> fastings are 94, two-hour postprandial 128, and this is after only 2 days

> on

> the Glyburide. Hopefully I'll see better sugars over the next week or two.

>

> I've had to get a little more strict with my own eating habits and bring

> myself back into line. No more evening snacks of any kind as that might

> upset the sugar level, and that's hard to do at times but necessary. But

> as

> always, keeping an eye on the total picture is a learning experience and

> watching the numbers tells me how well I'm doing. The body won't lie to me

> so I can tell if I'm doing well or blowing it.

>

> Now here's some questions for someone who knows more about these meds than

> I

> do.

>

> Why does Actos cause weight gain? I wasn't having weight gain on it for a

> long time and all of a sudden it just " turned " on me, what would cause

> that?

>

> Just what does Metformin (Glucophage) do, and what does Glyburide do? Are

> there things I should watch out for with either of these aside from

> possibly

> really low sugars with the Glyburide?

>

> Well now that I'm done with my novel it's time to sign off. I look forward

> to receiving e-mails now from the group and hope I can contribute to

> someone

> else's questions much as people on here have helped me.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, glad that you aware back on list. I am new since you were on last.

My name is Nan and I live in Michigan. MY husband has been a diabetic for

ten years. He is on Actors, glucaphage also. He is very overweight and

struggles with his blood sugar. Can't get it below 145 on a regular basis. I

was diagnosed last month as pre diabetic. My blood sugar was 111 and the

doctor warned me if I don't watch what I eat I could become a diabetic. so I

went off the candy and cookies I love and watched the contents of sugars

and crabs. I took my sugar the other day and it was down to 97. So that was

much better. I don't want to become a diabetic.

I suggest that you go on the internet to find out about your medicines. Just

type in the medication and it will tell you everything you need to about

that medicine. I have done this and it is very helpful. I wish the best for

you in trying to control your diabetes. Nan

I'm back!

> It's been awhile since I've been on this board. I had gone no-mail during

> the summer because I've been trying, in between all kinds of

> interruptions,

> to archive everything on an old hard drive and change out to a new one

> after

> ensuring I had everything I could possibly need. Time just got away from

> me

> and here it is a new year already and time to start anew. Finally, it was

> time to set some of these groups I'm on to receive them again and get back

> into the swing of things.

>

> I haven't seen some of the current mails so have lost track of what's

> going

> on with the group and don't know who's actively involved in it. Are

> and Harry still here?

>

> As for me, man what a roller coaster I've been on. It seems like every few

> years the body turns on the medications that have been working well and so

> in my case, Actos had been keeping my sugars really well controlled.

> Something changed and I don't know what. I kept gaining weight and my

> sugars

> were just not where they should have been. Finally, I got my doc to try me

> on Metformin which I have to take three times a day, and even that by

> itself

> was only bringing my fasting down from 165 with no meds, to 135, and

> eventually the Metformin kicked in a little and it was down to 125. Then a

> few days ago I complained to the doc that the sugars were still high,

> fasting 125, 2-hour postprandial 148, and he said " that's not so bad. " I

> told him that I thought I had educated him better than that and that my

> 2-hour should be lower than that! He added Glyburide at the smallest dose

> to

> my regimen taken twice a day.

>

> Thankfully, with that combination, I'm starting to lose weight and my

> fastings are 94, two-hour postprandial 128, and this is after only 2 days

> on

> the Glyburide. Hopefully I'll see better sugars over the next week or two.

>

> I've had to get a little more strict with my own eating habits and bring

> myself back into line. No more evening snacks of any kind as that might

> upset the sugar level, and that's hard to do at times but necessary. But

> as

> always, keeping an eye on the total picture is a learning experience and

> watching the numbers tells me how well I'm doing. The body won't lie to me

> so I can tell if I'm doing well or blowing it.

>

> Now here's some questions for someone who knows more about these meds than

> I

> do.

>

> Why does Actos cause weight gain? I wasn't having weight gain on it for a

> long time and all of a sudden it just " turned " on me, what would cause

> that?

>

> Just what does Metformin (Glucophage) do, and what does Glyburide do? Are

> there things I should watch out for with either of these aside from

> possibly

> really low sugars with the Glyburide?

>

> Well now that I'm done with my novel it's time to sign off. I look forward

> to receiving e-mails now from the group and hope I can contribute to

> someone

> else's questions much as people on here have helped me.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, glad that you aware back on list. I am new since you were on last.

My name is Nan and I live in Michigan. MY husband has been a diabetic for

ten years. He is on Actors, glucaphage also. He is very overweight and

struggles with his blood sugar. Can't get it below 145 on a regular basis. I

was diagnosed last month as pre diabetic. My blood sugar was 111 and the

doctor warned me if I don't watch what I eat I could become a diabetic. so I

went off the candy and cookies I love and watched the contents of sugars

and crabs. I took my sugar the other day and it was down to 97. So that was

much better. I don't want to become a diabetic.

I suggest that you go on the internet to find out about your medicines. Just

type in the medication and it will tell you everything you need to about

that medicine. I have done this and it is very helpful. I wish the best for

you in trying to control your diabetes. Nan

I'm back!

> It's been awhile since I've been on this board. I had gone no-mail during

> the summer because I've been trying, in between all kinds of

> interruptions,

> to archive everything on an old hard drive and change out to a new one

> after

> ensuring I had everything I could possibly need. Time just got away from

> me

> and here it is a new year already and time to start anew. Finally, it was

> time to set some of these groups I'm on to receive them again and get back

> into the swing of things.

>

> I haven't seen some of the current mails so have lost track of what's

> going

> on with the group and don't know who's actively involved in it. Are

> and Harry still here?

>

> As for me, man what a roller coaster I've been on. It seems like every few

> years the body turns on the medications that have been working well and so

> in my case, Actos had been keeping my sugars really well controlled.

> Something changed and I don't know what. I kept gaining weight and my

> sugars

> were just not where they should have been. Finally, I got my doc to try me

> on Metformin which I have to take three times a day, and even that by

> itself

> was only bringing my fasting down from 165 with no meds, to 135, and

> eventually the Metformin kicked in a little and it was down to 125. Then a

> few days ago I complained to the doc that the sugars were still high,

> fasting 125, 2-hour postprandial 148, and he said " that's not so bad. " I

> told him that I thought I had educated him better than that and that my

> 2-hour should be lower than that! He added Glyburide at the smallest dose

> to

> my regimen taken twice a day.

>

> Thankfully, with that combination, I'm starting to lose weight and my

> fastings are 94, two-hour postprandial 128, and this is after only 2 days

> on

> the Glyburide. Hopefully I'll see better sugars over the next week or two.

>

> I've had to get a little more strict with my own eating habits and bring

> myself back into line. No more evening snacks of any kind as that might

> upset the sugar level, and that's hard to do at times but necessary. But

> as

> always, keeping an eye on the total picture is a learning experience and

> watching the numbers tells me how well I'm doing. The body won't lie to me

> so I can tell if I'm doing well or blowing it.

>

> Now here's some questions for someone who knows more about these meds than

> I

> do.

>

> Why does Actos cause weight gain? I wasn't having weight gain on it for a

> long time and all of a sudden it just " turned " on me, what would cause

> that?

>

> Just what does Metformin (Glucophage) do, and what does Glyburide do? Are

> there things I should watch out for with either of these aside from

> possibly

> really low sugars with the Glyburide?

>

> Well now that I'm done with my novel it's time to sign off. I look forward

> to receiving e-mails now from the group and hope I can contribute to

> someone

> else's questions much as people on here have helped me.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Glad to see you back, Bill. I wondered what happened to you! Some meds

just make people gain weight. I don't know why, that is just an adverse

affect some meds have-like some can make you sleepy etc... The combination

of the 2 meds you are taking is doing 2 things. 1. Making your cells less

resistant to insulin and 2. Making your pancreas put out more insulin... It

sounds like a good blend, but as you said, the diet is so important. The

holidays were a killer for probably most of us!

I'm back!

It's been awhile since I've been on this board. I had gone no-mail during

the summer because I've been trying, in between all kinds of interruptions,

to archive everything on an old hard drive and change out to a new one after

ensuring I had everything I could possibly need. Time just got away from me

and here it is a new year already and time to start anew. Finally, it was

time to set some of these groups I'm on to receive them again and get back

into the swing of things.

I haven't seen some of the current mails so have lost track of what's going

on with the group and don't know who's actively involved in it. Are

and Harry still here?

As for me, man what a roller coaster I've been on. It seems like every few

years the body turns on the medications that have been working well and so

in my case, Actos had been keeping my sugars really well controlled.

Something changed and I don't know what. I kept gaining weight and my sugars

were just not where they should have been. Finally, I got my doc to try me

on Metformin which I have to take three times a day, and even that by itself

was only bringing my fasting down from 165 with no meds, to 135, and

eventually the Metformin kicked in a little and it was down to 125. Then a

few days ago I complained to the doc that the sugars were still high,

fasting 125, 2-hour postprandial 148, and he said " that's not so bad. " I

told him that I thought I had educated him better than that and that my

2-hour should be lower than that! He added Glyburide at the smallest dose to

my regimen taken twice a day.

Thankfully, with that combination, I'm starting to lose weight and my

fastings are 94, two-hour postprandial 128, and this is after only 2 days on

the Glyburide. Hopefully I'll see better sugars over the next week or two.

I've had to get a little more strict with my own eating habits and bring

myself back into line. No more evening snacks of any kind as that might

upset the sugar level, and that's hard to do at times but necessary. But as

always, keeping an eye on the total picture is a learning experience and

watching the numbers tells me how well I'm doing. The body won't lie to me

so I can tell if I'm doing well or blowing it.

Now here's some questions for someone who knows more about these meds than I

do.

Why does Actos cause weight gain? I wasn't having weight gain on it for a

long time and all of a sudden it just " turned " on me, what would cause that?

Just what does Metformin (Glucophage) do, and what does Glyburide do? Are

there things I should watch out for with either of these aside from possibly

really low sugars with the Glyburide?

Well now that I'm done with my novel it's time to sign off. I look forward

to receiving e-mails now from the group and hope I can contribute to someone

else's questions much as people on here have helped me.

Best regards,

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Hi, Harry.

I don't dispute what Dr. Bernstein says; it makes some sense.

Medically-seapking, though, his assertion hasn't been proven either way

and there's considerable argument about it. It would be a ticklish

business to ferret out in any case because administration of insulin

messes up things like C-peptide tests which help to determine Beta-cell

function. Ain't science grand?

Mike

> Glad to see you back Bill. Before I finally became insulin dependent I was

> on glyburide and Actose for many years. Glyburide, the generic form of

> Diabeta, is a medication that stimulates the pancreas to produce insulin,

> which it does quite well until your pancreas beta cells just plain play out.

> At least it does in most diabetics between 10-15 years. I guess I was

> lucky, since my pancrease beta cells played out after 16 years. This caused

> me to become insulin dependent. Now when it comes to Actos, it is a

> medicine which is supposed to reduce insulin resistance, which I reckon it

> does. The last two oral medications I was on before becoming insulin

> dependent was glyburide and Actos. I believe you will know when these two

> meds no longer work for you by measuring your two hour post prandial bs

> levels, and if they run over 120 consistently, you may be a candidate for

> either a lower consumption of carbohydrates or a candidate for short-acting

> insulin like Humalog or Novolog. I do not know if this is true or not, but

> I was told that Dr. K. Bernstein says you may save your pancreas

> beta cells from burning out by learning to dose with short --acting insulin.

> I have read his entire book Diabetes Solution, but I do not recall this

> passage in it. I guess I will have to make a search of the text to see if

> it is there.

> Hope this info helps you, since it comes from real life experiences by yours

> truly.

> I'm back!

>

>

>> It's been awhile since I've been on this board. I had gone no-mail during

>> the summer because I've been trying, in between all kinds of

>> interruptions,

>> to archive everything on an old hard drive and change out to a new one

>> after

>> ensuring I had everything I could possibly need. Time just got away from

>> me

>> and here it is a new year already and time to start anew. Finally, it was

>> time to set some of these groups I'm on to receive them again and get back

>> into the swing of things.

>>

>> I haven't seen some of the current mails so have lost track of what's

>> going

>> on with the group and don't know who's actively involved in it. Are

>> and Harry still here?

>>

>> As for me, man what a roller coaster I've been on. It seems like every few

>> years the body turns on the medications that have been working well and so

>> in my case, Actos had been keeping my sugars really well controlled.

>> Something changed and I don't know what. I kept gaining weight and my

>> sugars

>> were just not where they should have been. Finally, I got my doc to try me

>> on Metformin which I have to take three times a day, and even that by

>> itself

>> was only bringing my fasting down from 165 with no meds, to 135, and

>> eventually the Metformin kicked in a little and it was down to 125. Then a

>> few days ago I complained to the doc that the sugars were still high,

>> fasting 125, 2-hour postprandial 148, and he said " that's not so bad. " I

>> told him that I thought I had educated him better than that and that my

>> 2-hour should be lower than that! He added Glyburide at the smallest dose

>> to

>> my regimen taken twice a day.

>>

>> Thankfully, with that combination, I'm starting to lose weight and my

>> fastings are 94, two-hour postprandial 128, and this is after only 2 days

>> on

>> the Glyburide. Hopefully I'll see better sugars over the next week or two.

>>

>> I've had to get a little more strict with my own eating habits and bring

>> myself back into line. No more evening snacks of any kind as that might

>> upset the sugar level, and that's hard to do at times but necessary. But

>> as

>> always, keeping an eye on the total picture is a learning experience and

>> watching the numbers tells me how well I'm doing. The body won't lie to me

>> so I can tell if I'm doing well or blowing it.

>>

>> Now here's some questions for someone who knows more about these meds than

>> I

>> do.

>>

>> Why does Actos cause weight gain? I wasn't having weight gain on it for a

>> long time and all of a sudden it just " turned " on me, what would cause

>> that?

>>

>> Just what does Metformin (Glucophage) do, and what does Glyburide do? Are

>> there things I should watch out for with either of these aside from

>> possibly

>> really low sugars with the Glyburide?

>>

>> Well now that I'm done with my novel it's time to sign off. I look forward

>> to receiving e-mails now from the group and hope I can contribute to

>> someone

>> else's questions much as people on here have helped me.

>>

>> Best regards,

>>

>> Bill Powers

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Harry,

Thanks for your input, as well as thanks to Mike and . The idea that

my pancreatic beta cells may one day play out kind of scares me but yet

doesn't surprise me. It seems like with any medication we're just buying a

little time but I guess 10-15 years is better than becoming type 1 now. It's

too bad Actose stopped working for me, it was doing so well but I did hate

the weight gain despite my best efforts at carb counting.

I theorize that if I can lose some weight, the BS will continue to stay

under better control and that in turn will give me better health. I could no

longer accomplish that with Actos, but so far so good with Metformin and

Glyburide.

Along with getting used to taking Metformin and Glyburide instead of a

once-a-day Actos, I've been getting use to the FreeStyle glucometer which

requires a lot less blood than my Accu-Check Advantage. What I also see is

that, judging by my blood sugar today, I will have to make some changes in

my diet at breakfast time that I should have made long ago. It's a hard line

to tow because my wife loves oatmeal or cream of wheat, and we like orange

juice, then I like my 1 cup of coffee. Well, my fasting was 94 but my 2-hour

postprandial was 165. Um well, cream of wheat is partly to blame but I would

suspect the orange juice has more to do with that, so I will have to start

drinking Crystal Lite instead which would have no carbs. Then I can see if

my 2HPP will get within tolerance. It used to with Actos. It's mornings like

this that I mutter to myself " gee, I should eat cardboard but that probably

has carbohydrates too. "

Ever onward the learning process goes.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Harry,

Thanks for your input, as well as thanks to Mike and . The idea that

my pancreatic beta cells may one day play out kind of scares me but yet

doesn't surprise me. It seems like with any medication we're just buying a

little time but I guess 10-15 years is better than becoming type 1 now. It's

too bad Actose stopped working for me, it was doing so well but I did hate

the weight gain despite my best efforts at carb counting.

I theorize that if I can lose some weight, the BS will continue to stay

under better control and that in turn will give me better health. I could no

longer accomplish that with Actos, but so far so good with Metformin and

Glyburide.

Along with getting used to taking Metformin and Glyburide instead of a

once-a-day Actos, I've been getting use to the FreeStyle glucometer which

requires a lot less blood than my Accu-Check Advantage. What I also see is

that, judging by my blood sugar today, I will have to make some changes in

my diet at breakfast time that I should have made long ago. It's a hard line

to tow because my wife loves oatmeal or cream of wheat, and we like orange

juice, then I like my 1 cup of coffee. Well, my fasting was 94 but my 2-hour

postprandial was 165. Um well, cream of wheat is partly to blame but I would

suspect the orange juice has more to do with that, so I will have to start

drinking Crystal Lite instead which would have no carbs. Then I can see if

my 2HPP will get within tolerance. It used to with Actos. It's mornings like

this that I mutter to myself " gee, I should eat cardboard but that probably

has carbohydrates too. "

Ever onward the learning process goes.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Yep, bill, crem of wheat and orange juice are a killer! Way too much fast

acting carbs. Don't they have sugar free Tang?

Re: I'm back!

Harry,

Thanks for your input, as well as thanks to Mike and . The idea that

my pancreatic beta cells may one day play out kind of scares me but yet

doesn't surprise me. It seems like with any medication we're just buying a

little time but I guess 10-15 years is better than becoming type 1 now. It's

too bad Actose stopped working for me, it was doing so well but I did hate

the weight gain despite my best efforts at carb counting.

I theorize that if I can lose some weight, the BS will continue to stay

under better control and that in turn will give me better health. I could no

longer accomplish that with Actos, but so far so good with Metformin and

Glyburide.

Along with getting used to taking Metformin and Glyburide instead of a

once-a-day Actos, I've been getting use to the FreeStyle glucometer which

requires a lot less blood than my Accu-Check Advantage. What I also see is

that, judging by my blood sugar today, I will have to make some changes in

my diet at breakfast time that I should have made long ago. It's a hard line

to tow because my wife loves oatmeal or cream of wheat, and we like orange

juice, then I like my 1 cup of coffee. Well, my fasting was 94 but my 2-hour

postprandial was 165. Um well, cream of wheat is partly to blame but I would

suspect the orange juice has more to do with that, so I will have to start

drinking Crystal Lite instead which would have no carbs. Then I can see if

my 2HPP will get within tolerance. It used to with Actos. It's mornings like

this that I mutter to myself " gee, I should eat cardboard but that probably

has carbohydrates too. "

Ever onward the learning process goes.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

, oh there probably is sugar free Tang, but actually Crystal Light

is fine, just have to mix it up more often and substitute that. For the

cream of wheat at least I use Splenda, ditto for what I put in the coffee. I

tried Stevia over the summer but it just didn't taste right, too sweet for

me. Back to Splenda.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill,

I thought I would just advise you that people who have had Type 2 diabetes

and go onto insulin don't become known as Type 1 Diabetes. They change

from a non insulin dependent to insulin dependent but still known as a Type

2.

from down under

Re: I'm back!

> Harry,

>

> Thanks for your input, as well as thanks to Mike and . The idea

that

> my pancreatic beta cells may one day play out kind of scares me but yet

> doesn't surprise me. It seems like with any medication we're just buying a

> little time but I guess 10-15 years is better than becoming type 1 now.

It's

> too bad Actose stopped working for me, it was doing so well but I did hate

> the weight gain despite my best efforts at carb counting.

>

> I theorize that if I can lose some weight, the BS will continue to stay

> under better control and that in turn will give me better health. I could

no

> longer accomplish that with Actos, but so far so good with Metformin and

> Glyburide.

>

> Along with getting used to taking Metformin and Glyburide instead of a

> once-a-day Actos, I've been getting use to the FreeStyle glucometer which

> requires a lot less blood than my Accu-Check Advantage. What I also see is

> that, judging by my blood sugar today, I will have to make some changes in

> my diet at breakfast time that I should have made long ago. It's a hard

line

> to tow because my wife loves oatmeal or cream of wheat, and we like orange

> juice, then I like my 1 cup of coffee. Well, my fasting was 94 but my

2-hour

> postprandial was 165. Um well, cream of wheat is partly to blame but I

would

> suspect the orange juice has more to do with that, so I will have to start

> drinking Crystal Lite instead which would have no carbs. Then I can see if

> my 2HPP will get within tolerance. It used to with Actos. It's mornings

like

> this that I mutter to myself " gee, I should eat cardboard but that

probably

> has carbohydrates too. "

>

> Ever onward the learning process goes.

>

> Bill Powers