Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hi all, I have and ear and sisus infection,should I be stress dosing? I just took my last dose for today because I started to feel a little shaky.Should I take more?Thanks Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Thanks Val, I took an extra 10 mgs.I don't know why I didn't think of stress dosing.Brain fog, I'll blame it on the thyroid.LOL Debbie In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , wrote: > > YES. For serious infections you can stress dose 20-40MG extra a day. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Thanks Val I didn't relize I could take that much.I do feel a little better since taking the extra 10,maybe I'll take more a little later now that I know I can. Thanks again. LOL Debbie In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , wrote: > > Some docs say 20MG other say up to 4 times that. I have stress dosed up > to 60Mg on top of a 30MG a day dose when I was on it. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Thanks Val I didn't relize I could take that much.I do feel a little better since taking the extra 10,maybe I'll take more a little later now that I know I can. Thanks again. LOL Debbie In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , wrote: > > Some docs say 20MG other say up to 4 times that. I have stress dosed up > to 60Mg on top of a 30MG a day dose when I was on it. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 > Hi Val and everyone, > > This sounds like a really bad sit-com, but ... > > Now that the yeast infection has started to clear, guess what? I have an > infection in my other ear! No WAY am I taking oral antibiotics this time, > LOL! > > I have started using the antibiotic/antiyeast eardrops that were left over > from the other ear, and they have 1% HC in them. I can't tell you how > much is in a dosage of 5 drops 2x a day. I was told that a negligible > amount is absorbed, but docs and pharmacists may well say the same about > HC creme, and some people actually use the creme to support their adrenals > due to tolerance issues ... also the drops are not to be used if you are > pregnant! > > My throat is now swollen, red, & raw, and my sinuses are congested - think > I'll break a leg tomorow? LOL Honestly, lately it never seems to stop! > > Anyway, my question is: should I take a bolus stress dose on top of > whatever HC I'm getting from the drops? I'm not nauseated or shaky, but > I " m feeling more flu/cold/sinus infection-y by the minute! If I should > stress dose, should I go for the full 20 (at 30mg daily dose) or try a > reduced bolus dose? > >I think I asked this when I had the first ear infection Val, but my dead >brain has forgotten what you said, and I didn't have the other throat/sinus >symptoms then ... > As always, thanks! > > Liz - who actually is feeling quite a bit better lately with the HC > support, despite all this side-bar crap :0) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Yes I would advise stress dosing on top of it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hi Liz,I feel for you.I had sinus surgery a few weeks ago and got an infection,I had ear surgery 13 year ago and get an infection every once in a while,both of which I have now.So I know how you feel.Don't break that leg and you'll be O.K LOL Debbie In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " E Silver " wrote: > > > > > Hi Val and everyone, > > > > This sounds like a really bad sit-com, but ... > > > > Now that the yeast infection has started to clear, guess what? I have an > > infection in my other ear! No WAY am I taking oral antibiotics this time, > > LOL! > > > > I have started using the antibiotic/antiyeast eardrops that were left over > > from the other ear, and they have 1% HC in them. I can't tell you how > > much is in a dosage of 5 drops 2x a day. I was told that a negligible > > amount is absorbed, but docs and pharmacists may well say the same about > > HC creme, and some people actually use the creme to support their adrenals > > due to tolerance issues ... also the drops are not to be used if you are > > pregnant! > > > > My throat is now swollen, red, & raw, and my sinuses are congested - think > > I'll break a leg tomorow? LOL Honestly, lately it never seems to stop! > > > > Anyway, my question is: should I take a bolus stress dose on top of > > whatever HC I'm getting from the drops? I'm not nauseated or shaky, but > > I " m feeling more flu/cold/sinus infection-y by the minute! If I should > > stress dose, should I go for the full 20 (at 30mg daily dose) or try a > > reduced bolus dose? > > > >I think I asked this when I had the first ear infection Val, but my dead > >brain has forgotten what you said, and I didn't have the other throat/sinus > >symptoms then ... > > As always, thanks! > > > > Liz - who actually is feeling quite a bit better lately with the HC > > support, despite all this side-bar crap :0) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: " debbie " both of which I have now.So I know how you feel.Don't > break that leg and you'll be O.K LOL Okay, Debbie, LOL! I'll be okay, if YOU will! Geez, I wouldn't wish sinus surgery on anyone, much less a follow up gift of sinus and ear infection. Arg! Hang in there! Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Liz, the sinus surgery wasn't bad at all.They gave me so much HC and then pred to follow up with I didn't feel much of anything.You feel better too. LOL Debbie In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " E Silver " wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " debbie " > > both of which I have now.So I know how you feel.Don't > > break that leg and you'll be O.K LOL > > > Okay, Debbie, LOL! I'll be okay, if YOU will! Geez, I wouldn't wish sinus > surgery on anyone, much less a follow up gift of sinus and ear infection. > Arg! Hang in there! > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Val - How long does this stress dose stay in your system? Marti --- wrote: > YES. For serious infections you can stress dose > 20-40MG extra a day. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Val - How long does this stress dose stay in your system? Marti --- wrote: > YES. For serious infections you can stress dose > 20-40MG extra a day. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi Kim I used the temp charting to get my adrenals level then added Arimour when I got up to 2 grains a day my temps went higher. When they start to go down I know I can raise my armour but I only go up 15mg at a time. When I started I was able to go up every 2 weeks now I am at 2.5 grains and it took 4 weeks for my Temps to go down I take this to mean I am hypo again. So today I just went up 15mg not doing 2.75 grans this has worked dam good for me. I remember only once feeling very hot all day doing this. Phil Kim wrote: Hi guys it's Kim, what does everyone mean by stress dosing? How do you guys dose with your HC when introducing more armour, and when do you know it's ok, when your temps are stable and you have no adrenal symptoms? Thanks Kimmie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 > Hi guys it's Kim, what does everyone mean by stress dosing? How do you > guys dose with your HC when introducing more armour, and when do you > know it's ok, when your temps are stable and you have no adrenal > symptoms? > > Thanks Kimmie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 > Hi guys it's Kim, what does everyone mean by stress dosing? How do you > guys dose with your HC when introducing more armour, and when do you > know it's ok, when your temps are stable and you have no adrenal > symptoms? > > Thanks Kimmie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Kimmie oyu may need to increase your HC a bit faster. You need to stop those nausea and racey feelings when taking oyur Armoru they are just form low cortisol. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: " " > Stress dosing when increasing Armoru is a matter oif adding in a little > extra t the AM dose of HC. Maybe 5MG extra for three days then you go > back to your regular doseing schedule. This covers the stress to your > adrenals from the extra thyroid till your body has a chance to adapt to > it. Val, As you suggested, I just increased my Armour 15mg yesterday (at bedtime). My previously stable temp avg today did a 7/10 degree drop ... Is this indicative of a need to stress dose an extra 5mg tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday mornings? Is it wise to stress dose like this the first 3 days of EVERY Armour increase? Thanks, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: " " > Stress dosing when increasing Armoru is a matter oif adding in a little > extra t the AM dose of HC. Maybe 5MG extra for three days then you go > back to your regular doseing schedule. This covers the stress to your > adrenals from the extra thyroid till your body has a chance to adapt to > it. Val, As you suggested, I just increased my Armour 15mg yesterday (at bedtime). My previously stable temp avg today did a 7/10 degree drop ... Is this indicative of a need to stress dose an extra 5mg tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday mornings? Is it wise to stress dose like this the first 3 days of EVERY Armour increase? Thanks, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Kim if your not leveled on your adrenals going up on Armour can make you feel like this. I did HC for 2 months before I started on Armour. My temps acg. was up and down more then .2 tenths from day to day. I went dam slow at this. Even Dr. Jefferies says in his book to do 5mgs 4 times a day of 10mgs in the morning and 5 at noon and dinner. Your only doing 15 total I was doing what Val and Jefferies says 20mgs a day. Phil Kim wrote: > Hi guys it's Kim, what does everyone mean by stress dosing? How do you > guys dose with your HC when introducing more armour, and when do you > know it's ok, when your temps are stable and you have no adrenal > symptoms? > > Thanks Kimmie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Kim if your not leveled on your adrenals going up on Armour can make you feel like this. I did HC for 2 months before I started on Armour. My temps acg. was up and down more then .2 tenths from day to day. I went dam slow at this. Even Dr. Jefferies says in his book to do 5mgs 4 times a day of 10mgs in the morning and 5 at noon and dinner. Your only doing 15 total I was doing what Val and Jefferies says 20mgs a day. Phil Kim wrote: > Hi guys it's Kim, what does everyone mean by stress dosing? How do you > guys dose with your HC when introducing more armour, and when do you > know it's ok, when your temps are stable and you have no adrenal > symptoms? > > Thanks Kimmie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 >>Is this indicative of a need to stress dose an extra 5mg tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday mornings? Is it wise to stress dose like this the first 3 days of EVERY Armour increase?<< Yes the .7 drop in temps would indicate it would be good to stress dose, but as for every time, I would wait and see if your adrenals do not get stronger wiht more thyroid increasses as they should. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 >>Is this indicative of a need to stress dose an extra 5mg tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday mornings? Is it wise to stress dose like this the first 3 days of EVERY Armour increase?<< Yes the .7 drop in temps would indicate it would be good to stress dose, but as for every time, I would wait and see if your adrenals do not get stronger wiht more thyroid increasses as they should. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: " " > Yes the .7 drop in temps would indicate it would be good to stress dose, > but as for every time, I would wait and see if your adrenals do not get > stronger wiht more thyroid increasses as they should. Wise advice, Val. Thanks! Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: " " > Yes the .7 drop in temps would indicate it would be good to stress dose, > but as for every time, I would wait and see if your adrenals do not get > stronger wiht more thyroid increasses as they should. Wise advice, Val. Thanks! Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 from Liz: >>Is this indicative of a need to stress dose an extra 5mg tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday mornings? Is it wise to stress dose like this the first 3 days of EVERY Armour increase?<< Reply from Val: >>Yes the .7 drop in temps would indicate it would be good to stress dose, but as for every time, I would wait and see if your adrenals do not get stronger wiht more thyroid increasses as they should.>> Val, Please correct me: I thought that if one added armour and there was a change from stable temps to unstable temps, it meant you weren't ready to add armour, and to back down in dose. Adding in an extra 5 h.c. in the a.m. seems like a different way of handling it. Maybe would one try to stress dose for a couple of days and if temps are still unstable, back off? This is really interesting, as I haven't tried a dose increase in weeks due to the introduction of unstable temps when I try. I always back right off. Maybe I'm being too cautious? lol Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 from Liz: >>Is this indicative of a need to stress dose an extra 5mg tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday mornings? Is it wise to stress dose like this the first 3 days of EVERY Armour increase?<< Reply from Val: >>Yes the .7 drop in temps would indicate it would be good to stress dose, but as for every time, I would wait and see if your adrenals do not get stronger wiht more thyroid increasses as they should.>> Val, Please correct me: I thought that if one added armour and there was a change from stable temps to unstable temps, it meant you weren't ready to add armour, and to back down in dose. Adding in an extra 5 h.c. in the a.m. seems like a different way of handling it. Maybe would one try to stress dose for a couple of days and if temps are still unstable, back off? This is really interesting, as I haven't tried a dose increase in weeks due to the introduction of unstable temps when I try. I always back right off. Maybe I'm being too cautious? lol Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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