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Buy him the book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " it is around $45 but your

health is worth it. Or even Peatfield's new book " Your Thyroid and How

to Keep it Healthy " which is cheaper and available through Amazon.

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Buy him the book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " it is around $45 but your

health is worth it. Or even Peatfield's new book " Your Thyroid and How

to Keep it Healthy " which is cheaper and available through Amazon.

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Here is a link to buy it.

http://www.ccthomas.com/details.cfm?P_ISBN=039807500X

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Buy him the book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " it is around $45 but your

health is worth it. Or even Peatfield's new book " Your Thyroid and How

to Keep it Healthy " which is cheaper and available through Amazon.

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Here is a link to buy it.

http://www.ccthomas.com/details.cfm?P_ISBN=039807500X

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Buy him the book " Safe Uses of Cortisol " it is around $45 but your

health is worth it. Or even Peatfield's new book " Your Thyroid and How

to Keep it Healthy " which is cheaper and available through Amazon.

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I just read this at one of the Men's Health boards Dr. nco is the only Dr.

I have found that agrees with what is said here and at

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/. He has been a big help to a lot of use

Free. He also posts at Chris's site for Hypopituitary Problems.

Here is a but and paste of a post he just did today at

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/adrenal-fatigue-wilsons-glandul\

ar-134248045.html

It looks like he has problems with the use of Licorice.

Phil

Re: Adrenal Fatigue and 's Glandular Extracts

---------------------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Normandy

Anyone here with Adrenal Fatigue tried any sources of adrenal glandular

extracts out there?

Anyone have thoughts on the pros and cons? I'll be honest, it seems like a alot

of bull to me and somehow can't get past the notion that Dr.'s site is all

about making money. But deep inside, im hoping there's something to his research

after all.

Any of u guys have any success with it?

-- Normandy

The best adrenal glandular extract is IsoCort. It has the best standardized

(albeit not published) level of hydrocortisone. It is milder than the same mg of

Hydrocortisone.

It is useful for treatment of Adrenal Fatigue/Adrenal Depletion (my new term for

it, since most doctors cannot understand the term " fatigue " as it applies to the

adrenal glands. I sometimes use the term " stress-induced adrenal insufficiency "

though the term " adrenal insufficiency " has been monopolized to mean only

's disease.).

The other adrenal extracts, I've found, tend to be too mild. They are useful for

some people - particularly those with milder versions of adrenal fatigue.

I don't like the Licorice that is often added to adrenal extract combination

products because it often leads to sharp drops in cortisol levels, leading to a

person crashing with hypoglycemia and dizziness when Licorice's effect wears

off. Licorice also often causes nausea.

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change as medical knowledge progresses. It does not constitute medical advice,

does not substitute for proper medical evaluation from physician, does not

create a doctor/patient relationship or liability. If you would like medical

advice, please make an appointment. Thank you.

sebrown1126 wrote:

Good morning all--

My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my metabolism

moving so I can lose some weight.

My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning. I've

been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words of

wisdom for what I should tell him?

Thanks, Sara in MI

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I just read this at one of the Men's Health boards Dr. nco is the only Dr.

I have found that agrees with what is said here and at

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/. He has been a big help to a lot of use

Free. He also posts at Chris's site for Hypopituitary Problems.

Here is a but and paste of a post he just did today at

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/adrenal-fatigue-wilsons-glandul\

ar-134248045.html

It looks like he has problems with the use of Licorice.

Phil

Re: Adrenal Fatigue and 's Glandular Extracts

---------------------------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Normandy

Anyone here with Adrenal Fatigue tried any sources of adrenal glandular

extracts out there?

Anyone have thoughts on the pros and cons? I'll be honest, it seems like a alot

of bull to me and somehow can't get past the notion that Dr.'s site is all

about making money. But deep inside, im hoping there's something to his research

after all.

Any of u guys have any success with it?

-- Normandy

The best adrenal glandular extract is IsoCort. It has the best standardized

(albeit not published) level of hydrocortisone. It is milder than the same mg of

Hydrocortisone.

It is useful for treatment of Adrenal Fatigue/Adrenal Depletion (my new term for

it, since most doctors cannot understand the term " fatigue " as it applies to the

adrenal glands. I sometimes use the term " stress-induced adrenal insufficiency "

though the term " adrenal insufficiency " has been monopolized to mean only

's disease.).

The other adrenal extracts, I've found, tend to be too mild. They are useful for

some people - particularly those with milder versions of adrenal fatigue.

I don't like the Licorice that is often added to adrenal extract combination

products because it often leads to sharp drops in cortisol levels, leading to a

person crashing with hypoglycemia and dizziness when Licorice's effect wears

off. Licorice also often causes nausea.

__________________

Any statement I make on this site is for educational purposes only and will

change as medical knowledge progresses. It does not constitute medical advice,

does not substitute for proper medical evaluation from physician, does not

create a doctor/patient relationship or liability. If you would like medical

advice, please make an appointment. Thank you.

sebrown1126 wrote:

Good morning all--

My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my metabolism

moving so I can lose some weight.

My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning. I've

been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words of

wisdom for what I should tell him?

Thanks, Sara in MI

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Yes, 5 mgs. in the morning would be quite helpful. Many of the alternative docs

are prescribing that dose for their fatigued patients. There is also no risk of

adrenal suppression at a dose of 5 mgs., however, if you have severe adrenal

insufficiency, then you need more. If it's mild, 5 mgs. should make a

difference.

Would 5MG of HC do anything??

Good morning all--

My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my metabolism

moving so I can lose some weight.

My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning. I've

been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words of

wisdom for what I should tell him?

Thanks, Sara in MI

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Yes, 5 mgs. in the morning would be quite helpful. Many of the alternative docs

are prescribing that dose for their fatigued patients. There is also no risk of

adrenal suppression at a dose of 5 mgs., however, if you have severe adrenal

insufficiency, then you need more. If it's mild, 5 mgs. should make a

difference.

Would 5MG of HC do anything??

Good morning all--

My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my metabolism

moving so I can lose some weight.

My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning. I've

been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words of

wisdom for what I should tell him?

Thanks, Sara in MI

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>>Yes, 5 mgs. in the morning would be quite helpful.<<

Sorry I have to disagree. I have NEVER once seen an instnce where 5MG HC helped

anyone. Jusrt because some doctors are beginning to prescribe that dose does not

mean it is a correct dose.

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>>Yes, 5 mgs. in the morning would be quite helpful.<<

Sorry I have to disagree. I have NEVER once seen an instnce where 5MG HC helped

anyone. Jusrt because some doctors are beginning to prescribe that dose does not

mean it is a correct dose.

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I like his term, " adrenal depletion " . Accurately describes it, I'd say!

Warmly,

> Good morning all--

>

> My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

> tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my metabolism

> moving so I can lose some weight.

>

> My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning. I've

> been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

>

> My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words of

> wisdom for what I should tell him?

>

> Thanks, Sara in MI

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mr.Georgian, What is the difference in the dosing? I'm on HC and am

open to the different dosing schedueles.I would like to know your

thoughts on this.Thank you

Debbie

In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , philip

georgian wrote:

>

> I just read this at one of the Men's Health boards Dr. nco is

the only Dr. I have found that agrees with what is said here and at

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/. He has been a big help to a

lot of use Free. He also posts at Chris's site for Hypopituitary

Problems.

> Here is a but and paste of a post he just did today at

> http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/adrenal-fatigue-

wilsons-glandular-134248045.html

> It looks like he has problems with the use of Licorice.

> Phil

> Re: Adrenal Fatigue and 's Glandular Extracts

>

> ---------------------------------

> Quote:

> Originally Posted by Normandy

> Anyone here with Adrenal Fatigue tried any sources of adrenal

glandular extracts out there?

> Anyone have thoughts on the pros and cons? I'll be honest, it seems

like a alot of bull to me and somehow can't get past the notion that

Dr.'s site is all about making money. But deep inside, im

hoping there's something to his research after all.

>

> Any of u guys have any success with it?

>

>

>

> -- Normandy

>

>

> The best adrenal glandular extract is IsoCort. It has the best

standardized (albeit not published) level of hydrocortisone. It is

milder than the same mg of Hydrocortisone.

>

> It is useful for treatment of Adrenal Fatigue/Adrenal Depletion (my

new term for it, since most doctors cannot understand the

term " fatigue " as it applies to the adrenal glands. I sometimes use

the term " stress-induced adrenal insufficiency " though the

term " adrenal insufficiency " has been monopolized to mean only

's disease.).

>

> The other adrenal extracts, I've found, tend to be too mild. They

are useful for some people - particularly those with milder versions

of adrenal fatigue.

>

> I don't like the Licorice that is often added to adrenal extract

combination products because it often leads to sharp drops in

cortisol levels, leading to a person crashing with hypoglycemia and

dizziness when Licorice's effect wears off. Licorice also often

causes nausea.

> __________________

> Any statement I make on this site is for educational purposes only

and will change as medical knowledge progresses. It does not

constitute medical advice, does not substitute for proper medical

evaluation from physician, does not create a doctor/patient

relationship or liability. If you would like medical advice, please

make an appointment. Thank you.

>

>

> sebrown1126 wrote:

> Good morning all--

>

> My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

> tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my

metabolism

> moving so I can lose some weight.

>

> My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning.

I've

> been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

>

> My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words

of

> wisdom for what I should tell him?

>

> Thanks, Sara in MI

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Hi, I also have to agree, I can't think 5 mgs. would do much for

anyone.If you have adrenal fatiuge,it would take forever for your

adreals to heal on such a low dose.I'm not an expert,I'm in the

middle of this myself.I do know that 5 mgs. would do nothing for

me.LOL

Debbie

In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

wrote:

>

> >>Yes, 5 mgs. in the morning would be quite helpful.<<

>

> Sorry I have to disagree. I have NEVER once seen an instnce where

5MG HC helped anyone. Jusrt because some doctors are beginning to

prescribe that dose does not mean it is a correct dose.

>

> --

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> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

>

http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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He is a great cutting edge Dr. spends alot of time doing research on new things

he is a psychiatrist and working on trying to change how psychiatry is done he

feel a great % or problems people have are do to hormones. Thyriod, Adrenals

and sex hormones.

Phil

angesc2001 wrote:

I like his term, " adrenal depletion " . Accurately describes it, I'd

say!

Warmly,

> Good morning all--

>

> My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice and

> tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my metabolism

> moving so I can lose some weight.

>

> My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning. I've

> been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

>

> My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words of

> wisdom for what I should tell him?

>

> Thanks, Sara in MI

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

>

>

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Well, I guess i have to add my 2 cents worth here. I am on 5mgs once a

day (take it in the mornign w. brkfst). And it is helping. I have been

on it since the summer and boy does it make a difference for me. But

each person is different and at a different level of adrenal fatigue.

I also stress dose if i have to. Add just another 5mgs. in afternoon

before 3 pm so it doesnt interfere w. sleep. I used to have a real

hard time getting through the mornings and once i started on the 5 mgs

of cortisol, i dont have those severe drops mid morning.

Dawn

>

> >>Yes, 5 mgs. in the morning would be quite helpful.<<

>

> Sorry I have to disagree. I have NEVER once seen an instnce where

5MG HC helped anyone. Jusrt because some doctors are beginning to

prescribe that dose does not mean it is a correct dose.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

> http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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Thanks, Thats the way I take mine.I had a stim test(I think thats

what it was)and the doc told me I had very little adrenal fuction.He

didn't want me to take anything.I found a new doc that I see on

monday that I'm hoping will work with me so I don't have do this

myself anymore.I just started iodoral,but something is still

off.Hopefully this new doc will do a decent ammount of testing.

Thanks Debbie-

In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , philip

georgian wrote:

>

> I feel anyone on less then 20mgs of HC or Iscort a day is not doing

there self any good. Going by tests of cortisol 4 times in a day.

If one is very low in the morning I feel they should do a higher dose

of HC like 10 mgs. I am one of these that is low in the morning I

wake up at 6am every morning so I take my armour 1 grain then eat a

Protein bar because my sugar is low first thing in the moring. Then

I take my 10mg of HC and go back to bed I get up at 8am and feel

great better for me to let the pill work wile I am back to sleep. I

take 5 mgs at noon with 1 grain of armour and at dinner I am doing .5

grains of armour and 5 mgs. of HC. As for stress dosing I do what

Val says to do it's by the book.

> Phil

>

> debbie wrote:

> Mr.Georgian, What is the difference in the dosing? I'm on

HC and am

> open to the different dosing schedueles.I would like to know your

> thoughts on this.Thank you

> Debbie

>

>

> In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , philip

> georgian <pmgamer18@> wrote:

> >

> > I just read this at one of the Men's Health boards Dr. nco

is

> the only Dr. I have found that agrees with what is said here and at

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/. He has been a big help to a

> lot of use Free. He also posts at Chris's site for Hypopituitary

> Problems.

> > Here is a but and paste of a post he just did today at

> > http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/adrenal-fatigue-

> wilsons-glandular-134248045.html

> > It looks like he has problems with the use of Licorice.

> > Phil

> > Re: Adrenal Fatigue and 's Glandular Extracts

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Quote:

> > Originally Posted by Normandy

> > Anyone here with Adrenal Fatigue tried any sources of adrenal

> glandular extracts out there?

> > Anyone have thoughts on the pros and cons? I'll be honest, it

seems

> like a alot of bull to me and somehow can't get past the notion

that

> Dr.'s site is all about making money. But deep inside, im

> hoping there's something to his research after all.

> >

> > Any of u guys have any success with it?

> >

> >

> >

> > -- Normandy

> >

> >

> > The best adrenal glandular extract is IsoCort. It has the best

> standardized (albeit not published) level of hydrocortisone. It is

> milder than the same mg of Hydrocortisone.

> >

> > It is useful for treatment of Adrenal Fatigue/Adrenal Depletion

(my

> new term for it, since most doctors cannot understand the

> term " fatigue " as it applies to the adrenal glands. I sometimes use

> the term " stress-induced adrenal insufficiency " though the

> term " adrenal insufficiency " has been monopolized to mean only

> 's disease.).

> >

> > The other adrenal extracts, I've found, tend to be too mild. They

> are useful for some people - particularly those with milder

versions

> of adrenal fatigue.

> >

> > I don't like the Licorice that is often added to adrenal extract

> combination products because it often leads to sharp drops in

> cortisol levels, leading to a person crashing with hypoglycemia and

> dizziness when Licorice's effect wears off. Licorice also often

> causes nausea.

> > __________________

> > Any statement I make on this site is for educational purposes

only

> and will change as medical knowledge progresses. It does not

> constitute medical advice, does not substitute for proper medical

> evaluation from physician, does not create a doctor/patient

> relationship or liability. If you would like medical advice, please

> make an appointment. Thank you.

> >

> >

> > sebrown1126 <sarabrown@> wrote:

> > Good morning all--

> >

> > My adrenal numbers aren't horrible, but I have been on licorice

and

> > tons of Vitamin C for six months. Am trying now to get my

> metabolism

> > moving so I can lose some weight.

> >

> > My doc allowed 5mg of HC per day. I'm to take it in the morning.

> I've

> > been doing it for about a week and feel little difference.

> >

> > My doc is wonderful, but just too doggone conservative. Any words

> of

> > wisdom for what I should tell him?

> >

> > Thanks, Sara in MI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

rates.

> >

> >

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