Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 susie. i'm reading and saving all your emails. gonna try to answer a few all in one (and i'll forget some). i now have a website, and it's No. 1 on the yahoo. i think now i just need to create new stuff and add it; get to the orders i have; and concentrate on me. i've told brother and the rest that i will give myself a year now. that will get me thru christmas, and give me some more time to recoup from losing mom. i'm keeping a journal, but not like you suggested. i think adding the stress stuff, or moping feeling, or whatever, will help. it will give me insight into why i feel this way (sluggish), and maybe help. i got an email from another list member who suggested i not read Dr. Phil. I know there are some motivational books out there, and maybe i will start wit h one that is not as abrasive or judgmental as Dr. Phil. and i think someone else suggested that you write down all the good things about yourself, so i may even do that (that' a tough one for me). as far as ordering stuff: i think i need that crutch right now. i'm not saying i'm special or different from anyone on here, but for me personally, i need that little support system of some snacks to start off with. i may find that later on, they are not necessary, but for the next few weeks, i think just knowing they are there would be good one major problem with me is getting out. and trust me on this one. when i quit a " real " job 15 years ago to help mom take care of dad, i was thrilled. i hated dealing with coworkers (and the feeling was mutual) and i found dealing with myself easier. lol i know that i miss people, so i'm trying to figure out something that would get me out of the house some (not walking), and being able to chat some with " real " people, and not emails, but at the same time not be something like a job (i have absolutely no clothes and the thought of purchasing my tent-size stuff makes me shiver). so, to end another long email, i'm gonna try to get myself going this week. i'm working on tons of orders that have backed up on me. and i'm gonna try to list my game plan for what i want to see me do with my life, and then do it. and i'm gonna try to tell myself that playing dominoes or solitaire on pogo is nice after i finish a day's work, but i can't have all day long to sleep, play and do nothing any longer. i've had two months to get some sleep and energy back, grieve, relax, and vacation. and now, it's back to realiity. pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 susie. i'm reading and saving all your emails. gonna try to answer a few all in one (and i'll forget some). i now have a website, and it's No. 1 on the yahoo. i think now i just need to create new stuff and add it; get to the orders i have; and concentrate on me. i've told brother and the rest that i will give myself a year now. that will get me thru christmas, and give me some more time to recoup from losing mom. i'm keeping a journal, but not like you suggested. i think adding the stress stuff, or moping feeling, or whatever, will help. it will give me insight into why i feel this way (sluggish), and maybe help. i got an email from another list member who suggested i not read Dr. Phil. I know there are some motivational books out there, and maybe i will start wit h one that is not as abrasive or judgmental as Dr. Phil. and i think someone else suggested that you write down all the good things about yourself, so i may even do that (that' a tough one for me). as far as ordering stuff: i think i need that crutch right now. i'm not saying i'm special or different from anyone on here, but for me personally, i need that little support system of some snacks to start off with. i may find that later on, they are not necessary, but for the next few weeks, i think just knowing they are there would be good one major problem with me is getting out. and trust me on this one. when i quit a " real " job 15 years ago to help mom take care of dad, i was thrilled. i hated dealing with coworkers (and the feeling was mutual) and i found dealing with myself easier. lol i know that i miss people, so i'm trying to figure out something that would get me out of the house some (not walking), and being able to chat some with " real " people, and not emails, but at the same time not be something like a job (i have absolutely no clothes and the thought of purchasing my tent-size stuff makes me shiver). so, to end another long email, i'm gonna try to get myself going this week. i'm working on tons of orders that have backed up on me. and i'm gonna try to list my game plan for what i want to see me do with my life, and then do it. and i'm gonna try to tell myself that playing dominoes or solitaire on pogo is nice after i finish a day's work, but i can't have all day long to sleep, play and do nothing any longer. i've had two months to get some sleep and energy back, grieve, relax, and vacation. and now, it's back to realiity. pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 >i know that i miss people, so i'm >trying to figure out something that would get me out of the house some >(not >walking), and being able to chat some with " real " people, Hi Pat, I volunteer at the hospital and I really enjoy it. I highly recommend volunteering just because it gets you out there with people and yet it is not a big deal if you call off. You get the good parts of having a job without the bad parts. What job do you know of where people thank you for coming in, thank you for your help and are really nice to you so you will keep coming back. By the way what is your website address, I'd like to take a look at your baskets. By the way, I agree Dr, Phil is very into blaming, I don't like his style at all, very negative. But that is just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 >i know that i miss people, so i'm >trying to figure out something that would get me out of the house some >(not >walking), and being able to chat some with " real " people, Hi Pat, I volunteer at the hospital and I really enjoy it. I highly recommend volunteering just because it gets you out there with people and yet it is not a big deal if you call off. You get the good parts of having a job without the bad parts. What job do you know of where people thank you for coming in, thank you for your help and are really nice to you so you will keep coming back. By the way what is your website address, I'd like to take a look at your baskets. By the way, I agree Dr, Phil is very into blaming, I don't like his style at all, very negative. But that is just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 sarah. i had not thought about it, but when it was pointed out to me privately, i realized that Dr. Phil had no sympathy for " fatties " --something i find from family and neighbors. i tried to decide when was the moment i turned to food and what started it. i'm not really sure. i was an ugly kid with glasses, adopted, and flat as a bean pole. i was put in a private school, and was never a cheerleader, sorority girl or any of that stuff. that baggage carried over, and there were some very unsuccessful romantic endeavors. who knows. and for lots of us, it is the excuse for failing in life. or for not being what others call successful. i know there are some books that say " hey, you're worthy; you're ok; screw Dr. Phil " , and ithink i'm gonna opt for one of those. i have enough finger pointers. lol and my site is www.basketsbypat.com and i'm trying to find some healthy recipes to include. i had a computer crash a while back (prior to diabetes) and had to unload one section of recipes. i unloaded my " healthy " file because i didn't need them. lol but i saved the desserts. now the desserts are stored on floppies, and i'm trying to recoup some of the healthy stuff. pat > > your baskets. > By the way, I agree Dr, Phil is very into blaming, I don't like his style > at > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 sarah. i had not thought about it, but when it was pointed out to me privately, i realized that Dr. Phil had no sympathy for " fatties " --something i find from family and neighbors. i tried to decide when was the moment i turned to food and what started it. i'm not really sure. i was an ugly kid with glasses, adopted, and flat as a bean pole. i was put in a private school, and was never a cheerleader, sorority girl or any of that stuff. that baggage carried over, and there were some very unsuccessful romantic endeavors. who knows. and for lots of us, it is the excuse for failing in life. or for not being what others call successful. i know there are some books that say " hey, you're worthy; you're ok; screw Dr. Phil " , and ithink i'm gonna opt for one of those. i have enough finger pointers. lol and my site is www.basketsbypat.com and i'm trying to find some healthy recipes to include. i had a computer crash a while back (prior to diabetes) and had to unload one section of recipes. i unloaded my " healthy " file because i didn't need them. lol but i saved the desserts. now the desserts are stored on floppies, and i'm trying to recoup some of the healthy stuff. pat > > your baskets. > By the way, I agree Dr, Phil is very into blaming, I don't like his style > at > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 I am interested in the website you have created could you please send the link to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 oh, and i'm gonna try volunteering. hospital was suggested, but i spent so much time there when mom was sick that i actually got to know most of the doctors. each time we went there, brother was amazed that i would see someone i knew walking down the hall, in the dining room, wherever, and i guess i just don't want to get back to the hospital any time soon. or the nursing home. but i'm thinking of the humane society, or doing rescue for animals, or our visitor's bureau, or something. just need to figure out what i really want to do that does not bring back the last year or so. pat > > your baskets. > By the way, I agree Dr, Phil is very into blaming, I don't like his style > at > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 christy, i think brother is right some. i'm not lazy, but i don't like to exercise and am not active. weaving moves my arms, and i get up to take the stuff back and forth, but it' not real exercise. and sitting at the computer works my fingers only. and the sitters told me they were amazed at how little i ate during the day. mom (who weighed 100 lbs less) ate twice what i did for breakfast, and we ate about the same (me a little less) at the other meals. and i really don't snack that much any more. but when i do snack, it's loaded with sugar/calories. i know before when i actually exercised, i dropped weight like crazy. and when i ate propery, i felt better and everything settled down. and i realize that it's now totally up to me. pat > ? > There are studies that verify that uncontrolled diabetes leads to > weight gain. All that excess glucose and insulin turns to fat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 christy, i think brother is right some. i'm not lazy, but i don't like to exercise and am not active. weaving moves my arms, and i get up to take the stuff back and forth, but it' not real exercise. and sitting at the computer works my fingers only. and the sitters told me they were amazed at how little i ate during the day. mom (who weighed 100 lbs less) ate twice what i did for breakfast, and we ate about the same (me a little less) at the other meals. and i really don't snack that much any more. but when i do snack, it's loaded with sugar/calories. i know before when i actually exercised, i dropped weight like crazy. and when i ate propery, i felt better and everything settled down. and i realize that it's now totally up to me. pat > ? > There are studies that verify that uncontrolled diabetes leads to > weight gain. All that excess glucose and insulin turns to fat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > sarah. i had not thought about it, but when it was pointed out to me > privately, i realized that Dr. Phil had no sympathy for " fatties " -- something > i find from family and neighbors. i tried to decide when was the moment i > turned to food and what started it. Pat, have you considered that you are overweight because you were insulin resistant and are diabetic, and not the other way around? There are studies that verify that uncontrolled diabetes leads to weight gain. All that excess glucose and insulin turns to fat. Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > sarah. i had not thought about it, but when it was pointed out to me > privately, i realized that Dr. Phil had no sympathy for " fatties " -- something > i find from family and neighbors. i tried to decide when was the moment i > turned to food and what started it. Pat, have you considered that you are overweight because you were insulin resistant and are diabetic, and not the other way around? There are studies that verify that uncontrolled diabetes leads to weight gain. All that excess glucose and insulin turns to fat. Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Exercise not only burns calories, it helps type 2s improve insulin use, thus helping with blood sugar control. C i know before when i actually > exercised, i dropped weight like crazy. and when i ate propery, i felt > better and everything settled down. and i realize that it's now totally up > to me. pat > > > ? > > There are studies that verify that uncontrolled diabetes leads to > > weight gain. All that excess glucose and insulin turns to fat. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Exercise not only burns calories, it helps type 2s improve insulin use, thus helping with blood sugar control. C i know before when i actually > exercised, i dropped weight like crazy. and when i ate propery, i felt > better and everything settled down. and i realize that it's now totally up > to me. pat > > > ? > > There are studies that verify that uncontrolled diabetes leads to > > weight gain. All that excess glucose and insulin turns to fat. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 well, my paypal funds finally came thru (whew). i'm getting some of the little candies (looks like about a bite) and a few bars; shakes; the JustCheese; and some bread. i'm gonna try all the things recommended, and then decide which ones i like. i tried Atkins bars at the pharmacy, and they were cardboard. so i need to make sure the Ross and others work for me. if not, then i'll resort to radishes, celery and that stuff. it's funny. i always wondered why some things happened, and i knew mom's ordeal was for a reason. i'm now thinking that it actually helped me with some of my diet habits, because i stopped making my daily scones, muffins and coffeecakes. now i don't really want to take the time to sift, measure, etc., and i know that it's not good, so why do it? i told myself last nite when i went for my " emergency " ice cream that i really didn't want it; it was just a habit. i'm gonna order some of the ice cream in low-carb, but i really think with the help of the friends here, and getting busy, and just working on myself, i'll be able to handle this without all the crutches. pat (thanks vicki) > > ricotta, cottage cheese, or yoghurt in a bowl, mix in Da Vinci sugarfree > syrup (favorites are Cookie Dough and Strawberry), and top with chopped > nuts and sometimes Protein Crunch cereal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 well, my paypal funds finally came thru (whew). i'm getting some of the little candies (looks like about a bite) and a few bars; shakes; the JustCheese; and some bread. i'm gonna try all the things recommended, and then decide which ones i like. i tried Atkins bars at the pharmacy, and they were cardboard. so i need to make sure the Ross and others work for me. if not, then i'll resort to radishes, celery and that stuff. it's funny. i always wondered why some things happened, and i knew mom's ordeal was for a reason. i'm now thinking that it actually helped me with some of my diet habits, because i stopped making my daily scones, muffins and coffeecakes. now i don't really want to take the time to sift, measure, etc., and i know that it's not good, so why do it? i told myself last nite when i went for my " emergency " ice cream that i really didn't want it; it was just a habit. i'm gonna order some of the ice cream in low-carb, but i really think with the help of the friends here, and getting busy, and just working on myself, i'll be able to handle this without all the crutches. pat (thanks vicki) > > ricotta, cottage cheese, or yoghurt in a bowl, mix in Da Vinci sugarfree > syrup (favorites are Cookie Dough and Strawberry), and top with chopped > nuts and sometimes Protein Crunch cereal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 pat0829@... wrote: > oh, and i'm gonna try volunteering. but i'm thinking of the humane society, or doing rescue for > animals, or our visitor's bureau, or something. just need to figure out > what i really want to do that does not bring back the last year or so. pat > If you're a pet lover (and it sounds like you are), there is very little that is more rewarding than working in pet rescue and adoption. All the warm furry hugs and snuggles and kisses definitely reduce my carb cravings! And don't feel guilty about using the low-carb goodies as a crutch. I know myself too well to believe that I could just cold turkey the goodies and be able to stick to low carb for very long. I don't consider the shakes a goodie, anyway - it's a very healthy way for me to get a low-carb, high protein breakfast on days when I don't feel like eggs or leftovers. (BTW, my favorite is the Life Extension Foundation Enhanced Life Extension Whey Protein in vanilla; I add cocoa, instant decaf coffee, cream, neufchatel, Da Vinci syrup or Splenda, and lots of ice. Yum!) And I feel that having a good stockpile of low-carb chocolate bars around really helps me avoid the high carb snacks even if everyone else around me is eating them. And it's kept me from going out for ice cream many an evening! Those low-carb chocolate bars are full of fat, however, and also can give you gas and diarrhea if you eat too much (from the maltilol). My favorite non-chocolate dessert is to put 1/2 c ricotta, cottage cheese, or yoghurt in a bowl, mix in Da Vinci sugarfree syrup (favorites are Cookie Dough and Strawberry), and top with chopped nuts and sometimes Protein Crunch cereal (another low-carb goodie I consider essential to keep around). Sometimes I'll have a big bowl as a breakfast or lunch, and include both cottage cheese and yogurt, and both nuts and Protein Crunch. It feels like eating an ice cream sundae, satisfies the sweet-creamy-crunchy urges, and is actually good for you! One thing I heard that helped me, is to move all your dessert sweets (including the low-carb ones) to mealtimes. Sit down with a cup of decaf after dinner and savor that dark low-carb chocolate bar, rather than munching mindlessly in front of the TV or while caught up in a novel. I found it also really helps if you adopt the mindset that eating is at meals, and only water and zero-carb beverages in between. If you really get hungry (i.e., you drink a big glass of water, wait ten minutes, are still hungry, AND it's been at least 2 hours since your last meal), eat a " mini-meal " that includes protein and at least one other food; e.g., instead of trying to quell the munchies with celery and dip, eat 2-3 ounces of string cheese first, or a large handful of almonds, then do the celery and dip. You'll end up with a better balance of food, and satisfy the munchies better. Hope this helps! Hang in there, kiddo, we're rooting for you. -- el (andrea@...) Nevada City, CA, USA " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " " One is taught by experience to put a premium on those few people who can appreciate you for what you are. " - Gail Godwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 pat0829@... wrote: > oh, and i'm gonna try volunteering. but i'm thinking of the humane society, or doing rescue for > animals, or our visitor's bureau, or something. just need to figure out > what i really want to do that does not bring back the last year or so. pat > If you're a pet lover (and it sounds like you are), there is very little that is more rewarding than working in pet rescue and adoption. All the warm furry hugs and snuggles and kisses definitely reduce my carb cravings! And don't feel guilty about using the low-carb goodies as a crutch. I know myself too well to believe that I could just cold turkey the goodies and be able to stick to low carb for very long. I don't consider the shakes a goodie, anyway - it's a very healthy way for me to get a low-carb, high protein breakfast on days when I don't feel like eggs or leftovers. (BTW, my favorite is the Life Extension Foundation Enhanced Life Extension Whey Protein in vanilla; I add cocoa, instant decaf coffee, cream, neufchatel, Da Vinci syrup or Splenda, and lots of ice. Yum!) And I feel that having a good stockpile of low-carb chocolate bars around really helps me avoid the high carb snacks even if everyone else around me is eating them. And it's kept me from going out for ice cream many an evening! Those low-carb chocolate bars are full of fat, however, and also can give you gas and diarrhea if you eat too much (from the maltilol). My favorite non-chocolate dessert is to put 1/2 c ricotta, cottage cheese, or yoghurt in a bowl, mix in Da Vinci sugarfree syrup (favorites are Cookie Dough and Strawberry), and top with chopped nuts and sometimes Protein Crunch cereal (another low-carb goodie I consider essential to keep around). Sometimes I'll have a big bowl as a breakfast or lunch, and include both cottage cheese and yogurt, and both nuts and Protein Crunch. It feels like eating an ice cream sundae, satisfies the sweet-creamy-crunchy urges, and is actually good for you! One thing I heard that helped me, is to move all your dessert sweets (including the low-carb ones) to mealtimes. Sit down with a cup of decaf after dinner and savor that dark low-carb chocolate bar, rather than munching mindlessly in front of the TV or while caught up in a novel. I found it also really helps if you adopt the mindset that eating is at meals, and only water and zero-carb beverages in between. If you really get hungry (i.e., you drink a big glass of water, wait ten minutes, are still hungry, AND it's been at least 2 hours since your last meal), eat a " mini-meal " that includes protein and at least one other food; e.g., instead of trying to quell the munchies with celery and dip, eat 2-3 ounces of string cheese first, or a large handful of almonds, then do the celery and dip. You'll end up with a better balance of food, and satisfy the munchies better. Hope this helps! Hang in there, kiddo, we're rooting for you. -- el (andrea@...) Nevada City, CA, USA " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " " One is taught by experience to put a premium on those few people who can appreciate you for what you are. " - Gail Godwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 > i told myself last nite when i went for my " emergency " ice cream that i > really didn't want it; it was just a habit. i'm gonna order some of the > ice > cream in low-carb, but i really think with the help of the friends here, > and > getting busy, and just working on myself, i'll be able to handle this > without > all the crutches. Now that I gave in and got Splenda, I made a great dessert for lunch today ;-) 1/3 pkg. cream cheese, a bunch of cream, some vanilla, a peach and handful of almonds. Beat up the cream cheese and cream. Add vanilla and Splenda, fold in a diced up fresh peach and a handful of sliced almonds. My bg was 96 after a HUGE chef's salad and that ;-) Mmmmmmm....... (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 > i told myself last nite when i went for my " emergency " ice cream that i > really didn't want it; it was just a habit. i'm gonna order some of the > ice > cream in low-carb, but i really think with the help of the friends here, > and > getting busy, and just working on myself, i'll be able to handle this > without > all the crutches. Now that I gave in and got Splenda, I made a great dessert for lunch today ;-) 1/3 pkg. cream cheese, a bunch of cream, some vanilla, a peach and handful of almonds. Beat up the cream cheese and cream. Add vanilla and Splenda, fold in a diced up fresh peach and a handful of sliced almonds. My bg was 96 after a HUGE chef's salad and that ;-) Mmmmmmm....... (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 can't have the almonds, but bet i could add almond extract. or use strawberries. i still haven't done up the fake ice cream with jello. but i think when you " need " it, you can come up with lots of substitutes. this sound wonderful. pat > > Now that I gave in and got Splenda, I made a great dessert for lunch today > ;-) 1/3 pkg. cream cheese, a bunch of cream, some vanilla, a peach and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 can't have the almonds, but bet i could add almond extract. or use strawberries. i still haven't done up the fake ice cream with jello. but i think when you " need " it, you can come up with lots of substitutes. this sound wonderful. pat > > Now that I gave in and got Splenda, I made a great dessert for lunch today > ;-) 1/3 pkg. cream cheese, a bunch of cream, some vanilla, a peach and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 > or use > strawberries. The day before I made the same thing without almonds but with cut up strawberries ;-) My diabetic educator told me to eat 10 tree nuts a day. Usually I count out 10 cashews, but I have every kind in the freezer. Today I saw chocolate and caramel bottled flavorings at the co-op. Folks on low carb lists use those. Might be interesting to experiment. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 > or use > strawberries. The day before I made the same thing without almonds but with cut up strawberries ;-) My diabetic educator told me to eat 10 tree nuts a day. Usually I count out 10 cashews, but I have every kind in the freezer. Today I saw chocolate and caramel bottled flavorings at the co-op. Folks on low carb lists use those. Might be interesting to experiment. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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