Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 : I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I have my fire-proof suit on.) The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will keep you out of trouble. But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type 1's. Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. Mike Freeman > Hi, Everyone, > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at the time. > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about 30 grams per meal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hi, Mike, Thank you for the good wishes. According to the doctor, 5.8 is normal for nondiabetics. I wanted to wait because the readings were dropping each day and I think we could have managed but she didn't want to take the chance. I also suggested that we see what the a1c reading was but she didn't wait. So, we'll see what happens. According to her, if I do everything I'm supposed to, I still might be able to get off medication and avoid complications. Re: Doctor's appointment. > : > > I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people > postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any > difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that > you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's > accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; > it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. > > I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- > less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I > venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the > good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough > on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been > enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're > better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of > endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). > We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's > " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of > alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I > have my fire-proof suit on.) > > The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some > people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical > Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. > Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower > without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think > sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on > reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. > Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different > standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies > somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What > ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures > and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I > average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down > to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without > complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 > range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will > keep you out of trouble. > > But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your > A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to > figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news > is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe > hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type > 1's. > > Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. > > Mike Freeman > > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at the time. > > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about 30 grams per meal > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 , I admire your desire to control your diabetes without taking any medications, but I seriously doubt this can be done at this stage. Tell me more about the medications you have increased to deal with the problem. Once you get over carbohydrate withdrawal, which is similar to other chemical withdrawals, you will feel much better. So count those carbs and dose that medication and take that two hour post prandial blood glucose reading. If it is under 120 on the glucose monitor or lower, you are good to go, and in three months at your next A1C test, you should be well below 6.0. Re: Doctor's appointment. > > >> : >> >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >> >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I >> have my fire-proof suit on.) >> >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will >> keep you out of trouble. >> >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type >> 1's. >> >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >> >> Mike Freeman >> >> >> >> > Hi, Everyone, >> > >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They >> > did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The > sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair > as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I >> > am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble > about > 30 grams per meal >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 , I admire your desire to control your diabetes without taking any medications, but I seriously doubt this can be done at this stage. Tell me more about the medications you have increased to deal with the problem. Once you get over carbohydrate withdrawal, which is similar to other chemical withdrawals, you will feel much better. So count those carbs and dose that medication and take that two hour post prandial blood glucose reading. If it is under 120 on the glucose monitor or lower, you are good to go, and in three months at your next A1C test, you should be well below 6.0. Re: Doctor's appointment. > > >> : >> >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >> >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I >> have my fire-proof suit on.) >> >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will >> keep you out of trouble. >> >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type >> 1's. >> >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >> >> Mike Freeman >> >> >> >> > Hi, Everyone, >> > >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They >> > did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The > sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair > as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I >> > am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble > about > 30 grams per meal >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 , I admire your desire to control your diabetes without taking any medications, but I seriously doubt this can be done at this stage. Tell me more about the medications you have increased to deal with the problem. Once you get over carbohydrate withdrawal, which is similar to other chemical withdrawals, you will feel much better. So count those carbs and dose that medication and take that two hour post prandial blood glucose reading. If it is under 120 on the glucose monitor or lower, you are good to go, and in three months at your next A1C test, you should be well below 6.0. Re: Doctor's appointment. > > >> : >> >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >> >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I >> have my fire-proof suit on.) >> >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will >> keep you out of trouble. >> >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type >> 1's. >> >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >> >> Mike Freeman >> >> >> >> > Hi, Everyone, >> > >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They >> > did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The > sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair > as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I >> > am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble > about > 30 grams per meal >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 : I seem to be sparring with some on this list today so I might as well at least challenge you a little. You seem to be approaching your diabetes as if needing medication is a sin! Pardon my French but that's rubbish. The sin is high blood glucose readings! If you can get them down without medication, well and good. If you can't, pour on the meds. The one caveat here is that you can't substitute medication for the need to change lifestyles. With that proviso, it seems to me most productive to view diet, exercise and medication as complementary tools in your war-on-diabetes arsenal! Mike > I'm taking Glucovance, the lowest which is 2.5/500. Now, however, it's > 5/500. Apparently there are eight levels of medication and then you go to > Insulin. She also told me that your body gets used to the medication. I > feel bad that we had to increase the medication but I guess I will learn to > deal with it. There are also two other medications we can try if need be, > but I hope we don't have to resort to that. I will just have to take things > one step at a time and try really hard. > > > Re: Doctor's appointment. >>> >>> >>>> : >>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many > people >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes > any >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and > you're >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; > I >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up > on >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by > individuals. >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly > different >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 > will >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower > your >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience > severe >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type >>>> 1's. >>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They >>>>> did >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The >>> sugars >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out > I >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask > questions. >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that > goes. >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair >>> as >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection > at >>> the time. >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I >>>>> am >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it > down. >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble >>> about >>> 30 grams per meal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I'm taking Glucovance, the lowest which is 2.5/500. Now, however, it's 5/500. Apparently there are eight levels of medication and then you go to Insulin. She also told me that your body gets used to the medication. I feel bad that we had to increase the medication but I guess I will learn to deal with it. There are also two other medications we can try if need be, but I hope we don't have to resort to that. I will just have to take things one step at a time and try really hard. Re: Doctor's appointment. > > > > > >> : > >> > >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people > >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any > >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that > >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's > >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; > >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. > >> > >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- > >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I > >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the > >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough > >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been > >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're > >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of > >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). > >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's > >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of > >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I > >> have my fire-proof suit on.) > >> > >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some > >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical > >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. > >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower > >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think > >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on > >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. > >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different > >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies > >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What > >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures > >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I > >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down > >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without > >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 > >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will > >> keep you out of trouble. > >> > >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your > >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to > >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news > >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe > >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type > >> 1's. > >> > >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. > >> > >> Mike Freeman > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi, Everyone, > >> > > >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They > >> > did > > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The > > sugars > > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair > > as > > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > > the time. > >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I > >> > am > > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble > > about > > 30 grams per meal > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 , You sound like you feel you are a failure because you have to meds for your diabetes. That is not so. Diabetes is a disease that has to be managed; it is also a disease that does it's own thing and managing it is a constant changing thing. It sounds to me that you are doing everything that is needed to manage your diabetes, but your pancreas has not settled down (not your fault) so that it can be manged consistently yet. Keep working at it as you have been and things will eventually settle down more. There is really no way of predicting when or how your pancreas will quit making insulin or if it will keep putting out some insulin so that you stay on meds o r will eventually have to go on insulin. Re: Doctor's appointment. I'm taking Glucovance, the lowest which is 2.5/500. Now, however, it's 5/500. Apparently there are eight levels of medication and then you go to Insulin. She also told me that your body gets used to the medication. I feel bad that we had to increase the medication but I guess I will learn to deal with it. There are also two other medications we can try if need be, but I hope we don't have to resort to that. I will just have to take things one step at a time and try really hard. Re: Doctor's appointment. > > > > > >> : > >> > >> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many people > >> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes any > >> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that > >> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's > >> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; > >> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. > >> > >> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- > >> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I > >> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the > >> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough > >> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been > >> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and you're > >> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of > >> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). > >> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's > >> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of > >> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; I > >> have my fire-proof suit on.) > >> > >> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some > >> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical > >> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. > >> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower > >> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think > >> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up on > >> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by individuals. > >> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly different > >> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies > >> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What > >> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures > >> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I > >> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down > >> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without > >> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 > >> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 will > >> keep you out of trouble. > >> > >> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower your > >> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to > >> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news > >> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience severe > >> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type > >> 1's. > >> > >> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. > >> > >> Mike Freeman > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi, Everyone, > >> > > >> > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They > >> > did > > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The > > sugars > > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair > > as > > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > > the time. > >> > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I > >> > am > > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble > > about > > 30 grams per meal > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Mike, I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I don't mind taking medication, I've been doing that for a long time. I don't mind carb counting, I don't mind riding my bicycle except when it's too hot. What I _do mind, is having to increase the medication because in my mind, that means that I am getting worse. I could accept taking the medication being on the lowest dose, but now I'm not on the lowest dose anymore. Maybe I'm just strange and no one can understand where I'm coming from. Re: Doctor's appointment. > >>> > >>> > >>>> : > >>>> > >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many > > people > >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes > > any > >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad that > >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's > >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to you; > >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. > >>>> > >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- > >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, I > >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the > >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te tough > >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been > >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and > > you're > >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of > >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). > >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to what's > >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of > >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. (Yes; > > I > >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) > >>>> > >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some > >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical > >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing hypoglycemia. > >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower > >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I think > >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung up > > on > >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by > > individuals. > >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly > > different > >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies > >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What > >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab measures > >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I > >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C down > >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without > >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into the 5 > >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 > > will > >>>> keep you out of trouble. > >>>> > >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower > > your > >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to > >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good news > >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience > > severe > >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are Type > >>>> 1's. > >>>> > >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. > >>>> > >>>> Mike Freeman > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, Everyone, > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They > >>>>> did > >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The > >>> sugars > >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out > > I > >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask > > questions. > >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that > > goes. > >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair > >>> as > >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection > > at > >>> the time. > >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I > >>>>> am > >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it > > down. > >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble > >>> about > >>> 30 grams per meal > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I can understand. I don't want to increase my medicine unless I can't control my diabetes with diet and exercise any more. I started out only taking one blood presser pill over twenty five years ago and now I take six pills a day just to keep it down. so if I have to increase my diabetes medicine, then ok fine. but I want to try to stay on the lower strength of medicine for as long as I can first. eating right and watching your carb in take is a meal to meal battle and you can't look at it as a diet. it is simply changing your way of looking at food for the rest of your life. diabetes is a killer and that fact can't be ignored. Re: Doctor's appointment. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> : >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >> > people >> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes >> > any >> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad > that >> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's >> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >> >>>> you; >> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- >> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, > I >> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the >> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te > tough >> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >> > you're >> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to > what's >> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. > (Yes; >> > I >> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >> >>>> >> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some >> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >> >>>> hypoglycemia. >> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I > think >> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >> >>>> up >> > on >> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >> > individuals. >> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >> > different >> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies >> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab > measures >> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C > down >> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without >> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >> >>>> the > 5 >> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 >> > will >> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >> >>>> >> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower >> > your >> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good > news >> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >> > severe >> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are > Type >> >>>> 1's. >> >>>> >> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >> >>>> >> >>>> Mike Freeman >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >> >>>>> They >> >>>>> did >> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The >> >>> sugars >> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on > it >> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found > out >> > I >> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >> > questions. >> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that >> > goes. >> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What >> >>> I >> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the > chair >> >>> as >> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result > that >> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe > infection >> > at >> >>> the time. >> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that > I >> >>>>> am >> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it >> > down. >> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of > the >> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she > thought >> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >> >>> quibble >> >>> about >> >>> 30 grams per meal >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I know exactly where you are coming from. I have already been there. As time goes by and as more and more carbs are consumed greater and greater demands are made on your pancrease to produce insulin as your body becomes more insulin resistant. I, too, felt I was getting worse as I had to increase my oral medication dose, then later to have to increase it further and even after many years having to take not just one medication in greater doses, but having to add a second medication for diabetes along with the first one. It was definitely exasperating to say the least. The next piece of information may distress you, but I will say it any way. Research reveals that most folks who are type 2 diabetics in the past usually become insulin dependent after 10-15 years of being a diabetic controlled on oral medications alone. For me my pancrease finally played out after 16 and a half years before I became insulin dependent. This may never happen to you. Then again it might. But who am I to say? Blood glucose level control is the name of the game, and treatment and medications are available to help you with this. As you gain better control, you will feel better and better, and also avoid those diabetic complications. So hang in there! Re: Doctor's appointment. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> : >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >> > people >> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " makes >> > any >> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad > that >> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping it's >> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >> >>>> you; >> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C results -- >> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With respect, > I >> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why the >> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te > tough >> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >> > you're >> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to > what's >> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. > (Yes; >> > I >> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >> >>>> >> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, some >> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >> >>>> hypoglycemia. >> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I > think >> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >> >>>> up >> > on >> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >> > individuals. >> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >> > different >> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, varies >> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab > measures >> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C > down >> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes without >> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >> >>>> the > 5 >> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 >> > will >> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >> >>>> >> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower >> > your >> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good > news >> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >> > severe >> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are > Type >> >>>> 1's. >> >>>> >> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >> >>>> >> >>>> Mike Freeman >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >> >>>>> They >> >>>>> did >> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The >> >>> sugars >> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on > it >> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found > out >> > I >> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >> > questions. >> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that >> > goes. >> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What >> >>> I >> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the > chair >> >>> as >> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result > that >> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe > infection >> > at >> >>> the time. >> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that > I >> >>>>> am >> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it >> > down. >> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of > the >> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she > thought >> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >> >>> quibble >> >>> about >> >>> 30 grams per meal >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 my q is, if you take the medicine and have tight control on your bs and do every thing right, will you any way after fifteen years or so, still have the need for insulin? Re: Doctor's appointment. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> : >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >>> > people >>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " >>> >>>> makes >>> > any >>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad >> that >>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping >>> >>>> it's >>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >>> >>>> you; >>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C >>> >>>> results -- >>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With >>> >>>> respect, >> I >>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te >> tough >>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >>> > you're >>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to >> what's >>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. >> (Yes; >>> > I >>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, >>> >>>> some >>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >>> >>>> hypoglycemia. >>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I >> think >>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >>> >>>> up >>> > on >>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >>> > individuals. >>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >>> > different >>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, >>> >>>> varies >>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab >> measures >>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C >> down >>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes >>> >>>> without >>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >>> >>>> the >> 5 >>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 >>> > will >>> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower >>> > your >>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good >> news >>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >>> > severe >>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are >> Type >>> >>>> 1's. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >>> >>>>> They >>> >>>>> did >>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. >>> >>> The >>> >>> sugars >>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work >>> >>> on >> it >>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found >> out >>> > I >>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >>> > questions. >>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that >>> > goes. >>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What >>> >>> I >>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the >> chair >>> >>> as >>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result >> that >>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe >> infection >>> > at >>> >>> the time. >>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope >>> >>>>> that >> I >>> >>>>> am >>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it >>> > down. >>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of >> the >>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she >> thought >>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >>> >>> quibble >>> >>> about >>> >>> 30 grams per meal >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 my q is, if you take the medicine and have tight control on your bs and do every thing right, will you any way after fifteen years or so, still have the need for insulin? Re: Doctor's appointment. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> : >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >>> > people >>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " >>> >>>> makes >>> > any >>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad >> that >>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping >>> >>>> it's >>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >>> >>>> you; >>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C >>> >>>> results -- >>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With >>> >>>> respect, >> I >>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te >> tough >>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >>> > you're >>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to >> what's >>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. >> (Yes; >>> > I >>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, >>> >>>> some >>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >>> >>>> hypoglycemia. >>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I >> think >>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >>> >>>> up >>> > on >>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >>> > individuals. >>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >>> > different >>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, >>> >>>> varies >>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab >> measures >>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C >> down >>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes >>> >>>> without >>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >>> >>>> the >> 5 >>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 >>> > will >>> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower >>> > your >>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good >> news >>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >>> > severe >>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are >> Type >>> >>>> 1's. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >>> >>>>> They >>> >>>>> did >>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. >>> >>> The >>> >>> sugars >>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work >>> >>> on >> it >>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found >> out >>> > I >>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >>> > questions. >>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that >>> > goes. >>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What >>> >>> I >>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the >> chair >>> >>> as >>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result >> that >>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe >> infection >>> > at >>> >>> the time. >>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope >>> >>>>> that >> I >>> >>>>> am >>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it >>> > down. >>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of >> the >>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she >> thought >>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >>> >>> quibble >>> >>> about >>> >>> 30 grams per meal >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 That is a very good question. I am sorry to say I do not know the answer. I am hoping that tight blood glucose control will keep one from becoming insulin dependent. My inclination is to believe it to be so. However I have seen any research results to verify this inclination. I have seen some research results on pre-diabetics that shows they can avoid becoming a diabetic in the first place provided they change their life style now. You could be a research subject of one to see if maintaining tight glucose control in a type 2 diabetic for the rest of your life can prevent you from becoming an insulin dependent diabetic. It is unlikely I will be around another 10-15 years with my history, but it would be good to see your experiment results reported here. We may not reach the stars, but then, what are dreams for? Re: Doctor's appointment. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> : >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >>>> > people >>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " >>>> >>>> makes >>>> > any >>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad >>> that >>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping >>>> >>>> it's >>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >>>> >>>> you; >>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C >>>> >>>> results -- >>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With >>>> >>>> respect, >>> I >>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te >>> tough >>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have >>>> >>>> been >>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >>>> > you're >>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an >>>> >>>> option!). >>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to >>> what's >>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. >>> (Yes; >>>> > I >>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, >>>> >>>> some >>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >>>> >>>> hypoglycemia. >>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I >>> think >>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >>>> >>>> up >>>> > on >>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >>>> > individuals. >>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >>>> > different >>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, >>>> >>>> varies >>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. >>>> >>>> What >>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab >>> measures >>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C >>> down >>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes >>>> >>>> without >>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >>>> >>>> the >>> 5 >>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of >>>> >>>> 5.5 >>>> > will >>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the >>>> >>>> lower >>>> > your >>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good >>> news >>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >>>> > severe >>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are >>> Type >>>> >>>> 1's. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >>>> >>>>> They >>>> >>>>> did >>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. >>>> >>> The >>>> >>> sugars >>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work >>>> >>> on >>> it >>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found >>> out >>>> > I >>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >>>> > questions. >>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how >>>> >>> that >>>> > goes. >>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. >>>> >>> What >>>> >>> I >>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the >>> chair >>>> >>> as >>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result >>> that >>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe >>> infection >>>> > at >>>> >>> the time. >>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope >>>> >>>>> that >>> I >>>> >>>>> am >>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring >>>> >>> it >>>> > down. >>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member >>>> >>> of >>> the >>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she >>> thought >>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >>>> >>> quibble >>>> >>> about >>>> >>> 30 grams per meal >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 That is a very good question. I am sorry to say I do not know the answer. I am hoping that tight blood glucose control will keep one from becoming insulin dependent. My inclination is to believe it to be so. However I have seen any research results to verify this inclination. I have seen some research results on pre-diabetics that shows they can avoid becoming a diabetic in the first place provided they change their life style now. You could be a research subject of one to see if maintaining tight glucose control in a type 2 diabetic for the rest of your life can prevent you from becoming an insulin dependent diabetic. It is unlikely I will be around another 10-15 years with my history, but it would be good to see your experiment results reported here. We may not reach the stars, but then, what are dreams for? Re: Doctor's appointment. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> : >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >>>> > people >>>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " >>>> >>>> makes >>>> > any >>>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad >>> that >>>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping >>>> >>>> it's >>>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >>>> >>>> you; >>>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C >>>> >>>> results -- >>>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With >>>> >>>> respect, >>> I >>>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te >>> tough >>>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have >>>> >>>> been >>>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >>>> > you're >>>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an >>>> >>>> option!). >>>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to >>> what's >>>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. >>> (Yes; >>>> > I >>>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, >>>> >>>> some >>>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >>>> >>>> hypoglycemia. >>>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I >>> think >>>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >>>> >>>> up >>>> > on >>>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >>>> > individuals. >>>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >>>> > different >>>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, >>>> >>>> varies >>>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. >>>> >>>> What >>>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab >>> measures >>>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C >>> down >>>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes >>>> >>>> without >>>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >>>> >>>> the >>> 5 >>>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of >>>> >>>> 5.5 >>>> > will >>>> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the >>>> >>>> lower >>>> > your >>>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good >>> news >>>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >>>> > severe >>>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are >>> Type >>>> >>>> 1's. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >>>> >>>>> They >>>> >>>>> did >>>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. >>>> >>> The >>>> >>> sugars >>>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work >>>> >>> on >>> it >>>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found >>> out >>>> > I >>>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >>>> > questions. >>>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how >>>> >>> that >>>> > goes. >>>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. >>>> >>> What >>>> >>> I >>>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the >>> chair >>>> >>> as >>>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result >>> that >>>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe >>> infection >>>> > at >>>> >>> the time. >>>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope >>>> >>>>> that >>> I >>>> >>>>> am >>>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring >>>> >>> it >>>> > down. >>>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member >>>> >>> of >>> the >>>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she >>> thought >>>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >>>> >>> quibble >>>> >>> about >>>> >>> 30 grams per meal >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I did not resend this! Why in the world does a message get resent after it's been sent once? In my bulk mail I have almost 2000 messages, and I swear, I delete messages and they come back. It's weird! Doctor's appointment. > Hi, Everyone, > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at the time. > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about 30 grams per meal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 My computer went thorough a phase where it was doing that, and my husband found it had a virus. I had to delete everything fro my deleted box and that helped to not have the messages come back. He " cured " the computer of that particular virus however, so it stopped doing that. Re: Doctor's appointment. I did not resend this! Why in the world does a message get resent after it's been sent once? In my bulk mail I have almost 2000 messages, and I swear, I delete messages and they come back. It's weird! Doctor's appointment. > Hi, Everyone, > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at the time. > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about 30 grams per meal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 My computer went thorough a phase where it was doing that, and my husband found it had a virus. I had to delete everything fro my deleted box and that helped to not have the messages come back. He " cured " the computer of that particular virus however, so it stopped doing that. Re: Doctor's appointment. I did not resend this! Why in the world does a message get resent after it's been sent once? In my bulk mail I have almost 2000 messages, and I swear, I delete messages and they come back. It's weird! Doctor's appointment. > Hi, Everyone, > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at the time. > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about 30 grams per meal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty it when I used msn but OE must be different. Doctor's appointment. > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. > > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about > 30 grams per meal > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty it when I used msn but OE must be different. Doctor's appointment. > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. > > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about > 30 grams per meal > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Hmmm. You got me. A computer expert I am NOT! (smile) Re: Doctor's appointment. I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty it when I used msn but OE must be different. Doctor's appointment. > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. > > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about > 30 grams per meal > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Hmmm. You got me. A computer expert I am NOT! (smile) Re: Doctor's appointment. I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty it when I used msn but OE must be different. Doctor's appointment. > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. > > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about > 30 grams per meal > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Hmmm. You got me. A computer expert I am NOT! (smile) Re: Doctor's appointment. I ran Norton's last night and there was no virus reported. Someone told me that Yahoo has a habit of doing that on occasion. I can't empty my deleted message folder. When I tried to empty it there was a message saying that it was emptied periodically by either MSN or Outlook Express, I don't know which. It said that emptying the folder was not available. I could empty it when I used msn but OE must be different. Doctor's appointment. > > > > Hi, Everyone, > > > > Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. They did > another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. The sugars > are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work on it > before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found out I > can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask questions. > They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that goes. > I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What I > didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the chair as > I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result that > high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe infection at > the time. > > So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope that I am > not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it down. > Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of the > group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she thought > that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't quibble about > 30 grams per meal > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Right on! Mike Re: Doctor's appointment. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> : >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >>> > people >>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " >>> >>>> makes >>> > any >>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad >> that >>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping >>> >>>> it's >>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >>> >>>> you; >>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C >>> >>>> results -- >>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With >>> >>>> respect, >> I >>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te >> tough >>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >>> > you're >>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to >> what's >>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. >> (Yes; >>> > I >>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, >>> >>>> some >>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >>> >>>> hypoglycemia. >>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I >> think >>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >>> >>>> up >>> > on >>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >>> > individuals. >>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >>> > different >>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, >>> >>>> varies >>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab >> measures >>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C >> down >>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes >>> >>>> without >>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >>> >>>> the >> 5 >>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 >>> > will >>> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower >>> > your >>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good >> news >>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >>> > severe >>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are >> Type >>> >>>> 1's. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >>> >>>>> They >>> >>>>> did >>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. >>> >>> The >>> >>> sugars >>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work >>> >>> on >> it >>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found >> out >>> > I >>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >>> > questions. >>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that >>> > goes. >>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What >>> >>> I >>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the >> chair >>> >>> as >>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result >> that >>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe >> infection >>> > at >>> >>> the time. >>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope >>> >>>>> that >> I >>> >>>>> am >>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it >>> > down. >>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of >> the >>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she >> thought >>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >>> >>> quibble >>> >>> about >>> >>> 30 grams per meal >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Right on! Mike Re: Doctor's appointment. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> : >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm glad that you went to the doctor (you'd be surprised how many >>> > people >>> >>>> postpone those doctor's visits -- as if not hearing " bad news " >>> >>>> makes >>> > any >>> >>>> difference insofar as their diabetes is concerned!) and I am glad >> that >>> >>>> you've signed up to recieve your chart via email. Here's hoping >>> >>>> it's >>> >>>> accessible but even if it isn't, have someone read the screen to >>> >>>> you; >>> >>>> it's important. But I don't need to tell you this. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm also glad you were sitting down when you got your A1C >>> >>>> results -- >>> >>>> less far to fall than had you been standing up! (grin) With >>> >>>> respect, >> I >>> >>>> venture the opinion that with an A1C of 13, I can understand why >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> good medicine-man increased your medication dose. While it may te >> tough >>> >>>> on your ego to admit that dietary changes alone might not have been >>> >>>> enough, high bG readings are nothing to be played around with and >>> > you're >>> >>>> better off getting those readings down by whatever means short of >>> >>>> endangering your health (e.g., starving yourself isn't an option!). >>> >>>> We're dealing with your health here, not some abstraction as to >> what's >>> >>>> " natural " , " organic " or any of the other silly labels purveyors of >>> >>>> alternative medicines/lifestyles foist upon the gullible public. >> (Yes; >>> > I >>> >>>> have my fire-proof suit on.) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The optimum A1C goal is an individual thing. Believe it or not, >>> >>>> some >>> >>>> people can't get down to the American Association of Clinical >>> >>>> Endocronoligists' guideline of 6.5 without experiencing >>> >>>> hypoglycemia. >>> >>>> Others (like myself) can handle 6.1, 5.7 (my current A1C) or lower >>> >>>> without difficulty. I may be a minority of one on this list but I >> think >>> >>>> sometimes that some of our more fanatic list participants get hung >>> >>>> up >>> > on >>> >>>> reaching an A1C of 5.0 and forget that what works varies by >>> > individuals. >>> >>>> Compounding this is the fact that different labs have slightly >>> > different >>> >>>> standards and what is a " normal " , that is, a nondiabetic A1C, >>> >>>> varies >>> >>>> somewhat according to which laboratory standard is being used. What >>> >>>> ultimately matters is the corelation between the A1C your lab >> measures >>> >>>> and the average blood glucose readings you calculate over time (I >>> >>>> average by the week). In general, I think that if you get your A1C >> down >>> >>>> to the AACE guideline, you'll be well on the way to diabetes >>> >>>> without >>> >>>> complications. Get the A1C down to 6 and you're even better; into >>> >>>> the >> 5 >>> >>>> range is even better. My own personal opinion is that an A1C of 5.5 >>> > will >>> >>>> keep you out of trouble. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But list participants are absolutely right in saying that the lower >>> > your >>> >>>> A1C, the better in terms of complications avoidance. You'll have to >>> >>>> figure out by experimentation what your system can stand. The good >> news >>> >>>> is that, as a Type 2 diabetic, you're not as likely to experience >>> > severe >>> >>>> hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes as are those of us who are >> Type >>> >>>> 1's. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Keep working at it. We're all pulling for you. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Mike Freeman >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi, Everyone, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Well, the appointment went just about like I thought it would. >>> >>>>> They >>> >>>>> did >>> >>> another a1c and they upped the medication from 2.5/500 to 5/500. >>> >>> The >>> >>> sugars >>> >>> are coming down and I wish she would have given me a while to work >>> >>> on >> it >>> >>> before raising the dosage. I also signed up for My Chart. I found >> out >>> > I >>> >>> can get test results more quickly and make appointments and ask >>> > questions. >>> >>> They send an e-mail with log in information. So, we'll see how that >>> > goes. >>> >>> I hope that the test results are much improved from last time. What >>> >>> I >>> >>> didn't tell you was that the a1c was thirteen. Don't fall off the >> chair >>> >>> as >>> >>> I nearly did when I was read the result. I have never had a result >> that >>> >>> high although I did have one of eleven because I had a severe >> infection >>> > at >>> >>> the time. >>> >>>>> So, we'll see how fast the results come back to me. I do hope >>> >>>>> that >> I >>> >>>>> am >>> >>> not disappointed because I have been working really hard to bring it >>> > down. >>> >>> Point of interest: I mentioned to the doctor that I was a member of >> the >>> >>> group and the feeling that the a1c should be around five and she >> thought >>> >>> that was too low. She did approve of carb counting and didn't >>> >>> quibble >>> >>> about >>> >>> 30 grams per meal >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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