Re: Stopping Armour Abruptly and I continue to be miserable/Phil

December 3, 2006

Hi Phil,

You are in MI too? May I ask where abouts? I'm in the Saginaw area. I work

with a woman in nursing who used to work at Troy Beaumont. From listening to

her, Troy Beaumont is supposed to be quite a prestigous hospital. Good luck on

your appeal using BCBS. Basics...I always say our health should be about the

basics. (minerals, elements, hormones....seems most docs, sadly, don't know

what these are anymore)

Michigan

philip georgian wrote:

Hi and it was Troy Beaumont Hosp Troy MI. We call BCBS and put

in a complant it's still pending.

Phil

Z wrote:

If those ignorant ER docs would have looked Armour up in their drug books they

would have seen that YES INDEED too much Armour in the blood stream will cause a

person heart palpitations and tachycardia. I hope you didn't pay that bill.

Michigan

philip georgian wrote:

When my Wife switch from Synthroid to Armour she started at a low dose 30mgs in

4 weeks tested and the Dr. went to 6O mgs. in 4 more week after testing he went

to 120 and she ended up in the ER we though she was having a heart attack. We

told the ER that her Armour was raised and they said that will not do this.

After they did every test BCBS would pay for they told us they could not find

any thing wrong. This is the crap the ER does the next day she went to her Dr.

and he told her to stop the armour so she was on this for about a week and

stopped cold and she had not problems. It's too bad at the time the Dr. she was

seeing did not know about low Cortisol and Thyroid. Now that I find I have the

same problem here I am searching the web to help her and find I have the same

problem. It's in the Dr.'s Desk Reference Book to allway test Cortisol levels

first before treating thyroid because if your Cortisol levels are to low it can

kill you. Yet they don't do it.

Phil

KathyKate@... wrote:

3b. Re: stopping Armour abruptly

Posted by: " " florida_native222@... florida_native222

Date: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:01 am ((PST))

But what about the dangers of stopping Armour abruptly

even a small dose of 60mg.? Should I be concerned?

Kathleen in Ct. Here.

Hi all.

I stopped armour abruptly recently because of two trips to the ER and Val's

advise to stop all thyroid until my adrenals and cortisol started to build

up. I was only taking Armour for a year (three years before that on Levoxyl)

and I kept getting TSH's that were .08 with low average on T4 and T3.

After putting myself through too much stress being chairperson of a reunion

committee, I ended up in the ER twice with anxiety.

My endo started me on Cortisol and every time I took it, I would get a

thyroid dump from all the armour floating in my blood and it sent me into

anxiety

and to the ER. After two trips, Val and I decided (Val mostly) that I

should stop all thyroid until I build my cortisol or the armour lowered in my

blood.

It took two weeks to feel better and stop the jitters. Then my labs come

back that my TSH has gone from .08 to 99.1. Well the endo calls and tells

me to start up armour again. That didn't work out, still gave me terrible

jitters. So, I switched back onto Levoxyl for the last two weeks.

I have only got myself up to 7.5 to 10 mg of HC during the day and I went

from 25 mcg of levoxyl for one week and this week upp'd it to 50mcg. Well,

mistake. I have to up the HC if I am upping the Levoxyl.

So, I am back off Levoxyl for a while (2 days) until I lower it in my blood

to up the HC, then up the levoxyl. I had another jitter session this

morning and didn't go to the ER, but wanted to for a few hours. My blood

pressure went from 110/70 to 143/85 to 149/111 and it went like that for an hour

with temps of 99.6 to 100.

It all finally calmed down in two hours and the BP went back to 128/70.

The endo finally called at 7 p.m. this evening (about time) and he said, take

more cortisol. Whenever I feel jittery, don't take any more levoxyl, take

more cortisol. It is up to me how much and when

He doesn't give me help with timing or amounts and he hung up and told me to

stop whining.

I hate being like this. I really can't stand it.

Kathleen in CT

December 4, 2006

Hi I live in Rochester Hills BCBS Blue Preferred Plus has a contract with

BCBS and are not to bill us for what BSBC pays them and they did. So BSBC told

us not to pay them they are in a contract with Blue Preferred Plus and agreed to

the payment they get. I call this double billing they get payed from BCBS then

send you a bill if you pay it they got away with it. When we called them they

told us BCBS did not pay the bill I told them that is because BCBS is

investigating the tests they ran up for someone there on to much Thyroid Meds.

They said they made a mistake sending me the bill and to for get about it. I

feel BCBS at through the Big 3 union Auto co. is on them hard about this.

Phil

Z wrote:

Hi Phil,

You are in MI too? May I ask where abouts? I'm in the Saginaw area. I work with

a woman in nursing who used to work at Troy Beaumont. From listening to her,

Troy Beaumont is supposed to be quite a prestigous hospital. Good luck on your

appeal using BCBS. Basics...I always say our health should be about the basics.

(minerals, elements, hormones....seems most docs, sadly, don't know what these

are anymore)

Michigan

philip georgian wrote:

Hi and it was Troy Beaumont Hosp Troy MI. We call BCBS and put in a

complant it's still pending.