Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Oh, I see. So there's tons of money to be made prescribing aspirin as a heart attack preventative? C'mon, Harry, the charge that the medical profession only recommends that which brings in lucre is getting rather old and tired. Mike Question regarding natural remedy for HBP >>> >>> >>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>> >>>> I am writing regarding my neighbor. She has been having a problem with >>>> her blood pressure since July of this year. Before then her pressure >>>> was >>>> normal to low and in July, she was bitten by something while on >>>> vacation >>>> and ever since then her blood pressure has been climbing. This morning >>>> it >>>> was 166/91 upon waking. >>>> >>>> Her doctor gave her a prescription for a medication but she can't take >>>> it >>>> until the results of her blood work comes back. The medication >>>> prescribed >>>> says not to take it if you have thyroid or kidney problems and she >>>> can't >>>> start until she has the test results. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of any natural remedies that are helpful for lowering >>>> blood pressure or of any websites she can go to for help? >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Oh, I see. So there's tons of money to be made prescribing aspirin as a heart attack preventative? C'mon, Harry, the charge that the medical profession only recommends that which brings in lucre is getting rather old and tired. Mike Question regarding natural remedy for HBP >>> >>> >>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>> >>>> I am writing regarding my neighbor. She has been having a problem with >>>> her blood pressure since July of this year. Before then her pressure >>>> was >>>> normal to low and in July, she was bitten by something while on >>>> vacation >>>> and ever since then her blood pressure has been climbing. This morning >>>> it >>>> was 166/91 upon waking. >>>> >>>> Her doctor gave her a prescription for a medication but she can't take >>>> it >>>> until the results of her blood work comes back. The medication >>>> prescribed >>>> says not to take it if you have thyroid or kidney problems and she >>>> can't >>>> start until she has the test results. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of any natural remedies that are helpful for lowering >>>> blood pressure or of any websites she can go to for help? >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Then the question to you becomes how much Vitamin C is too much for you? A definite amount of Vitamin C in milligrams would be helpful. People can tolerate up to 120,000 milligrams of Vitamin C intravenously in a single day without any problems unless they have cancer, then they need some additional treatment to rid the body of the toxins caused by the death of the cancerous tissue by way of the mega of Vitamin C. You said you have canker sores and not cancer. If you haven't dosed 50-120 grams of Vitamin C within a two to three day period, then you will never discover what a real Vitamin C treatment to bowel tolerance can do for you. I urge you to try it and see for yourself. The entire treatment will cost you less than$30, and all you have to loose is the virus. The Vitamin C I use is buffered with 100 mg of biotin and around 25 mg of rutin in a capsule containing 1000 mg of Vitamin C. There are even some forms of vitamin C that are completely neutralized of their acidity with other kinds of buffers. If you decide to do so, I believe the canker sores would disappear altogether in a matter of just a few days. I think it would be exciting to get rid of those bugs. Of course those canker sores will never kill you, and you can live with them for an entire lifetime. Maybe the aggravation canker sores cause you is not worth spending $30 to get rid of them. If it sounds like I am strongly urging you to treat yourself properly, then I admit I certainly am. It would be exciting to watch your experiment with a cure unfold on these pages. I do not sell vitamins, own stock in a vitamin company or recommend any specific brands of Vitamin C. You will have to shop for it on your own. I will not make a single nickel on your treatment. Good hunting and be sure to first have an ample supply of vitamin C on hand before starting the treatment program. All diabetics are hereby advised that this treatment program will yield false blood glucose level results with a sugar meter. I can also assure every one that their viral and bacterial infections do not bother me at all. So keep them if you wish. Re: Question regarding natural remedy for HBP > > >>A cursory look at what causes canker sores in the federal government web >> site reveals the following: >> >> Fever blisters are caused by a contagious virus called herpes simplex. >> Them >> are two types of herpes simplex virus. Type 1 usually causes oral herpes, >> or >> fever blisters. Type 2 usually causes genital herpes. Although both type >> 1 >> and type 2 viruses can infect oral tissues, more than 95 percent of >> recurrent >> fever blister outbreaks are caused by the type 1 virus. >> >> Herpes simplex virus is highly contagious when fever blisters are >> present, >> and the virus frequently is spread by kissing. Children often become >> infected >> by contact with parents, siblings or other close relatives who have fever >> blisters. >> >> A child can spread the virus by rubbing his or her cold sore and then >> touching other children. About 10 percent of oral herpes infections in >> adults result >> from oral-genital sex with a person who has active genital herpes (type >> 2). >> These infections, however, usually do not result in repeat bouts of fever >> blisters. >> >> Most people infected with the type 1 herpes simplex virus became infected >> before they were 10 years old. The virus usually invades the moist >> membrane >> cells >> of the lips, throat or mouth. In most people, the initial infection >> causes >> no symptoms. About 15 percent of patients, however, develop many >> fluid-filled >> blisters inside and outside the mouth 3 to 5 days after they are infected >> with the virus. These may be accompanied by fever, swollen neck glands >> and >> general >> aches. The blisters tend to merge and then collapse. Often a yellowish >> crust >> forms over the sores, which usually heal without scarring within 2 weeks. >> >> The herpes virus, however, stays in the body. Once a person is infected >> with >> oral herpes, the virus remains in a nerve located near the cheekbone. It >> may >> stay permanently inactive in this site, or it may occasionally travel >> down >> the nerve to the skin surface, causing a recurrence of fever blisters. >> Recurring >> blisters usually erupt at the outside edge of the lip or the edge of the >> nostril, but can also occur on the chin, cheeks, or inside the mouth. >> >> The symptoms of recurrent fever blister attacks usually are less severe >> than >> those experienced by some people after an initial infection. Recurrences >> appear >> to be less frequent after age 35. Many people who have recurring fever >> blisters feel itching, tingling or burning in the lip 1 to 3 days before >> the >> blister >> appears. >> >> What causes a recurrence of fever blisters? >> >> Several factors weaken the body's defenses and trigger an outbreak of >> herpes. These include emotional stress, fever, illness, injury and >> exposure >> to sunlight. >> Many women have recurrences only during menstruation. One study indicates >> that susceptibility to herpes recurrences is inherited. Research is under >> way >> to discover exactly how the triggering factors interact with the immune >> system and the virus to prompt a recurrence of fever blisters. >> Mike, You might had better notify the federal health department that >> vitamin >> C also causes canker sores, too, so they can add it to their list of >> causes. You will also need to know that the government presently says >> there is no known cure. >> I know differently. Of course if you do not believe it will work, what >> is >> the use in trying? >> I know Vitamin C therapy cures viral and bacterial infections. It does >> not cure fungal infections. If you cure a viral infection, does this >> mean >> you will never have it again? Of course not. If you get reinfected you >> are infected again, and it requires treatment once again. >> I would recommend to you to take vitamin C therapy to bowel tolerance for >> at least 5-7 days along with some zinc lozenges daily. I dare you to >> properly treat yourself. If you try it, it might work. If you do not >> try >> it, it definitely will not work. Let us know how it goes. Some people >> like to hang on to their illness, because it brings them some rewards. >> I definitely do not have any canker sores. I also do not believe that >> vitamin C causes your canker sores. Most creatures like to live, and >> when >> they are threatened they multiply. Small doses of vitamin C can probably >> threaten them. I highly recommend you not threaten them, but get rid of >> them for now at least. Just think, you might be cured in a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Then the question to you becomes how much Vitamin C is too much for you? A definite amount of Vitamin C in milligrams would be helpful. People can tolerate up to 120,000 milligrams of Vitamin C intravenously in a single day without any problems unless they have cancer, then they need some additional treatment to rid the body of the toxins caused by the death of the cancerous tissue by way of the mega of Vitamin C. You said you have canker sores and not cancer. If you haven't dosed 50-120 grams of Vitamin C within a two to three day period, then you will never discover what a real Vitamin C treatment to bowel tolerance can do for you. I urge you to try it and see for yourself. The entire treatment will cost you less than$30, and all you have to loose is the virus. The Vitamin C I use is buffered with 100 mg of biotin and around 25 mg of rutin in a capsule containing 1000 mg of Vitamin C. There are even some forms of vitamin C that are completely neutralized of their acidity with other kinds of buffers. If you decide to do so, I believe the canker sores would disappear altogether in a matter of just a few days. I think it would be exciting to get rid of those bugs. Of course those canker sores will never kill you, and you can live with them for an entire lifetime. Maybe the aggravation canker sores cause you is not worth spending $30 to get rid of them. If it sounds like I am strongly urging you to treat yourself properly, then I admit I certainly am. It would be exciting to watch your experiment with a cure unfold on these pages. I do not sell vitamins, own stock in a vitamin company or recommend any specific brands of Vitamin C. You will have to shop for it on your own. I will not make a single nickel on your treatment. Good hunting and be sure to first have an ample supply of vitamin C on hand before starting the treatment program. All diabetics are hereby advised that this treatment program will yield false blood glucose level results with a sugar meter. I can also assure every one that their viral and bacterial infections do not bother me at all. So keep them if you wish. Re: Question regarding natural remedy for HBP > > >>A cursory look at what causes canker sores in the federal government web >> site reveals the following: >> >> Fever blisters are caused by a contagious virus called herpes simplex. >> Them >> are two types of herpes simplex virus. Type 1 usually causes oral herpes, >> or >> fever blisters. Type 2 usually causes genital herpes. Although both type >> 1 >> and type 2 viruses can infect oral tissues, more than 95 percent of >> recurrent >> fever blister outbreaks are caused by the type 1 virus. >> >> Herpes simplex virus is highly contagious when fever blisters are >> present, >> and the virus frequently is spread by kissing. Children often become >> infected >> by contact with parents, siblings or other close relatives who have fever >> blisters. >> >> A child can spread the virus by rubbing his or her cold sore and then >> touching other children. About 10 percent of oral herpes infections in >> adults result >> from oral-genital sex with a person who has active genital herpes (type >> 2). >> These infections, however, usually do not result in repeat bouts of fever >> blisters. >> >> Most people infected with the type 1 herpes simplex virus became infected >> before they were 10 years old. The virus usually invades the moist >> membrane >> cells >> of the lips, throat or mouth. In most people, the initial infection >> causes >> no symptoms. About 15 percent of patients, however, develop many >> fluid-filled >> blisters inside and outside the mouth 3 to 5 days after they are infected >> with the virus. These may be accompanied by fever, swollen neck glands >> and >> general >> aches. The blisters tend to merge and then collapse. Often a yellowish >> crust >> forms over the sores, which usually heal without scarring within 2 weeks. >> >> The herpes virus, however, stays in the body. Once a person is infected >> with >> oral herpes, the virus remains in a nerve located near the cheekbone. It >> may >> stay permanently inactive in this site, or it may occasionally travel >> down >> the nerve to the skin surface, causing a recurrence of fever blisters. >> Recurring >> blisters usually erupt at the outside edge of the lip or the edge of the >> nostril, but can also occur on the chin, cheeks, or inside the mouth. >> >> The symptoms of recurrent fever blister attacks usually are less severe >> than >> those experienced by some people after an initial infection. Recurrences >> appear >> to be less frequent after age 35. Many people who have recurring fever >> blisters feel itching, tingling or burning in the lip 1 to 3 days before >> the >> blister >> appears. >> >> What causes a recurrence of fever blisters? >> >> Several factors weaken the body's defenses and trigger an outbreak of >> herpes. These include emotional stress, fever, illness, injury and >> exposure >> to sunlight. >> Many women have recurrences only during menstruation. One study indicates >> that susceptibility to herpes recurrences is inherited. Research is under >> way >> to discover exactly how the triggering factors interact with the immune >> system and the virus to prompt a recurrence of fever blisters. >> Mike, You might had better notify the federal health department that >> vitamin >> C also causes canker sores, too, so they can add it to their list of >> causes. You will also need to know that the government presently says >> there is no known cure. >> I know differently. Of course if you do not believe it will work, what >> is >> the use in trying? >> I know Vitamin C therapy cures viral and bacterial infections. It does >> not cure fungal infections. If you cure a viral infection, does this >> mean >> you will never have it again? Of course not. If you get reinfected you >> are infected again, and it requires treatment once again. >> I would recommend to you to take vitamin C therapy to bowel tolerance for >> at least 5-7 days along with some zinc lozenges daily. I dare you to >> properly treat yourself. If you try it, it might work. If you do not >> try >> it, it definitely will not work. Let us know how it goes. Some people >> like to hang on to their illness, because it brings them some rewards. >> I definitely do not have any canker sores. I also do not believe that >> vitamin C causes your canker sores. Most creatures like to live, and >> when >> they are threatened they multiply. Small doses of vitamin C can probably >> threaten them. I highly recommend you not threaten them, but get rid of >> them for now at least. Just think, you might be cured in a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Distraction does not work with me. I have always found the all mighty dollar to be a great incentive. Of course I know others' doctors would not be tempted in the least by the money. After all didn't the doctors get into the business to treat and cure others and not make , I might say, an excellent living financially. I am sure the business concerns played no part in their motivation to become a doctor. Do you really believe that? I have no problem with a doctor who likes to make money as well as help others. In fact I think it is a good combination. Question regarding natural remedy for HBP >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am writing regarding my neighbor. She has been having a problem >>>>> with >>>>> her blood pressure since July of this year. Before then her pressure >>>>> was >>>>> normal to low and in July, she was bitten by something while on >>>>> vacation >>>>> and ever since then her blood pressure has been climbing. This >>>>> morning >>>>> it >>>>> was 166/91 upon waking. >>>>> >>>>> Her doctor gave her a prescription for a medication but she can't take >>>>> it >>>>> until the results of her blood work comes back. The medication >>>>> prescribed >>>>> says not to take it if you have thyroid or kidney problems and she >>>>> can't >>>>> start until she has the test results. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of any natural remedies that are helpful for lowering >>>>> blood pressure or of any websites she can go to for help? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Distraction does not work with me. I have always found the all mighty dollar to be a great incentive. Of course I know others' doctors would not be tempted in the least by the money. After all didn't the doctors get into the business to treat and cure others and not make , I might say, an excellent living financially. I am sure the business concerns played no part in their motivation to become a doctor. Do you really believe that? I have no problem with a doctor who likes to make money as well as help others. In fact I think it is a good combination. Question regarding natural remedy for HBP >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am writing regarding my neighbor. She has been having a problem >>>>> with >>>>> her blood pressure since July of this year. Before then her pressure >>>>> was >>>>> normal to low and in July, she was bitten by something while on >>>>> vacation >>>>> and ever since then her blood pressure has been climbing. This >>>>> morning >>>>> it >>>>> was 166/91 upon waking. >>>>> >>>>> Her doctor gave her a prescription for a medication but she can't take >>>>> it >>>>> until the results of her blood work comes back. The medication >>>>> prescribed >>>>> says not to take it if you have thyroid or kidney problems and she >>>>> can't >>>>> start until she has the test results. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of any natural remedies that are helpful for lowering >>>>> blood pressure or of any websites she can go to for help? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hmmm. Both my cardiologist and endocrinologist recommend that I take Vitamins, Vit. C and fish oil tabs (instead of Vit. E). The is a medication that I took when I had the shingles, but I don't remember the name. It did help the shingles go away more quickly, but it does not always work on everyone. I think because I diagnosed it quickly (the nursing background), I got treated quickly, sot hey didn't get too awful-they none the less lasted about 3 weeks and the shooting pain associated with them lasted a couple more weeks after the pustules went away. However, the docs do not make money on the medication-unless they own stock on the company that makes all the different medications they prescribe. It's the pharmacy companies that make all the money on the over-priced medications. I find it amazing that you can buy over the counter meds in Mexico that are exactly the same as the prescribed ones in the USA-and they cost 1/4 the price. I know people who drive to Tijuana to purchase large bottles of antibiotics just to keep on had for their families. (I don't really approve of this as they could endanger their lives by giving meds to themselves or their family without knowing what the antibiotic could do) the same is true of drugs from Canada. You might need a prescription for the drugs from Canada, but the cost is so much lower than the same thing in the USA. Re: Question regarding natural remedy for HBP Yes, some doctorrs do give it. It is mostly the doctors instructed by the AMA and drug representatives that do not use it at all. Medical doctors as a general rule will not prescribe any thing unless it is sanctioned as ethical medical practice by the AMA and their respective state's licensing board. The last time I looked I have never seen a recommendation for any vitamins in any quantities bby any medical association, federal or state government. In fact you and any doctor would bve hard pressed to find any research in any medical journal that reports any good research results using vitamins and minerals or nutritional therapy. There is plenty of good sound research to support vitamin therapies, but you will never see them in a medical journal. Do you wonder why? I do. It is a known fact that prescribing any thing other than drugs, surgery, radiation physical therapy and a few other toxic things are not profitable. In other words there is no money in it, that is prescribing vitamins. I urge you to seek out the research and read it. I know chicken pox and shingles is caused by a virus, and I also know there is a cure for it, but it is really cheap, I mean really cheap. In a word no money in it. Question regarding natural remedy for HBP >> >> >>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>> I am writing regarding my neighbor. She has been having a problem with >>> her blood pressure since July of this year. Before then her pressure >>> was >>> normal to low and in July, she was bitten by something while on vacation >>> and ever since then her blood pressure has been climbing. This morning >>> it >>> was 166/91 upon waking. >>> >>> Her doctor gave her a prescription for a medication but she can't take >>> it >>> until the results of her blood work comes back. The medication >>> prescribed >>> says not to take it if you have thyroid or kidney problems and she can't >>> start until she has the test results. >>> >>> Does anyone know of any natural remedies that are helpful for lowering >>> blood pressure or of any websites she can go to for help? >>> >>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hmmm. Both my cardiologist and endocrinologist recommend that I take Vitamins, Vit. C and fish oil tabs (instead of Vit. E). The is a medication that I took when I had the shingles, but I don't remember the name. It did help the shingles go away more quickly, but it does not always work on everyone. I think because I diagnosed it quickly (the nursing background), I got treated quickly, sot hey didn't get too awful-they none the less lasted about 3 weeks and the shooting pain associated with them lasted a couple more weeks after the pustules went away. However, the docs do not make money on the medication-unless they own stock on the company that makes all the different medications they prescribe. It's the pharmacy companies that make all the money on the over-priced medications. I find it amazing that you can buy over the counter meds in Mexico that are exactly the same as the prescribed ones in the USA-and they cost 1/4 the price. I know people who drive to Tijuana to purchase large bottles of antibiotics just to keep on had for their families. (I don't really approve of this as they could endanger their lives by giving meds to themselves or their family without knowing what the antibiotic could do) the same is true of drugs from Canada. You might need a prescription for the drugs from Canada, but the cost is so much lower than the same thing in the USA. Re: Question regarding natural remedy for HBP Yes, some doctorrs do give it. It is mostly the doctors instructed by the AMA and drug representatives that do not use it at all. Medical doctors as a general rule will not prescribe any thing unless it is sanctioned as ethical medical practice by the AMA and their respective state's licensing board. The last time I looked I have never seen a recommendation for any vitamins in any quantities bby any medical association, federal or state government. In fact you and any doctor would bve hard pressed to find any research in any medical journal that reports any good research results using vitamins and minerals or nutritional therapy. There is plenty of good sound research to support vitamin therapies, but you will never see them in a medical journal. Do you wonder why? I do. It is a known fact that prescribing any thing other than drugs, surgery, radiation physical therapy and a few other toxic things are not profitable. In other words there is no money in it, that is prescribing vitamins. I urge you to seek out the research and read it. I know chicken pox and shingles is caused by a virus, and I also know there is a cure for it, but it is really cheap, I mean really cheap. In a word no money in it. Question regarding natural remedy for HBP >> >> >>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>> I am writing regarding my neighbor. She has been having a problem with >>> her blood pressure since July of this year. Before then her pressure >>> was >>> normal to low and in July, she was bitten by something while on vacation >>> and ever since then her blood pressure has been climbing. This morning >>> it >>> was 166/91 upon waking. >>> >>> Her doctor gave her a prescription for a medication but she can't take >>> it >>> until the results of her blood work comes back. The medication >>> prescribed >>> says not to take it if you have thyroid or kidney problems and she can't >>> start until she has the test results. >>> >>> Does anyone know of any natural remedies that are helpful for lowering >>> blood pressure or of any websites she can go to for help? >>> >>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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