Re: New Labs Suppressed TSH and Hypo

[Guest guest]

I think your Dr. is saying your hyper because you TSH is so low next time you

see him tell him on Armour as you get balanced the TSH goes down because you

have Armour in your blood and the brain sees this and stops sending TSH to the

Thyroid. This is Thyriod 101. My wifes Dr. did the same thing I was there and

told him this and he just walked out of the room that was it for us got a better

Dr. here read this link.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm

Phil

sophieboris wrote:

I have new labs and need some input.

Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now on

3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my adrenal

glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years now and

my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She doesn't know

what to do.

I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I guess

I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here. I

posted for over at STTM site.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your help,

a in North Idaho

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Well obviously your doctor is going solely on the TSH cause your thyroid

hormones are showing very hypo. I would point out ot her that TSH is a

pituitary hormone and with it this low and low thyroid hormones

something is definityl wrong. I do not know what tests to tell you to

ask for for pituitary fuinction, but I am sure will when he gets

back online. I would get that checked out as if you continue to be

treated using the TSH you will get sicker and sicker from being too

hypothyroid.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks you guys. I will see what says but I am very hypo and it

is so frustrating because it happens so slowly. I should know better

because I have been here so many times and I am very angry. It sneeks

up on you and the brain fog is so slow you don't realize it until you

are too far gone. My final clue was when I noticed I couldn't see

very well. That has only happened to me when I was very hypo.

Crap...I actually lost 2 pounds in August because I was feeling so

good. My Free T's were in the middle of the range. I had lost 65

pounds in the last 3 years and kept it off. I have gained 9 pounds in

2 months without changing a thing. Except going from 4 grains down to

3. I spent the day in bed on Tuesday in tears. Haven't done that in

a long time.

My husband says my biggest problem is that I was raised by a doctor.

I am a doctor's daughter so I still have some hope that these damn

doctors can help me. I obviously have something else going on but none

of the doctors have enough brains to figure it out. I need the

doctors to get the proper tests ordered. Rock and a hard place.

Very frustrating and I should know better.

Ok, one more question...when I became very sick with Hashimoto's I was

having terrible ups and downs. The doctor said I was bi-polar and put

me on Lithium. Suppresses the thyroid like you wouldn't believe. He

didn't test my thyroid functions which is the first thing you do

before putting someone on Lithium. I was on it for 4 months at the

max dose. My husband made me flush the whole bottle down the toilet

then he drove me to the emergency room. They figured it out finally.

My TSH was off the scale and I am sure it was off the scale for quite

a while. What I am wondering is if that some how could have damaged

my pituitary and it is just showing up now? Like having our adrenals

overtaxed for so long that they begin to malfunction. Maybe my

pituitary is next.

I really don't have a lot of symptoms of hypopituitaryism (sp?)so I

have my doubts. I read the site that Phil posted and it talks about

being thyroid hormone resistant but it doesn't really say how to test

for that. I don't have antibodies anymore, they have done their

damage and are now gone. The fate of all of us Hashimoto folks given

enough time. With that, I know that the antibodies are not fouling me up.

Just some random thoughts and frustrations.

a in North Idaho

>

> Well obviously your doctor is going solely on the TSH cause your

thyroid

> hormones are showing very hypo. I would point out ot her that TSH is a

> pituitary hormone and with it this low and low thyroid hormones

> something is definityl wrong. I do not know what tests to tell you to

> ask for for pituitary fuinction, but I am sure will when he gets

> back online. I would get that checked out as if you continue to be

> treated using the TSH you will get sicker and sicker from being too

> hypothyroid.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

> http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks you guys. I will see what says but I am very hypo and it

is so frustrating because it happens so slowly. I should know better

because I have been here so many times and I am very angry. It sneeks

up on you and the brain fog is so slow you don't realize it until you

are too far gone. My final clue was when I noticed I couldn't see

very well. That has only happened to me when I was very hypo.

Crap...I actually lost 2 pounds in August because I was feeling so

good. My Free T's were in the middle of the range. I had lost 65

pounds in the last 3 years and kept it off. I have gained 9 pounds in

2 months without changing a thing. Except going from 4 grains down to

3. I spent the day in bed on Tuesday in tears. Haven't done that in

a long time.

My husband says my biggest problem is that I was raised by a doctor.

I am a doctor's daughter so I still have some hope that these damn

doctors can help me. I obviously have something else going on but none

of the doctors have enough brains to figure it out. I need the

doctors to get the proper tests ordered. Rock and a hard place.

Very frustrating and I should know better.

Ok, one more question...when I became very sick with Hashimoto's I was

having terrible ups and downs. The doctor said I was bi-polar and put

me on Lithium. Suppresses the thyroid like you wouldn't believe. He

didn't test my thyroid functions which is the first thing you do

before putting someone on Lithium. I was on it for 4 months at the

max dose. My husband made me flush the whole bottle down the toilet

then he drove me to the emergency room. They figured it out finally.

My TSH was off the scale and I am sure it was off the scale for quite

a while. What I am wondering is if that some how could have damaged

my pituitary and it is just showing up now? Like having our adrenals

overtaxed for so long that they begin to malfunction. Maybe my

pituitary is next.

I really don't have a lot of symptoms of hypopituitaryism (sp?)so I

have my doubts. I read the site that Phil posted and it talks about

being thyroid hormone resistant but it doesn't really say how to test

for that. I don't have antibodies anymore, they have done their

damage and are now gone. The fate of all of us Hashimoto folks given

enough time. With that, I know that the antibodies are not fouling me up.

Just some random thoughts and frustrations.

a in North Idaho

>

> Well obviously your doctor is going solely on the TSH cause your

thyroid

> hormones are showing very hypo. I would point out ot her that TSH is a

> pituitary hormone and with it this low and low thyroid hormones

> something is definityl wrong. I do not know what tests to tell you to

> ask for for pituitary fuinction, but I am sure will when he gets

> back online. I would get that checked out as if you continue to be

> treated using the TSH you will get sicker and sicker from being too

> hypothyroid.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

> http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

My doctor does that, too - freaks over low TSH and tells me to reduce. I have

told him I won't reduce unless he proves to me that the Free T3 & T4 are high!

Joyce

philip georgian wrote:

I think your Dr. is saying your hyper because you TSH is so low next

time you see him tell him on Armour as you get balanced the TSH goes down

because you have Armour in your blood and the brain sees this and stops sending

TSH to the Thyroid. This is Thyriod 101. My wifes Dr. did the same thing I was

there and told him this and he just walked out of the room that was it for us

got a better Dr. here read this link.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm

Phil

sophieboris wrote:

I have new labs and need some input.

Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now on

3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my adrenal

glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years now and

my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She doesn't know

what to do.

I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I guess

I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here. I

posted for over at STTM site.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your help,

a in North Idaho

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[Guest guest]

My doctor does that, too - freaks over low TSH and tells me to reduce. I have

told him I won't reduce unless he proves to me that the Free T3 & T4 are high!

Joyce

philip georgian wrote:

I think your Dr. is saying your hyper because you TSH is so low next

time you see him tell him on Armour as you get balanced the TSH goes down

because you have Armour in your blood and the brain sees this and stops sending

TSH to the Thyroid. This is Thyriod 101. My wifes Dr. did the same thing I was

there and told him this and he just walked out of the room that was it for us

got a better Dr. here read this link.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm

Phil

sophieboris wrote:

I have new labs and need some input.

Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now on

3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my adrenal

glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years now and

my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She doesn't know

what to do.

I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I guess

I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here. I

posted for over at STTM site.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your help,

a in North Idaho

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From what I read in this link you can go by blood tests if you have Hashimoto’s

Thyroiditis here is the link and a cut & paste.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm

Phil

“Back up a minute...Didn’t you say I had Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis? Don’t you

need to follow my blood counts every three months like the other doctors have

been doing?”

“These blood tests – they don’t work for you. They didn’t help you over the last

15 years you’ve been having problems, even when your problems became worse over

the last two. It is because these thyroid antibodies variably bind up the

hormones you have. There is no way to tell how much thyroid hormone you need

based upon blood tests.”

’s eyes were rolling back into her head and her mouth was sagging open.

She obviously needed more of an explanation. “Let’s try another analogy. When a

traffic helicopter flies overhead, it sees all the cars on the road – and says,

‘There’s plenty of transportation to take people around the city.’ But what if a

meter maid noticed they didn’t pay their parking tickets and put a red parking

boot on some of them. They wouldn’t be able to go anywhere. In order to have

enough transportation for the city – you might need twice as many cars.

Unfortunately – there is no way to know how vicious that meter maid is – we just

know that she is there. There is no way to know how much of a negative effect

those thyroid antibodies are having, we just know that they are there. The

presence of thyroid antibodies throws off every thyroid test, including the

TSH.”

was exasperated. Slumping back in her chair, “Then how will I ever know

how much medicine to be on?”

“You forgot, there is one more type of testing that will be most effective for

you.” became interested again and leaned forward. “We should test the

effect that thyroid hormones have on your body. With hormone resistance, it is

often easier and more effective to test the function of the hormone, not the

actual level. This idea isn’t new. In Type II Diabetes, we know there is insulin

hormone resistance. We don’t check insulin levels – we check what it does by

monitoring your blood sugar levels. There are many different types of thyroid

hormone resistance. In addition to the Reverse T3 phenomenon and Thyroid

Antibodies, some people are deficient of essential fatty acids or other

vitamins, limiting thyroid hormone’s ability to get into the brain or other

cells to have its full effect.9,10 We just have to check what thyroid hormone

does in your body.

“Though active thyroid hormone is needed to lower cholesterol and blood

pressure, to raise blood sugar when hypoglycemic, and to convert beta-carotene

into Vitamin A, there is no specific blood test to show whether thyroid hormone

is working properly or not. Dr. Broda , MD, PhD, who wrote one of the

first books on hypothyroidism, ‘Hypothyroidism: the unsuspected illness,'

described a simple temperature test using a mercury thermometer.11 Mercury

thermometers are more accurate than digital ones, and because they are hard to

find nowadays, I’ll sell one to you for a dollar (that’s all they cost me). Here

is a handout to describe how to do the test.

sophieboris wrote:

Thanks you guys. I will see what says but I am very hypo and it

is so frustrating because it happens so slowly. I should know better

because I have been here so many times and I am very angry. It sneeks

up on you and the brain fog is so slow you don't realize it until you

are too far gone. My final clue was when I noticed I couldn't see

very well. That has only happened to me when I was very hypo.

Crap...I actually lost 2 pounds in August because I was feeling so

good. My Free T's were in the middle of the range. I had lost 65

pounds in the last 3 years and kept it off. I have gained 9 pounds in

2 months without changing a thing. Except going from 4 grains down to

3. I spent the day in bed on Tuesday in tears. Haven't done that in

a long time.

My husband says my biggest problem is that I was raised by a doctor.

I am a doctor's daughter so I still have some hope that these damn

doctors can help me. I obviously have something else going on but none

of the doctors have enough brains to figure it out. I need the

doctors to get the proper tests ordered. Rock and a hard place.

Very frustrating and I should know better.

Ok, one more question...when I became very sick with Hashimoto's I was

having terrible ups and downs. The doctor said I was bi-polar and put

me on Lithium. Suppresses the thyroid like you wouldn't believe. He

didn't test my thyroid functions which is the first thing you do

before putting someone on Lithium. I was on it for 4 months at the

max dose. My husband made me flush the whole bottle down the toilet

then he drove me to the emergency room. They figured it out finally.

My TSH was off the scale and I am sure it was off the scale for quite

a while. What I am wondering is if that some how could have damaged

my pituitary and it is just showing up now? Like having our adrenals

overtaxed for so long that they begin to malfunction. Maybe my

pituitary is next.

I really don't have a lot of symptoms of hypopituitaryism (sp?)so I

have my doubts. I read the site that Phil posted and it talks about

being thyroid hormone resistant but it doesn't really say how to test

for that. I don't have antibodies anymore, they have done their

damage and are now gone. The fate of all of us Hashimoto folks given

enough time. With that, I know that the antibodies are not fouling me up.

Just some random thoughts and frustrations.

a in North Idaho

>

> Well obviously your doctor is going solely on the TSH cause your

thyroid

> hormones are showing very hypo. I would point out ot her that TSH is a

> pituitary hormone and with it this low and low thyroid hormones

> something is definityl wrong. I do not know what tests to tell you to

> ask for for pituitary fuinction, but I am sure will when he gets

> back online. I would get that checked out as if you continue to be

> treated using the TSH you will get sicker and sicker from being too

> hypothyroid.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

> http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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[Guest guest]

From what I read in this link you can go by blood tests if you have Hashimoto’s

Thyroiditis here is the link and a cut & paste.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm

Phil

“Back up a minute...Didn’t you say I had Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis? Don’t you

need to follow my blood counts every three months like the other doctors have

been doing?”

“These blood tests – they don’t work for you. They didn’t help you over the last

15 years you’ve been having problems, even when your problems became worse over

the last two. It is because these thyroid antibodies variably bind up the

hormones you have. There is no way to tell how much thyroid hormone you need

based upon blood tests.”

’s eyes were rolling back into her head and her mouth was sagging open.

She obviously needed more of an explanation. “Let’s try another analogy. When a

traffic helicopter flies overhead, it sees all the cars on the road – and says,

‘There’s plenty of transportation to take people around the city.’ But what if a

meter maid noticed they didn’t pay their parking tickets and put a red parking

boot on some of them. They wouldn’t be able to go anywhere. In order to have

enough transportation for the city – you might need twice as many cars.

Unfortunately – there is no way to know how vicious that meter maid is – we just

know that she is there. There is no way to know how much of a negative effect

those thyroid antibodies are having, we just know that they are there. The

presence of thyroid antibodies throws off every thyroid test, including the

TSH.”

was exasperated. Slumping back in her chair, “Then how will I ever know

how much medicine to be on?”

“You forgot, there is one more type of testing that will be most effective for

you.” became interested again and leaned forward. “We should test the

effect that thyroid hormones have on your body. With hormone resistance, it is

often easier and more effective to test the function of the hormone, not the

actual level. This idea isn’t new. In Type II Diabetes, we know there is insulin

hormone resistance. We don’t check insulin levels – we check what it does by

monitoring your blood sugar levels. There are many different types of thyroid

hormone resistance. In addition to the Reverse T3 phenomenon and Thyroid

Antibodies, some people are deficient of essential fatty acids or other

vitamins, limiting thyroid hormone’s ability to get into the brain or other

cells to have its full effect.9,10 We just have to check what thyroid hormone

does in your body.

“Though active thyroid hormone is needed to lower cholesterol and blood

pressure, to raise blood sugar when hypoglycemic, and to convert beta-carotene

into Vitamin A, there is no specific blood test to show whether thyroid hormone

is working properly or not. Dr. Broda , MD, PhD, who wrote one of the

first books on hypothyroidism, ‘Hypothyroidism: the unsuspected illness,'

described a simple temperature test using a mercury thermometer.11 Mercury

thermometers are more accurate than digital ones, and because they are hard to

find nowadays, I’ll sell one to you for a dollar (that’s all they cost me). Here

is a handout to describe how to do the test.

sophieboris wrote:

Thanks you guys. I will see what says but I am very hypo and it

is so frustrating because it happens so slowly. I should know better

because I have been here so many times and I am very angry. It sneeks

up on you and the brain fog is so slow you don't realize it until you

are too far gone. My final clue was when I noticed I couldn't see

very well. That has only happened to me when I was very hypo.

Crap...I actually lost 2 pounds in August because I was feeling so

good. My Free T's were in the middle of the range. I had lost 65

pounds in the last 3 years and kept it off. I have gained 9 pounds in

2 months without changing a thing. Except going from 4 grains down to

3. I spent the day in bed on Tuesday in tears. Haven't done that in

a long time.

My husband says my biggest problem is that I was raised by a doctor.

I am a doctor's daughter so I still have some hope that these damn

doctors can help me. I obviously have something else going on but none

of the doctors have enough brains to figure it out. I need the

doctors to get the proper tests ordered. Rock and a hard place.

Very frustrating and I should know better.

Ok, one more question...when I became very sick with Hashimoto's I was

having terrible ups and downs. The doctor said I was bi-polar and put

me on Lithium. Suppresses the thyroid like you wouldn't believe. He

didn't test my thyroid functions which is the first thing you do

before putting someone on Lithium. I was on it for 4 months at the

max dose. My husband made me flush the whole bottle down the toilet

then he drove me to the emergency room. They figured it out finally.

My TSH was off the scale and I am sure it was off the scale for quite

a while. What I am wondering is if that some how could have damaged

my pituitary and it is just showing up now? Like having our adrenals

overtaxed for so long that they begin to malfunction. Maybe my

pituitary is next.

I really don't have a lot of symptoms of hypopituitaryism (sp?)so I

have my doubts. I read the site that Phil posted and it talks about

being thyroid hormone resistant but it doesn't really say how to test

for that. I don't have antibodies anymore, they have done their

damage and are now gone. The fate of all of us Hashimoto folks given

enough time. With that, I know that the antibodies are not fouling me up.

Just some random thoughts and frustrations.

a in North Idaho

>

> Well obviously your doctor is going solely on the TSH cause your

thyroid

> hormones are showing very hypo. I would point out ot her that TSH is a

> pituitary hormone and with it this low and low thyroid hormones

> something is definityl wrong. I do not know what tests to tell you to

> ask for for pituitary fuinction, but I am sure will when he gets

> back online. I would get that checked out as if you continue to be

> treated using the TSH you will get sicker and sicker from being too

> hypothyroid.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

> http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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[Guest guest]

Your doctor is wrong. She is confusing what a body does when

producing its own hormone naturally with the effects of what happens

when you supply the body with hormone from the outside.

Your TSH naturally supresses when you are supplying your body with

thyroid hormone. If you have thyroid hormone in your bloodstream,

there is no reason for the pituitary gland to ask the thyroid to

produce more. TSH is a measure of a pituitary hormone, not a thyroid

hormone.

Your free T3 & free T4 are still on the bottom of the ranges. You

should at least get those up to the upper 1/3, or to a point where

you feel better. If you don't feel hyper, you aren't hyper, despite

how the doctor wants to interpret numbers on a piece of paper. You

feel worse since you lowered your dose because you are not getting

enough thyroid hormone.

You should keep raising your Armour dose slowly until you get back to

where you feel better again.

> I have new labs and need some input.

> Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

> Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

> TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

>

> In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now

on 3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

> scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

> lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

>

> Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

> symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

> should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

> fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my

adrenal glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years

now and my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She

doesn't know what to do.

>

> I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I

guess I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here.

I posted for over at STTM site. Any ideas?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> a in North Idaho

>

[Guest guest]

It is sad the stores I have read on the net Thyroid is new to me but I have been

helping men on the boards for low testosterone and find the same thing a guy

will get his testosterone tested the test will come back at 300 the range is 262

to 1593 the Dum Dr. will tell the 26 yr. old man he is ok his levels are in the

normal range and you don't needed treatment here take this Prozac. Yet his

levels are normal for a man 90 yrs old. I have been sick with low testosterone

for over 23 yrs and was always told it was my testis can't make enough

testosterone called Primary. Now this yr. I find out they at least 12 of the

were wrong. I am Hypopituitary so this is way I have low testosterone and now I

am treating my low DHEA, Cortisol, Thyroid, IGF-1 and Glucose. It's odd Dr.'s

don't want to keep up on new info my labs were screaming a Pituitary problem for

over 23 yrs they did the right tests just did not take the time to read them.

Have you read Gals web site this is sad.

Go down to the ADDENDUM near the bottom and read her letter to Oprah Winfrey.

http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/

Phil

Joyce B wrote: My doctor does that, too -

freaks over low TSH and tells me to reduce. I have told him I won't reduce

unless he proves to me that the Free T3 & T4 are high!

Joyce

philip georgian wrote:

I think your Dr. is saying your hyper because you TSH is so low next time you

see him tell him on Armour as you get balanced the TSH goes down because you

have Armour in your blood and the brain sees this and stops sending TSH to the

Thyroid. This is Thyriod 101. My wifes Dr. did the same thing I was there and

told him this and he just walked out of the room that was it for us got a better

Dr. here read this link.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/woliner.htm

Phil

sophieboris wrote:

I have new labs and need some input.

Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now on

3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my adrenal

glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years now and

my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She doesn't know

what to do.

I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I guess

I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here. I

posted for over at STTM site.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your help,

a in North Idaho

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Phil,

That was an amazing web site that you just posted. I learned a lot!

I thought I knew a lot about thyroid but let me tell you, this woman

did her research. My story similar to hers. Thanks for posting that.

a in North Idaho

> I have new labs and need some input.

>

> Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

> Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

> TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

>

> In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now on

> 3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

> scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

> lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

>

> Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

> symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

> should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

> fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my adrenal

> glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years now and

> my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She doesn't know

> what to do.

>

> I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I guess

> I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here. I

> posted for over at STTM site.

> Any ideas?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> a in North Idaho

>

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I know it is dam sad that someone has to go through this to get the right

treatment. My heart went out to her.

Phil

sophieboris wrote:

Phil,

That was an amazing web site that you just posted. I learned a lot!

I thought I knew a lot about thyroid but let me tell you, this woman

did her research. My story similar to hers. Thanks for posting that.

a in North Idaho

> I have new labs and need some input.

>

> Free T3 2.6 (2.3-4.2)

> Free T4 0.8 (0.7-1.5)

> TSH 0.01 (0.40-5.00)

>

> In July my TSH was 0.02 and I was on 4 grains of Armour. I am now on

> 3 grains with these labs. My free T's were a little higher on the

> scale but not much. My doc said I was hypermetobolic and I had to

> lower my dose. Haven't felt well since.

>

> Should I be concerned that I am still extremely hypo (tons of

> symptoms) and I have such a suppressed TSH? I am wondering if I

> should be having my pituitary checked out? I have stage 7 adrenal

> fatigue and take HC plus Florinef. So...what I do know is my adrenal

> glands are shot, my thyroid gland has been shot for 12 years now and

> my doc is freaking out because of my suppressed TSH. She doesn't know

> what to do.

>

> I am raising my thyroid dose by myself so I can feel better. I guess

> I am just concerned that I may have hypopituitary issues here. I

> posted for over at STTM site.

> Any ideas?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> a in North Idaho

>

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