Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re: Doctor's appointment.

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

:

I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people

postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any

difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're

better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

" natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I

have my fire-proof suit on.)

The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on

reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals.

Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different

standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will

keep you out of trouble.

But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your

A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe

hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

1's.

Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

Mike Freeman

> Hi, Everyone,

>

> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars are

coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it before

raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I can get test

results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. They send an

e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. I hope that the

test results are much improved from last time. What I didn't tell you was that

the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as I nearly did when I was read

the result. I have never had a result that high although I did have one of

eleven because I had a severe infection at the time.

> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am not

disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. Point of

interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the group and the

feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought that was too low.

She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about 30 grams per meal

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi, Mike,

Thank you for the good wishes. According to the doctor, 5.8 is normal for

nondiabetics. I wanted to wait because the readings were dropping each day

and I think we could have managed but she didn't want to take the chance. I

also suggested that we see what the a1c reading was but she didn't wait.

So, we'll see what happens. According to her, if I do everything I'm

supposed to, I still might be able to get off medication and avoid

complications.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

> :

>

> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people

> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any

> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>

> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're

> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I

> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>

> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on

> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals.

> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different

> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will

> keep you out of trouble.

>

> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your

> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe

> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

> 1's.

>

> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>

> Mike Freeman

>

>

>

> > Hi, Everyone,

> >

> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars

are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as

I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

the time.

> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about

30 grams per meal

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

I admire your desire to control your diabetes without taking any

medications, but I seriously doubt this can be done at this stage. Tell me

more about the medications you have increased to deal with the problem.

Once you get over carbohydrate withdrawal, which is similar to other

chemical withdrawals, you will feel much better. So count those carbs and

dose that medication and take that two hour post prandial blood glucose

reading. If it is under 120 on the glucose monitor or lower, you are good

to go, and in three months at your next A1C test, you should be well below

6.0.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>

>

>> :

>>

>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people

>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any

>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>

>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're

>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I

>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>

>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on

>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals.

>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different

>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will

>> keep you out of trouble.

>>

>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your

>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe

>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

>> 1's.

>>

>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>

>> Mike Freeman

>>

>>

>>

>> > Hi, Everyone,

>> >

>> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

>> > did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

> sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

> as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

>> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I

>> > am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

> about

> 30 grams per meal

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

I admire your desire to control your diabetes without taking any

medications, but I seriously doubt this can be done at this stage. Tell me

more about the medications you have increased to deal with the problem.

Once you get over carbohydrate withdrawal, which is similar to other

chemical withdrawals, you will feel much better. So count those carbs and

dose that medication and take that two hour post prandial blood glucose

reading. If it is under 120 on the glucose monitor or lower, you are good

to go, and in three months at your next A1C test, you should be well below

6.0.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>

>

>> :

>>

>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people

>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any

>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>

>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're

>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I

>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>

>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on

>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals.

>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different

>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will

>> keep you out of trouble.

>>

>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your

>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe

>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

>> 1's.

>>

>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>

>> Mike Freeman

>>

>>

>>

>> > Hi, Everyone,

>> >

>> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

>> > did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

> sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

> as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

>> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I

>> > am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

> about

> 30 grams per meal

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

I admire your desire to control your diabetes without taking any

medications, but I seriously doubt this can be done at this stage. Tell me

more about the medications you have increased to deal with the problem.

Once you get over carbohydrate withdrawal, which is similar to other

chemical withdrawals, you will feel much better. So count those carbs and

dose that medication and take that two hour post prandial blood glucose

reading. If it is under 120 on the glucose monitor or lower, you are good

to go, and in three months at your next A1C test, you should be well below

6.0.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>

>

>> :

>>

>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people

>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any

>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>

>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're

>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I

>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>

>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on

>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals.

>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different

>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will

>> keep you out of trouble.

>>

>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your

>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe

>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

>> 1's.

>>

>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>

>> Mike Freeman

>>

>>

>>

>> > Hi, Everyone,

>> >

>> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

>> > did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

> sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

> as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

>> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I

>> > am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

> about

> 30 grams per meal

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:

I seem to be sparring with some on this list today so I might as well at

least challenge you a little.

You seem to be approaching your diabetes as if needing medication is a

sin! Pardon my French but that's rubbish. The sin is high blood glucose

readings! If you can get them down without medication, well and good. If

you can't, pour on the meds. The one caveat here is that you can't

substitute medication for the need to change lifestyles. With that

proviso, it seems to me most productive to view diet, exercise and

medication as complementary tools in your war-on-diabetes arsenal!

Mike

> I'm taking Glucovance, the lowest which is 2.5/500. Now, however, it's

> 5/500. Apparently there are eight levels of medication and then you go to

> Insulin. She also told me that your body gets used to the medication. I

> feel bad that we had to increase the medication but I guess I will learn to

> deal with it. There are also two other medications we can try if need be,

> but I hope we don't have to resort to that. I will just have to take things

> one step at a time and try really hard.

>

>

> Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>>

>>>

>>>> :

>>>>

>>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

> people

>>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes

> any

>>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

>>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

>>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

>>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>>>

>>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

>>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

>>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

>>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

>>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

> you're

>>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

>>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes;

> I

>>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>>>

>>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

>>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

>>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

>>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up

> on

>>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

> individuals.

>>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

> different

>>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

>>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

>>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

>>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

>>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

>>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

> will

>>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>>>

>>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

> your

>>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

>>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

> severe

>>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

>>>> 1's.

>>>>

>>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>>>

>>>> Mike Freeman

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>>>>

>>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

>>>>> did

>>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

>>> sugars

>>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

>>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out

> I

>>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

> questions.

>>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

> goes.

>>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

>>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

>>> as

>>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

>>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection

> at

>>> the time.

>>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I

>>>>> am

>>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

> down.

>>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

>>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

>>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

>>> about

>>> 30 grams per meal

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm taking Glucovance, the lowest which is 2.5/500. Now, however, it's

5/500. Apparently there are eight levels of medication and then you go to

Insulin. She also told me that your body gets used to the medication. I

feel bad that we had to increase the medication but I guess I will learn to

deal with it. There are also two other medications we can try if need be,

but I hope we don't have to resort to that. I will just have to take things

one step at a time and try really hard.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

> >

> >

> >> :

> >>

> >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

people

> >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes

any

> >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

> >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

> >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

> >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

> >>

> >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

> >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

> >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

> >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

> >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

> >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

you're

> >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

> >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

> >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

> >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

> >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes;

I

> >> have my fire-proof suit on.)

> >>

> >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

> >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

> >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

> >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

> >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

> >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up

on

> >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

individuals.

> >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

different

> >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

> >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

> >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

> >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

> >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

> >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

> >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

> >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

will

> >> keep you out of trouble.

> >>

> >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

your

> >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

> >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

> >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

severe

> >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

> >> 1's.

> >>

> >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

> >>

> >> Mike Freeman

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> > Hi, Everyone,

> >> >

> >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

> >> > did

> > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

> > sugars

> > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out

I

> > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

questions.

> > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

goes.

> > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

> > as

> > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection

at

> > the time.

> >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I

> >> > am

> > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

down.

> > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

> > about

> > 30 grams per meal

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

You sound like you feel you are a failure because you have to meds for your

diabetes. That is not so. Diabetes is a disease that has to be managed; it

is also a disease that does it's own thing and managing it is a constant

changing thing. It sounds to me that you are doing everything that is

needed to manage your diabetes, but your pancreas has not settled down (not

your fault) so that it can be manged consistently yet. Keep working at it

as you have been and things will eventually settle down more. There is

really no way of predicting when or how your pancreas will quit making

insulin or if it will keep putting out some insulin so that you stay on meds

o r will eventually have to go on insulin.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

I'm taking Glucovance, the lowest which is 2.5/500. Now, however, it's

5/500. Apparently there are eight levels of medication and then you go to

Insulin. She also told me that your body gets used to the medication. I

feel bad that we had to increase the medication but I guess I will learn to

deal with it. There are also two other medications we can try if need be,

but I hope we don't have to resort to that. I will just have to take things

one step at a time and try really hard.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

> >

> >

> >> :

> >>

> >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

people

> >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes

any

> >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that

> >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

> >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

> >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

> >>

> >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

> >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I

> >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

> >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough

> >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

> >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

you're

> >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

> >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

> >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's

> >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

> >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes;

I

> >> have my fire-proof suit on.)

> >>

> >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

> >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

> >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

> >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

> >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think

> >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up

on

> >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

individuals.

> >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

different

> >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

> >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

> >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures

> >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

> >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down

> >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

> >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5

> >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

will

> >> keep you out of trouble.

> >>

> >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

your

> >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

> >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news

> >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

severe

> >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type

> >> 1's.

> >>

> >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

> >>

> >> Mike Freeman

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> > Hi, Everyone,

> >> >

> >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

> >> > did

> > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

> > sugars

> > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out

I

> > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

questions.

> > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

goes.

> > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

> > as

> > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection

at

> > the time.

> >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I

> >> > am

> > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

down.

> > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

> > about

> > 30 grams per meal

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mike, I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I don't mind

taking medication, I've been doing that for a long time. I don't mind carb

counting, I don't mind riding my bicycle except when it's too hot. What I

_do mind, is having to increase the medication because in my mind, that

means that I am getting worse. I could accept taking the medication being

on the lowest dose, but now I'm not on the lowest dose anymore. Maybe I'm

just strange and no one can understand where I'm coming from.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>> :

> >>>>

> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

> > people

> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes

> > any

> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

that

> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you;

> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

> >>>>

> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect,

I

> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

tough

> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

> > you're

> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

what's

> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

(Yes;

> > I

> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

> >>>>

> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia.

> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

think

> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up

> > on

> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

> > individuals.

> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

> > different

> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

measures

> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

down

> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the

5

> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

> > will

> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

> >>>>

> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

> > your

> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

news

> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

> > severe

> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

Type

> >>>> 1's.

> >>>>

> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

> >>>>

> >>>> Mike Freeman

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They

> >>>>> did

> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

> >>> sugars

> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on

it

> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

out

> > I

> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

> > questions.

> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

> > goes.

> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

chair

> >>> as

> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

that

> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

infection

> > at

> >>> the time.

> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that

I

> >>>>> am

> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

> > down.

> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

the

> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

thought

> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

> >>> about

> >>> 30 grams per meal

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can understand. I don't want to increase my medicine unless I can't

control my diabetes with diet and exercise any more. I started out only

taking one blood presser pill over twenty five years ago and now I take six

pills a day just to keep it down. so if I have to increase my diabetes

medicine, then ok fine. but I want to try to stay on the lower strength of

medicine for as long as I can first. eating right and watching your carb in

take is a meal to meal battle and you can't look at it as a diet. it is

simply changing your way of looking at food for the rest of your life.

diabetes is a killer and that fact can't be ignored.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>>> :

>> >>>>

>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>> > people

>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes

>> > any

>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

> that

>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>> >>>> you;

>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect,

> I

>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

> tough

>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>> > you're

>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

> what's

>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

> (Yes;

>> > I

>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>> >>>>

>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

> think

>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>> >>>> up

>> > on

>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>> > individuals.

>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>> > different

>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

> measures

>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

> down

>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>> >>>> the

> 5

>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

>> > will

>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

>> > your

>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

> news

>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>> > severe

>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

> Type

>> >>>> 1's.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>> >>>>> They

>> >>>>> did

>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

>> >>> sugars

>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on

> it

>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

> out

>> > I

>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>> > questions.

>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

>> > goes.

>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What

>> >>> I

>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

> chair

>> >>> as

>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

> that

>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

> infection

>> > at

>> >>> the time.

>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that

> I

>> >>>>> am

>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

>> > down.

>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

> the

>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

> thought

>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>> >>> quibble

>> >>> about

>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I know exactly where you are coming from. I have already been there. As

time goes by and as more and more carbs are consumed greater and greater

demands are made on your pancrease to produce insulin as your body becomes

more insulin resistant. I, too, felt I was getting worse as I had to

increase my oral medication dose, then later to have to increase it further

and even after many years having to take not just one medication in greater

doses, but having to add a second medication for diabetes along with the

first one. It was definitely exasperating to say the least. The next piece

of information may distress you, but I will say it any way. Research

reveals that most folks who are type 2 diabetics in the past usually become

insulin dependent after 10-15 years of being a diabetic controlled on oral

medications alone. For me my pancrease finally played out after 16 and a

half years before I became insulin dependent. This may never happen to you.

Then again it might. But who am I to say? Blood glucose level control is

the name of the game, and treatment and medications are available to help

you with this.

As you gain better control, you will feel better and better, and also avoid

those diabetic complications. So hang in there!

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>>> :

>> >>>>

>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>> > people

>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes

>> > any

>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

> that

>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's

>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>> >>>> you;

>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results --

>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect,

> I

>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the

>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

> tough

>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>> > you're

>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

> what's

>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

> (Yes;

>> > I

>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>> >>>>

>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some

>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

> think

>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>> >>>> up

>> > on

>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>> > individuals.

>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>> > different

>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies

>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

> measures

>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

> down

>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without

>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>> >>>> the

> 5

>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

>> > will

>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

>> > your

>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

> news

>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>> > severe

>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

> Type

>> >>>> 1's.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>> >>>>> They

>> >>>>> did

>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

>> >>> sugars

>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on

> it

>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

> out

>> > I

>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>> > questions.

>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

>> > goes.

>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What

>> >>> I

>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

> chair

>> >>> as

>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

> that

>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

> infection

>> > at

>> >>> the time.

>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that

> I

>> >>>>> am

>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

>> > down.

>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

> the

>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

> thought

>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>> >>> quibble

>> >>> about

>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

my q is, if you take the medicine and have tight control on your bs and do

every thing right, will you any way after fifteen years or so, still have

the need for insulin?

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>> >>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> :

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>>> > people

>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news "

>>> >>>> makes

>>> > any

>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

>> that

>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping

>>> >>>> it's

>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>>> >>>> you;

>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C

>>> >>>> results --

>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With

>>> >>>> respect,

>> I

>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why

>>> >>>> the

>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

>> tough

>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>>> > you're

>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

>> what's

>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

>> (Yes;

>>> > I

>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not,

>>> >>>> some

>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

>> think

>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>>> >>>> up

>>> > on

>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>>> > individuals.

>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>>> > different

>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C,

>>> >>>> varies

>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

>> measures

>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

>> down

>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes

>>> >>>> without

>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>>> >>>> the

>> 5

>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

>>> > will

>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

>>> > your

>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

>> news

>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>>> > severe

>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

>> Type

>>> >>>> 1's.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>>> >>>>> They

>>> >>>>> did

>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500.

>>> >>> The

>>> >>> sugars

>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work

>>> >>> on

>> it

>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

>> out

>>> > I

>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>>> > questions.

>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

>>> > goes.

>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What

>>> >>> I

>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

>> chair

>>> >>> as

>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

>> that

>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

>> infection

>>> > at

>>> >>> the time.

>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope

>>> >>>>> that

>> I

>>> >>>>> am

>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

>>> > down.

>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

>> the

>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

>> thought

>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>>> >>> quibble

>>> >>> about

>>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

my q is, if you take the medicine and have tight control on your bs and do

every thing right, will you any way after fifteen years or so, still have

the need for insulin?

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>> >>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> :

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>>> > people

>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news "

>>> >>>> makes

>>> > any

>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

>> that

>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping

>>> >>>> it's

>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>>> >>>> you;

>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C

>>> >>>> results --

>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With

>>> >>>> respect,

>> I

>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why

>>> >>>> the

>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

>> tough

>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>>> > you're

>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

>> what's

>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

>> (Yes;

>>> > I

>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not,

>>> >>>> some

>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

>> think

>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>>> >>>> up

>>> > on

>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>>> > individuals.

>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>>> > different

>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C,

>>> >>>> varies

>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

>> measures

>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

>> down

>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes

>>> >>>> without

>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>>> >>>> the

>> 5

>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

>>> > will

>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

>>> > your

>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

>> news

>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>>> > severe

>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

>> Type

>>> >>>> 1's.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>>> >>>>> They

>>> >>>>> did

>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500.

>>> >>> The

>>> >>> sugars

>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work

>>> >>> on

>> it

>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

>> out

>>> > I

>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>>> > questions.

>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

>>> > goes.

>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What

>>> >>> I

>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

>> chair

>>> >>> as

>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

>> that

>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

>> infection

>>> > at

>>> >>> the time.

>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope

>>> >>>>> that

>> I

>>> >>>>> am

>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

>>> > down.

>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

>> the

>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

>> thought

>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>>> >>> quibble

>>> >>> about

>>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is a very good question. I am sorry to say I do not know the answer.

I am hoping that tight blood glucose control will keep one from becoming

insulin dependent. My inclination is to believe it to be so. However I

have seen any research results to verify this inclination. I have seen some

research results on pre-diabetics that shows they can avoid becoming a

diabetic in the first place provided they change their life style now. You

could be a research subject of one to see if maintaining tight glucose

control in a type 2 diabetic for the rest of your life can prevent you from

becoming an insulin dependent diabetic. It is unlikely I will be around

another 10-15 years with my history, but it would be good to see your

experiment results reported here.

We may not reach the stars, but then, what are dreams for?

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>> :

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>>>> > people

>>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news "

>>>> >>>> makes

>>>> > any

>>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

>>> that

>>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping

>>>> >>>> it's

>>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>>>> >>>> you;

>>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C

>>>> >>>> results --

>>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With

>>>> >>>> respect,

>>> I

>>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why

>>>> >>>> the

>>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

>>> tough

>>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have

>>>> >>>> been

>>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>>>> > you're

>>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an

>>>> >>>> option!).

>>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

>>> what's

>>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

>>> (Yes;

>>>> > I

>>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not,

>>>> >>>> some

>>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>>>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

>>> think

>>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>>>> >>>> up

>>>> > on

>>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>>>> > individuals.

>>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>>>> > different

>>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C,

>>>> >>>> varies

>>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used.

>>>> >>>> What

>>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

>>> measures

>>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

>>> down

>>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes

>>>> >>>> without

>>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>>>> >>>> the

>>> 5

>>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of

>>>> >>>> 5.5

>>>> > will

>>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the

>>>> >>>> lower

>>>> > your

>>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have

>>>> >>>> to

>>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

>>> news

>>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>>>> > severe

>>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

>>> Type

>>>> >>>> 1's.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>>>> >>>>> They

>>>> >>>>> did

>>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500.

>>>> >>> The

>>>> >>> sugars

>>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work

>>>> >>> on

>>> it

>>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

>>> out

>>>> > I

>>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>>>> > questions.

>>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how

>>>> >>> that

>>>> > goes.

>>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time.

>>>> >>> What

>>>> >>> I

>>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

>>> chair

>>>> >>> as

>>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

>>> that

>>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

>>> infection

>>>> > at

>>>> >>> the time.

>>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope

>>>> >>>>> that

>>> I

>>>> >>>>> am

>>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring

>>>> >>> it

>>>> > down.

>>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member

>>>> >>> of

>>> the

>>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

>>> thought

>>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>>>> >>> quibble

>>>> >>> about

>>>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is a very good question. I am sorry to say I do not know the answer.

I am hoping that tight blood glucose control will keep one from becoming

insulin dependent. My inclination is to believe it to be so. However I

have seen any research results to verify this inclination. I have seen some

research results on pre-diabetics that shows they can avoid becoming a

diabetic in the first place provided they change their life style now. You

could be a research subject of one to see if maintaining tight glucose

control in a type 2 diabetic for the rest of your life can prevent you from

becoming an insulin dependent diabetic. It is unlikely I will be around

another 10-15 years with my history, but it would be good to see your

experiment results reported here.

We may not reach the stars, but then, what are dreams for?

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>> :

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>>>> > people

>>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news "

>>>> >>>> makes

>>>> > any

>>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

>>> that

>>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping

>>>> >>>> it's

>>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>>>> >>>> you;

>>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C

>>>> >>>> results --

>>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With

>>>> >>>> respect,

>>> I

>>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why

>>>> >>>> the

>>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

>>> tough

>>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have

>>>> >>>> been

>>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>>>> > you're

>>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an

>>>> >>>> option!).

>>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

>>> what's

>>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

>>> (Yes;

>>>> > I

>>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not,

>>>> >>>> some

>>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>>>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

>>> think

>>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>>>> >>>> up

>>>> > on

>>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>>>> > individuals.

>>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>>>> > different

>>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C,

>>>> >>>> varies

>>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used.

>>>> >>>> What

>>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

>>> measures

>>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

>>> down

>>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes

>>>> >>>> without

>>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>>>> >>>> the

>>> 5

>>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of

>>>> >>>> 5.5

>>>> > will

>>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the

>>>> >>>> lower

>>>> > your

>>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have

>>>> >>>> to

>>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

>>> news

>>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>>>> > severe

>>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

>>> Type

>>>> >>>> 1's.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>>>> >>>>> They

>>>> >>>>> did

>>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500.

>>>> >>> The

>>>> >>> sugars

>>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work

>>>> >>> on

>>> it

>>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

>>> out

>>>> > I

>>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>>>> > questions.

>>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how

>>>> >>> that

>>>> > goes.

>>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time.

>>>> >>> What

>>>> >>> I

>>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

>>> chair

>>>> >>> as

>>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

>>> that

>>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

>>> infection

>>>> > at

>>>> >>> the time.

>>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope

>>>> >>>>> that

>>> I

>>>> >>>>> am

>>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring

>>>> >>> it

>>>> > down.

>>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member

>>>> >>> of

>>> the

>>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

>>> thought

>>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>>>> >>> quibble

>>>> >>> about

>>>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I did not resend this! Why in the world does a message get resent after

it's been sent once? In my bulk mail I have almost 2000 messages, and I

swear, I delete messages and they come back. It's weird!

Doctor's appointment.

> Hi, Everyone,

>

> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars

are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as

I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

the time.

> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about

30 grams per meal

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My computer went thorough a phase where it was doing that, and my

husband found it had a virus. I had to delete everything fro my deleted box

and that helped to not have the messages come back. He " cured " the

computer of that particular virus however, so it stopped doing that.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

I did not resend this! Why in the world does a message get resent after

it's been sent once? In my bulk mail I have almost 2000 messages, and I

swear, I delete messages and they come back. It's weird!

Doctor's appointment.

> Hi, Everyone,

>

> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars

are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as

I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

the time.

> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about

30 grams per meal

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My computer went thorough a phase where it was doing that, and my

husband found it had a virus. I had to delete everything fro my deleted box

and that helped to not have the messages come back. He " cured " the

computer of that particular virus however, so it stopped doing that.

Re: Doctor's appointment.

I did not resend this! Why in the world does a message get resent after

it's been sent once? In my bulk mail I have almost 2000 messages, and I

swear, I delete messages and they come back. It's weird!

Doctor's appointment.

> Hi, Everyone,

>

> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars

are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as

I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

the time.

> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about

30 grams per meal

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me

that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted

message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it

was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know

which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty

it when I used msn but OE must be different.

Doctor's appointment.

>

>

> > Hi, Everyone,

> >

> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

about

> 30 grams per meal

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me

that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted

message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it

was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know

which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty

it when I used msn but OE must be different.

Doctor's appointment.

>

>

> > Hi, Everyone,

> >

> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

about

> 30 grams per meal

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hmmm. You got me. A computer expert I am NOT! (smile)

Re: Doctor's appointment.

I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me

that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted

message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it

was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know

which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty

it when I used msn but OE must be different.

Doctor's appointment.

>

>

> > Hi, Everyone,

> >

> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

about

> 30 grams per meal

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hmmm. You got me. A computer expert I am NOT! (smile)

Re: Doctor's appointment.

I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me

that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted

message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it

was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know

which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty

it when I used msn but OE must be different.

Doctor's appointment.

>

>

> > Hi, Everyone,

> >

> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

about

> 30 grams per meal

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hmmm. You got me. A computer expert I am NOT! (smile)

Re: Doctor's appointment.

I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me

that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted

message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it

was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know

which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty

it when I used msn but OE must be different.

Doctor's appointment.

>

>

> > Hi, Everyone,

> >

> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did

> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The

sugars

> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it

> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I

> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions.

> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes.

> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I

> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair

as

> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that

> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at

> the time.

> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am

> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down.

> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the

> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought

> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble

about

> 30 grams per meal

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Right on!

Mike

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>> >>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> :

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>>> > people

>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news "

>>> >>>> makes

>>> > any

>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

>> that

>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping

>>> >>>> it's

>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>>> >>>> you;

>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C

>>> >>>> results --

>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With

>>> >>>> respect,

>> I

>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why

>>> >>>> the

>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

>> tough

>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>>> > you're

>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

>> what's

>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

>> (Yes;

>>> > I

>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not,

>>> >>>> some

>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

>> think

>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>>> >>>> up

>>> > on

>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>>> > individuals.

>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>>> > different

>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C,

>>> >>>> varies

>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

>> measures

>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

>> down

>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes

>>> >>>> without

>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>>> >>>> the

>> 5

>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

>>> > will

>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

>>> > your

>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

>> news

>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>>> > severe

>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

>> Type

>>> >>>> 1's.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>>> >>>>> They

>>> >>>>> did

>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500.

>>> >>> The

>>> >>> sugars

>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work

>>> >>> on

>> it

>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

>> out

>>> > I

>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>>> > questions.

>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

>>> > goes.

>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What

>>> >>> I

>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

>> chair

>>> >>> as

>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

>> that

>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

>> infection

>>> > at

>>> >>> the time.

>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope

>>> >>>>> that

>> I

>>> >>>>> am

>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

>>> > down.

>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

>> the

>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

>> thought

>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>>> >>> quibble

>>> >>> about

>>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Right on!

Mike

Re: Doctor's appointment.

>>> >>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> :

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many

>>> > people

>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news "

>>> >>>> makes

>>> > any

>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad

>> that

>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping

>>> >>>> it's

>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to

>>> >>>> you;

>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C

>>> >>>> results --

>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With

>>> >>>> respect,

>> I

>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why

>>> >>>> the

>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te

>> tough

>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been

>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and

>>> > you're

>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of

>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!).

>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to

>> what's

>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of

>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public.

>> (Yes;

>>> > I

>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.)

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not,

>>> >>>> some

>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical

>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing

>>> >>>> hypoglycemia.

>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower

>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I

>> think

>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung

>>> >>>> up

>>> > on

>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by

>>> > individuals.

>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly

>>> > different

>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C,

>>> >>>> varies

>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What

>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab

>> measures

>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I

>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C

>> down

>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes

>>> >>>> without

>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into

>>> >>>> the

>> 5

>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5

>>> > will

>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower

>>> > your

>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to

>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good

>> news

>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience

>>> > severe

>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are

>> Type

>>> >>>> 1's.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Mike Freeman

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone,

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would.

>>> >>>>> They

>>> >>>>> did

>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500.

>>> >>> The

>>> >>> sugars

>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work

>>> >>> on

>> it

>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found

>> out

>>> > I

>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask

>>> > questions.

>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that

>>> > goes.

>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What

>>> >>> I

>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the

>> chair

>>> >>> as

>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result

>> that

>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe

>> infection

>>> > at

>>> >>> the time.

>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope

>>> >>>>> that

>> I

>>> >>>>> am

>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it

>>> > down.

>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of

>> the

>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she

>> thought

>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't

>>> >>> quibble

>>> >>> about

>>> >>> 30 grams per meal

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...