Re: flu shot-more stuff in the body?

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue, It's ultimately your decision, but personally, I never get flu shots. My company offers them for free, and one year nearly half the company was out sick a day or two after receiving the shot. They said we got a "bad batch." That's not why I don't get them, though; I just think they're unnecessary. Here are a couple of links if you're interested. From Dr. Weil: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785 and from Dr. Mercola: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785 __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I am diabetic so the flu shot isn't really optional for me, its one of those things that I have to have. I can tell you that I have had the flu twice in my life. Once after the flu shot and once without the flu shot. Getting influenza when you have had the flu shot is so much less intense that the flu shot is really worth it. I ended up in the hospital after having influenza without the shot. It truly can be life threatening.. My experience has been that the shot is worth it. Just my .02 cents Lia wrote: This may seem pretty off-topic,

but just doing this I.E. journey for the last few months has made me so much more aware of what I am putting in my body. I just had another (the third) cortisone shot in my foot this week and now they are offering flu shots at work. I don't think that I want to put any more "stuff" into my body...anybody struggling with getting the shot or not? Sue See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I have never had a flu shot. Every year I might get a minor cold, but nothing that isn't manageable. I don't like the idea of putting a virus into my body. That's basically what they do so you supposedly become immune. But every year, you hear of a new type of flu virus that rears it's ugly head and makes everyone so fearful. I can see the elderly or people that already have lung problems and if they get the flu, it could be really serious, but I myself am really against it.

--Alana

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Hi Sue,

It's ultimately your decision, but personally, I never get flu shots. My company offers them for free, and one year nearly half the company was out sick a day or two after receiving the shot. They said we got a "bad batch." That's not why I don't get them, though; I just think they're unnecessary. Here are a couple of links if you're interested.

From Dr. Weil:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785

and from Dr. Mercola:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

From someone who also used to think they were unnecessary, I

offer a different experience…

Last year, I got the flu…and I realized that I have never

had it (at least in my memory as an adult). The flu is very different than a

cold, and it knocked me out for 2 weeks and I felt lousy for a total of 6

weeks. It’s absolutely miserable.

Being self-employed, I am now always going to get a flu shot.

While I was able to work some while being sick, I was miserable and it took all

my energy to complete the simplest tasks.

I got the flu after taking an airplane trip. I’m convinced

someone on the plane had the flu and passed it along.

So, I’m a convert to the flu shot…I’d rather

not go through that again!!

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Subject: Re: flu shot-more stuff in the body?

Hi Sue,

It's ultimately your decision, but personally, I never get

flu shots. My company offers them for free, and one year nearly half

the company was out sick a day or two after receiving the shot. They

said we got a " bad batch. " That's not why I don't get

them, though; I just think they're unnecessary. Here are a couple of

links if you're interested.

From Dr. Weil:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785

and from Dr. Mercola:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Like you, IE for me has a lot to do with chosing what is beneficial. I have no

intention of

geting a flu shot, either.

>

> This may seem pretty off-topic, but just doing this I.E. journey for the last

> few months has made me so much more aware of what I am putting in my body. I

> just had another (the third) cortisone shot in my foot this week and now they

> are offering flu shots at work. I don't think that I want to put any more

> " stuff " into my body...anybody struggling with getting the shot or not?

>

> Sue

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

>

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that the 'flu' virus mutates pretty often so the

innoculation you are receiving is likely not to be the particular

variation that is going round for you to catch anyway? Heck who would

really know if you are getting a real innoculation or a shot of saline

water?? In fact as far as that goes, I would rather 'dose' up on

vitamin C & D than get a shot.

>

> This may seem pretty off-topic, but just doing this I.E. journey for

the last

> few months has made me so much more aware of what I am putting in my

body. I

> just had another (the third) cortisone shot in my foot this week and

now they

> are offering flu shots at work. I don't think that I want to put

any more

> " stuff " into my body...anybody struggling with getting the shot or not?

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

There is still a part of me that wonders if the flu shot, which is one

of the few that still contains thimerosol, contributed to my kids'

autism. I know it hasn't been proven, and it's controversial, and I

will continue to get my kids immunized against everything else. But I

can't help but wonder, what if we had foregone the flu shots?

>

> This may seem pretty off-topic, but just doing this I.E. journey for

the last

> few months has made me so much more aware of what I am putting in my

body. I

> just had another (the third) cortisone shot in my foot this week and

now they

> are offering flu shots at work. I don't think that I want to put

any more

> " stuff " into my body...anybody struggling with getting the shot or not?

>

> Sue

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's new at

http://www.aol.com

>

[Guest guest]

There have been times when the flu shot seemed to help me...but the last time after I had a flu shot I was very seriously sick from it and I have never taken it again....it took me three months to get over that sickness and I already have health issues....some I do not believe in it anymore.alyzu1 wrote: There is still a part of me that wonders if the flu shot, which is oneof the few that still contains thimerosol, contributed to my kids'autism. I know it hasn't been proven, and it's controversial, and Iwill continue to

get my kids immunized against everything else. But Ican't help but wonder, what if we had foregone the flu shots?>> This may seem pretty off-topic, but just doing this I.E. journey forthe last > few months has made me so much more aware of what I am putting in mybody. I > just had another (the third) cortisone shot in my foot this week andnow they > are offering flu shots at work. I don't think that I want to putany more > "stuff" into my body...anybody struggling with getting the shot or not?> > Sue > > > > ************************************** See what's new athttp://www.aol.com>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, good questions are being asked about such things. I do hope you

don't beat yourself over having had these given to your kids - it was

the best decision at that time. Plus look at the resurgence of so many

diseases like TB and polio that have happened since immigrants have

been allowed in without excellent health. We took it for granted that

most childhood diseases such as mumps, measles and chickenpox were

'gone' and now they are returning.

>

> There is still a part of me that wonders if the flu shot, which is one

> of the few that still contains thimerosol, contributed to my kids'

> autism. I know it hasn't been proven, and it's controversial, and I

> will continue to get my kids immunized against everything else. But I

> can't help but wonder, what if we had foregone the flu shots?

[Guest guest]

It definitely depends on where you are health wise. I have to get the

flu shot every year. I have asthma and the years I did not get the flu

shot - I was tremendously sick. For me it's too much of a risk, not to

get the flu shot.

Also - it is a precautionary thing... A lot of people do get flu

symptoms with it but can avoid the flu when it does come around. A few

years ago, I was the only one in my group of co-works to get the shot

and the only one who wasn't out sick for a week and still feeling sick

for over 2 weeks when the flu hit our office.

I personally would rather 1-2 days of symptoms than the full thing

that could lead to worse problems with my lungs.

>

> I have never had a flu shot. Every year I might get a minor cold,

but nothing that isn't manageable. I don't like the idea of putting a

virus into my body. That's basically what they do so you supposedly

become immune. But every year, you hear of a new type of flu virus

that rears it's ugly head and makes everyone so fearful. I can see

the elderly or people that already have lung problems and if they get

the flu, it could be really serious, but I myself am really against it.

>

> --

> Alana

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

> Hi Sue,

> It's ultimately your decision, but personally, I never get flu

shots. My company offers them for free, and one year nearly half the

company was out sick a day or two after receiving the shot. They said

we got a " bad batch. " That's not why I don't get them, though; I just

think they're unnecessary. Here are a couple of links if you're

interested.

>

> From Dr. Weil:

> http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785

>

> and from Dr. Mercola:

> http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA132785

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

My niece has not had any vaccinations. Yes, that is just as controversial as the vaccines themselves but she is the brightest, healthiest child and do you know she's almost five now and has never been ill with more than a cold. No ear infections, sore throats or a cold longer then a weekend and she's been around children in church, school and daycare. I don't think that anyone should be terrified about vaccines, look at the generations that have had the vaccines and are doing fine! I'm not saying that they do or don't cause autism, ADHD or allergies and asthma. I just don't think we should beat ourselves up about having them ourselves or having given them to children. Educated decisions : That is exactly what we've been doing for our children all along, making educated decisions on the research we knew! As long as we stay open to newer information as it comes along and allow our decisions to change we'll still be doing what is best

for our children! If it isn't currently an epidemic perhaps the vaccine is not necessary. I believe in a vaccine free life for my children and I've actually had to break up with several good and well meaning men over it lol. Your spouse or loved one will have to be with you 100% because many medical professionals will actually go against your wishes and have it done while the mother is recovering after birth. They are well meaning but perhaps more stubborn and devoted to medical simplicities (vaccine = no disease) and fear a world without vaccines. But if you discuss it with your doctor and they realize you're making this decision from an educated spot they will usually be very supportive. If children without vaccines began dying of polio, whooping cough and other easily preventable diseases then of course people wouldn't support a vaccine free existence. But why vaccinate against something that isn't

prevalent in society today? Or in the RARE chance the child or adult gets it, it can be treated. Or take whooping cough for example, children who have been vaccinated against it are still getting it. So I think an educated decision is the best way to go with children and ourselves these days. More research may suggest that it is detrimental to health or perfectly harmless. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

True, we were doing what we thought was best at the time. And I am not

at all convinced that the vaccines cause autism. I'd certainly rather

have two healthy kids with autism than two " typical " kids with

diseases. But sometimes I go to the land of " What if " and it makes me

sad.

> >

> > There is still a part of me that wonders if the flu shot, which is one

> > of the few that still contains thimerosol, contributed to my kids'

> > autism. I know it hasn't been proven, and it's controversial, and I

> > will continue to get my kids immunized against everything else. But I

> > can't help but wonder, what if we had foregone the flu shots?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is a personal decision, and one that should be made by each

family. I'm really glad your niece is doing so well!

>

> My niece has not had any vaccinations. Yes, that is just as

controversial as the vaccines themselves but she is the brightest,

healthiest child and do you know she's almost five now and has never

been ill with more than a cold. No ear infections, sore throats or a

cold longer then a weekend and she's been around children in church,

school and daycare.

>

> I don't think that anyone should be terrified about vaccines, look

at the generations that have had the vaccines and are doing fine! I'm

not saying that they do or don't cause autism, ADHD or allergies and

asthma. I just don't think we should beat ourselves up about having

them ourselves or having given them to children. Educated decisions :

That is exactly what we've been doing for our children all along,

making educated decisions on the research we knew! As long as we stay

open to newer information as it comes along and allow our decisions to

change we'll still be doing what is best for our children!

>

> If it isn't currently an epidemic perhaps the vaccine is not

necessary. I believe in a vaccine free life for my children and I've

actually had to break up with several good and well meaning men over

it lol. Your spouse or loved one will have to be with you 100%

because many medical professionals will actually go against your

wishes and have it done while the mother is recovering after birth.

They are well meaning but perhaps more stubborn and devoted to medical

simplicities (vaccine = no disease) and fear a world without vaccines.

But if you discuss it with your doctor and they realize you're making

this decision from an educated spot they will usually be very supportive.

>

> If children without vaccines began dying of polio, whooping cough

and other easily preventable diseases then of course people wouldn't

support a vaccine free existence. But why vaccinate against something

that isn't prevalent in society today? Or in the RARE chance the child

or adult gets it, it can be treated. Or take whooping cough for

example, children who have been vaccinated against it are still

getting it.

>

> So I think an educated decision is the best way to go with

children and ourselves these days. More research may suggest that it

is detrimental to health or perfectly harmless.

>

> __________________________________________________

>