Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 In a message dated 05/12/2006 17:20:06 GMT Standard Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: so you would need to check right when you wake up, which is fasting sugar and about 2 hours after any meal. Two minds think alike - yet again lol You will have seen mu EBay post by now. So I have to stick myself first thing, lovely jubbly, I SO look forward to starting my day this way Is that 2 hours after any meal or after every meal Val? Thanks. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 In a message dated 05/12/2006 18:50:54 GMT Standard Time, jerry_barron@... writes: I use around 6 per day - one before every meal and one about an hour after every meal. You will use more in the beginning as you establish your routine. The reason for testing before and after meals is to get a good idea of how the food you are eating is affecting you. I am fairly militant about this though because I do not wish to die with diabetic complications. My last A1c was 5.3. BTW I use insulin to help with my meals. I am still making enough insulin that I am not having to inject basal only bolus. I am using novolog in a pen. Thanks Jerry I should say I am not actually diabetic, not yet anyway. I keep telling my doctor I feel I am on that slippery slope and he did agree, after much argument, to prescribe Metformin. When I looked into this more, it seems it is very hard on the liver and that put me off as I have liver issues. So I have been trying with PGX solubre fibre, cinnamon, Gourdin etc. hoping to lose some weight in the process to no avail. So now I am hoping that the reason I was not losing weight is because I have been accumulating water. Who knows? What is odd is that I had this weeing problem all summer when I was on a higher dose of Armour and h.c. It stopped when I lowered my doses of both. and recently I have increased both again and the weeing problem res reared its ugly heads. Any and all ideas very welcome. Before and after meals? OK, Thanks for that. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 In a message dated 05/12/2006 20:09:11 GMT Standard Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: Any meal will do as a screen uncles you see a problem then you can use it if you DO see one to learn exactly WHAT you are eating that might be causing it to go too high. Ok thanks for that. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Actually you can get them cheaper MUCH cheaper on Ebay! That is where I have been buying them. I am using about 10-15 a day but then I am adjusting insulin too so you would need to check right when you wake up, which is fasting sugar and about 2 hours after any meal. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 In a message dated 05/12/2006 21:49:38 GMT Standard Time, linnmiller@... writes: that number should be between 80-120, preferably under 100. When checking after meals, you want those numbers to be staying under 200. You may want to try checking also at 3 hours after a meal with no other food or drinks containing carbs consumed to make sure that your blood sugar is coming back down to what it should be after meals. 3 hours after a meal that number should be 80-120, again, under 100 is better. Thanks Linn I am SO looking forward to becoming a pin-cushion! The numbers are all v. new to me but I am sure I will get the hang of it. Thanks so much for your input. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I use around 6 per day - one before every meal and one about an hour after every meal. You will use more in the beginning as you establish your routine. The reason for testing before and after meals is to get a good idea of how the food you are eating is affecting you. I am fairly militant about this though because I do not wish to die with diabetic complications. My last A1c was 5.3. BTW I use insulin to help with my meals. I am still making enough insulin that I am not having to inject basal only bolus. I am using novolog in a pen. Jerry > > > I just rang the local Lloyds pharmacy and they do one for £9.39 with 10 free > strips. > After that it costs £25 for 50 strips. > Val, how many of these would I need to use per day. Quite a few I am > guessing? > > Mo > > > NOVA Counselling & Healing Services > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 >>Is that 2 hours after any meal or after every meal Val?<< Any meal will do as a screen uncles you see a problem then you can use it if you DO see one to learn exactly WHAT you are eating that might be causing it to go too high. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 >>My last A1c was 5.3.<< WOW I am impressed! My last one was 11.7.. OUCH, but that was 3 weeks after learning I was Diabetic with an A1c of 13.8. I bet mine is alot lower now. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Mo, You'll want to start by checking first thing in the morning when you wake up, that number should be between 80-120, preferably under 100. When checking after meals, you want those numbers to be staying under 200. You may want to try checking also at 3 hours after a meal with no other food or drinks containing carbs consumed to make sure that your blood sugar is coming back down to what it should be after meals. 3 hours after a meal that number should be 80-120, again, under 100 is better. Linn > > I should say I am not actually diabetic, not yet anyway. I keep > telling my > doctor I feel I am on that slippery slope and he did agree, after much > argument, to prescribe Metformin. When I looked into this more, it > seems it is very > hard on the liver and that put me off as I have liver issues. > So I have been trying with PGX solubre fibre, cinnamon, Gourdin > etc. hoping > to lose some weight in the process to no avail. > So now I am hoping that the reason I was not losing weight is > because I have > been accumulating water. Who knows? > What is odd is that I had this weeing problem all summer when I was > on a > higher dose of Armour and h.c. > It stopped when I lowered my doses of both. > and recently I have increased both again and the weeing problem res > reared > its ugly heads. > Any and all ideas very welcome. > Before and after meals? OK, > Thanks for that. > > Mo > > NOVA Counselling & Healing Services > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 In a message dated 06/12/2006 12:55:56 GMT Standard Time, jerry_barron@... writes: A1c above 6.3 What is an A1C Jerry? Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 In a message dated 06/12/2006 12:55:56 GMT Standard Time, jerry_barron@... writes: A1c above 6.3 What is an A1C Jerry? Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 In a message dated 06/12/2006 13:58:38 GMT Standard Time, jerry_barron@... writes: said, you can google A1c and find conversion charts that will indicate for a certain A1c what your average daily blood glucose is. Thanks Gerry, I wonder if it is the same test in the UK, I'll find out. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 In a message dated 06/12/2006 13:58:38 GMT Standard Time, jerry_barron@... writes: said, you can google A1c and find conversion charts that will indicate for a certain A1c what your average daily blood glucose is. Thanks Gerry, I wonder if it is the same test in the UK, I'll find out. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Respectfully and not wanting to start a flame war - I must disagree with you. 200 is way too high at any time. If you wish to keep away from diabetes complications, you will want no more than 140 after eating. If you have blood glucose of much more than that on a consistent basis then you should change your eating habits (eat lower carb) or your meds or both. Regardless of the blood glucose reading, studies have shown that, to avoid complications, your A1c should be below 6. These studies have shown that an A1c above 6.3 greatly increases your complications. Jerry > > Mo, > > You'll want to start by checking first thing in the morning when you > wake up, > that number should be between 80-120, preferably under 100. When > checking > after meals, you want those numbers to be staying under 200. You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Besides cinamon (doesn't need to be extract, it can be the good tasting powder mixed in coffee or tea) chromium also helps in insulin metabolism. Jerry > > Val, > > Do you take cinammon extract for your diabetes? Also, did you develop insulin resistance (weight gain around the middle) and deranged carbohydrate metabolism before you developed diabetes? This is what I am facing now. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 It is a blood test (they have to draw blood). It is really called a hemaglobin A1c and it tests the amount of glyconated hemoglobin in your blood. It turns out that a certain amount of your blood cells get glucose " stuck " to it that cannot be removed. Normal (none diabetic) people have an A1c of between 4.6 to 6 (some place the high range above that but are probably testing some unknown diabetics to get that range). Since your blood cells have an average life of about 3 months, the A1c is an indicator of what your average blood glucose have been over the last three months (somewhat weighted more to the last month). Doctors like this test because most diabetics to not test often enough for average daily blood glucose calculation to mean anything. That said, you can google A1c and find conversion charts that will indicate for a certain A1c what your average daily blood glucose is. Jerry > > > > In a message dated 06/12/2006 12:55:56 GMT Standard Time, > jerry_barron@... writes: > > A1c above 6.3 > > > What is an A1C Jerry? > > Mo > > NOVA Counselling & Healing Services > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 It is a blood test (they have to draw blood). It is really called a hemaglobin A1c and it tests the amount of glyconated hemoglobin in your blood. It turns out that a certain amount of your blood cells get glucose " stuck " to it that cannot be removed. Normal (none diabetic) people have an A1c of between 4.6 to 6 (some place the high range above that but are probably testing some unknown diabetics to get that range). Since your blood cells have an average life of about 3 months, the A1c is an indicator of what your average blood glucose have been over the last three months (somewhat weighted more to the last month). Doctors like this test because most diabetics to not test often enough for average daily blood glucose calculation to mean anything. That said, you can google A1c and find conversion charts that will indicate for a certain A1c what your average daily blood glucose is. Jerry > > > > In a message dated 06/12/2006 12:55:56 GMT Standard Time, > jerry_barron@... writes: > > A1c above 6.3 > > > What is an A1C Jerry? > > Mo > > NOVA Counselling & Healing Services > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Jerry, Don't worry, no problem. What I meant was you have a real problem if it's going over 200. Depending on what you would eat though, many, many people would have a reading like that. Plus I'm coming from the perspective of a Type 1 diabetic, you will always see higher numbers after eating with a Type 1, synthetic insulin is great but it doesn't work as fast or as efficiently as the real thing when you have no functional islet cells. Through in complications like thyroid disease, Celiac, etc. and it'll make a big difference in your numbers. Linn > Respectfully and not wanting to start a flame war - I must disagree > with you. 200 is way too high at any time. If you wish to keep away > from diabetes complications, you will want no more than 140 after > eating. If you have blood glucose of much more than that on a > consistent basis then you should change your eating habits (eat lower > carb) or your meds or both. > > Regardless of the blood glucose reading, studies have shown that, to > avoid complications, your A1c should be below 6. These studies have > shown that an A1c above 6.3 greatly increases your complications. > > Jerry > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Jerry, Don't worry, no problem. What I meant was you have a real problem if it's going over 200. Depending on what you would eat though, many, many people would have a reading like that. Plus I'm coming from the perspective of a Type 1 diabetic, you will always see higher numbers after eating with a Type 1, synthetic insulin is great but it doesn't work as fast or as efficiently as the real thing when you have no functional islet cells. Through in complications like thyroid disease, Celiac, etc. and it'll make a big difference in your numbers. Linn > Respectfully and not wanting to start a flame war - I must disagree > with you. 200 is way too high at any time. If you wish to keep away > from diabetes complications, you will want no more than 140 after > eating. If you have blood glucose of much more than that on a > consistent basis then you should change your eating habits (eat lower > carb) or your meds or both. > > Regardless of the blood glucose reading, studies have shown that, to > avoid complications, your A1c should be below 6. These studies have > shown that an A1c above 6.3 greatly increases your complications. > > Jerry > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 It can also be done via a finger prick, just takes a little more blood than a glucose reading. It's the sugar molecules that attach to the oxygenated red blood cells. It gives a broader picture of how well your blood sugar is being controlled but it also give a better picture of what you're eating. If you are eating foods that are higher carb or sugars your A1C is going to be higher, no matter how well you control the blood sugar. For instance my daughter's BG readings can go into the high 300's if you check her within 1-2 hours of eating, but as long as we are very careful with her diet, her A1C will be 6.0 or below. It takes a full 3 hours with no food for an accurate reading for her BG. My A1C is extremely low, in fact my doctor was quite pleased, said she hardly ever sees that, but I haven't eaten sugar and have been on a high protein, low carb diet for over 25 years. Linn > It is a blood test (they have to draw blood). It is really called a > hemaglobin A1c and it tests the amount of glyconated hemoglobin in > your blood. It turns out that a certain amount of your blood cells get > glucose " stuck " to it that cannot be removed. Normal (none diabetic) > people have an A1c of between 4.6 to 6 (some place the high range > above that but are probably testing some unknown diabetics to get that > range). Since your blood cells have an average life of about 3 months, > the A1c is an indicator of what your average blood glucose have been > over the last three months (somewhat weighted more to the last month). > Doctors like this test because most diabetics to not test often enough > for average daily blood glucose calculation to mean anything. That > said, you can google A1c and find conversion charts that will indicate > for a certain A1c what your average daily blood glucose is. > > Jerry > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 It can also be done via a finger prick, just takes a little more blood than a glucose reading. It's the sugar molecules that attach to the oxygenated red blood cells. It gives a broader picture of how well your blood sugar is being controlled but it also give a better picture of what you're eating. If you are eating foods that are higher carb or sugars your A1C is going to be higher, no matter how well you control the blood sugar. For instance my daughter's BG readings can go into the high 300's if you check her within 1-2 hours of eating, but as long as we are very careful with her diet, her A1C will be 6.0 or below. It takes a full 3 hours with no food for an accurate reading for her BG. My A1C is extremely low, in fact my doctor was quite pleased, said she hardly ever sees that, but I haven't eaten sugar and have been on a high protein, low carb diet for over 25 years. Linn > It is a blood test (they have to draw blood). It is really called a > hemaglobin A1c and it tests the amount of glyconated hemoglobin in > your blood. It turns out that a certain amount of your blood cells get > glucose " stuck " to it that cannot be removed. Normal (none diabetic) > people have an A1c of between 4.6 to 6 (some place the high range > above that but are probably testing some unknown diabetics to get that > range). Since your blood cells have an average life of about 3 months, > the A1c is an indicator of what your average blood glucose have been > over the last three months (somewhat weighted more to the last month). > Doctors like this test because most diabetics to not test often enough > for average daily blood glucose calculation to mean anything. That > said, you can google A1c and find conversion charts that will indicate > for a certain A1c what your average daily blood glucose is. > > Jerry > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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