Re: Splenda and Stevia Extract

[Guest guest]

I assume this is a joke. Vicki

In a message dated 04/19/2002 6:01:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

cleglide@... writes:

> Is Nutrasweet still basically embalming fluid? I need to know and so do

> thousands of others

[Guest guest]

I assume this is a joke. Vicki

In a message dated 04/19/2002 6:01:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

cleglide@... writes:

> Is Nutrasweet still basically embalming fluid? I need to know and so do

> thousands of others

[Guest guest]

wrote: I made some truly awful cookies using splenda

instead of sugar.

HAHA! That cookie recipe must have been part of the Truly Awful dessert

series. I got my cheesecake recipe from that one, too!

I've done a lot of research on this, and there's no evidence to indicate

Splenda is dangerous. But that doesn't mean it's any safer than Nutrasweet.

Because of the Aspartame web propaganda and urban legend, some now choose to

take the " safer " route, opting for Splenda/Sucralose. But I wouldn't go

assuming that because it's derived from sugar, it's natural and harmless.

You may find some helpful info here:

http://www.sugarsreport.com/

http://diabetes.about.com/cs/sweeteners/

Re: Splenda and Stevia Extract

Nutrasweet(aspartame) is not now nor has it ever been dangerous or unsafe

in

spite of all the bs to the contrary on the internet.

Splenda is good although I made some truly awful cookies using splenda

instead of sugar.

Grabner

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/20/02 4:19:03 AM !!!First Boot!!!, jgrabne1@...

writes:

<< Nutrasweet(aspartame) is not now nor has it ever been dangerous or unsafe

in

spite of all the bs to the contrary on the internet. >>

I am not sure where I read this, but the study done about Nutrasweet was

funded by the Sugar council.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Reasonable people may disagree on the dangers of

Nutrasweet. On one end of the spectrum is the industry

telling us it's perfectly safe (where have I heard that

before?). On the other end of the spectrum is wild hysteria

about the supposed ill effects, blaming all kinds of things

up to MS and cancer on the stuff. The truth is most likely

somewhere in the middle.

One thing I can confidently state is that if you are subject

to migraines, it is best to avoid Nutrasweet as it is a

potent trigger for most migraineurs. I can personally vouch

(n=1 ;@) that while Nutrasweet gives me migraines in less

than an hour, I can eat Splenda to my heart's content

without having a headache. But Ace-K also gives me

headaches, just not as bad as Nutrasweet. Stevia seems to

be OK w.r.t. migraines, but I just don't like the flavor.

BTW, trying to just substitute Splenda in various recipes

doesn't work. You need to go to either a low-carb-recipe

list or archive, or buy a couple low-carb baking cookbooks

to get the hang of making it work. Sugar provides alot more

than sweetness in most recipes, e.g. body or structure, and

viscosity when cooked. There are ingenious fixes around -

Expert Foods not/Sugar is a mix of vegetable gums that

provide the syrupy quality and helps make meringues with

Splenda work, whey protein powder can be added to give some

body to cake and cookie recipes, etc. Don't reinvent the

wheel, there is alot of work already done by adventurous

cooks who have come up with some really fine recipes!

--

el (andrea@...) Nevada City, CA, USA

" ...wake now! Discover that you are the song

that the morning brings... "

" One is taught by experience to put a premium

on those few people who can appreciate you

for what you are. " - Gail Godwin

[Guest guest]

Reasonable people may disagree on the dangers of

Nutrasweet. On one end of the spectrum is the industry

telling us it's perfectly safe (where have I heard that

before?). On the other end of the spectrum is wild hysteria

about the supposed ill effects, blaming all kinds of things

up to MS and cancer on the stuff. The truth is most likely

somewhere in the middle.

One thing I can confidently state is that if you are subject

to migraines, it is best to avoid Nutrasweet as it is a

potent trigger for most migraineurs. I can personally vouch

(n=1 ;@) that while Nutrasweet gives me migraines in less

than an hour, I can eat Splenda to my heart's content

without having a headache. But Ace-K also gives me

headaches, just not as bad as Nutrasweet. Stevia seems to

be OK w.r.t. migraines, but I just don't like the flavor.

BTW, trying to just substitute Splenda in various recipes

doesn't work. You need to go to either a low-carb-recipe

list or archive, or buy a couple low-carb baking cookbooks

to get the hang of making it work. Sugar provides alot more

than sweetness in most recipes, e.g. body or structure, and

viscosity when cooked. There are ingenious fixes around -

Expert Foods not/Sugar is a mix of vegetable gums that

provide the syrupy quality and helps make meringues with

Splenda work, whey protein powder can be added to give some

body to cake and cookie recipes, etc. Don't reinvent the

wheel, there is alot of work already done by adventurous

cooks who have come up with some really fine recipes!

--

el (andrea@...) Nevada City, CA, USA

" ...wake now! Discover that you are the song

that the morning brings... "

" One is taught by experience to put a premium

on those few people who can appreciate you

for what you are. " - Gail Godwin

[Guest guest]

Reasonable people may disagree on the dangers of

Nutrasweet. On one end of the spectrum is the industry

telling us it's perfectly safe (where have I heard that

before?). On the other end of the spectrum is wild hysteria

about the supposed ill effects, blaming all kinds of things

up to MS and cancer on the stuff. The truth is most likely

somewhere in the middle.

One thing I can confidently state is that if you are subject

to migraines, it is best to avoid Nutrasweet as it is a

potent trigger for most migraineurs. I can personally vouch

(n=1 ;@) that while Nutrasweet gives me migraines in less

than an hour, I can eat Splenda to my heart's content

without having a headache. But Ace-K also gives me

headaches, just not as bad as Nutrasweet. Stevia seems to

be OK w.r.t. migraines, but I just don't like the flavor.

BTW, trying to just substitute Splenda in various recipes

doesn't work. You need to go to either a low-carb-recipe

list or archive, or buy a couple low-carb baking cookbooks

to get the hang of making it work. Sugar provides alot more

than sweetness in most recipes, e.g. body or structure, and

viscosity when cooked. There are ingenious fixes around -

Expert Foods not/Sugar is a mix of vegetable gums that

provide the syrupy quality and helps make meringues with

Splenda work, whey protein powder can be added to give some

body to cake and cookie recipes, etc. Don't reinvent the

wheel, there is alot of work already done by adventurous

cooks who have come up with some really fine recipes!

--

el (andrea@...) Nevada City, CA, USA

" ...wake now! Discover that you are the song

that the morning brings... "

" One is taught by experience to put a premium

on those few people who can appreciate you

for what you are. " - Gail Godwin

[Guest guest]

> Reasonable people may disagree on the dangers of

> Nutrasweet. On one end of the spectrum is the industry

> telling us it's perfectly safe (where have I heard that

> before?). On the other end of the spectrum is wild hysteria

> about the supposed ill effects, blaming all kinds of things

> up to MS and cancer on the stuff. The truth is most likely

> somewhere in the middle.

>

> One thing I can confidently state is that if you are subject

> to migraines, it is best to avoid Nutrasweet as it is a

> potent trigger for most migraineurs. I can personally vouch

> (n=1 ;@) that while Nutrasweet gives me migraines in less

> than an hour, I can eat Splenda to my heart's content

> without having a headache. But Ace-K also gives me

> headaches, just not as bad as Nutrasweet. Stevia seems to

> be OK w.r.t. migraines, but I just don't like the flavor.

>

> BTW, trying to just substitute Splenda in various recipes

> doesn't work. You need to go to either a low-carb-recipe

> list or archive, or buy a couple low-carb baking cookbooks

> to get the hang of making it work. Sugar provides alot more

> than sweetness in most recipes, e.g. body or structure, and

> viscosity when cooked. There are ingenious fixes around -

> Expert Foods not/Sugar is a mix of vegetable gums that

> provide the syrupy quality and helps make meringues with

> Splenda work, whey protein powder can be added to give some

> body to cake and cookie recipes, etc. Don't reinvent the

> wheel, there is alot of work already done by adventurous

> cooks who have come up with some really fine recipes!

>

> --

>

> el (andrea@o...) Nevada City, CA, USA

> " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song

> that the morning brings... "

>

> " One is taught by experience to put a premium

> on those few people who can appreciate you

> for what you are. " - Gail Godwin

Hi

I have been using nutrasweet since its inception. The only thing I

found wrong with it was the cost! I had diaherrah at first use via

diet coke but no problems since.

perhaps it being a protein, maybe some people reacts to in various

ways. Im sure that may be a reason for some of the migraines many of

my diabetic friends had

being a diabetic for over 30 years, nutrasweet was a godsend!

remember sacharrin, cyclomates, and other foul tasting sweetners?

But then people like you have reactions so we must work for something

that all diabetics can use.

As for trusting corps I used to take dbi-td an oral med for type2

diabetes {even though I was type 1}. This med was banned because it

created myocardio infarctions! When my doctor died from using this

med I lost a lot of confidence in the med pros, yet that was in the

early 70s.

Things have changed and knowledge is the key to diabetes control

Thank you for your input hope to hear more from you

[Guest guest]

> Reasonable people may disagree on the dangers of

> Nutrasweet. On one end of the spectrum is the industry

> telling us it's perfectly safe (where have I heard that

> before?). On the other end of the spectrum is wild hysteria

> about the supposed ill effects, blaming all kinds of things

> up to MS and cancer on the stuff. The truth is most likely

> somewhere in the middle.

>

> One thing I can confidently state is that if you are subject

> to migraines, it is best to avoid Nutrasweet as it is a

> potent trigger for most migraineurs. I can personally vouch

> (n=1 ;@) that while Nutrasweet gives me migraines in less

> than an hour, I can eat Splenda to my heart's content

> without having a headache. But Ace-K also gives me

> headaches, just not as bad as Nutrasweet. Stevia seems to

> be OK w.r.t. migraines, but I just don't like the flavor.

>

> BTW, trying to just substitute Splenda in various recipes

> doesn't work. You need to go to either a low-carb-recipe

> list or archive, or buy a couple low-carb baking cookbooks

> to get the hang of making it work. Sugar provides alot more

> than sweetness in most recipes, e.g. body or structure, and

> viscosity when cooked. There are ingenious fixes around -

> Expert Foods not/Sugar is a mix of vegetable gums that

> provide the syrupy quality and helps make meringues with

> Splenda work, whey protein powder can be added to give some

> body to cake and cookie recipes, etc. Don't reinvent the

> wheel, there is alot of work already done by adventurous

> cooks who have come up with some really fine recipes!

>

> --

>

> el (andrea@o...) Nevada City, CA, USA

> " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song

> that the morning brings... "

>

> " One is taught by experience to put a premium

> on those few people who can appreciate you

> for what you are. " - Gail Godwin

Hi

I have been using nutrasweet since its inception. The only thing I

found wrong with it was the cost! I had diaherrah at first use via

diet coke but no problems since.

perhaps it being a protein, maybe some people reacts to in various

ways. Im sure that may be a reason for some of the migraines many of

my diabetic friends had

being a diabetic for over 30 years, nutrasweet was a godsend!

remember sacharrin, cyclomates, and other foul tasting sweetners?

But then people like you have reactions so we must work for something

that all diabetics can use.

As for trusting corps I used to take dbi-td an oral med for type2

diabetes {even though I was type 1}. This med was banned because it

created myocardio infarctions! When my doctor died from using this

med I lost a lot of confidence in the med pros, yet that was in the

early 70s.

Things have changed and knowledge is the key to diabetes control

Thank you for your input hope to hear more from you

[Guest guest]

el wrote:

<< One thing I can confidently state is that if you are subject to

migraines, it is best to avoid Nutrasweet as it is a potent trigger for most

migraineurs. >>

Another approach (mine) was to forego sweets completely. I already wasn't

using sugar when diagnosed years ago, and so I felt no need to find

substitutes. Our dogs dislike sweets unless we train them to eat them. In

our evolution, human beings would not have been exposed to sweets except the

occasional fruit (which would have been seasonal only, available only in

tropical or semi-tropical areas, and would have been a far cry from the

juicy big honkers in modern produce departments).

I can't help but wonder if all this chasing after substitutes for sweets

isn't a temptation to diabetics to fall off the wagon from time to time.

Susie